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May 05, 2023, 04:59:07 PM
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I saw this as a memes on a social media platform which created much laughter amongst many person's with funny comments that followed. But let's view it the other round in real sense.


Funny as it look, it's a reality for many crypto investors out there. A scenario were some had to invest when there was great value for the coin only to sell it when the price dropped after holding for long. Which means they never had an understanding of the basics of investing or trading before investing.

This this humor as it looks has turned many billionaires to millionaires down to thousand-naires as the case may be. Often times than not it could be that these people perhaps invested into the wrong coin and timing too.


Before you get to invest in crypto or bitcoin endeavor to know about the basics so you don't end up taking wrong investment decisions about it, so you don't send the wrong message or signal to people out there that are yet to know and partake in the industry.  Just like one of the photos I put up a alleging how "crypto is a biggest lie", and bitcoin isn't excluded in this statement either.
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May 06, 2023, 01:19:50 AM
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The problem does not lie here with the asset you invest in, but with emotional investment based on the experiences of friends or from the Internet and dreams of quick profit. I remember at the beginning of the 2000s there was a fever in investing in stocks, everyone wanted to buy stocks and the bubble burst, then real estate and now cryptocurrencies.

These people will get out of the market and cryptocurrencies will continue to grow, just as it happened with stocks and real estate and this will happen again with all investment assets.


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May 06, 2023, 02:22:01 AM
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Cryptocurrency market can make you richer or poorer. Not all market participants will have profit in this market and become richer with it. If all people can get richer with this market, who will get poorer, who will spend money to help you enrich your capital.

Where is the capital flow come from to enrich your own capital?

Capital in one market must flow internally in a cycle from the rich to the poor, to the poor to the rich but mostly from the poor to the rich. The rich get richer but the poor get poorer.

New capital flow only comes in a new bull run when more new people join this market and bring their capital in.

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May 06, 2023, 02:46:05 AM
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The problem does not lie here with the asset you invest in, but with emotional investment based on the experiences of friends or from the Internet and dreams of quick profit. I remember at the beginning of the 2000s there was a fever in investing in stocks, everyone wanted to buy stocks and the bubble burst, then real estate and now cryptocurrencies.

You get the idea, but with RE you can't do short-term trading.

People don't understand that it's a question of numbers where as an individual trader you have a close to 100% chance of losing your capital. Roughly 90% of traders lose money and the retail trader who starts out always thinks that it will be 10%, but is not aware that this 10% decreases as trading becomes more short term, as you have less capital and for example leverage, or as the asset becomes more volatile (e.g. cryptocurrencies). That is, someone who starts with little capital, and makes short-term trading with cryptocurrencies leveraged has a probability close to 100% of losing everything.

When you start because you have seen a Youtube video or bought a course, you are not aware that the person selling you the course probably earns more from the courses than from the trading itself, and that when you trade you are competing against big money like Hedge Funds that can move the market at will and use high frequency trading algorithms.

But trading is still promoted because it makes a lot of money, both for those who sell courses and for the houses, which charge fees. The more trades, the more fees.

The system of buying bitcoin and forgetting about it for another 8 years or doing DCA does not make as much money and that is why it is not promoted as much.

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May 06, 2023, 05:04:50 AM
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The problem does not lie here with the asset you invest in, but with emotional investment based on the experiences of friends or from the Internet and dreams of quick profit. I remember at the beginning of the 2000s there was a fever in investing in stocks, everyone wanted to buy stocks and the bubble burst, then real estate and now cryptocurrencies.

These people will get out of the market and cryptocurrencies will continue to grow, just as it happened with stocks and real estate and this will happen again with all investment assets.
This, I recently watched a documentary about the real estate bubble that happened at the US and when you think about it, it was not really any different than any other bubble on history, smart investors took a position early and this caused an increase in that market, then the media put their focus into it and then suddenly everyone thought they could become great investors out of nowhere.

