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May 15, 2023, 12:20:31 AM
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It's important to remember that the use case for Bitcoin may not necessarily be as a stable currency for everyday transactions. Its value proposition lies in its decentralization, security, and ability to operate outside of traditional financial systems. While stability is important for a currency, it's not necessarily the only factor in determining its success or adoption.

It's simply money, a way to pay goods and services.

It's value will change over time, but so does other currencies.

The thing is that over long periods of time it should continue to increase it's value given its scarcity.
It emerged as an alternate to the traditional fiat to fulfill the missing features of the monetary system.

The prime purpose is to be used as a transaction source that omits the middleman.

The best thing with cryptocurrency from that of the fiat is the volatility.
Most of the people prefer cryptocurrency for its varying market.
For now we can't see it to be stable as most users said.

I partially agree, I think that an important part of the market and liquidity comes from the traders and speculators, who are here in order to take advantage of the volatility to earn some money, thanks to them we are able to easily to go an exchange and sell at spot price in mere seconds, if Bitcoin became very stable, I am not sure whether all the trading volumen would remain the same, only those willing to use high leverage would stay, as happens in FIAT/FIAT pairs.

On the other hand, because the programmed scarcity of Bitcoin, the percentage of people who view it as a commodity rather than a currency intended for daily payments or purchases grows through time, depending whom you ask that can be good or bad for this project.

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May 15, 2023, 04:14:43 AM
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Bitcoin being volatile is beneficial for many. And that's how they invest in Bitcoin in order to make profits. If it becomes stable, then many will lose interest and use fiat currency instead. Volatility keeps people attracted to Bitcoin. Price inflation with fiat currency is a big problem. But with bitcoin, it's not possible. Because it has a limited supply.

Factoring Bitcoin is something that fluctuates, it is difficult to predict and even say that it will remain stable and become a stable currency, and this is one of the sweet parts, by having a fluctuating nature, prices often change every year, month, day. , hours, minutes and also seconds, so that everyone will benefit from every change that occurs, you should stop expecting it to be as stable as fiat currency, and to be precise people's interest will soon decrease when you see that he will continue to remain in position and point the same and continues every day.

Yes, the market gets manipulated time to time. But Bitcoin has shown us over and over that it is capable of going up again. Which is not possible with fiat currency. And as you mentioned, freedom and functionality is also a major factor to consider with bitcoin. As long as people can understand this, they will keep using Bitcoin. As an asset or as a payment method. It will still be there.

Bitcoin comes to help from several fields that attract one of them payments, transactions and other related elements, making Bitcoin one of the very useful and one of the alternatives that is very helpful in any aspect of the economy or other important assets, by having a high level of the higher priority it is no wonder that Bitcoin will be in another booming phase. by coming later the level of demand and supply is getting better and also with increasing adoption in various Individuals or countries we are sure that Bitcoin will be in an increasing phase later.

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May 15, 2023, 05:19:15 AM
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Why do you guys think Bitcoin will really become the "money of the future" and people will actually use it like one?
From what I see, I think it's possible that people in the future will still trade bitcoin or try to buy as much of it as possible to manipulate the market.

For me there is no doubt at all and that's for sure. Bitcoin allows users to pay globally without time or geographic restrictions and provides financial transparency and complete control to users. What needs to be addressed here is a matter of price stability, security and government regulations, I think.

If see from the perspective of the average person, Yes. They say Bitcoin's future as a currency is uncertain, but see these technological and financial advances could overcome its volatility and open the door to widespread acceptance and a more stable digital currency. To become a reliable currency, Bitcoin needs to be widely adopted for use in day-to-day transactions to increase and I believe that as technology advances, new solutions will emerge to deal with the volatility of Bitcoin which will eventually be accepted as cash as well as mainstream currency. Why do I dare say that because everyone here doesn't want this technology to fall asleep and run in place.

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May 15, 2023, 05:27:49 AM
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For me there is no doubt at all and that's for sure. Bitcoin allows users to pay globally without time or geographic restrictions and provides financial transparency and complete control to users.
Bitcoin was designed like that and to serve those use cases for everyone. The community contributes to maintain it since 2009 even Bitcoin has many upgrades over years.

