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January 19, 2024, 02:07:19 PM
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One more idea is to get people to know about the games that are being played. Knowing the odds and the rules can help you gamble more safely and with more knowledge. The idea of encouraging people to learn more about the games they want to play is in line with safe gambling. Encouragement of mindfulness and well-informed choices leads to a better and more enjoyable gambling experience overall.

I'm sure this is what every gambler should pay more attention to, understanding must be prioritized and prioritized because it is not uncommon or even most people are wrong in understanding and responding to what gambling is, especially in terms of winning opportunities so that they are very easy to finally enter the addiction phase unconsciously, and of course I am also sure that if gamblers understand about the concept of gambling then surely they will not dare to act carelessly and do things beyond their abilities because of course the risks in gambling are far greater than they imagine.

As we know that gambling is nothing more than a game of chance that has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee of winning at the end of the session, if you want to win then you have to have good luck but the problem is that everyone will never know when they can get lucky and it is very difficult to get lucky in a row and that is why most gamblers lose much more often than win which will only come occasionally.

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January 19, 2024, 02:10:46 PM
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To the list of advices mentioned here already, I would add that gambler should find or try to find a person that will monitor gamblers experience. Such person is needed to stop gambler from going far. Some kind of a mentor, observer. A person that does not involve into process, but when the situation gets tense, he will advice to take a break, pause, say that it is enough for today. Why such person is needed? Because gambler will admit that things have gone to far when they are already far. Gambler will never confess that he needs help.
No one would afford to give up when they're watching their portfolio grow in tremendous profits. A companion that would understand you all round and ensure they're quite important qualities utilized to belt up the good run. Things will always go wrong because if a gambler doesn't plan, then that indirectly means he plans to fail, a very simple brief statement. The lifestyle of a gambler doesn't seem easy as it sounds, we have addicted gamblers that have already given up on life but with the appropriate association of peers, things will turn around for the better.

         -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.

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January 19, 2024, 02:17:32 PM
 #1203

One more idea is to get people to know about the games that are being played. Knowing the odds and the rules can help you gamble more safely and with more knowledge. The idea of encouraging people to learn more about the games they want to play is in line with safe gambling. Encouragement of mindfulness and well-informed choices leads to a better and more enjoyable gambling experience overall.

I'm sure this is what every gambler should pay more attention to, understanding must be prioritized and prioritized because it is not uncommon or even most people are wrong in understanding and responding to what gambling is, especially in terms of winning opportunities so that they are very easy to finally enter the addiction phase unconsciously, and of course I am also sure that if gamblers understand about the concept of gambling then surely they will not dare to act carelessly and do things beyond their abilities because of course the risks in gambling are far greater than they imagine.

As we know that gambling is nothing more than a game of chance that has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee of winning at the end of the session, if you want to win then you have to have good luck but the problem is that everyone will never know when they can get lucky and it is very difficult to get lucky in a row and that is why most gamblers lose much more often than win which will only come occasionally.

Right.
In general, I believe that the whole difficulty of maintaining psychological control over oneself in gambling lies in the fact that it is not clear when gambling ceases to be a game for fun, and when it becomes an addiction, when the player only wants to win (in the last stage of addiction, money is not important to him , he already lives only for the premonition of the Game). You should always understand your mood before the game, during it and after the game.
Players play for money, and if it's not fun, then you shouldn't play!

Perhaps this is the line - when you understand that the casino is no fun.
Then you need to stop playing.

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January 19, 2024, 02:39:15 PM
 #1204

That for every movement in the world you need to have money , there is no other option if we do not have money things will go wrong for us and that will cause us to lose many things, on the personal level we ourselves are people who will always have Something to do well in things. casinos, for everything that a casino means, if we are tempted to play in a casino with money that we can lose, then there are no problems , it is what is recommended  , but even more so if we start to see things when we are in a casino We study how to be able to make money quickly without so much trouble, and that is where the problem lies, because we need to have more, and when we bet more and more we cannot control that, for that reason we must Control ourselves so that These things that are so unpleasant don't happen, I don't know, but I hate losing money in such a stupid way, because it's something that's not within my Budget and it's something that I always have to see that it shouldn't be done.

I have always said that we casinos , when we enter , must be careful with our money, the premise must always be to take care of it and try to save it and multiply it, because otherwise things will not turn out well if we do them for the sake of doing them, we will always look for the best I want to have control and what better way than what I say, if you have money willing to lose you can allocate it only to the game and nothing happens, but if there is no money to lose , we cannot play , playing will always mean losing money, so Otherwise things will be very difficult for them to improve, in this sense we are people who must be responsible with our own things, something as important as money should not be Wasted or treated Badly , much less Badly spent on something that will not bring us benefits, if the casino is for fun, but the control that we must have over the money is Unique and we must not Generate any other type of Feeling.

Money is vital and should be spent carefully, as the lack of money isn't good for anyone or project. The gambling journey also needs money to sustain it and provide fun or wins for the gamblers. If a player decides to neglect the need to manage his money, he is not only doing himself wrong, but a bad stewardship to the society. Existentialism is about choices. And whatever it is, gets to affect the society. The money we own also belongs to the society, we didn't create it, instead through some means, a body gave it to us. Hence, maltreating the money will only affect our economy and that of the society. Especially when the gambler runs out of money, he'd be bothered on other financial responsibilities which he needs to look into and resolve.

