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June 10, 2023, 02:56:20 AM
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You topic title starts with an alphabet that is in small caps. First work on your grammar then you can think about writing pattern. Grin What I meant is you wrote - was it that easy to learn a reputable member posting format? Whereas it should be, "Was it that easy to learn a reputable member posting format?"

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Is there a rule that states one must start cap lat before making post?
If yes then I would love to get the link maybe for proper orientation and guidelines. For wishing to be like someone is something that is self devotional, so why do we have gods father's and role model if I may ask?
It is simple logic! If you're interacting on a platform that is based on English language. You need to use some basic etiquette. I am not asking you to be an English language genius!

There are a lot of members who can give good suggestions regarding how to improve writing or presentation, and so in that regard, it can be good to be open to suggestions, and I am not even opposed to the idea of trying to learn writing styles or presentation techniques from other members.

Surely using proper language is helpful, and also using proper punctuation is good - especially in the earlier stages of building up a forum reputation that involves other forum members getting to know you, know your posting style and perhaps knowing some of your interests, including if you might be a bitcoiner, a shitcoiner or some combination of those.. and there are some members who don't even seem to participate in bitcoin or shitcoin discussions, so in that regard, each forum member has his/her own areas of interests and presumptively participates in the threads that are of more interest to him/her.

You see my first sentence in the above paragraph is wrong because it is a compound sentence that has three parts, so likely it is good to know if you are breaking certain grammar rules and whether you want to intentionally keep your post in a way that is not proper grammar or to fix it in order that it is within proper rules.

Sometimes it might be good to write a whole forum post and then to review it several times (and maybe even to take out repetitious words or to find words (in the thesaurus) that might express your meaning in a better or more accurate way... and the more that you improve your senses that you are communicating what you would like to say, then maybe the less frequent that you will feel that you need to review your post several times prior to posting it.. and also you might wait 1-2 hours and read your post again (and fix it) to make sure that you are comfortable with what you are saying.. and maybe reviewing controversial and complex posts more frequently than the less controversial and the less complex posts.

You can also sometimes purposefully change the spelling of words or purposefully make up words, but members will get more annoyed/aggravated with you if you have not first shown a pattern in which you already know how to spell properly... so it can be risky to change spellings and sometimes it is overly confusing and might even look like you are being lazy or using bad slang.. which can be a bit annoying/aggravating for other members to read.. or maybe the language will place you within a certain demographic if you continue to repeat some kinds of expressions that might not really be appropriate outside of your demographic.. such as using "brah" as an expression... but sometimes you can purposefully use a kind of slang to make a point, too.

Regarding length, I would not necessarily recommend, and it might be better to work your way up to length if you think that length might be suitable for points that you are wanting to make.. but if you come to a post and you want to respond with two points, and then as you are writing, you realize that you might want to make a third point, but as you are thinking about the third point, you realize that you do not know exactly how the third point fits within the topic, and you consider that you don't know enough about the third point.. so you might decide that it is better to stick with your original 2 points and to leave out the 3rd point rather than to write about a point that you are tentatively not sure how it fits.. and so it may be better in certain circumstances to leave out one of the additional points because you are too unsure how it relates and/or if it relates and how to express yourself clearly on that third point if it were to relate.

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Following good posters and learning from them, then applying it in your writing, you will improve yourself more or less.

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Basically, read more, write less and write as most succinctly as possible.

Wow.. these are good links too.. especially the first one.

Personally I believe that it is better to not start topics.. but surely some members just seem to love to create topics, and then sometimes they will end up wearing out their welcome by creating so many topics that likely already exist and they could have had likely posted within an already existing topic.   

