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June 04, 2023, 05:17:27 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.
It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.

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June 04, 2023, 05:18:40 PM
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This is just the basics, but anyone should be aware of it:

Budget: set it BEFORE you start gambling and stick to it.
Have a break from time to time, it is important to let your brain stop and consider.
Avoid drugs / drink as much as possible, they will make you loose some control innevitably.
Seek help if you feel you are no longer in control. Make a phone call to a friend or go out and speak with someone.

Anything else anyone can think of? Like... read this post before gambling? Tongue
What about stopping gambling and betting? Can you direct your energy in a positive and creative direction, and not in a senseless waste of time chasing a win? Gamblers don't admit it, but the main goal is still getting a win, and not a process. If you want money, then start working and earn money, and not lose your last money in slots. That is if you've already gone a bit far in gaming and betting.

I can agree that there are not such things like free lunch and miraculous wining of huge amount of money in gambling. However, not all gamblers play jut hoping to get rich but they really enyoj the process.
I also think that very few gamblers can actually make enough for a living, for majority this is just for fun and probably some extra money from time to time
And for those who are already addicted is not so easy to stop. I believe that most very active gamblers have specific mindset that is not so easy to understand for those who are not into gambling.

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June 04, 2023, 05:55:02 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.
It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.
It depends on each gambler who wants to do self-exclusion and if the gambler seriously has the desire to exclude himself to stop addiction, he will definitely not do anything related to gambling and even better, the gambler will stay away from the internet.
Because the internet is one of the triggers for a gambling addict to return to gambling in all ways so staying away from the internet is a good way for me.
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June 04, 2023, 07:01:49 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.

What do you mean by self-block list? But I agree with what you said that as long as the gambler can control himself while playing gambling, there is still a big chance that he will change or stop his inclination to play gambling, this is true.

Because once a gambler can no longer control himself, it only shows that there is already a sign of gambling addiction and this is a problem for such a gambler. Because controlling emotions is definitely not going well because of addictions.

Obviously the emcoines next to the addiction is the most dangerous thing that can happen, because the adrenaline in people is always very harmful, it is difficult to control things when they get out of control, I think that when you enter a casino you have I have the predilection that anything can happen , you can lose what you enter in the casino or multiply it and what almost always happens is that you lose money , and for this reason you should not be sad or fall into depression or enter a casino is committing the money that is going to be risked , that is why the problem of addiction is so dangerous when it is not attacked.

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June 04, 2023, 07:57:06 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.
It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.
It depends on each gambler who wants to do self-exclusion and if the gambler seriously has the desire to exclude himself to stop addiction, he will definitely not do anything related to gambling and even better, the gambler will stay away from the internet.
Because the internet is one of the triggers for a gambling addict to return to gambling in all ways so staying away from the internet is a good way for me.

I don't think that it's really possible for a gambler to live without internet. I think in this age and time no one will be able to live without an internet connection. Internet is a necessary thing for this time and restricting yourself from using it is not going to be helpful in reducing the addiction.

Those who avoid something for sometime are mostly reattracted to that thing with higher intensity. And, in this case if a gambler is going to restrain from online casinos than things will be even more worse for that person. It's always better to limit the usage of those casino sites in order to decrease the intensity of the addiction.

I agree that if a gambler has made the decision that he/she is going to give up the addiction of gambling then the person will do their best to avoid any activity that takes them towards gambling. They will have to focus on other things and have conversation with loved ones so that the intensity of the addiction starts reducing every day. However, it isn't an easy thing to give up an addiction, it requires a lot of effort and will power to be successful in this endeavor.

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June 04, 2023, 08:02:58 PM
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one of the things that bothers me about gambling with crypto is the lack of identity verification. the self ban list that brick casinos, and their sites, have can really help someone with a gambling problem. they can add their name to the list, and they are barred from entering that casino, certainly from cashing anything out.
I don't think many of us will really understand what you mean by the privacy verification issues you mentioned that it is the problem with cryptocurrency casinos since verification has been an easy task on most of the crypto casino sites we have around.

Most of the players here already know about KYC and what to expect from a casino that is regulated and requires KYC both as a monetary requirement or a prerequisite to solving some issue in the casino, but regardless, cryptocurrency casinos don't provide an escape route to KYC procedures.

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South Park is right, if you can't rely on yourself to beat your gambling addiction there will never be a solution for you, don't go around looking for a solution when you are the only one that can get your problem fixed, I don't drink and I don't do smoking, and I keep wondering how people get addicted to such things because they are not something that sweater the tongue, the first time I tried them out I was like what the hell? 😄 but yeah this is gambling which is different, money making easily get anybody addicted, either the right way or the illegal ways.

