Gambling or gaming sites

[maydna]

I have not tried playing in these sites so I can't share any experience about them, but I probably have heard or stumbled upon one or two of them, in an ad most probably. The impression is that they are basically a gaming site. But the gray area here is that you will be buying whatever coins their games use and do some staking or betting and win or loss them. But they are also convertible to real money. That's the gambling side of it. They're like offering chips or tokens. I wonder if these sites are licensed as gambling operators, but they are indeed offering gambling.

If we look at the site where slot games look familiar to us, that site is a casino site. And even though we can use free money or play using demo mode, we can be even more curious about how it will turn out if we use real money.

I also think that maybe in the future, the site will offer chips or tokens that can be used for gambling in addition to using fiat or main coins. But be careful if you want to try it and always stick to only using the money you can afford so, you won't regret it if something bad happens later.

[karmamiu]

I have not tried playing in these sites so I can't share any experience about them, but I probably have heard or stumbled upon one or two of them, in an ad most probably. The impression is that they are basically a gaming site. But the gray area here is that you will be buying whatever coins their games use and do some staking or betting and win or loss them. But they are also convertible to real money. That's the gambling side of it. They're like offering chips or tokens. I wonder if these sites are licensed as gambling operators, but they are indeed offering gambling.

If we look at the site where slot games look familiar to us, that site is a casino site. And even though we can use free money or play using demo mode, we can be even more curious about how it will turn out if we use real money.

I also think that maybe in the future, the site will offer chips or tokens that can be used for gambling in addition to using fiat or main coins. But be careful if you want to try it and always stick to only using the money you can afford so, you won't regret it if something bad happens later.

Who knows maybe they'll do it. Actually, this kind of platforms although not that popular in some countries, there have been similar sites/platforms or versions of it, and some are even offering services like you can play with a minimum amount of deposit, or in short anyone can afford since it is very cheap to start playing. I have similar sites that my friends recommended me and I'm pretty sure it's not familiar with you guys, same mechanics applied as to what OP wanted to convey, this is also why I said it has pretty similar features although the difference is only how much base deposit needed.

[fullhdpixel]

I think the games which involve real money and where we can win the real money are gambling games. There are many games like PUBG type which allow you to play freely and you can buy weapons for money in the games. Those games won't win you any money and are non-gambling games.
The games which OP is referring to come in the category of gambling. There is no doubt about it.

Anyways its seems that these games are new for all of us as we only play and know sites which are popular on this forum.

There's also gambling games which are just free to play like the ones listed in the apple app store and play store. Gambling sites that we see in the forum as the ones who involved real money but you can also play them freely by switching to demo mode if you don't have a money to deposit. Games like PUBG is not what you call a gambling game but they are video games.

It's free to play but the game has in app purchase. The only way for you to make money in these type of games is when you join the pro scene. There's also apps which let you rent your account or you can just sell your whole account if you don't use it anymore. There are Metaverse/NFT games too which lets allows you to earn real money. Lastly, we can be able to bet on video games in E-Sports betting sites.

[maydna]

I have not tried playing in these sites so I can't share any experience about them, but I probably have heard or stumbled upon one or two of them, in an ad most probably. The impression is that they are basically a gaming site. But the gray area here is that you will be buying whatever coins their games use and do some staking or betting and win or loss them. But they are also convertible to real money. That's the gambling side of it. They're like offering chips or tokens. I wonder if these sites are licensed as gambling operators, but they are indeed offering gambling.

If we look at the site where slot games look familiar to us, that site is a casino site. And even though we can use free money or play using demo mode, we can be even more curious about how it will turn out if we use real money.

I also think that maybe in the future, the site will offer chips or tokens that can be used for gambling in addition to using fiat or main coins. But be careful if you want to try it and always stick to only using the money you can afford so, you won't regret it if something bad happens later.

Who knows maybe they'll do it. Actually, this kind of platforms although not that popular in some countries, there have been similar sites/platforms or versions of it, and some are even offering services like you can play with a minimum amount of deposit, or in short anyone can afford since it is very cheap to start playing. I have similar sites that my friends recommended me and I'm pretty sure it's not familiar with you guys, same mechanics applied as to what OP wanted to convey, this is also why I said it has pretty similar features although the difference is only how much base deposit needed.

Yes, everything might happen later. The casino may need more promotion so more people will recognize it and use it as a gambling place. I had never seen the casino before, and it was quite different from the casinos I was familiar with. But indeed, even though there may be casinos that are similar to these casinos, there will be differences such as regulations, minimum deposit and withdrawal amounts, the currency used, and others.

But if we don't know the casino well, we shouldn't take the risk by still playing in that casino. But we can still try it if we are really curious about the contents of the casino.