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June 10, 2023, 09:34:54 AM
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Op Posting is not a thing to learn rather something that has to come from in-depth of you and the areas you feels more comfortable with. Those people listed above are somehow good in one section and the other they can comfortably post, the thing is just choose the best area of the bitcointalk subforum to start channeling your efforts i believe you would do well over there. Everyone must not post the same or even trying to post like others rather develop your own skills of reading widely, there are some people who don't have the time to read all the lengthy post created by some users in this aspect they may not get the full content and body of the message they are trying to pass on.
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June 16, 2023, 12:31:52 AM
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Regarding length, I would not necessarily recommend, and it might be better to work your way up to length if you think that length might be suitable for points that you are wanting to make.. but if you come to a post and you want to respond with two points, and then as you are writing, you realize that you might want to make a third point, but as you are thinking about the third point, you realize that you do not know exactly how the third point fits within the topic, and you consider that you don't know enough about the third point.. so you might decide that it is better to stick with your original 2 points and to leave out the 3rd point rather than to write about a point that you are tentatively not sure how it fits.. and so it may be better in certain circumstances to leave out one of the additional points because you are too unsure how it relates and/or if it relates and how to express yourself clearly on that third point if it were to relate.

   
This particular issue has been a major issue for me sometimes but like you said I just later leave the other extra points am trying to include and just stick to the actually ones I had in mind. Even upon writing this reply I wanted to add few extra thought on this but don't know how to really express it again because on typing the extra idea it felt as if am stuck and don't really know how to express it anymore so I went edited it and said the one that was first in my head. Writing sometimes can be difficult but I feel if you can self train yourself in a specific manner which you can easily express yourself and others too understanding your comments, then you are good to go because the reader perspectives should be considered when trying to write or communicate.

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June 16, 2023, 04:55:40 AM
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Regarding length, I would not necessarily recommend, and it might be better to work your way up to length if you think that length might be suitable for points that you are wanting to make.. but if you come to a post and you want to respond with two points, and then as you are writing, you realize that you might want to make a third point, but as you are thinking about the third point, you realize that you do not know exactly how the third point fits within the topic, and you consider that you don't know enough about the third point.. so you might decide that it is better to stick with your original 2 points and to leave out the 3rd point rather than to write about a point that you are tentatively not sure how it fits.. and so it may be better in certain circumstances to leave out one of the additional points because you are too unsure how it relates and/or if it relates and how to express yourself clearly on that third point if it were to relate.
This particular issue has been a major issue for me sometimes but like you said I just later leave the other extra points am trying to include and just stick to the actually ones I had in mind. Even upon writing this reply I wanted to add few extra thought on this but don't know how to really express it again because on typing the extra idea it felt as if am stuck and don't really know how to express it anymore so I went edited it and said the one that was first in my head. Writing sometimes can be difficult but I feel if you can self train yourself in a specific manner which you can easily express yourself and others too understanding your comments, then you are good to go because the reader perspectives should be considered when trying to write or communicate.

I mostly agree with you regarding some of the difficulties that might exist when you draft, and then you try to determine if you are going to send it right away, or if you might continue to go back and edit the draft several times, and maybe even taking a day or two if you might end up positing it a bit later.

I think that the earlier that you are in your practice of writing, the better it would be to self-edit - especially if you have aims to improve your ways of expressing yourself in writing.   Another thing might deal with how you might want to consider building a reputation - so of course, there might be a lot of ways that you can build a better reputation if members start to consider you to either be a thoughtful writer or one who ends up expressing matters in ways that they find to be interesting, and usually you are not going to necessarily contribute interesting thoughts if you do not spend a bit of time on them.. and even if you are earlier to bitcoin, there might be some ways in which you feel confused about some of the bitcoin related topics, so in that sense, you might choose to limit yourself in terms of talking about some of the areas if you don't have any experience and you have not at least attempted to research a bit in order to possibly having some kind of a question that goes beyond basics and triteness.