And the same happens in the market of cryptocurrencies, people could take a position now but they are not going to do it because the price is not moving much, but once the bull market market comes we are going to see all kind of people trying to invest in a hurry trying to obtain fast profits, will they succeed? I doubt it, but they are going to try.

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May 06, 2023, 07:38:22 AM
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I think this isn't exclusive in crypto, this can also happen in stocks I think although crypto will definitely have a higher degree of risk since it's much more volatile than stock market. Totally agree with the title, it will go either way unless you have the drive to go to the right path.
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May 06, 2023, 08:08:21 AM
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Before you get to invest in crypto or bitcoin endeavor to know about the basics so you don't end up taking wrong investment decisions about it, so you don't send the wrong message or signal to people out there that are yet to know and partake in the industry.
Wrong way of playing the same as preparing for bankruptcy.
Understand how to play the same as preparing for success.

There is no one who invests and trading carelessly such as being motivated by others who have received many profits from investing and trading from before it looks normal and suddenly changes with various facilities.
For example trading robot investment.
Many are victims because they are tempted by returning profits from each capital given.
Their concept in convincing members by showing facilities to invite curiosity.

Investing and trading is not an easy job if you don't know how to. If you have to choose, learn to invest in bitcoin rather than trading with other types of crypto.

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May 06, 2023, 09:58:05 AM
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All businesses have come with scam and that should make every investment opportunity unique in its form. During the very early stages in the boom of buying investment in land and estate, scam is not excluded like people are made to pay for properties that at the end of the day, they won't be able to legally acquire it after cut cases but the scenario has really reduced as more people have tasted it and got wiser. Likewise in the case of cryptocurrency investment. There are different levels of scam in this industry, from telegram bump groups, meme and shit coins, bounty hunting exit groups etc, they are all experiences that we have seen and can talk about, all you do is move on and learn when it happens to you. Be wise and careful not to invest what money that you can't forego. The risk is there but reduce your appetite.
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May 06, 2023, 10:02:04 AM
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The game had two sides,one is win by your own experience.Second one by the loss with out the less experience.Learning is essentially important one in the trading and it can’t be achieved without any good knowledge.The strategy of bitcoin is different and strategic movements of altcoin is different.If you have used same strategies for bitcoin and altcoin,surely it will affect your trading profits.My friends had brought brand new expensive car from the normal car by doing the crypto trading for some couple of years.So it’s good time for learning the trading and earn some good money from it.Don’t waste your time with the laziness.

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May 06, 2023, 11:06:02 AM
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I don't take those memes seriously but they're actually funny because it happens in real life for most people. That's what happens when you're not prepared or not knowledgeable about the investment that you're taking in. And while there will always be those negative comments and thoughts from people that we don't know, don't take them as well seriously because they don't own any coin. They're just there to trigger anyone's emotion specifically us who are crypto and bitcoin investors. Just ignore them or if you want to answer them, you better not trigger your emotions or those people that are trying to flame you will be happy as they've already won the argument by flaming you.

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What do you expect from people who seriously invest in Memes coins, or because someone like Elon Musk tweeted about it, or because of recommendations on social media, not to mention the madness of NFT and other recent events in the market, which indicate that many are investing with zero knowledge or even desire in learning. Most of the projects are paying more on marketing campaigns and high APY than on technical development, which makes them a big pump for hot money that quickly ends with losing wealth.

If you stay away from fast rich feelings and invest for a long time, you will notice a big change in your life. IM TALKING ABOUT BITCOIN HERE. Tongue

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May 06, 2023, 11:45:53 AM
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Those trolls are everywhere let them make funny memes for crypto investors. I think the person who created the meme has shown his situation after the unsuccessful investment. That's what a loser is expected to do because such people are unaware of the rules of trading and investment. They put their money into assets without gaining essential knowledge about the assets and put their money into it blindly.