From user side, you only control your bitcoins and your transactions if you have keys. That means you must use self custody (non-custody) wallets to have keys of your coins.
"Not your keys, not your coins."

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What needs to be addressed here is a matter of price stability, security and government regulations, I think.
More regulations will come and might include cap on daily margin of price change like in other markets. Or will governments try to force centralized exchanges to apply Circuit Break like in stocks?

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May 15, 2023, 08:01:40 AM
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If it really became stable, will there be so much hype. The hype is because it gave such high returns over the years. Such returns are not possible in any other form of investment. However, with time as investors become mature, the prices should also become stable. Other alt coins are also eating from the share of bitcoin and thus if you see from last 1-2 years, there is not very big up and downs in bitcoin prices. However, certain news or factors still cause big movements occasionally.
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May 15, 2023, 08:47:10 AM
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Why do you guys think Bitcoin will really become the "money of the future" and people will actually use it like one?
From what I see, I think it's possible that people in the future will still trade bitcoin or try to buy as much of it as possible to manipulate the market.

First of all I don't think that currency manipulation is anything new that happens to bitcoins. In the past all major currency have been focused by traders to get manipulated, some even successfully like George Soros and the British Pound. As long as a currency is free and independent there is nothing we can do against. Usually these manipulation are short term and will eventually be corrected by the market. In my opinion bitcoin is the money of the future because it can be accessed by anybody around the world as long as he has internet. There is no need for banks to share the same network, or for people to know each other. All the transactions can be done freely and independent of governments and corporations. This is the main advantage, which also makes many politicians oppose the idea of bitcoin becoming the number one currency. All governments could unite as they fear to lose the power over the monetary policies in their countries.
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May 15, 2023, 09:03:38 AM
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I was thinking about Bitcoin as a currency a lot lately and I have some doubts about how currently we see its future.

The problem is, in order for Bitcoin to become a currency everyone will use, it should be stable. I know that you might say that people will still use it because it's not about stability, it's about freedom and technology. I agree with that, but Bitcoin needs to be stable in order for people to treat it like money, and not like an asset.

Just look at what people are saying right now, experts say that people shouldn't hold USD because inflation is just 5% a year, but imagine if you have bitcoin that can go down like 5% a day because some whales sold it. It will be problematic for people to use it on a daily basis because of that.

I know that people say that when Bitcoin will be adopted, it should become stable because there is a limited amount of it, but I don't see how it's gonna happen. From what I see people treat bitcoin as an asset to invest and hold and I can't imagine that will change in the future.

Why do you guys think Bitcoin will really become the "money of the future" and people will actually use it like one?
From what I see, I think it's possible that people in the future will still trade bitcoin or try to buy as much of it as possible to manipulate the market.
How can bitcoin be stable when this cryptocurrency was launched 14 years ago and has lots of years to fully unleash its potential and become massively adopted, how can this currency become stable? There is no way, it's not an ordinary currency. I think that it's volatility should be a positive side because it is new and innovative with bright future, that means the earlier you adopt it, the more monetary benefits you'll experience. You need bitcoin to become stable years later, when all cryptocurrency will be mined and transaction speed, mining fees and all other things will be settled down. Now, use the advantage of this volatility to benefit yourself.

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May 15, 2023, 01:37:36 PM
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BTC's unpredictable price is also a positive attribute that Bitcoiners like. you can make money out of this inflation. but BTC may not become stable due to the cycles, when the cycles probably are over like all 21M coins are already mined, i think there will be a stability of price.

The volatility of BTC is what makes it attractive to investors, either for short or long-term investment. With its unpredictability, lots of investors take advantage of it in order to focus on investing their money for profit at the end.

If Bitcoin were to be considered stable, then I doubt that its popularity will continue to rise. It may be considered as "digital gold" in which its price is somehow regulated by some authority which makes its price stable in the first place.

Personally, I prefer it to be this way- lots of people speculating and forecasting its price on the market.

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May 15, 2023, 01:55:33 PM
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I was thinking about Bitcoin as a currency a lot lately and I have some doubts about how currently we see its future.

