Another betting fraud in Brazil - part 2

[rdluffy]

After the first one that @alegotardo posted HERE

Now they have discovered yet another big sports betting fraud scheme in Brazil, it's like the part 2 
The repercussion in Brazil is such that CBF has already asked the Federal Police to investigate.
So far there are 16 defendants involving players from the A and B series of the Brazilian championship.
Including the most notable so far is the Santos player Eduardo Bauermann, who has already been removed from the team and will probably be fired.

Here you can check the news in English: https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/brazil-prosecutors-charge-16-alleged-soccer-match-fixing-scheme-2023-05-10/

Some even considered paralyzing the Brazilian championship, but this has already been ruled out by CBF, which is working together with FIFA to investigate more efficiently.

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

[Oshosondy]

Ah! What is fixing matches becoming? It is even getting beyond fixing matches, like this one:

Santos defender Eduardo Bauermann is accused of receiving at least 50,000 reais ($10,000) to get a yellow card in a match against Aval last year, according to the documents.

Player are getting bribed.

I will not be betting more than EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundesliga and Lique 1 in France. I bet on Brazilian Seria A, Seria B and some other leagues and cups in Brazil. I can not trust this kind of leagues again.

[dimonstration]

This is the typical downside of players involves in gambling. Probably they are not getting enough pay or they are not properly monitored for gambling involvement. They should make the punishment brutal to make this kind of unprofessional activities subsided.

Any information on the root for this kind of issue. Is Brazil recorded this kind of incidents multiple times in the past? Because there might be some organisation that being rampant on rigging their sports.

[Crypt0Gore]

I am not surprised, because such will happen where there is less payment for the players, In my country players are been paid higher fee to lose a match that's why I am not surprised, it's better to focus on popular league matches like Seria A and La Liga.

But seriously, something like this can be going on in the background too, how will anyone know that big leagues are clean of bribing too? There is no way you will know, but the only thing that makes me believe that bigger leagues are safer is because they are well-paid.

Higher payments get rid of bad intentions and bribery in sports.

[Solosanz]

it's better to focus on popular league matches like Seria A and La Liga.

Higher payments get rid of bad intentions and bribery in sports.

Higher payments will not entirely get rid bribery or fraud in sports, it's funny you're mention La Liga here. There are many cases where the referee is more favored to Barcelona, although it were not found Barcelona bribed the referee, but the referee always make a controversial decision and it give an advantage for Barcelona.

Money is the most important thing in capitalism and human is never been satisfied even if he have a lot money, he will keep collecting until he death.

[tusandii]

This is the typical downside of players involves in gambling. Probably they are not getting enough pay or they are not properly monitored for gambling involvement. They should make the punishment brutal to make this kind of unprofessional activities subsided.

Any information on the root for this kind of issue. Is Brazil recorded this kind of incidents multiple times in the past? Because there might be some organisation that being rampant on rigging their sports.

I am not surprised by this kind of case and it seems that the same case is not only happening in Berazil but in several other countries, it's just that it might still be uncovered and the first thing to know is Brazil.
In fact, Brazil is a country with a fairly good development of the sports industry. We can even see from their past history that they have won the World Cup, until now they have succeeded in producing many great football players, so it would be a shame if there were many players linked to cases of sports betting fraud there.

It is possible that you are right in saying that they do not get enough salary or benefits so that they dare to risk their careers to participate in sports betting scams.

[aioc]

It is possible that you are right in saying that they do not get enough salary or benefits so that they dare to risk their careers to participate in sports betting scams.

I would like to add they do not have a real love for the sport, because if they do they will not let these things happen, and only a big syndicate can do this, both the syndicate and the players made money they made the public believe that they are doing their best and they deserve the trust of the public.

The commission should do everything to eradicate corruption and to regain the trust of the public again, even to the extent of putting the best players of the league in jail and banning all those responsible to game fixing.
Of all the things the general sports public confidence is very important, you lose the trust of the public and that could be the end of sports in that country.

[yazher]

Ah! What is fixing matches becoming? It is even getting beyond fixing matches, like this one:

Santos defender Eduardo Bauermann is accused of receiving at least 50,000 reais ($10,000) to get a yellow card in a match against Aval last year, according to the documents.

Player are getting bribed.
I will not be betting more than EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundesliga and Lique 1 in France. I bet on Brazilian Seria A, Seria B and some other leagues and cups in Brazil. I can not trust this kind of leagues again.

We see that these are only a few players but in reality, those players are the only people who are caught red-handed surely there are more of them there and probably we also have this kind of scenario in known sports as well and they are just being careful not to get caught because if they do, they will gonna ruin the sport and might lose the trust of the people forever. Just like this one, now that they are transparently known for doing this, they will lose their fans and spectators because there will be no thrill anymore to watch and they will also probably lose their sponsorship as well because of the obvious reasons.