I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

For want of a better analogy, imagine a bulldozer in your lawn destroying everything you hold dear. Achieving victory? Yeah, try taking a road trip by yourself without a GPS. People can become addicted to a wide variety of things, and the "why" behind this is a potential treasure for understanding. Though smoking and drinking weren't your thing, remember that to someone else they may be the equivalent of a warm blanket on a chilly night. Gamblers? They could like the excitement, the opportunity for quick money, or the shared experience. It's not so much that one's "taste buds go wild" as that one's vices acquire an irresistible pull on one's personality.

The story your friend told you is heartbreaking; it's a stark reminder of the destructive potential of gambling addiction. It begs for the assistance of an expert. Successful treatment may involve talking it out, CBT, or even medication. And certainly, learning the ropes of gambling before diving in is essential. It's a gamble with substantial potential for loss, not a surefire way to get rich. Play it calm and calculated, fellow netizens, if you're going to ante up at all!

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June 04, 2023, 10:20:49 PM
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i guess what i mean is, with these smaller crypto casinos, you can deposit and play before filling out any information. with a brick casino's site you can't deposit without adding your bank info or cc... so if you're on the self block list you are stopped before you can relapse.

As I understand this, you mean to say that on a reputed big casino where KYC is mandatory, the casino has all over data. And if you start to lose more, you should move yourself in self block list (i don't know if this feature exists in casino sites) and you are not allowed to play further until you unblock yourself.

Anyways keep in mind again this is the gambler's decision and even without including yourself in the self block list, the gambler can control himself and refrain from gambling if he is willing to stop. However, most gamblers fail to have control over their emotions.
It's mandatory for casinos to have option for self-exclusion. Without that they can't have a gambling licence.
And it's not like you can unblock yourself at any time. It used to be quite easy to find a workaround for these but laws are getting tighter on this, as there's no point having self exclusion if you can just undo that so easily. That wouldn't be self exclusion, it would be just "not gambling".

This is true. The problem on self exclusion was a user can always register on different casino to play again if his addiction kicks in. This is the advantage of casino being accessible online because players has a lot of way to still play despite their account is on self exclusion status.

I think knew this that’s why they ate just adding this feature for compliance only but they are not very strict on it’s implementation because some user still bypass it through the use of vpn abnd new register account.
It depends on each gambler who wants to do self-exclusion and if the gambler seriously has the desire to exclude himself to stop addiction, he will definitely not do anything related to gambling and even better, the gambler will stay away from the internet.
Because the internet is one of the triggers for a gambling addict to return to gambling in all ways so staying away from the internet is a good way for me.
Well said Friend, and to correct you a little, it would have been much better if you said the addict should stay away from using a smart phone or a laptop or desktop computer.. Because with any of this devices still in possession of the  said addict, it's pretty much impossible to stay away from the internet, at least, this is something I personally believe on my own purely based on personal experience

This days, it's pretty easy to use the self exclude button on the gambling site, but pretty much difficult to stick to it without help, this is because, for an already addicted gambler, there is no way you enter the internet that you won't see a gambling ad, and that could result to another serious urge to out and gamble.

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June 04, 2023, 10:35:10 PM
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It depends on each gambler who wants to do self-exclusion and if the gambler seriously has the desire to exclude himself to stop addiction, he will definitely not do anything related to gambling and even better, the gambler will stay away from the internet.
Because the internet is one of the triggers for a gambling addict to return to gambling in all ways so staying away from the internet is a good way for me.

The use of self-exclusion is dependent on the desire of the player to control his gambling activity. Even when not addicted, gamblers can use the self-exclusion function of the casino in order to mitigate their gambling activities and alienate themselves to gambling in a short period of time.  Within this period of time, the slight urge to gambling may return to normal thus making the gambler who uses self-exclusion to fully control themselves again since they will be barred from accessing the platform momentarily and within that period of time, the eagerness to play gambling game might be lessened.


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June 05, 2023, 05:50:59 AM
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The use of self-exclusion is dependent on the desire of the player to control his gambling activity. Even when not addicted, gamblers can use the self-exclusion function of the casino in order to mitigate their gambling activities and alienate themselves to gambling in a short period of time.  Within this period of time, the slight urge to gambling may return to normal thus making the gambler who uses self-exclusion to fully control themselves again since they will be barred from accessing the platform momentarily and within that period of time, the eagerness to play gambling game might be lessened.
Such a thing can only be done by those who are new to gambling or gambling just for fun, so it is far different from a gambling addict or someone who really gambles because it has certain goals such as getting some profit, it will be difficult or even impossible to do that kind of thing.
But on the other hand I agree with what you are saying here because before they really become gambling addicts they can do it at any time so they don't think too much about gambling until they become addicts.