The problem is, in order for Bitcoin to become a currency everyone will use, it should be stable.
We don't need everyone to use bitcoin before it would be regarded as a currency. All we need is the multitude that would be easy to accept it for a means of payment on goods and services exchanged. You don't even need no government or regulatory body's approval. That's the beauty of the whole system as we have it now.
Bitcoin as it is and even in the future won't be readily available for all people due to certain limitations like devices and network. Those doesn't mean its not a currency. It remains a currency for those that use it for a means of exchange.
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We don't need everyone to use bitcoin before it would be regarded as a currency. All we need is the multitude that would be easy to accept it for a means of payment on goods and services exchanged. You don't even need no government or regulatory body's approval. That's the beauty of the whole system as we have it now.
Bitcoin as it is and even in the future won't be readily available for all people due to certain limitations like devices and network. Those doesn't mean its not a currency. It remains a currency for those that use it for a means of exchange.

Yeah, we need a minimum amount of people that provide a reasonable amount of goods and services payable in Bitcoin.

As you say, there's no need to have the government involved.

And also, note that this is different to say, having a debit card linked to your bitcoin, because that means that you are still using fiat for the transaction, and that requires the whole legacy stack.

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May 16, 2023, 01:32:04 PM
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Bitcoin will become stable when it will be regulated by the state,
i don't know where you get this kind of thinking, even if big countries regulate bitcoin, the price will never be stable because volatility is the nature of bitcoin, it can never be changed and we all have to accept that.

but the price and demand for it will fall heavily, because, that is its uniqueness
we'll see in the future when mass adoption has occurred, will the price fall as you say, because if the bitcoin price falls then i will buy a lot of bitcoin with all the fiat money that i have.

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May 16, 2023, 01:45:48 PM
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I really don't think far into the future, to see bitcoin's popularity more widely. But actually the things that I feel over the years, the face of bitcoin has changed a lot since its launch to the present, more people know about it but we still need to be more realistic when talking about it. This market is still on a small scale, and the prospect of people knowing about it is probably quite remote. I can mention that the internet story exists and develops to date and it has really reached the global level, so I don't know when that will be possible out bitcoin.

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May 16, 2023, 04:44:10 PM
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Bitcoin cannot be stable and I never want Bitcoin to be stable.  Bitcoin is a virtual currency if bitcoin is stable no one will buy it.We invest in Bitcoin as Bitcoin is not stable. The price of Bitcoin is determined by the market and it always fluctuates up and down every day. And thats way we invest for profit.If a stable currency is Rs 100, no one will buy at Rs 120.  If Bitcoin stabilizes, the cryptocurrency will collapse.Then no one will invest with virtual currency anymore.  Now Bitcoin can be cashed any way you want and even many shopping malls accept Bitcoin.  Besides, many banks are now accepting Bitcoin, so why should it be stable?  I thought there was no need to be stable.

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May 16, 2023, 04:56:56 PM
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I really don't think far into the future, to see bitcoin's popularity more widely.
Why, are you afraid to imagine the big things about bitcoin's potential?
Bitcoin is not a government project that is likely to be abandoned due to its centralization, so think decent things about the potential expansion of real use cases for bitcoin. I think that optimism about a better future should be built on and that will only lead you to believe that buying and holding your bitcoin in the long term will be profitable.

But actually the things that I feel over the years, the face of bitcoin has changed a lot since its launch to the present, more people know about it but we still need to be more realistic when talking about it.
The idea of ​​bitcoin is still the same, nothing has changed. It's just that the volume of transactions has increased much more than in its early years. I think it's realistic to expect bitcoin to become an adopted currency, so think otherwise. The most unrealistic thing for bitcoin is, it turns into a centralized, authority-controlled asset.

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May 17, 2023, 05:57:50 AM
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Bitcoin cannot be stable and I never want Bitcoin to be stable.  Bitcoin is a virtual currency if bitcoin is stable no one will buy it.

That's the problem. Out community sees bitcoin as an asset, not an anonymous currency that you can use/hold to get rid of the banking system.
So now it feels like everyone sees it only as an asset, but at the same time they expect people to use and adopt bitcoin for their businesses. But there is not point for people to use it like this if it will flactuate like this.
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May 17, 2023, 08:35:54 AM
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Bitcoin cannot be stable and I never want Bitcoin to be stable.  Bitcoin is a virtual currency if bitcoin is stable no one will buy it.