[Yatsan]

Ah! What is fixing matches becoming? It is even getting beyond fixing matches, like this one:

Santos defender Eduardo Bauermann is accused of receiving at least 50,000 reais ($10,000) to get a yellow card in a match against Aval last year, according to the documents.

Player are getting bribed.
I will not be betting more than EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundesliga and Lique 1 in France. I bet on Brazilian Seria A, Seria B and some other leagues and cups in Brazil. I can not trust this kind of leagues again.

We see that these are only a few players but in reality, those players are the only people who are caught red-handed surely there are more of them there and probably we also have this kind of scenario in known sports as well and they are just being careful not to get caught because if they do, they will gonna ruin the sport and might lose the trust of the people forever. Just like this one, now that they are transparently known for doing this, they will lose their fans and spectators because there will be no thrill anymore to watch and they will also probably lose their sponsorship as well because of the obvious reasons.

That's how money works in any field. It is no longer passion and enjoyment to all players, to some, money matters more. Would it be worthy betting on these games still? I'd say yes. I agree that not all players are into bribery and some are still passionate. But the bottomline is, not a single player would dictate the match outcome so hopes are still there. Even with other sports, I agree that such thing is also evident. But what is our option? To not bet? I disagree. Atleast, I do still enjoy my gambling experience inspite of the idea that results might be rigged. I somehow accepted that fixed matches are existent in sports industry just like with other sport tournaments.

[uneng]

That should be expect to happen in Brazil, where corruption is recognized as one of the main traits of the nation, besides the fact sportsbooks are insanely popular right now. If you watch any games on the television you will have an impression the championship is fully sponsored by bet houses, because there are so many of them everywhere! They are on the TV's propagandas, players' uniforms, field's ads, press conference's ads...

There are popular local celebrities and athletes promoting sportsbooks as well. It was just a matter of time until some wicked players started being recruited by scam schemes involving frauds on sports matches. Since they are greedy for money, and for some reason can't improve performance on the field, they appeal to cheatery and illegality. That is the final result: an industry you can't trust anymore...

[Yogee]

Sports regulators like FIFA have probably come a long way battling match-fixing but there will always be new syndicates that will try to make their way into these smaller leagues again. I bet what was uncovered in Brazil isn't going to be the last one.

it's better to focus on popular league matches like Seria A and La Liga.

[....]There are many cases where the referee is more favored to Barcelona, although it were not found Barcelona bribed the referee, but the referee always make a controversial decision and it give an advantage for Barcelona.

Until there is a solid case against any referee that gives unfair advantage to Barcelona in their matches then it's still safe to say that La Liga is the better league to bet on.

[Davidvictorson]

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

I feel so bad for the bookmakers because they'd lose. Some of the questions that came to mind after reading this are
- Would the players still allow themselves to be bribed if they were paid well?
- Is jail term the perfect punishment for this?

"I've been working together with FIFA, as well as Brazilian clubs and Federations, with the aim of combating all types of crime, fraud or illicit action within football," CBF president Ednaldo Rodrigues said in a statement. "Those who commit crimes should not be part of Brazilian and world football."

They need to start at the football academy level and talk to the upcoming youngsters about the dangers inherent in engaging in this. Maybe start a campaign where they bring in some Brazilian football legends to add their voice to it because it is killing the love for the sports in Brazil and may even affect how scouters see players from that region.

[rdluffy]

...I will not be betting more than EPL, La Liga, Seria A, Bundesliga and Lique 1 in France. ...

Unfortunately there's a big scandal involving Barcelona in la liga too, check: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/04/football/uefa-president-aleksander-ceferin-barcelona-scandal-spt-intl/index.html

...Probably they are not getting enough pay or they are not properly monitored for gambling involvement....

Higher payments will not entirely get rid bribery or fraud in sports,...

The player who is in the example now is Santos' Bauermann, who accepted 50,000 BRL for the scheme.
Detail, his monthly salary is around 200,000 BRL, it is illogical that the player does this. There's nothing to justify this...

I would like to add they do not have a real love for the sport, because if they do they will not let these things happen, and only a big syndicate can do this, both the syndicate and the players made money they made the public believe that they are doing their best and they deserve the trust of the public.

It's sad to see this kind of news, but it's important to know and now CBF and Police are doing the investigation, probably in all clubs, for sure there's another players, and more will be discovered. I say that it is important because only by punishing those responsible can we have a more honest and fair soccer.
We bet without any inside information, everyone should place their bets in this transparent way.

[goldkingcoiner]

That should be expect to happen in Brazil, where corruption is recognized as one of the main traits of the nation, besides the fact sportsbooks are insanely popular right now. If you watch any games on the television you will have an impression the championship is fully sponsored by bet houses, because there are so many of them everywhere! They are on the TV's propagandas, players' uniforms, field's ads, press conference's ads...

