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May 11, 2023, 04:57:16 AM
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The nodes get attacked and the bitcoin network cease to comply to the proper protocols it's meant to follow and malicious attack set in, which can cause serious manipulations on the system, loss of coins and many other threat in loosing trust on the blockchain which we never pray to happen.

Are you saying that there is a technical reason that the blockchain can't be pruned so that the illegal data is removed? I don't know enough about the technical details, but I thought that nodes can run a pruned blockchain that complies with the protocols, but that wouldn't include those artifacts created by the ordinal inscriptions. What part of the transaction are the ordinal inscriptions in that can't be pruned?

I think that the ordinal inscriptions are annoying and somewhat harmful to Bitcoin, but not fatal so long as running a pruned node doesn't include them. If it's not possible to prune that data without a hard fork, then we might as well fork now since hoping that such an event won't happen is a horrible strategy, because it will happen if it's an effective attack, and it will likely happen at the worst time when people are fleeing to Bitcoin in large numbers to save themselves from inflation.
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May 11, 2023, 05:02:28 AM
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If you have any illegal content in your PC/home it doesn't matter if it is on a blockchain copy or in a folder, USB stick etc... So yes in this case having a copy of blockchain that has illegal content in it would be a crime. That's another reason to cancel Ordinals/NFT's on bitcoin. Or... You can delete the blockchain copy of yours and keep using bitcoin. In the end it is not mandatory to have a copy of the blockchain to use bitcoin.

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June 20, 2023, 05:04:46 PM
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I'm new to Bitcoin, so I might not understand this situation well enough, in which case I would really appreciate some reassurance that Bitcoin is okay, because I am worried.

From what I understand, the so-called Bitcoin Ordinals are bits of data such as text or images that are inscribed on the Bitcoin blockchain itself, either whole or in parts for larger files, rather than a link to an asset like an NFT.

But what happens when a malicious actor inscribes illegal exploitative images, which then become part of the blockchain? If this happens, it would then become illegal to own a copy of the blockchain itself because of the images included in it. This would be a justifiable reason to make having a copy of the blockchain illegal in a way that most people would accept. Am I missing something? Is there a way to mine and use the blockchain without this inscribed data?

I can imagine malicious government actors doing this as a way to have an excuse for governments around the world to seize any computer with a copy of the blockchain and imprison the person who copied the blockchain because they knowingly possessed illegal exploitative images. It's one thing that Bitcoin can be used to buy such images, but it's quite another to have to possess such images in order to use Bitcoin. The way I see it, that could justifiably destroy the reputation of Bitcoin and make it very difficult for people to use and destroy its ability to become a viable currency standard for the world. It wouldn't be so much of a problem if it were just a link or a hash of an image or something to prove ownership, but when you have to actually have to download illegal files to use Bitcoin, it becomes a serious issue.

Please tell me I'm missing something with how this works and that it cannot be exploited this way. If not, what can be done about it? This whole Ordinal business has me very concerned that this will ruin the future of Bitcoin. I'm hearing a lot about high tx fees, traffic jams, a bloated chain and such, but I think all that misses the real threat to Bitcoin.

I also thought about it... I think illegal content will never be deleted. That's a real problem of any picture hub, even centralised hubs experience problems with deleting illegal contents. And when the same things happen with decentralised blockchain full of NFT, it becomes a tough problem, with no solution at all...

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