That's the problem. Out community sees bitcoin as an asset, not an anonymous currency that you can use/hold to get rid of the banking system.
So now it feels like everyone sees it only as an asset, but at the same time they expect people to use and adopt bitcoin for their businesses. But there is not point for people to use it like this if it will flactuate like this.
1BTC = 1BTC it will never change, the banking system will never be eliminated, and both will coexist as a means of payment that can be chosen according to user interests. Bitcoin adoption is currently uneven and there are some countries that do prohibit Bitcoin. But this will not stop the adoption of Bitcoin.

People who adopt Bitcoin as a means of payment for their business are already aware of the fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin so it will not be a debate.
But they also don't worry about fluctuations, because the payment gateway can convert Bitcoin to fiat currency directly but still Bitcoin as payment, so businesses that accept Bitcoin will not be harmed by fluctuations.

Fluctuations with high volatility are already a characteristic of Bitcoin, it can never be changed or stopped.
The crypto market continues to work and will never stop.

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May 17, 2023, 08:52:33 AM
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Bitcoin will never be as "stable" as something like the USD — heck, even gold isn't that stable. It's just that as time goes and as more and more people use bitcoin, bitcoin wouldn't be as volatile as it is today.


Just look at what people are saying right now, experts say that people shouldn't hold USD because inflation is just 5% a year, but imagine if you have bitcoin that can go down like 5% a day because some whales sold it. It will be problematic for people to use it on a daily basis because of that.

Because you don't buy your bitcoin to immediately sell it in a day. Usage-wise, probably wait for it to appreciate by a few points before actually using it. There's a reason it's almost never recommended to go 100% on bitcoin — always leave room for your fiat currency


True, I don't really understand why people still talking about BTC becoming stable. It's not even possible. Yes, it won't be as volatile as it was for the last decade, but still, there is a big room for growth. And you can't rely only on Bitcoin anyway.
I do not share the belief that bitcoin will achieve stability in the future, but I do anticipate a decrease in its volatility over time. As bitcoin matures and gains wider adoption, we can expect the extreme price fluctuations to diminish. With increased scarcity and a higher price, individuals are likely to hold onto their bitcoin more, leading to better control over dumping and subsequently reducing volatility. However, it is important to note that predicting the stability of bitcoin after reaching a certain price is highly uncertain and challenging.

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May 18, 2023, 05:54:49 AM
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Bitcoin will become stable when it will be regulated by the state,
i don't know where you get this kind of thinking, even if big countries regulate bitcoin, the price will never be stable because volatility is the nature of bitcoin, it can never be changed and we all have to accept that.
Definitely just someone making stuff up and nothing substantial about it at all. I agree that even if people ended up with regulation bitcoin, nothing will change and it will continue to be volatile. I believe that the only "stable" period will be when bitcoin is way high, and I mean like way too high.

I am guessing eventually (in 10-20 years maybe) bitcoin reach to 1+ million dollars, when/if that happens we can see a lot more stable than today, because just 3-5 percent changes would equal to 30-50k by that point, and obviously that's going to be harder than today, and all those 10%+ changes, those are hundreds of thousands of dollars, so it would be a lot more stable than today. However, until that point it is not going to happen for sure.

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There is no stable term for the price of bitcoin and until whenever bitcoin will remain fluctuating, decentralization is the reason why bitcoin cannot be as stable as USD or other fiat currencies.

I know that people say that when Bitcoin will be adopted, it should become stable because there is a limited amount of it, but I don't see how it's gonna happen. From what I see people treat bitcoin as an asset to invest and hold and I can't imagine that will change in the future.
Now that adoption has taken place everywhere and bitcoin is also unstable, its finite number makes it difficult for bitcoin to stabilize and for this reason it is also possible that bitcoin will never be stable as the process of supply and demand will play its part. Bitcoin will remain an asset to invest in and I don't see it in the future becoming a stable asset.

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May 18, 2023, 06:26:15 AM
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I don't think BTC is likely to stabilize. Because the Bitcoin market is volatile due to various currency cycles and the market of this coin always fluctuates. If its market was stable like other stablecoins then people's interest in this currency would have decreased then people used Bitcoin as a stable currency but nowadays people use this coin mostly for investment. Since people are constantly investing in Bitcoin and other markets are directly dependent on this market, it can be said that the Bitcoin market will never be stable.

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