[jrrsparkles]

Recently one of my friends told me about some gambing / gaming sites  or apps like Orion Stars, Milky Way, Fire Kirin, Gamevault, Riversweeps,   Ultra panda and few others. 
He told that these are very popular games but i told that i am not aware of these sites. I first thought that they could be gaming sites but later i find out they have gambling games and are in fact casino.

A few of the sites / App links are http://web.pandamaster.vip/game/pandamaster/ , http://web.orionstars.vip/play/orionstars/

Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

Never heard of these sites and does they accept cryptocurrencies in any form of payment or deposit? If not then this thread should be moved to off topic.

Generally casinos operating under gaming licence to bypass the gambling restrictions on certain regions and let's take fantasy sports which is purely gambling but they call it as skill game and made governments to allow even when the gambling is banned or highly restricted in a country so this trick is known for bypassing restrictions.

[kamvreto]

Recently one of my friends told me about some gambing / gaming sites  or apps like Orion Stars, Milky Way, Fire Kirin, Gamevault, Riversweeps,   Ultra panda and few others. 
He told that these are very popular games but i told that i am not aware of these sites. I first thought that they could be gaming sites but later i find out they have gambling games and are in fact casino.

A few of the sites / App links are http://web.pandamaster.vip/game/pandamaster/ , http://web.orionstars.vip/play/orionstars/

Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

Never heard of these sites and does they accept cryptocurrencies in any form of payment or deposit? If not then this thread should be moved to off topic.

Generally casinos operating under gaming licence to bypass the gambling restrictions on certain regions and let's take fantasy sports which is purely gambling but they call it as skill game and made governments to allow even when the gambling is banned or highly restricted in a country so this trick is known for bypassing restrictions.

So hide behind the game license, so that the game becomes disguised gambling. but some of these disguised gambling games usually use their own coins to be able to play them and players have to buy coins from several partners at a fairly cheap price. But somehow the policy on gambling is camouflaged with a game license. because some countries are so strict about gambling regulations.

[noormcs5]

Recently one of my friends told me about some gambing / gaming sites  or apps like Orion Stars, Milky Way, Fire Kirin, Gamevault, Riversweeps,   Ultra panda and few others.  
He told that these are very popular games but i told that i am not aware of these sites. I first thought that they could be gaming sites but later i find out they have gambling games and are in fact casino.

A few of the sites / App links are http://web.pandamaster.vip/game/pandamaster/ , http://web.orionstars.vip/play/orionstars/

Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

Never heard of these sites and does they accept cryptocurrencies in any form of payment or deposit? If not then this thread should be moved to off topic.

Generally casinos operating under gaming licence to bypass the gambling restrictions on certain regions and let's take fantasy sports which is purely gambling but they call it as skill game and made governments to allow even when the gambling is banned or highly restricted in a country so this trick is known for bypassing restrictions.

I guess that these are crypto based casino's because they accepts coins to play at their site. But the problem with them is that you cannot buy anything money directly from the site. You need to contact the third party dealers who may give your coins / credit to play. Similarly when you won any games, you can redeem your coins are money but that again has to be done by the thrid party agents.

I wonder why they want third party agents to be in this game and why not people can directly deposit and withdraw money in the site ?

[LUCKMCFLY]

Never heard of them.

Much better to direct your cousins to the casinos that you know than of those that you're not familiar with. They could be good as they are but then, I've seen those stories that ended up with a bad result for those casinos that are not common with the majority.

You know better than them because this could just be a shill to them and you'll never know the real intention of those that have directed them through these casinos.

I agree, why bother to deposit in an unfamiliar website when we have a lot of trusted site to play with, or maybe the OP just want to try a new one and maybe this site offers different promo and features that's why he is asking about it. But my main advice will be, just choose those who are familiar with so that you will not get worried that the site will run together with your assets

If you’re into gaming then you can try this, and experience on your own if there’s a way to make money here. Probably OP just wanna make sure that the site is legit and asking for some review which I think is a good way before trying any project. Anyway, I haven’t try this one because I prefer a pure gambling games than to this one, don’t have much time for a game right now.

I think it is so, as far as I am Concerned, reviewers are people who are sometimes quite impartial, but other times not Because they are paid and this means that things can turn to the fore Regardless of how the casino is, always Everything about the casino must be taken into consideration, besides there is nothing better than the reputation that is built within the forum and it is for good points by the members of DT1, as has always been seen here in the forum, that guarantees that you will play Sure, they don't have bad times, they avoid a scam.

[Josefjix]

I guess that these are crypto based casino's because they accepts coins to play at their site. But the problem with them is that you cannot buy anything money directly from the site. You need to contact the third party dealers who may give your coins / credit to play. Similarly when you won any games, you can redeem your coins are money but that again has to be done by the thrid party agents.

I wonder why they want third party agents to be in this game and why not people can directly deposit and withdraw money in the site ?