Even though I described some aspects in which you might want be considerate of your reader, I doubt that the reason that you came to the forum is to write for others or to build an audience and blah blah blah.. so in some sense, you likely came to the forum for yourself and to learn and to potentially attempt to learn better by interacting with other members and the topic, so in some sense, I frequently will tell forum members who are complaining about what i wrote or that I wrote too much.. "fuck you guys.. I did not write my post in order to satisfy you or even to gain a popularity contest.  I wrote my post for myself to explore my ideas, and if any of you or none of you can relate, then so fucking what?  That's not my problem.  You can scan through it or you can ignore it.. You do not need to read my post and to attempt to figure if it is up to your standards or come to some kind of diagnosis of my psychological stability."

Not trying to be arrogant about the situation because there still is likely a need for some kind of balance, yet sometimes I will still respond to forum members when there might seem to be a lot of haters that might be telling me that I don't know anything, that no body likes me, that I need to go see a psychologist and/or various other similar kinds of remarks... hahahahaha

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June 16, 2023, 02:15:12 PM
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Even though I described some aspects in which you might want be considerate of your reader, I doubt that the reason that you came to the forum is to write for others or to build an audience and blah blah blah.. so in some sense, you likely came to the forum for yourself and to learn and to potentially attempt to learn better by interacting with other members and the topic, so in some sense, I frequently will tell forum members who are complaining about what i wrote or that I wrote too much.. "fuck you guys.. I did not write my post in order to satisfy you or even to gain a popularity contest.  I wrote my post for myself to explore my ideas, and if any of you or none of you can relate, then so fucking what?  That's not my problem.  You can scan through it or you can ignore it.. You do not need to read my post and to attempt to figure if it is up to your standards or come to some kind of diagnosis of my psychological stability."

Not trying to be arrogant about the situation because there still is likely a need for some kind of balance, yet sometimes I will still respond to forum members when there might seem to be a lot of haters that might be telling me that I don't know anything, that no body likes me, that I need to go see a psychologist and/or various other similar kinds of remarks... hahahahaha

I bet even in real life I would recommend you as a lecturer because your pertern of writing is what I have not seen any memeber here to compare. Saying, am not only relating it to how lengthy it could be but what really matters is how you take your time to explain in details all the needed points for someone to really understand everything perfectly.

I can't really write at length, not because I don't really know what to talk about most times, but just because I am not very good with words, I might have up to five points to make in a particular topic, but after dropping the first and second point, some times it becomes a bit confusing on how to arrange the other point in a way it doesn't get confusing to the reader. But I know since am still starting, it will take a bit time to really develop my self to know how to play around words very well and can enable me make more detail point rather than few.

You know that if someone is in the mist of either strangers or familiar people, there is every possibility that only a few people Among them will like you, but what does it matter, the fact is that what you are doing, you are doing it correctly to your satisfaction and its well comprehensive for Many. Lazy people don't read lengthy stuffs, all they do is look for whom to blame.
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Even though I described some aspects in which you might want be considerate of your reader, I doubt that the reason that you came to the forum is to write for others or to build an audience and blah blah blah.. so in some sense, you likely came to the forum for yourself and to learn and to potentially attempt to learn better by interacting with other members and the topic, so in some sense, I frequently will tell forum members who are complaining about what i wrote or that I wrote too much.. "fuck you guys.. I did not write my post in order to satisfy you or even to gain a popularity contest.  I wrote my post for myself to explore my ideas, and if any of you or none of you can relate, then so fucking what?  That's not my problem.  You can scan through it or you can ignore it.. You do not need to read my post and to attempt to figure if it is up to your standards or come to some kind of diagnosis of my psychological stability."

Not trying to be arrogant about the situation because there still is likely a need for some kind of balance, yet sometimes I will still respond to forum members when there might seem to be a lot of haters that might be telling me that I don't know anything, that no body likes me, that I need to go see a psychologist and/or various other similar kinds of remarks... hahahahaha

I bet even in real life I would recommend you as a lecturer because your pertern of writing is what I have not seen any memeber here to compare. Saying, am not only relating it to how lengthy it could be but what really matters is how you take your time to explain in details all the needed points for someone to really understand everything perfectly.