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June 05, 2023, 06:03:28 AM
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Most of the people who struggle with gambling addiction became hooked when their decide to chase a particular direction and losing id the most looked up to direction that have led to gambling addiction since the player will constantly chase after the loss and in a bet to recover become addicted.

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June 05, 2023, 06:47:42 AM
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I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

It's sad to see someone close to gambling addiction to the point of having to end his own life because gambling has taken everything from him. He should have stopped before it was too late, despite losing almost everything he could have. But he has to tell people close to him so that people close to him can really know how to help him. Without it, no one could help him, which would end his life.

That's why we shouldn't depend on gambling and never think gambling can make money. Many people have tried but failed and lost everything; that person is an example. Getting rich from gambling is possible but we shouldn't try it because the risk behind it is not worth what we will sacrifice.
The family tried helping, to say the truth, he was arrested at first and he promised to never gamble anymore, he started paying all the loans he took from people to gamble, few family members helped in the payment too and time passed by very fast.

A year later we thought he finally gave up, he looks more serious and no traces of playing bet was detected again, but that's all a lie, because he was playing on a second phone he no one knew he had, and things got worsen.

Gambling is not by force, it's not a must to gamble, it's been a while that I gambled last and before that I don't win but lose all my money to gambling, if those money are not mine or I took a loan, I would have been in big trouble right now, I really pity the life of those gbling addicts
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June 05, 2023, 09:47:02 AM
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I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

It's sad to see someone close to gambling addiction to the point of having to end his own life because gambling has taken everything from him. He should have stopped before it was too late, despite losing almost everything he could have. But he has to tell people close to him so that people close to him can really know how to help him. Without it, no one could help him, which would end his life.

That's why we shouldn't depend on gambling and never think gambling can make money. Many people have tried but failed and lost everything; that person is an example. Getting rich from gambling is possible but we shouldn't try it because the risk behind it is not worth what we will sacrifice.
The family tried helping, to say the truth, he was arrested at first and he promised to never gamble anymore, he started paying all the loans he took from people to gamble, few family members helped in the payment too and time passed by very fast.

A year later we thought he finally gave up, he looks more serious and no traces of playing bet was detected again, but that's all a lie, because he was playing on a second phone he no one knew he had, and things got worsen.

Gambling is not by force, it's not a must to gamble, it's been a while that I gambled last and before that I don't win but lose all my money to gambling, if those money are not mine or I took a loan, I would have been in big trouble right now, I really pity the life of those gbling addicts
That is the impact of gambling addiction. He can change just to show that he is not gambling anymore and can control himself and even show that he is not addicted to gambling anymore. But in the end, people around him would still know what he was doing and even if he tried to hide his gambling activities, people would still know about it.

The impact of this second will usually be worse than the previous one and we can never imagine what it will do. If he's been through something like that, maybe he needs a professional to help him cure his gambling addiction. The important thing is that we can control ourselves and not try to take loans to gamble. And if we can't do that, it's better not to gamble at all.

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The use of self-exclusion is dependent on the desire of the player to control his gambling activity. Even when not addicted, gamblers can use the self-exclusion function of the casino in order to mitigate their gambling activities and alienate themselves to gambling in a short period of time.  Within this period of time, the slight urge to gambling may return to normal thus making the gambler who uses self-exclusion to fully control themselves again since they will be barred from accessing the platform momentarily and within that period of time, the eagerness to play gambling game might be lessened.
Such a thing can only be done by those who are new to gambling or gambling just for fun, so it is far different from a gambling addict or someone who really gambles because it has certain goals such as getting some profit, it will be difficult or even impossible to do that kind of thing.
But on the other hand I agree with what you are saying here because before they really become gambling addicts they can do it at any time so they don't think too much about gambling until they become addicts.

It is said for self help books that you should read them when you don't need them, because when you eventually need them they don't help much. With the mentioned feature we could say the same: self-exclusion is a great tool when you are able to use it. For those already addicted, I don't think it will help much unless the gambler asks for help and somebody else helps him click on the exclusion.

But it's always good to have at least the option.

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June 05, 2023, 11:33:25 AM
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This is quite important because indeed with conditions like that we can create several conditions where we can gamble as usual without worrying too much about going too far in gambling.
Basic things like this seem quite trivial, but because of the trivialities of things that make it important because if trivial things like this are not done then indeed we are getting closer to addiction that occurs.
But sometimes many people don't realize things; like this so they hit what they should have determined beforehand which resulted in them becoming uncontrollable in the gambling that was carried out.