Gaming and gaming sites have the same behaviors; it is one to wager with high chances, which makes earnings easier. I preferred doing everything my abilities, with backup history transactions with the sites, without the need for a third party, which is exactly what squandering every minute of my day, no one would like to go through these stressful stages all in the name of gambling. I have my coins with me, and selling to a third party will reduce the value slightly; I prefer selling to an exchange before they have fixed amounts. I'm sure the casino has good grounds for enforcing the additional regulations on operations involving a third party.

[Weawant]

Has anyone known and played at these sites? Do let me how was their experience and what sort of games are there ?
Are they pure gambling sites or a mixture of gambling and gaming sites ? Although you need coins to play at these sites and you can redeem the winning coins into fiat money.

I haven't used those sites you listed but I know of gaming sites that you can also use them for gambling. They're usually fun to use and it isn't any different from gambling. You get the same feeling when you use casinos to gamble, the games are usually limited that's one disadvantage.

They're a mixture of both gaming and gambling, you can use the sites just to play games if you love playing game and you can also decide to use the sites for gambling. They serve all purpose but if you're the type that enjoy gambling with majority of options then those sites aren't for you.

The coins aren't cryptocurency, they have their inbuilt system that offers coins that you can convert to fiats, when you hear coins on a gaming platform or gambling website, it doesn't necessary mean it's cryptocurency although we have those using cryptocurency as well.

[ethereumhunter]

I guess that these are crypto based casino's because they accepts coins to play at their site. But the problem with them is that you cannot buy anything money directly from the site. You need to contact the third party dealers who may give your coins / credit to play. Similarly when you won any games, you can redeem your coins are money but that again has to be done by the thrid party agents.

I wonder why they want third party agents to be in this game and why not people can directly deposit and withdraw money in the site ?

Gaming and gaming sites have the same behaviors; it is one to wager with high chances, which makes earnings easier. I preferred doing everything my abilities, with backup history transactions with the sites, without the need for a third party, which is exactly what squandering every minute of my day, no one would like to go through these stressful stages all in the name of gambling. I have my coins with me, and selling to a third party will reduce the value slightly; I prefer selling to an exchange before they have fixed amounts. I'm sure the casino has good grounds for enforcing the additional regulations on operations involving a third party.

But it seems that the presence of a third party might add to the casino's profits. Maybe there is a price difference that the casino will apply, but there must be a separate reason from the casino why they apply it. But coins are different from crypto, so we don't need to use them for gambling because there are still many other casinos, especially if we already have a casino where we often gamble. Besides that, we also don't know any third parties in the casino, so you should be careful if you want to use them for gambling.

[Jawhead999]

It's actually a gambling but they just want to make it as gaming sites, gacha is legal even though the country ban gambling.

I don't like those kind gaming sites because there's no provably fair system and the reputation mostly not really high, so you have a chance playing rigged games.

The gaming coins you bought is expensive too because you need to pay the fee when you buy it and they will charge you fee if you want to convert it to your local fiat.

[komisariatku]

Recently one of my friends told me about some gambing / gaming sites  or apps like Orion Stars, Milky Way, Fire Kirin, Gamevault, Riversweeps,   Ultra panda and few others. 

This is the first time I know such a game. Honestly I'm not interested playing on the site. I think it's too risk to play on unpopular sites. There are many gambling sites here, and they have a good reputation. I can't bet on a site that most people are not familiar with them

Maybe it's like a semi-gambling game, you can exchange coins for fiat money. I'm not interested in that model game. The chances of winning are few and such games don't have jackpots. I prefer to play on gambling sites, they have a lot of offers, one of which I like is the weekly bonus and cashback

[tusandii]

But it seems that the presence of a third party might add to the casino's profits. Maybe there is a price difference that the casino will apply, but there must be a separate reason from the casino why they apply it. But coins are different from crypto, so we don't need to use them for gambling because there are still many other casinos, especially if we already have a casino where we often gamble. Besides that, we also don't know any third parties in the casino, so you should be careful if you want to use them for gambling.

If a casino provides as many games as they offer, of course they will need more teams to be able to present each game and this will cost more because that's why casinos use 3rd parties.
After all, by using parties 3rd services, casinos can get benefits without having to be burdened with higher costs, although there are indeed some genuine games from the casino itself.
We must always prioritize caution and of course at a trusted and reputable casino, must use 3rd party services that are more fair and reliable for every gambler.
It's just that always remember that it's not easy to win in every game that exists.

[Lida93]

I can't say if it actually these particular games on the site op mentioned but at countless times I have noticed similar games advertised as ads on browsing sites I have visited and I am one person that's too careful about all these unfamiliar, unconventional game sites without reputation and popularity as it's better not to regret trying.
Why would I wanna play a game through some sites when I can easily and safely play such game's with a renowned online casino? After all both demands money to be able to play.