There are popular local celebrities and athletes promoting sportsbooks as well. It was just a matter of time until some wicked players started being recruited by scam schemes involving frauds on sports matches. Since they are greedy for money, and for some reason can't improve performance on the field, they appeal to cheatery and illegality. That is the final result: an industry you can't trust anymore...

Although in this particular case, the players themselves are heavily involved in the fraud, it just goes to show the intentional lack of regulations and laws. It all comes down to the politicians making this possible. I would not be surprised if the latest betting fraud in Brazil filled up some politicians pockets up to the brim. If they really wanted to fight this kind of corruption, they could easily do so. They would only have to look at other countries as an example. But I doubt it will ever happen. Too many bribes in the wrong hands.

Seems sad, really. Seeing as football is a national treasure for Brazil. You would think they would treat it with more honor and reverance...

The fact that the article calls it soccer is laughable. I hate that word. I mean seriously, who call its soccer?

[PX-Z]

Player are getting bribed.

Easy money for them. Since sports nowadays are also considered as "business" then a "job" yeah, right, it's business, selling the players game just to get higher pot for their own wallet, unfortunately. But im not talking generally, there are lots of legends in sports who are not into money.

[pawanjain]

Match fixing in soccer ? It's the first time I am hearing that because from what I knew, soccer players already get paid enough and so they don't require match fixing.
I have heard about match fixing in all other games but not in soccer. Everyone involved in these match fixing should be punished.
In my country there were few cricketers involved in match fixing and got caught and were banned from playing cricket again.
Their sports career came to an end and similar punishment should be given to those soccer players involved in match fixing.

[ChuckBuck]

Match fixing in soccer ? It's the first time I am hearing that because from what I knew, soccer players already get paid enough and so they don't require match fixing.
I have heard about match fixing in all other games but not in soccer. Everyone involved in these match fixing should be punished.
In my country there were few cricketers involved in match fixing and got caught and were banned from playing cricket again.
Their sports career came to an end and similar punishment should be given to those soccer players involved in match fixing.

If you're really serious then you really are like a kid in this story. It's not a strange thing, it's almost a reality in places where football doesn't have too much influence. The larger the event, the higher the price to pay for match-fixing, so it is easier for national football leagues to be settled. It's not strange to me, I've seen a whole team get banned because of this 

[Pierre 2]

When players or teams are weaker ones or they don't recognize any ethics - they prefer this route. They fix match results. They sometimes determine outcome of many things like scoring 2 goals at the start of game etc. I feel very sad about Brazilian football watchers and fans. When there are huge allegations about this kind of match fixing scandal, I directly lose my energy, motivation. It makes you feel like watching football is nothing important.

[madnessteat]

~snip~

Personally, I'm not sure that the gambling industry would grow any stronger if cheating and fixed matches were completely eliminated. It's like corruption. As one of my acquaintances said - if the corruption component is completely eliminated, no one will be interested in being in power. I don't know how true that is, but there is some truth in it.

I think it's the same in sports - no one will promote something that doesn't bring him money. I'm sure there's a lot of intrigue surrounding sporting events, and the people in power don't pass up opportunities to profit from it.

[Slow death]

I believe that in all leagues there have already been scandals involving fixed games, some bribery of referees and players and the entire technical team, but currently with the appearance of technology and the much money that the sport has moved, things of this type are reducing a lot, it is no longer like 5 or 10 years ago, that's why in my opinion we shouldn't look at the Brazilian leagues as if all games were fixed, as if all results were manipulated, these cases that are being reported are something that does not influence the winner of the league or the quality of the teams, obviously the police need to investigate this and punish so that cases of this type do not happen anymore or that at least it is very difficult to see if this type of cases again

in my opinion, VAR technology should be put in all leagues and cameras in every corner of the stadiums and after each game there should be a team of inspectors in each league who go to see all the videos of the games of each day to see the reaction of the referees , the decision of the referees, the posture of each coach and players, with that it would be more difficult to have cases of manipulation of games, cases of fixed games, if any player or coach accepts bribes and cases of referees accept bribes.

When players or teams are weaker ones or they don't recognize any ethics - they prefer this route. They fix match results. They sometimes determine outcome of many things like scoring 2 goals at the start of game etc. I feel very sad about Brazilian football watchers and fans. When there are huge allegations about this kind of match fixing scandal, I directly lose my energy, motivation. It makes you feel like watching football is nothing important.

We cannot exaggerate and think that all games are fixed in the Brazilian league, these are things that have happened even in Europe and Africa and Asia, the winners of the Brazilian leagues win on merit, and we just see how many good Brazilian players are playing in Europe , it's not by luck or manipulation, and because the Brazilian league has a lot of quality and these cases are not going to take away that great quality, obviously they are negative things when you see something like that but there are police to investigate and courts to punish