However, this it not only applicable to gambling, other aspects of life, where money is needed, shouldn't be abused with lots of unaccounted money. The problem with such gamblers is the inability to confide with somebody or listen to the advice of other persons. Although, it's not the gambler's fault, depending on their experiences, the player may have not been oriented enough to understand that gambling requires management skills and self-control to bypass the urge to stake almost all our bank rolls. Losing those trainings, may end up putting the player in a situation where he'd never learn a thing on gambling. Since the process could get to a stage where the newbie or gambler wouldn't stay in control anymore. In a situation where the gambler drinks before gambling, for instance, if not cautioned earlier, it'll be hard to correct when he's now indebted to the habit that he won't reverse his habit anymore.


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January 19, 2024, 05:12:39 PM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

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January 19, 2024, 06:31:08 PM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

If there's someone who cares for them who can make them realize how much time and money that they already consuming from their gambling might help them to cope up and try to restart thier mindsets, I guess this follows the rules which self-will can be back up by those people who really aiming to help and trying to make sure that you are going to be fine when you try to resolve this kind of a situation while playing.

Being too deep into gambling can result to a much bigger problem, you need to re-assess everything once you have this kind of situation, it can develop awareness and good decision making when tough time already beside you, you just need someone to boost your will to process the right way.

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January 19, 2024, 08:33:46 PM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

If there's someone who cares for them who can make them realize how much time and money that they already consuming from their gambling might help them to cope up and try to restart thier mindsets, I guess this follows the rules which self-will can be back up by those people who really aiming to help and trying to make sure that you are going to be fine when you try to resolve this kind of a situation while playing.

Being too deep into gambling can result to a much bigger problem, you need to re-assess everything once you have this kind of situation, it can develop awareness and good decision making when tough time already beside you, you just need someone to boost your will to process the right way.

But overall I honestly can't say that helping a gambler to change his approach to his gambling activities is an easy thing, this is very difficult to do because an addicted gambler already has a belief that they think is right, I understand that this is a good action to help an addict to get out of his wrong mindset in dealing with gambling, if you advise them too much to change their habits and beliefs in a better and logical direction then I think this will only make everything end in a fight, you will be considered as a person who is too interfering with other people's affairs.

On the other hand, of course I agree with your idea that getting too deep into gambling will only make us suffer more and get stuck in a cycle of downturn that will never end, but on the other hand I can't be sure that suggestions or some actions suggested by others can fully help a gambler to make changes and for this problem I believe that change or recovery will succeed if it is accompanied by a desire based on the gambler's own awareness.

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January 19, 2024, 08:45:10 PM
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When we are in the casino we have to have the following as a basis, have control before entering, but how? As I said before, if we have money to bet in the casino it is only safer, therefore when we are assuming that things can go good or bad then we have to do that, then if we are willing to spend for example about 100usd Well, we can go crazy and lose control if we want but only with those 100usd, no more than that, because that's when the problems start, of course this is my perception of things, maybe I'm wrong, but what kind of things are like that? We must do anything to be able to execute the best way to play, so when we play with the money we are willing to lose, we can not control our emotions or anything, always and when as I said before, we should not spend extra money, If you lose it doesn't matter, we have enjoyed it, if you win it's perfect that's the idea, we should see things for what they are.

What we must always see is that every time we are executing a good play, or a good streak, we must be careful, never leave with all the money we have earned, because it is the worst, at the time when many people risk it. -In many times they lose, but the important thing for this is knowing how to retire, when we retire things can be difficult, sometimes we can be left with the feeling that we would have won more, but it is better to stay with that feeling than to be left without money and let's say later that we had retired on time when we had those profits.

What we must Aways consider is that every time we make a Withdrawal we have to do everything so that we can have the best experience, not risk anything After we win, because if we risk it we have to assume that we can lose everything and more, and that It is what should always be avoided.

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January 20, 2024, 02:05:10 AM
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Without thinking about future doing any kind of work is fully foolish work. If you are not thinking about future then you will face big problems in your future life. Without future plan no one can lead a beautiful life. Because you are westing their economy rickless you dont do savings for your future life. That's the reason thik about future and and do gamble safely.
I agree with you it has often been said that failure to plan, is planning to fail. Without a blueprint, no one can achieve anything, and gambling is not exempted from this universal truth. It is good to make gambling work for you and not become a slave to gambling because of your inability to control your loss.

A lot of people can't boast of anything because they were all lost to gambling. This justifies the necessity for a plan. A gambler who is concerned about the future will not allow gambling addiction to ruin it. Such a person will set a budget and stick to it knowing that not sticking to it means destroying the plan which will affect his prospects.
Talking about planning for the future, when we gamble we should also think about our future so that we don't get too caught up in the world of gambling and don't pursue too much ambition to get big profits. If you have difficulty controlling your thoughts then you will fall into the world of gambling and make you become addiction and it will destroy your future slowly little by little you chase the losses you have experienced so you can't think intelligently.

