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May 05, 2023, 06:45:48 PM
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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
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May 05, 2023, 07:07:25 PM
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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
1. Whatever is the total amount that they've collected before launching calculated with its supply then that determines its price. But I could be wrong on this one so CMIIW.

2. Well, most of these investors before the launching they all one got big plan and goal and that's to sell and dump it as soon as it's listed on any exchange where it will be headed. That's why, if you're quite late on this one, you may not be able to profit.

But if you've missed the price before the launching and you're probably hyped in by its current situation, you may want to continue observing it before buying.

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May 05, 2023, 07:17:53 PM
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1. There's no one answer to this as there's different models of token pre-selling. Some do first-come, first-served, some do it with a static price, etc. I'm not sure how Binance usually does it because I never joined a presale on their platform.

2. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It will totally depend on valuations.

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May 05, 2023, 07:31:18 PM
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Whenever the market opens and there is a buy order, the price of that buy order is also the current price. I think it's not up to someone but the market determines the price.

If the price is pumping, I don't see any wrong in buying as long as you can also dump when it's necessary also. Tokens that are launched in the bull run season usually pump, it should be good.


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May 05, 2023, 08:07:38 PM
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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

Well, when tokens are first released, some projects decide to do a pre-sale in different forms, such as an ICO (initial coin offering), an IEO (initial exchange offering), or an IDO (initial dex offering), and the core project team is always responsible for the price they decide to sell at during their presales. Also, the project owners could decide to list their token at $1, but after listing at the mentioned price and the token seems to have a lot of exposure, or should I say a lot of waiting investors waiting to pump in money and buy the token, the price could move from the $1 listing price to $2.5 or more (immediately after it gets listed or after some times). But if the token has no much exposure, and perhaps there are a lot of early investors already who have bought from the ICO or even some people who earn the token for free, they may be waiting for the day the token will get listed so that they can sell, so perhaps if the token also gets listed at $1 each, and let's say there are a lot of people ready to sell compared to just a few numbers willing to buy, the price of the token will crash from $1 to $0.Whatever.

So if a token was sold for a few cents during the pre-sale, then after it got listed on Binance or some tire one exchange, the price spiked, definitely because there were more people buying the token and also because there was enough liquidity for as many investors who were selling the token.

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2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

This is a decision you need to make for yourself. I have tried it before, but I was unlucky because it did not favor me. I spent $300 to buy a token immediately after it got listed, and for some time the price was fluctuating until it kept going down. I was so impatient because I was really losing money on that investment, so I sold at a loss. I lost about $100. (Although I made a profit of about $50 but I guess I was expecting more, so I still wait until I lost it and also lost about $100+ of my capital).

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May 05, 2023, 08:10:47 PM
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There are numerous factors actually. I have observed the intensity of social marketing, airdrops, third party site publications and most importantly the % participant in the ICO sales. Now the last factor is bit tricky. In case of social marketing you can understand the analytics however, in case of ICO sales, the figures could be misleading. They are not indicative of real value. For example, owners/founders could deceive the investors by sending their own money from various addresses and thus doing an insider job to create a fake demand in the market.

Since we put the anonymous thing next inline when it comes to the crypto investments, we are doomed by it's usage during investments such as above one.

Such fake shit can hamper the coin's value at alarming rate during the listing. Moreover, it also depends on which exchanger it is going to list. Usually I have seen well known exchangers will create a hype before few days of listing some coins. Peeps actually start investing during that period as well considering its getting listed on popular exchanger.

These are most common factors but not limited to this one.
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May 05, 2023, 08:25:55 PM
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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

I'm going to answer your question the in according to the numbers:

1. Nobody determine the price of a token launch, it all depends on the demand and supply of the token but ofcourse, there is a listing price especially when there is a presale, seed sales for venture capitals and also public sale. The price in which this tokens are sold to investor before listing them vary because of allocations and also priority and when they plan to go public listen, they make sure it doesn't go below the public which is always slightly higher than other sales. When the token are been distributed, not everyone get the opportunity to buy before listing, so traders fomo to buy as soon as it get listed and that is how the price pump and the demand and supply determine how far the price will go. SUI for example was sold for whitelisted investors for $0.03 and initial exchange offering for $0.1 and it is now trading at $1.29.

