Another betting fraud in Brazil - part 2

[coolcoinz]

When players or teams are weaker ones or they don't recognize any ethics - they prefer this route. They fix match results. They sometimes determine outcome of many things like scoring 2 goals at the start of game etc. I feel very sad about Brazilian football watchers and fans. When there are huge allegations about this kind of match fixing scandal, I directly lose my energy, motivation. It makes you feel like watching football is nothing important.

And I tend to ignore it. Life is hard and it's going to keep kicking your butt. You either succumb to this and get shitty days every now and then, or you develop a rock solid butt and go on with your life.
I'm having a blast, even when I'm losing money and a stupid betting fraud in a country far away is not going to make it any worse for me.

I'm not even surprised. I know people who were involved in something similar in low league football in my home town and they were making pennies on this, each of the players were getting something like $100 per fixed match and they still found it worth the risk.

[Mr.suevie]

Match fixing in soccer ? It's the first time I am hearing that because from what I knew, soccer players already get paid enough and so they don't require match fixing.
I have heard about match fixing in all other games but not in soccer. Everyone involved in these match fixing should be punished.
In my country there were few cricketers involved in match fixing and got caught and were banned from playing cricket again.
Their sports career came to an end and similar punishment should be given to those soccer players involved in match fixing.

Not a first time though as I have always knew that match fixing existed in soccer but never thought it would be in the Brazilian league looking at how it is somehow popular when it comes to other leagues. I always had a hunch that match fixing would be done in rural league where the players are under paid so they take the act as business for them to make easy cash but it still improper though for player to do so because its removes the joy from the game as it would now look like a stage fight or acting in the wwe.

[QueenVera]

I've only been hearing about news of fixed matches and I never thought of the possibility  and how it is been done because I've always pictured it to be a very expensive business and i was sure that if it was truly possible to fix matches, then it must be truly expensive but at the long run, it doesn't really seem expensive to fix up some local matches as I'm sure it wouldn't be easy or anything close to easy to fix International matches.

I hope that the law carries out the appropriate punishment on all the offenders involved in this kind if act so it will serve more as a lesson to other criminals  and wolves in sheep's clothing because acts like this are reasons why the gambling is still fighting global adoption.

[coin-investor]

I've only been hearing about news of fixed matches and I never thought of the possibility  and how it is been done because I've always pictured it to be a very expensive business and u was sure that if it was truly possible to fix .at he's, then I must be truly expensive but at the long run, it doesn't really seem expensive to fix up some local matches as I'm sure it wouldn't be easy or anything close to easy to fix International matches.

I hope that tge law carries out tye appropriate punishment on all the offenders involved in this kind if act so it will serve more as a lesson to other criminals  and wolves in sheep's clothing because acts like this are reasons why the gambling is still fighting global adoption easily.

Two things, a big syndicate is behind this and there are players willing to fix games in exchange for big money, this is very bad for every sports organization, players are getting good figures and they accept sponsorships, this is a big black for any sports organizations, it ruins people's trust and this will have an impact on the reputation of the organizations and possible a big reduction of gate receipts and viewerships
The only way to regain their status is for the organization to prosecute everyone involved and don't make a sacred cow or make an exception, the fastest or the earliest time that they can fire and charge these people the better.

[harizen]

...it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

Depends on how strong the law in that country regarding sports betting fraud is. If those involved can just pay money in exchange for their release and freedom, there will be no good progress in the long run and the cycle will just continue. The big syndicates, or even called "mafia" have a wide influence that even the authorities can't make them shut down.

I'm sure some of those players, teams, associations, etc. don't really want to participate in that kind of sh*t but having no choice.

Well then, God bless Brazil and I hope they can regain the trust of the people, especially those die-hard sports lovers in their country.

