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June 01, 2023, 08:34:26 PM
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one of the things that bothers me about gambling with crypto is the lack of identity verification. the self ban list that brick casinos, and their sites, have can really help someone with a gambling problem. they can add their name to the list, and they are barred from entering that casino, certainly from cashing anything out.
What do you mean ? a little difficult to understand but if I see that self-exclusion in the casino exists and you just need to ask the customer support team directly.
regarding KYC you are free to choose to bet on reputable sites but require KYC and if you are reluctant to fill in your personal data you can choose web3 casino.

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June 01, 2023, 08:42:17 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

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June 01, 2023, 09:39:13 PM
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Intentions play an important role, but we are humans and we need stuff to makes us think twice when these intentions are being obfuscated by our own "humanity". Recognizing and acknowledging these tendencies is an essential step in practicing responsible gambling and it is in our hands to use the best resources and share them with others here.

Yes, sometimes those things that we see and that humanity allows us to intervene in the gambling processes sometimes make us lose and win, sometimes I would like to have the coldness of what robots and things have that have no feelings or emotions , but when we mix those things or those emotions, Sometimes they make us lose, I think they make us lose more than win , that's why when these things are mixed in casinos and trading , they usually have very bad results , it's Something normal but that very Rarely makes us win , that happens to me a lot.

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June 01, 2023, 11:27:12 PM
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one of the things that bothers me about gambling with crypto is the lack of identity verification. the self ban list that brick casinos, and their sites, have can really help someone with a gambling problem. they can add their name to the list, and they are barred from entering that casino, certainly from cashing anything out.
What do you mean ? a little difficult to understand but if I see that self-exclusion in the casino exists and you just need to ask the customer support team directly.
regarding KYC you are free to choose to bet on reputable sites but require KYC and if you are reluctant to fill in your personal data you can choose web3 casino.
We know that web3 casino nowadays isnt really that rampant. Dont know if there's already actually one that is existing but despite on being centralized or being licensed we do still have some platforms which doesnt
really ask out some outright KYC or verification which is something that still considerable to deal off with. Everything should really be just fine if you are really just setting out those boundaries or limits on which it would really be that understandable that everything should really be having that limitation and having that real approach on how gambling should be treated up. This isnt something that could give out constant profits
and if you are really that aiming for making money then this isnt the right space for you to focus on. Dont make yourself that get desperate just because you do really aim for more money
and this would kicked in or the sole reason on why you would really be making those desperate moves or measures about it.

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June 01, 2023, 11:48:21 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

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June 02, 2023, 12:39:40 AM
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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.

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June 02, 2023, 01:23:14 PM
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One thing is there are people who don't really realized that they are addicted into gambling until someone noticed it. There are people who thinks that they are just casually doing gambling but in reality it affects their life so much that they haven't really consider gambling as a problem. Hurting them or making them lower their pride is another factor, I believe that the advice you can give to an addicted gambler is depending on what characteristic he has. There are people who likes direct advices but there are people who can easily get hurt when they are receiving hard lessons. So yeah there are a lot of factors in giving advice and not hurting someone close to you.
Starting from the fad of gambling that will eventually make them addicted to gambling and after playing gambling for a long time, they become addicted to gambling. And it is true that people will not realize that they are already experiencing gambling addiction because they feel that nothing has changed about them even though something has changed them, namely gambling. That is why many people who are addicted to gambling do not want to listen to advice from other people where people who are addicted to gambling feel that they have not changed and are still gambling. Maybe if we find out that he has a gambling addiction, we can slowly approach him and try to get him to open up about his gambling problem so he can start telling us more about his gambling activities.

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June 02, 2023, 01:40:10 PM
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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.
It's same like you're using a different banks or different digital money wallet, you can still playing even though the casino know your real name. Not all online fiat casino is licensed, there's always an illegal casino and you can gamble without any kind restriction.

It's not about online fiat casino or crypto casino, maybe CBDC casino in the future, but it's all depends on your self control.

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June 03, 2023, 09:26:59 AM
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Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
The Budget which should not effect on your emotions means set that budget which you lose, and this will not effect on you depression level.
And not become an addict of gambling which harmful for your health or for your mental level and be aware when your are gambling and control yourself when you are loosing the bets.
This must be a small amount but not totally because there is no thrill on it anymore. Sometimes when we already done this practice, we can't feel to be uncontended so we are going to deposit again. This is why I am practicing to separate my entire funds from my online wallets so that I won't be forced to re-deposit again.

Being an addict in gambling is surely damaging our mental health which can also affect us physically because we can hardly eat and sleep when we are addicted on one thing. Worse can happen is we can threaten other people only to get more money which can support our bad habits. Gambling is very manipulative so one should be fully prepared before they engage on it.

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June 03, 2023, 10:40:30 PM
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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.
Which show us those measures were never going to work to begin with, after all someone that is going through an addiction will do everything they have to do in order to satisfy their cravings, and with the huge amount of fiat and cryptocurrency casinos online it is unrealistic to think that every single one of them can block them in the case they want to self-exclude, so it seems people will have to rely on their own strength of character if they want to overcome their addiction to gambling.

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This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue
Not many people unfortunately knows the real and actual danger of gambling too much, in some cases its can be considered as a drug or worse that’s why it’s not advised for people that get easily addicted to drugs or alcohol since there is a higher chance for them to get addicted.