The meme creator has just created the inverse of what investors can achieve with crypto investing and trading. The can fortunately move from bicycle and bus to their own cars if they do everything with proper planning. Now not every trader is going to earn as there will always be the ones who will lose. But, if someone knows the basic concepts of trading and investing then he/she will not face huge losses even if market goes against his/her predictions.

Therefore, I always recommend people to learn the basics of trading, by developing their own working strategy with technical indicators and one should learn to read the trading charts, and he/she should have a proper working plan. That will definitely make the investors prosperous as it's a fact that those who do investing with proper plans and have control over their emotions are always the winners in the game of investing and trading.

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May 06, 2023, 12:36:04 PM
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Funny as it look, it's a reality for many crypto investors out there. A scenario were some had to invest when there was great value for the coin only to sell it when the price dropped after holding for long. Which means they never had an understanding of the basics of investing or trading before investing.

Before you get to invest in crypto or bitcoin endeavor to know about the basics so you don't end up taking wrong investment decisions about it, so you don't send the wrong message or signal to people out there that are yet to know and partake in the industry.

Only invest spare money which are the rules of investing in cryptocurrency but many people ignore this rules and do as they like. They borrow money and some sell all their property to invest in cryptocurrency because they heard others did the same and were successful. If you invested only your spare money, you can't be the guys in the meme as you'll have other things to help you if the investment failed.

We also have those investing in anything they see without understanding the difference between investing on Bitcoin and investing in all those altcoins. When you buy Bitcoin, you're securing your future but with shitcoins like memecoins you're putting your capital at risk as they can all crash to zero.

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May 06, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
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The problem does not lie here with the asset you invest in, but with emotional investment based on the experiences of friends or from the Internet and dreams of quick profit. I remember at the beginning of the 2000s there was a fever in investing in stocks, everyone wanted to buy stocks and the bubble burst, then real estate and now cryptocurrencies.

These people will get out of the market and cryptocurrencies will continue to grow, just as it happened with stocks and real estate and this will happen again with all investment assets.

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Understanding this scheme is what will determine whether you will return home by bus or in a luxury car.
I can only imagine that the next stage would be regret and acceptance afterwards. Although to be fair, we gotta admit that we still have that emotions when we invest and every bear trap is like a sudden surge of panic for us. I've been there so I can really feel those people that kinda reacts to it quite quickly. It's just that they're not realizing that it's all just part of crypto or even the market as a whole.

Therefore, I always recommend people to learn the basics of trading, by developing their own working strategy with technical indicators and one should learn to read the trading charts, and he/she should have a proper working plan. That will definitely make the investors prosperous as it's a fact that those who do investing with proper plans and have control over their emotions are always the winners in the game of investing and trading.
I mean you can even tell that 100% of people in Facebook are crypto experts. /s

Sarcasm aside, these are just memes and not really what you should take literally. I ain't even fighting these trolls in Facebook or even Twitter sometimes since they do not have a single idea what they're talking about anyway. If it affects or triggers people that much, I suggest that they should unfollow every crypto pages in their social media accounts.
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May 06, 2023, 01:35:08 PM
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Reading the charts and then investing according to price changes yields the maximum benefits. I think the reason these memes have become popular is because most people consider crypto a joke and not something serious. On the other hand this meme-culture was not prevalent during the days when stocks were the main speculative market. Although Economy related newspapers did put up Dilbert and other comic strips for a rib-tickle.

Invest in those coins that you have a good historical knowledge of and know that they are not going to go bankrupt tomorrow. If you invest in the shitcoins coming up everyday then these memes predicting "crypto is a lie" comes out as reality. Same could be said for many stocks but lets not talk about that.

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This images explained it all, like what I saw is that when the opportunity is there you should utilize it at the right and not to focused much on altcoin and its profits. You know some of these people calling crypto scam are yet to understand the core values of cryptocurrency because they See's it as something worth investing on. If we could focus on the purpose of bitcoin without thinking of investment there's no way it could be labeled scammed or biggest lie.