2. It depends on how long you plan to hold, if you buy when a token is listed, there is usually short term pump if they are IEO conducted tokens and also in bull market, it is advisable but don't try it during bear market, most traders sell quickly as soon as they make some profit.

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May 05, 2023, 08:49:38 PM
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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
The price will always depend on the demand and supply, if there’s a good demand during the launching or listing, then you can expect a good price but at you can see, the usual trend during listing is that, the price will dump because many will take profit especially those who are able to buy on pre-sale.

If you are not able to buy during pre-sale, better not to rush buying it during the listing, its ok to wait for a week for the price to stabilize, and with SUI right now, its pretty cheap compare to its ATH hence a great time to accumulate.

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May 05, 2023, 09:06:47 PM
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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.
There are various things that depend on the token price at launch. The team's dedication, influence marketing, the project's fundamental concept, potential, listing on liquidity provider exchange, and slam everything with some hype.
This is all the exact thing the team involved in the SUI token did and if the project didn't have the needed longevity trust me all the bullish will end in the next market correction. If you can take risk you can take the risk of quick buy and sell but I will advise you not to go for crypto if you're not sure about its future position in the market for quick profit instead invest in BTC.
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May 05, 2023, 09:18:58 PM
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1. There's no one answer to this as there's different models of token pre-selling. Some do first-come, first-served, some do it with a static price, etc. I'm not sure how Binance usually does it because I never joined a presale on their platform.

2. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It will totally depend on valuations.
When the team do the pre-sale themselves, their offers first come first serve percentage quantity buying and also give those early investors a lot of bonuses as early adopters, while the price of the token/coin at pre-sale changes at different stages of the token sale up until the closing of token sell period which places a token price about 30% less to it exchange listing price.

The team have the sole right to set the tokens listing price,  and the exchange have little role to perform in that since the token teams are the one providing the liquidity for the token on the exchange,  and even in the situation of price pump, the team supply the liquidity, not the exchange.



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May 06, 2023, 01:03:39 AM
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1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

The currency team estimates the listing price, which is often low. After the listing is completed, the people who got the price before listing will try to sell their currencies here. The required liquidity will determine the price of token. If there is more demand than supply, the price will increase and vice versa.

manipulation can happen here where the currency team or anyone, with amounts such as a million dollars, can pump the price of the currency and thus create a false demand that brings more people out of greed, and suddenly you lose all your money.

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
It's the worst time for you to buy because it's when the whales move in to make their greedy instincts go up and you lose a lot.

If you got that token for free or because you performed a service such as participating in the bounty, then sell half of it after listing and the second half after 3 days, otherwise do not invest.


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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.


The token price will be most likely determined by the original set price like 0.1$ per token at start of presale. And then from there an exchange can get maybe 50% of that value so that someone actualy wants to buy it.
And it will end up trading for 0.01 - 0.03 $ instead of 0.1$ which presale investors payed. This can fluctuate massively, thats why crypto is not a fast game, sometimes you need to wait months or years to turn a profit.

2.
All depends on the coin in question , sometimes it is. Its up to you to determine what you would like to do with it, turn quick profit  or hodl, perhaps use it as actual means of payment or smh like that idk...
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May 06, 2023, 02:10:08 AM
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1) it depends on the interest and FOMO of the community, well even though they are listed on the big market it is a bit of a factor too, but it only has a small impact, the big impact is those who can make this project boom is the community itself, the project boom will increase the interest of investors to buy.

2) it's also a kind of gamble, I think that instead of trying your luck it's better you have to be mentally prepared to inflame your assets and in-depth research, at least it reduces your feeling of regret when investing.