I can't really write at length, not because I don't really know what to talk about most times, but just because I am not very good with words, I might have up to five points to make in a particular topic, but after dropping the first and second point, some times it becomes a bit confusing on how to arrange the other point in a way it doesn't get confusing to the reader. But I know since am still starting, it will take a bit time to really develop my self to know how to play around words very well and can enable me make more detail point rather than few.

You know that if someone is in the mist of either strangers or familiar people, there is every possibility that only a few people Among them will like you, but what does it matter, the fact is that what you are doing, you are doing it correctly to your satisfaction and its well comprehensive for Many. Lazy people don't read lengthy stuffs, all they do is look for whom to blame.
A lecturer indeed, at first when I was still surfing the forum for discussion where I can chip in or two, I would admit that I was really scared and lazy to read some of his post looking at how lengthy it is, but the moments I started summing up the courage to read his post I found out that its actually not that long because the interesting details and points makes it looks easy as if am not reading a long write up and thats because it is one among the unique writing techniques in the community that you can easily understand.

I would definitely recommend you for a lecturer too myself. But sometimes it does amazes me at the level of which your write up can be so lenghty and still be so detailed.

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A lecturer indeed, at first when I was still surfing the forum for discussion where I can chip in or two, I would admit that I was really scared and lazy to read some of his post looking at how lengthy it is, but the moments I started summing up the courage to read his post I found out that its actually not that long because the interesting details and points makes it looks easy as if am not reading a long write up and thats because it is one among the unique writing techniques in the community that you can easily understand.

I would definitely recommend you for a lecturer too myself. But sometimes it does amazes me at the level of which your write up can be so lenghty and still be so detailed.

You know, I tried to do a bit of stalking on JJG's account, and in the beginning, he wasn't really writing this lengthy, but that doesn't mean that most of his comments were less than 200 or 300 words. I am talking partially about 2014, but damnit, the guy just got better and better because of the experience he keeps gathering and maybe also because of the podcasts he has been listening to and books he has been reading. He got better, and someone here is hating for no reason; it doesn't make sense to me. That's another reason I was telling the OP that learning to be like someone doesn't happen overnight; it comes gradually as you learn new things and gather information.
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I can't really write at length, not because I don't really know what to talk about most times, but just because I am not very good with words, I might have up to five points to make in a particular topic, but after dropping the first and second point, some times it becomes a bit confusing on how to arrange the other point in a way it doesn't get confusing to the reader. But I know since am still starting, it will take a bit time to really develop my self to know how to play around words very well and can enable me make more detail point rather than few.

Good points overall in your post, and surely there can be a bit of a dilemma regarding whether all 5 points could be made cursorily and maybe only elaborating on 2 points, and sometimes we might not know that we are even in a dilemma until after we already started writing and then realizing that we have 5 points or that the 2 points that we already wrote are not as easy to connect to the 5 points as we had initially presumed them to be prior to staring our draft.

I am not going to suggest that I know the solution beyond merely suggesting that continuing to practice and trying to improve has good chances to contribute towards your abilities, and with the passage of time, then likely you will find more and more abilities to see improvements in what you are doing as compared to what you had been doing... 

Like you also stated Dr.Bitcoin_Strange, you can attempt to imitate aspects of the writings of others, including trying to emulate writers you perceive to have better habits, but likely it is going to feel better for you, if you are able to hone in upon your own style balances.

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June 17, 2023, 05:44:25 PM
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Like you also stated Dr.Bitcoin_Strange, you can attempt to imitate aspects of the writings of others, including trying to emulate writers you perceive to have better habits, but likely it is going to feel better for you, if you are able to hone in upon your own style balances.

I agree with you, sir JayJuanGee. There is likely the possibility that someone (like my aspirations) wants to learn to write the way another user is writing, but he or she could be better or even worse. I mean,  the process of really wanting to be like another and trying to deviate permanently from your own perspective could make the person's comments get a bit weird and make it a bit difficult for readers to comprehend. So, I go by your word that it is cool if one can go with his own style.
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