[borovichok]

It's actually a gambling but they just want to make it as gaming sites, gacha is legal even though the country ban gambling.

I don't like those kind gaming sites because there's no provably fair system and the reputation mostly not really high, so you have a chance playing rigged games.

The gaming coins you bought is expensive too because you need to pay the fee when you buy it and they will charge you fee if you want to convert it to your local fiat.

We all have our decisions and we make them according to the appropriate options good for us. Although most games are regarded rigged and fixed, gaming sites will only result in a high percentage of loss. My major point in all of this is to deal with odds that are favorable to our outcome, to be able to place wagers with simplicity, and to generate simple earnings when we win the prize in the lottery. Although the system regulations are disproportionate, what are we to do if we do not follow the terms and circumstances that have been triggered? Everything that involves a third party generates significant fees.

[jostorres]

I haven't used those sites you listed but I know of gaming sites that you can also use them for gambling. They're usually fun to use and it isn't any different from gambling. You get the same feeling when you use casinos to gamble, the games are usually limited that's one disadvantage.

They're a mixture of both gaming and gambling, you can use the sites just to play games if you love playing game and you can also decide to use the sites for gambling. They serve all purpose but if you're the type that enjoy gambling with majority of options then those sites aren't for you.

The coins aren't cryptocurency, they have their inbuilt system that offers coins that you can convert to fiats, when you hear coins on a gaming platform or gambling website, it doesn't necessary mean it's cryptocurency although we have those using cryptocurency as well.

I didn't actually get your point, what do you mean by gaming sites that can also be used for gambling? We would obviously like to see an example, because I'm not understanding the context here, if there are games that we can play for free with coins provided by the website then it cannot be gambling, and if we need to buy coins and then play games with them and have the chance to win more coins from that, that is simply gambling.

I think what you are referring to is pretty much similar to what OP is talking about, it's just that the ones OP is talking about are in the application form and yours are websites, in those applications, there are different games that you can play with coins that you can purchase and win more coins that you can redeem for cash.

[ethereumhunter]

But it seems that the presence of a third party might add to the casino's profits. Maybe there is a price difference that the casino will apply, but there must be a separate reason from the casino why they apply it. But coins are different from crypto, so we don't need to use them for gambling because there are still many other casinos, especially if we already have a casino where we often gamble. Besides that, we also don't know any third parties in the casino, so you should be careful if you want to use them for gambling.

If a casino provides as many games as they offer, of course they will need more teams to be able to present each game and this will cost more because that's why casinos use 3rd parties.
After all, by using parties 3rd services, casinos can get benefits without having to be burdened with higher costs, although there are indeed some genuine games from the casino itself.
We must always prioritize caution and of course at a trusted and reputable casino, must use 3rd party services that are more fair and reliable for every gambler.
It's just that always remember that it's not easy to win in every game that exists.

Trusted casinos prioritize satisfying services to their users and use 3rd parties to help provide that satisfaction. Casinos that can provide that will get bigger because the users will see that the casino is serious about running its business. But even so, scam casinos will also use 3rd party services so we have to be careful choosing the casino. 3rd party services have helped casinos develop their business; even casinos use gambling games from 3rd parties at certain events to attract more users. With genuine games in the casino and 3rd party services, it will work well and make the casino a big casino.

[UmerIdrees]

So what is the conclusion ? Are these the gaming site or the gambling site?

You can find some more information on their main page.  https://orionstarsonline.com/
Maybe then you will be able to understand more about it 

Orion Stars puts the latest online sweepstakes slots & fish games in the palm of your hand with our free sweepstakes & fish gaming app. Our goal is to allow gamers like you to play reels, fish hunter games, sweeps, keno reels, and other bonus spin games whenever you like. Now, you can play our online sweepstakes slots and online sweepstakes fish games anytime, anywhere, and any place.

[virasog]

So what is the conclusion ? Are these the gaming site or the gambling site?

You can find some more information on their main page.  https://orionstarsonline.com/
Maybe then you will be able to understand more about it  

Orion Stars puts the latest online sweepstakes slots & fish games in the palm of your hand with our free sweepstakes & fish gaming app. Our goal is to allow gamers like you to play reels, fish hunter games, sweeps, keno reels, and other bonus spin games whenever you like. Now, you can play our online sweepstakes slots and online sweepstakes fish games anytime, anywhere, and any place.

By looking at the game's names plus the site banner, it is a no brainer that these games are in fact gambling games and not necessarily the Arcade or action games etc, I checked this site and try to make an account there too but could not find how to make an account or where to get the coins to play the games  

I guess, they have distributors who will give you the game login and the coins, and you cannot deposit directly into the sites. Also, when you need to spend money to play the game, the game depends upon luck, then it is gambling. That is how i see this.