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May 11, 2023, 02:38:14 PM
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Hello,
i have tried google and also looked here in the forum at the known wallets, samourai wallet is unfortunately only available as an app.

since wasabi probably no longer offers this I wanted to ask which wallets still offer the built-in mixer. maybe there are already new ones that move up but are unknown?

Trezor have this feature already implemented now as I read. More I do not know after my research, as a pure desktop wallet

For any answer, even just links, I am grateful.

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May 11, 2023, 02:54:24 PM
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Trezor and wasabi coinjoin are the same thing. Just take one coinjoin is on wasabi and the other is on Trezor wallet with the help of wasabi that are working in conjunction with Chainanlysis to sensor transactions.

Have you read about Jointmarket before: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/JoinMarket

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May 11, 2023, 03:12:19 PM
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Trezor and wasabi coinjoin are the same thing. Just take one coinjoin is on wasabi and the other is on Trezor wallet with the help of wasabi that are working in conjunction with Chainanlysis to sensor transactions.

Have you read about Jointmarket before: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/JoinMarket

Okay I understand what you are getting at.

But other providers that have this technology directly integrated in the Dekstop Wallet are not there except the ones I mentioned?
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May 11, 2023, 03:15:39 PM
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Trezor and wasabi coinjoin are the same thing. Just take one coinjoin is on wasabi and the other is on Trezor wallet with the help of wasabi that are working in conjunction with Chainanlysis to sensor transactions.

Have you read about Jointmarket before: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/JoinMarket

agree, an alternative to wasabi - trezor - samourai is JoinMarket;
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Joinmarket is a peer-to-peer system that allows users to increase the privacy and fungibility of a Bitcoin transaction through a process called "CoinJoin." In a typical Bitcoin transaction, a sender transfers a specific amount of Bitcoin to a recipient, with this event being recorded on the blockchain. However, with CoinJoin, multiple users' transactions are mixed together into a single transaction, making it difficult to determine the origins and destinations of funds.
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but there is also another alternative (I don't really understand how it works), it's called Liquid Network;
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Launched by Blocksteream in 2018, Liquid Network is a layer-2 sidechain that improves the performance and functionality of Bitcoin. With Liquid, users can complete fast, secure, and confidential transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain.
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May 11, 2023, 04:23:07 PM
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Trezor and wasabi coinjoin are the same thing. Just take one coinjoin is on wasabi and the other is on Trezor wallet with the help of wasabi that are working in conjunction with Chainanlysis to sensor transactions.

Have you read about Jointmarket before: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/JoinMarket

agree, an alternative to wasabi - trezor - samourai is JoinMarket;
Quote
Joinmarket is a peer-to-peer system that allows users to increase the privacy and fungibility of a Bitcoin transaction through a process called "CoinJoin." In a typical Bitcoin transaction, a sender transfers a specific amount of Bitcoin to a recipient, with this event being recorded on the blockchain. However, with CoinJoin, multiple users' transactions are mixed together into a single transaction, making it difficult to determine the origins and destinations of funds.
SOURCE--

but there is also another alternative (I don't really understand how it works), it's called Liquid Network;
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Launched by Blocksteream in 2018, Liquid Network is a layer-2 sidechain that improves the performance and functionality of Bitcoin. With Liquid, users can complete fast, secure, and confidential transactions on the Bitcoin blockchain.
SOURCE--


Wasabi has now taken out the coinjoin function, much to the regret of its users? https://cryptobriefing.com/wasabis-bitcoin-mixer-to-start-censoring-transactions/
Or do I understand the news wrong?
Therefore began my search for other providers and this integration.
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May 11, 2023, 06:41:09 PM
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Wasabi still offer coinjoins, but they use the blockchain analysis firm Coinfirm to spy on all your inputs and approve whether or not they are allowed to be coinjoined at all. It is the very antithesis of what you want from a privacy wallet, and so Wasabi should be avoided at all costs.

Trezor is simply a gateway to Wasabi coinjoins, so they should also be avoided for the same reasons above.

For a simple desktop wallet which offers coinjoins, then your best bet would be Sparrow (connected to your own node of course), which utilizes Samourai's Whirlpool.

For the best coinjoin implementation, but a more complex set up and use, then go for JoinMarket.
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May 11, 2023, 10:46:25 PM
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since wasabi probably no longer offers this I wanted to ask which wallets still offer the built-in mixer. maybe there are already new ones that move up but are unknown?
Sparrow wallet is open source and it's working similar like Samourai wallet but for desktop computers, and Wasabi wallet still works as usual btw.
Another wallet you can check out is called Mercury wallet, it is using different approach using Bitcoin Layer 2 and statechains for swapping keys.
This is not classical mixer but it works fine if you want to have more privacy:
https://mercurywallet.com/
 
Trezor have this feature already implemented now as I read. More I do not know after my research, as a pure desktop wallet
Trezor has partnered with Wasabi, so it is using same CoinJoin coordinator like Wasabi.

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