[o48o]

After the first one that @alegotardo posted HERE

Now they have discovered yet another big sports betting fraud scheme in Brazil, it's like the part 2 
The repercussion in Brazil is such that CBF has already asked the Federal Police to investigate.
So far there are 16 defendants involving players from the A and B series of the Brazilian championship.
Including the most notable so far is the Santos player Eduardo Bauermann, who has already been removed from the team and will probably be fired.

Here you can check the news in English: https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/brazil-prosecutors-charge-16-alleged-soccer-match-fixing-scheme-2023-05-10/

Some even considered paralyzing the Brazilian championship, but this has already been ruled out by CBF, which is working together with FIFA to investigate more efficiently.

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

I totally understand why would it happen. Easy money for everyone involved. And i am pretty sure that they thought their circle was air tight. If no one admits anything no one can be charged. Problems however start to arise when people get greedy and more people needs to shut up. At some point someone will spill out something to their friends etc, like a good tip for a sure bet. And those people can speak when they are celebrating. This is why real conspiracies / frauds only have few people involved.

[alegotardo]

After the first one that @alegotardo posted HERE

Now they have discovered yet another big sports betting fraud scheme in Brazil, it's like the part 2 
The repercussion in Brazil is such that CBF has already asked the Federal Police to investigate.
So far there are 16 defendants involving players from the A and B series of the Brazilian championship.
Including the most notable so far is the Santos player Eduardo Bauermann, who has already been removed from the team and will probably be fired.

The good part about these scams is that sooner or later something will always go wrong and someone will lose a lot of money.
Either because a foul was not committed, a card was not applied, or something like that.
Then, the bettor who enticed the player will be very nervous for the money he lost, because he counted that event as certain and bet a lot of money on it. Then the "humiliated" player has a great chance of exposing the whole scheme, bringing the case to light.

Unfortunately, Brazil, a great football host, has many cases like this, but I only know the tip of the iceberg.
Even so, it is good to know that the CBF and the federal police are acting very seriously in the cases that are unraveled.

[dunfida]

After the first one that @alegotardo posted HERE

Now they have discovered yet another big sports betting fraud scheme in Brazil, it's like the part 2 
The repercussion in Brazil is such that CBF has already asked the Federal Police to investigate.
So far there are 16 defendants involving players from the A and B series of the Brazilian championship.
Including the most notable so far is the Santos player Eduardo Bauermann, who has already been removed from the team and will probably be fired.

Here you can check the news in English: https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/brazil-prosecutors-charge-16-alleged-soccer-match-fixing-scheme-2023-05-10/

Some even considered paralyzing the Brazilian championship, but this has already been ruled out by CBF, which is working together with FIFA to investigate more efficiently.

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

I totally understand why would it happen. Easy money for everyone involved. And i am pretty sure that they thought their circle was air tight. If no one admits anything no one can be charged. Problems however start to arise when people get greedy and more people needs to shut up. At some point someone will spill out something to their friends etc, like a good tip for a sure bet. And those people can speak when they are celebrating. This is why real conspiracies / frauds only have few people involved.

The more people involved or included on the circle the more risky it would be to be spilled out or to leak out and this is where it would really be busted and it is really just right that those who are involved should really be banned,get fired, impose huge violation fees or whatsoever which it is really just that right basing on what they had just did. In speaking about match fixing or players getting bribed or whatsoever then
it isnt really that new or shocking news. We've see several in previous years and there's no way that it could be completely stopped on upcoming years to come.
Good thing that this one had been caught up because if not then lots of honest bettors or even bookies itself would be fucked up hard just because the game
is just been rigged up. Not shocking or something new but its very unethical but for the sake of money then nothing surprises us anymore.

[Mr.right85]

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

Very much. I think te level of importance we attach to these secondary leagues becomes a probable cause as to reasons why they involve in match fixing. People dint so much adorn the league or give it much importance and so, they hope people and regulators will as well turn a blind eye when it comes to monitoring the league but,its good that this isn't the case. Habits like this when not handled always grows to manifest in the top leagues.