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June 05, 2023, 11:47:49 AM
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Most of the people who struggle with gambling addiction became hooked when their decide to chase a particular direction and losing id the most looked up to direction that have led to gambling addiction since the player will constantly chase after the loss and in a bet to recover become addicted.

You cannot decide on what you will see or have in gambling because it's a game of winning or loosing irrespective of the status you bear or the kind of person you are, it is very important that we see that we device a means to engage ourselves as to reduce the over activities in gambling that we often create time for, we can always get ourselves busy doing other things like reading, engaging house chores, going out on picnic, traveling, or we can as well get ourselves a good job to always keep us busy and engaged just to avoid being idle doing nothing.

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June 05, 2023, 11:50:29 AM
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This is quite important because indeed with conditions like that we can create several conditions where we can gamble as usual without worrying too much about going too far in gambling.
Basic things like this seem quite trivial, but because of the trivialities of things that make it important because if trivial things like this are not done then indeed we are getting closer to addiction that occurs.
But sometimes many people don't realize things; like this so they hit what they should have determined beforehand which resulted in them becoming uncontrollable in the gambling that was carried out.

Exactly true, when we go through of being impulsive, we often overlook what truly is important to us. We disregard the small details of our needs and fundamentals. Their needs or their long-term goals, their mind forgets those and just focuses on their impulses to gamble and bet more than the person can afford to lose. Then later on in their life when it is already late, that is when they will realize and regret it. When things got slightly worse, they thought there is no other way out but to lose everything, they're in a loop of succumbing themselves.

I believe, having someone in the family to be accountable will be a great help. Gambling is a good opportunity of luck, but also had a great risk of losing your self or the things you worked hard for. So regulate yourself and your gambling.

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June 05, 2023, 03:59:12 PM
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If a gambler has problems playing in a casino, I strongly advise you to play online casinos that provide a self-limiting feature.
Self-limitation allows you to block your account for a day, a month, a year, and even forever. Set a loss limit. It is very comfortable! For example, you managed to win a large sum of money. After withdrawing money, for example, set a deposit limit of $10-100 per day or week.
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June 13, 2023, 07:22:07 PM
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South Park is right, if you can't rely on yourself to beat your gambling addiction there will never be a solution for you, don't go around looking for a solution when you are the only one that can get your problem fixed, I don't drink and I don't do smoking, and I keep wondering how people get addicted to such things because they are not something that sweater the tongue, the first time I tried them out I was like what the hell? 😄 but yeah this is gambling which is different, money making easily get anybody addicted, either the right way or the illegal ways.

I do know someone very close who was addicted to gambling, he lost his life by suicide and the letter he wrote is so sad, he so much believed in gambling as the only way to get is life together and gambling took everything from him, gambling addiction is something that affects the way gamblers think, do not get in such corner.

You don't have to plan a life changing solution with gambling, it's not good for your health and for your future, there is assurance that you will lose, that's why it's called gambling, I think people should try to understand what gambling is before they start thinking that they can get rich through gambling, I have never had such thought in my head and I will never do that to myself.

It is funny that you mention this as this was my first impression when I smoked my first cigarette and I drank my first beer, I thought how can people get addicted to this stuff since their taste is so awful? And while I can drink a beer occasionally I am still extremely disgusted by cigarettes, however gambling is different in the sense that not only it is not a substance you consume but something you do, and by nature humans like games as we learn a great deal from them, making gambling for those susceptible to become addicted a very dangerous activity to do.
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The family tried helping, to say the truth, he was arrested at first and he promised to never gamble anymore, he started paying all the loans he took from people to gamble, few family members helped in the payment too and time passed by very fast.

A year later we thought he finally gave up, he looks more serious and no traces of playing bet was detected again, but that's all a lie, because he was playing on a second phone he no one knew he had, and things got worsen.

Gambling is not by force, it's not a must to gamble, it's been a while that I gambled last and before that I don't win but lose all my money to gambling, if those money are not mine or I took a loan, I would have been in big trouble right now, I really pity the life of those gbling addicts
Ever think, how'd we end up in this spot? Society's glorification of gambling as thrill-seeking, overlooking the wreckage it brings, is lamentable.

Lets call it - this guy was trapped in a ruinous habit. The stealth, the deceit—gambling on a secondary phone! An indication of how low he'd fallen. Its pitiful!

Hard facts - gambling's not a ticket to fortune; its a void threatening to consume you. Heard tales of folks trying to outwit the odds? Spoiler alert—they fail. The scales always tip towards the house. Our man here is living proof.

Family stepped in, yet, their hands were tied. Addiction, the cruel beast, reigned supreme. Reminder for all: Gambling' not a stairway to wealth; its a treacherous slide to disaster!

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