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Hi everyone,
1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
The team itself who determine the price at the token launch and after the token already launched. Market will decide what will be the suitable price for the token when it has been actilve traded.


2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

As long as the token already dumped so hard and why not? The main thing if is you shall always try to do your own research. Think about that. If you are thinking that token was undervaled and just buy it.

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May 06, 2023, 02:43:52 AM
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1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing
Many members had already answered with almost the same context of "demand and supply" but you should consider thinking about what causes a highly new token's high demand or high supply and vice versa. Because as Dr.Bitcoin_Strange has already mentioned the listing price of a token can move up or down immediately after the listing. But i would like to mention important factors that caused a token price;
  • Hype that creates high demand
  • Circulating supply which of sui is 5% and it is less supply that increases the price for the short term
  • Listing of tokens on recognized CEXs that can be easily accessible by most of the crypto maniacs.
  • Who are the investors and partners of the project
  • Use-case of the project, like, does it meet the new trend?
2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?
No, you should not do that because who knows to which extent a candle will go like the listing price of sui let's take was 1.37$ something, and then if the weight of buying is more than selling in the first candle then its price will always go up like for sui it goes up to $4 dollars and then in the same candle it came down to $1.3.  This indicates that we should not play with fire and should wait to cool it down. Because what if for the sake of profit, you bought it for around $4 dollars and that was the maximum potential it have to touch and after that, it never tries to break that potential then what will you do rather than bear the pain?

So play cool and be patient.

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Hi everyone,


1/ Who determines the price of a token at launch?
For example, the SUI token cost a few cents in pre-sale and was listed at almost $1.50 on the Binance listing

2/ In your experience, is it a good idea to buy a chip the second it is listed for a profit?

Thanks for clarifying.

The price of a token at launch is determined by a variety of factors, including market demand, token supply, and the perceived value of the project behind the token. In some cases, the price may be determined by the project team or through an auction process, but ultimately it is the market that determines the token's value

Overall, the price of a newly listed token can be highly volatile and unpredictable, and there is no guarantee that the price will continue to rise after the initial listing. for this moment many are waiting and may be tempted to buy tokens once registered in the hope of making a quick profit. Grin Grin Grin but this strategy is often risky.

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May 06, 2023, 06:59:19 AM
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From my observation, the price at launch is arbitrary set by the project team during the prelaunch time with various marketing channels like ICOs, IDOs or even IEOs and teams test the waters to see how it goes. The projects become immediately sold out if the price is deemed to be too good for the project. Some times the projects don't get sold out too and it can be from negative assessment of what they tend to bring to the market. I've participated in several launchpads and such reactions are made clear there too.

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1/ The price of a token at launch is usually determined by market demand and supply. During the pre-sale stage, the project team can set a price for the token, but once it hits the market, it will be determined by market participants buying and selling the token on exchanges. It's important to keep in mind that the price can be volatile and can fluctuate based on a variety of factors, such as news, market sentiment, and investor demand.

2/ Buying a token as soon as it is listed can be risky, as the price can be volatile and may not reflect the true value of the project. It's important to do your own research and assess the fundamentals of the project before investing. It's also important to set a target price and stick to it, as emotions can often get in the way of sound investment decisions.
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1. The developer already set the price at the beginning when it's listed on the exchange, remember SUI is a centralized token, so the price isn't only determined by demand and supply. But there's should be a reason why they use an exact price, maybe it's a combination of their promise, the money that they've collected during Pre-ICO sales etc.

2. When the coin is already listed on a centralized exchange, 99% the coin will lose it's price since the early holder dump their coins. It's really risky if you accumulate the coin when it's already worthless, better to choose other coins.

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I try to answer 2nd question. It depends on coin and where the sale is held, it's well-known that whenever binance held sale of any coin it rose to sky upon listing. Here, Sui project itself had lot of hype around it. These two combined gave sui investors lot of returns.

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