Something am not very convinced about is, if the bookmakers or the teams involved aren't having something to gain out of this. In fact, every party with a stake is a party to ask questions.
As much as there could be victimisation, let the parties go down with the victims as well.

[Darker45]

Aside from the bookmakers and the teams and the honest bettors, I think the most affected of this kind of scandal is the sports and the sports leagues. They're gonna be losing fans and live audience because of this.

Well, if this is addressed immediately and everything will go back to normal, the damage could be minimal. But if the investigation finds out that it is actually so much worse than how it seems, who would be watching their games? If I am a fan myself and find out that fixing and other illegal negotiations are happening behind the games, I won't be following it anymore.

[Weawant]

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

Brazil again, it's heartbreaking that this is becoming a very serious issues in the Brazilian leagues. Could it be because of the soccer culture in Brazil that this crimes is increasing. I think Brazil is the most nation caught for betting fraud.

If this continues then it'll discourage people from betting or watching the matches and this will create a very serious problem for the sportsbook as they go out of business and clubs might start finding it difficult to sell tickets too.

My solution to this match fixing betting fraud happening in Brazil would be for sportsbook to spot providing betting option for lower league for soccer in Brazil. They can resume later but for the main time, they should stop until they have things inorder.

[Kakmakr]

The big problem is that the governing bodies that are supposed to set an example, is just as corrupt as the players. We saw all the corruption that are done at FIFA and the high profile people that were involved in the past... and players think they too can get away with this, because the high profile people that were involved with that... only received a slap on the wrist. 

I stopped watching Cricket when one of my Cricket heros were caught with match fixing... and I wonder how many other people stopped watching Soccer after they found out about this fraud. (Do people still care.... or do they just accept that corruption and match fixing has become the norm?)

[_act_]

I'm not even surprised. I know people who were involved in something similar in low league football in my home town and they were making pennies on this, each of the players were getting something like $100 per fixed match and they still found it worth the risk.

Match fixing is common in low leagues, but not in international leagues. This is the reason we should not go for low leagues because their matches can be fixed. Not the leagues only in your country, but many other countries too. Bookmakers are making it possible for people to bet on low leagues, but it is we that should know that going for higher leagues is better. Brazilian league is not a low league though but lower to top European leagues which manipulation can be reduced or not existing.

[Plaguedeath]

I stopped watching Cricket when one of my Cricket heros were caught with match fixing... and I wonder how many other people stopped watching Soccer after they found out about this fraud. (Do people still care.... or do they just accept that corruption and match fixing has become the norm?)

I think people prefer to forget it and keep moving because it were happen so many times, but we have see if football is become the biggest sport and can't be replaced until now.   It's like a new norm I guess, not only when the team or player caught match fixing, but if a small team can beat a big team, many people will say it's match fixing even though there's no proof.

[Doan9269]

After the first one that @alegotardo posted HERE

Now they have discovered yet another big sports betting fraud scheme in Brazil, it's like the part 2 
The repercussion in Brazil is such that CBF has already asked the Federal Police to investigate.
So far there are 16 defendants involving players from the A and B series of the Brazilian championship.
Including the most notable so far is the Santos player Eduardo Bauermann, who has already been removed from the team and will probably be fired.

Brazil had been known as one of the countries where sports activities in their varieties takes place and they are known for these because almost every Brazilian engage in doing one sport or the other, but why scam is getting common to this same country becomes a thing of concern as people will begin to loose trust in the gambling aspect if the government through its agencies on sports affairs is not making regulations or taking necessary steps to curb this fraudulent activities in Brazil regarding gambling, many may lost trust in gambling because they will be afraid of getting scammed anytime they are interested in gambling.

[Rruchi man]

Match fixing is common in low leagues, but not in international leagues. This is the reason we should not go for low leagues because their matches can be fixed. Not the leagues only in your country, but many other countries too.