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Drugs and alcohol is number one for gambling addiction because it add more excitement and good feeling on that adrenaline rush ( my own experience)

One more thing to consider is activities, it’s so important to have other activities or hobbies to do at home or outside and replace that empty time you spend in gambling by your hobbies such as working out, practicing sport, trips or games with friends.

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Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.
Most people can't do this because they feel disgrace to seek help for their gambling addiction. Each person has different character and behavior too, if he's an introvert person who think he can do anything without any single friend, he will not call his friend since he will think calling a friend just make the problem more complicated.

I think even someone want to gamble all of their money, it's fine as long as they not sell their assets or anything that will used for gamble.
It is always very difficult  for someone who is already making huge loss in gambling make a phone call especially  to family  members and it will be even most worst for an introvert.
I don't think its a nice idea to gamble away all of ones money  because there is no way a gambling addict will gamble away all of their money and not be tempted to sell their property or begin tempering with their assets.
My advice is that the moment you notice someone  who is gambling excessively  especially  without any track records  of profits then we should make it a duty to help them battle such addiction  before it gets out of hand.

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June 04, 2023, 01:40:42 PM
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South Park is right, if you can't rely on yourself to beat your gambling addiction there will never be a solution for you, don't go around looking for a solution when you are the only one that can get your problem fixed, I don't drink and I don't do smoking, and I keep wondering how people get addicted to such things because they are not something that sweater the tongue, the first time I tried them out I was like what the hell? 😄 but yeah this is gambling which is different, money making easily get anybody addicted, either the right way or the illegal ways.

I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

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June 04, 2023, 02:26:43 PM
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This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue
What about stopping gambling and betting? Can you direct your energy in a positive and creative direction, and not in a senseless waste of time chasing a win? Gamblers don't admit it, but the main goal is still getting a win, and not a process. If you want money, then start working and earn money, and not lose your last money in slots. That is if you've already gone a bit far in gaming and betting.

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i'm saying thats one of the draw backs to crypto casino sites. people with gambling addictions have fewer tools to prevent them from gambling. say i live in NV, and I add my self to a block list. i can't make a deposit at any state licensed casino website. if i make an account, once i add my bank or cc to make a deposit i will be blocked. yet, if i goto roobet i can make a btc deposit and be playing.. and there is no way to associate a btc address to a person- i mean, you can, but they will just use a different one.
The question is, if a person is too much addicted to gambling, even if they add themselves in a block list and platforms don't allow them to gamble, does that stop them from gambling? I don't think so, they will still find a way to gamble no matter what, they might go and look for street gambling, they will visit a land-based casino, they will find some way to gamble because the urge to gamble won't let them stay in peace.

So it is basically all dependent on one's own self if they want to stop gambling or not and if someone's addiction is already out of control, it becomes pretty difficult to get it over with as there will always be some way for them to fulfill their urge to gamble.

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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

What do you mean by self-block list? But I agree with what you said that as long as the gambler can control himself while playing gambling, there is still a big chance that he will change or stop his inclination to play gambling, this is true.

Because once a gambler can no longer control himself, it only shows that there is already a sign of gambling addiction and this is a problem for such a gambler. Because controlling emotions is definitely not going well because of addictions.



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June 04, 2023, 04:25:44 PM
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I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

It's sad to see someone close to gambling addiction to the point of having to end his own life because gambling has taken everything from him. He should have stopped before it was too late, despite losing almost everything he could have. But he has to tell people close to him so that people close to him can really know how to help him. Without it, no one could help him, which would end his life.

That's why we shouldn't depend on gambling and never think gambling can make money. Many people have tried but failed and lost everything; that person is an example. Getting rich from gambling is possible but we shouldn't try it because the risk behind it is not worth what we will sacrifice.

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June 04, 2023, 04:42:27 PM
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Those are actually good little pieces of advice imo. As you said I believe casual gamblers should set a budget limit before they even start. For example, you could say "As a gambler", I will only allow myself to spend $100 this week on gambling, and the following week I'll limit it to $50, and so on. It's important not to exceed this limit under any circumstances. Even if you experience losses it's better to stop and avoid the temptation to use more money.

If you can't handle to this practice, I'm certain you'll find yourself on the negative side of gambling losing a lot of money that you wouldn't even anticipate losing. It's important to recognize the seriousness of this issue and the potential problems it can lead to.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue
For gamblers who feel they may be dealing with addiction it is important for them to seek some help from others, whether it be close friends or family members as you mentioned and make sure to get forced by taking breaks time to time.
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June 04, 2023, 04:55:32 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.
It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

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Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible
Drugs and alcohol is number one for gambling addiction because it add more excitement and good feeling on that adrenaline rush ( my own experience)

One more thing to consider is activities, it’s so important to have other activities or hobbies to do at home or outside and replace that empty time you spend in gambling by your hobbies such as working out, practicing sport, trips or games with friends.
Usually gambling will be attached to alcohol and drugs but usually it is done when playing a land casino or at an online casino with friends, but I think it's fun to play alone with just a cell phone so I can avoid alcohol and drugs so I can focus on playing gambling and looking for pleasure in every game.

So far, I admit that sports can also help us to fill our free time or for example take up a hobby that keeps us busy so we don't have to be fixated on filling our time by just looking for the pleasure of playing gambling, but at least spending our free time with other hobbies, I usually use it to bicycle. it's healthier makes the mind more positive

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