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I saw this as a memes on a social media platform which created much laughter amongst many person's with funny comments that followed. But let's view it the other round in real sense.


Funny as it look, it's a reality for many crypto investors out there. A scenario were some had to invest when there was great value for the coin only to sell it when the price dropped after holding for long. Which means they never had an understanding of the basics of investing or trading before investing.

This this humor as it looks has turned many billionaires to millionaires down to thousand-naires as the case may be. Often times than not it could be that these people perhaps invested into the wrong coin and timing too.
Sometimes, mindset really plays a big role not only in investing into crypto, but into investing in general.
If you think that cryptocurrency will make you rich overnight, or you think that crypto will make you a millionaire in just a week then I guess there's something wrong with how you think about crypto.

Sometimes, these kind of thinking leads to some forced or irrational decisions, and they're just jumping into what's the trend. They don't know the risks of investing into crypto. That meme is just a meme, but if you have been an investor for quite some time, you will agree that there are many investors who might've sold some of their properties or the valuable things that they have just to have money to invest into crypto

It's only funny for those people who don't have any experience in investing into crypto. It's funny for those who don't know what happened to some of the investors out there who lost their money. It's funny for those people who are too ignorant to accept the truth that crypto isn't for everyone. I still believe that the mindset plays a big role when it comes to investing.

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Funny as it look, it's a reality for many crypto investors out there. A scenario were some had to invest when there was great value for the coin only to sell it when the price dropped after holding for long. Which means they never had an understanding of the basics of investing or trading before investing.

This this humor as it looks has turned many billionaires to millionaires down to thousand-naires as the case may be. Often times than not it could be that these people perhaps invested into the wrong coin and timing too.


Of course, there are such things like wrong coin and timing. But I don't really see the problem with a long-time holding. After all, even if the price drops after you purchased a coin, it is very likely that the price will recover and rise in the future (if we are talking about reliable assets).

It seems to me that as long as the loss is not realized, as long as you still remain in the asset and do not sell it at a low price for you, then you do not lose your positions. And it is unlikely that in this case you turn from a billionaire into a millionaire. The only problem is time, how much you can afford. But this factor should be taken into account one of the first and you just do not enter into a position if time is limited, and you are not sure about the direction of the market movement during this period.


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That depends on the person's mindset or belief in crypto investing. Because if it's true that you can't make a lot of money here, I hope no one tries to trade and no big companies will invest here and even well-known people in the business world and popular celebrities will not waste time investing here if they know they said that they won't get anything. Do you get what I mean? Maybe the people who fail here may be that the coins they chose were just hyped and they didn't really know that's why it happened.

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I saw this as a memes on a social media platform which created much laughter amongst many person's with funny comments that followed. But let's view it the other round in real sense.

Funny as it look, it's a reality for many crypto investors out there. A scenario were some had to invest when there was great value for the coin only to sell it when the price dropped after holding for long. Which means they never had an understanding of the basics of investing or trading before investing.

This this humor as it looks has turned many billionaires to millionaires down to thousand-naires as the case may be. Often times than not it could be that these people perhaps invested into the wrong coin and timing too.

Before you get to invest in crypto or bitcoin endeavor to know about the basics so you don't end up taking wrong investment decisions about it, so you don't send the wrong message or signal to people out there that are yet to know and partake in the industry.  Just like one of the photos I put up a alleging how "crypto is a biggest lie", and bitcoin isn't excluded in this statement either.

Those who have profited from cryptocurrency understand firsthand the challenges of holding, trading, and researching promising coins, no matter the fun they make of crypto, the positive aspects of crypto cannot be overshadowed because since Bitcoin's public launch and altcoins, it has created numerous millionaires within both short and long timeframes.

Are there any businesses in this world that are completely risk free? There is none, even the traditional businesses people have experienced complete failure despite earnest efforts and crypto is no exception, but it differs in approach, only those who have quick mindset of making quick money have failed that is why they will post anything to downgrade crypto but they will never succeed.

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