Lower leagues attract lesser attention and scrutiny, it can be a reason why it is always targeted by match fixers for their match fixing. It will not be easy to fix matches easily in the bigger Leagues that almost everyone pays attention to without raising attention and suspicion. Match fixing is terrible and can entirely affect the future of betting when people begin to find out that the games are no longer free and fair as they should be.

The sort of fraud in sports may still be found in other countries that have a huge number of persons interested in sports like football just like Brazil. Match fixing is possible in countries like Argentina, Mexico, Spain and others, although maybe not yet at the Brazilian level.

[Negotiation]

A lower league should not go and if a player indulges in match fixing, there will be a general feeling that he is cheating the gamblers in cricket and betting futures are ruined. Match fixing is a game that predetermines the outcome of a match or the outcome of a certain part of the match. Incidents such as match fixing are committed by violating the rules and regulations of a particular game. The main reason for match fixing is the possibility of financial gain through gamblers. Sometimes players can do match fixing even if they want to the main reason for this is corruption.

[QueenVera]

I've only been hearing about news of fixed matches and I never thought of the possibility  and how it is been done because I've always pictured it to be a very expensive business and u was sure that if it was truly possible to fix .at he's, then I must be truly expensive but at the long run, it doesn't really seem expensive to fix up some local matches as I'm sure it wouldn't be easy or anything close to easy to fix International matches.

I hope that tge law carries out tye appropriate punishment on all the offenders involved in this kind if act so it will serve more as a lesson to other criminals  and wolves in sheep's clothing because acts like this are reasons why the gambling is still fighting global adoption easily.

Two things, a big syndicate is behind this and there are players willing to fix games in exchange for big money, this is very bad for every sports organization, players are getting good figures and they accept sponsorships, this is a big black for any sports organizations, it ruins people's trust and this will have an impact on the reputation of the organizations and possible a big reduction of gate receipts and viewerships
The only way to regain their status is for the organization to prosecute everyone involved and don't make a sacred cow or make an exception, the fastest or the earliest time that they can fire and charge these people the better.

I also think  most of these players involved  in this practice are already very shallow minded and I see no reason why I should sell my future over some few token now that I would have gained massively in the future.
This issue is becoming very rampart in the gambling industry  and I suggest it's high time we strive to put an end to all of this as it is killing the spirit  of trust in the gambling industry.
There should be serious regulations  and punishment attached to anyone who is found  involving in any form gambling malpractice  and match fixing

[molsewid]

When players or teams are weaker ones or they don't recognize any ethics - they prefer this route. They fix match results. They sometimes determine outcome of many things like scoring 2 goals at the start of game etc. I feel very sad about Brazilian football watchers and fans. When there are huge allegations about this kind of match fixing scandal, I directly lose my energy, motivation. It makes you feel like watching football is nothing important.

But the thing is they should practice integrity, whether they are famous or not they should learn that, that is what team should learn along the road. Games will be non sense and no thrill at all if most of team fixing their matches. It happens twice I think Brazil football federation or any Organization related to this should take an action and they should implement the law more efficiently.

[Strongkored]

It is absurd that this kind of scam still happens because it harms almost everyone: the bookmakers that have no way to predict this attitude and lose money, the teams, the fans, and even us honest betters who analyze to make a bet. It is a time of great expansion for bookmakers in Brazil, it is very important that all those responsible are punished so that the industry can continue to grow and prosper honestly.

The purpose of fraud is to enrich themself and that is what people involved in betting fraud in Brazil do, even I suspect that this betting fraud many exist if the investigation is carried out intensively. Betting fraud is detrimental to many parties, but it also involves many parties, not only players but also officials.
This undermines fair play and severe sanctions should be applied not only to dismissal but also fines as well as imprisonment and banning these people from participating in this sport forever because they will likely repeat it if they remain involved as players or officials. Luckily the police are also involved in this investigation so that it can provide a deterrent effect to anyone who intends to do the same thing unfortunately one of the players who was fired was only 27 years old, meaning he still had a long career but fraudulent behavior ruined his career and he paid the price for his foolishness.