Yes, if they gamble too much, they will go astray and they will experience destruction. When someone can think realistically, they can definitely plan their future and have boundaries so that they don't become addicted to gambling. They can be responsible and disciplined in obeying the rules they have planned for a long time and most importantly they can control their thoughts so that detrimental things do not affect their planning.

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January 20, 2024, 09:20:24 AM
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When we are in the casino we have to have the following as a basis, have control before entering, but how? As I said before, if we have money to bet in the casino it is only safer, therefore when we are assuming that things can go good or bad then we have to do that, then if we are willing to spend for example about 100usd Well, we can go crazy and lose control if we want but only with those 100usd, no more than that, because that's when the problems start, of course this is my perception of things, maybe I'm wrong, but what kind of things are like that? We must do anything to be able to execute the best way to play, so when we play with the money we are willing to lose, we can not control our emotions or anything, always and when as I said before, we should not spend extra money, If you lose it doesn't matter, we have enjoyed it, if you win it's perfect that's the idea, we should see things for what they are.

What we must always see is that every time we are executing a good play, or a good streak, we must be careful, never leave with all the money we have earned, because it is the worst, at the time when many people risk it. -In many times they lose, but the important thing for this is knowing how to retire, when we retire things can be difficult, sometimes we can be left with the feeling that we would have won more, but it is better to stay with that feeling than to be left without money and let's say later that we had retired on time when we had those profits.

What we must Aways consider is that every time we make a Withdrawal we have to do everything so that we can have the best experience, not risk anything After we win, because if we risk it we have to assume that we can lose everything and more, and that It is what should always be avoided.

Yes, that's right, if we can determine the amount of money we set, we can gamble however we like, play crazy or play well, it depends on each person's perception, because everyone's thinking is different, so there are two possibilities, with 100 USD. That is, they can think of playing crazy with big bets in order to win quickly and the amount is also large, on the other hand they bet with small amounts but they play neatly and gradually because they don't want the 100 USD to disappear in a short time. but what often happens is that if they play well, they might go crazy, because of course they won't last long with their good game because maybe it will be boring, so it's possible that they can also increase the amount of their bet.

I agree with you, we don't have to spend extra money, because the chances are still the same, with the predictable ending being defeat, and there are also people who don't withdraw their winnings because they still want to get a big win, so they don't stop even though you have already won. and that way they dare to take risks but don't consider it well, so that when it's all finished they make another deposit, this is what must be avoided, don't let us make another deposit when the winnings we have obtained are lost again, because the truth is stop.

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January 20, 2024, 09:27:22 AM
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What we must Aways consider is that every time we make a Withdrawal we have to do everything so that we can have the best experience, not risk anything After we win, because if we risk it we have to assume that we can lose everything and more, and that It is what should always be avoided.
It's fine to take risk again after your withdrawal. But to enjoy that gambling experience for the second time around is to make sure that money is already out of your capital and is a part of your profit.

So, whatever happens to that remaining money that you've left as you gamble again isn't going to take serious hit on your bankroll and also with your profit.

But what matters if you take a risk, make sure that you can bring yourself with that and you're not going to regret actions and decisions you've concluded.
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January 20, 2024, 10:57:02 AM
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I'm sure this is what every gambler should pay more attention to, understanding must be prioritized and prioritized because it is not uncommon or even most people are wrong in understanding and responding to what gambling is, especially in terms of winning opportunities so that they are very easy to finally enter the addiction phase unconsciously, and of course I am also sure that if gamblers understand about the concept of gambling then surely they will not dare to act carelessly and do things beyond their abilities because of course the risks in gambling are far greater than they imagine.

As we know that gambling is nothing more than a game of chance that has absolutely no certainty and any guarantee of winning at the end of the session, if you want to win then you have to have good luck but the problem is that everyone will never know when they can get lucky and it is very difficult to get lucky in a row and that is why most gamblers lose much more often than win which will only come occasionally.

Right.
In general, I believe that the whole difficulty of maintaining psychological control over oneself in gambling lies in the fact that it is not clear when gambling ceases to be a game for fun, and when it becomes an addiction, when the player only wants to win (in the last stage of addiction, money is not important to him , he already lives only for the premonition of the Game). You should always understand your mood before the game, during it and after the game.
Players play for money, and if it's not fun, then you shouldn't play!

Perhaps this is the line - when you understand that the casino is no fun.
Then you need to stop playing.

Starting from a wrong understanding that ultimately makes them unable to accept the fact that the final result really loses, and this is the starting point for gamblers to fall into an uncontrollable situation until finally they will usually chase victory with the aim of getting what they have lost and if gamblers have entered a situation like this then obviously gambling is no longer a fun activity but tends to lead to situations that  always make them feel depressed. There is no other way that a gambler can understand his own situation other than awareness and the problem is that it is not easy to achieve awareness if they basically have the wrong understanding  from the start so they are unable to accept the risks that occur.

Maybe they will be able  to understand the mood when the game is just about to start where everything must be fine - fine but when it's halfway through there starts to be a lot of reactions that come out of him whether it's fun or stressful. Gambling with the intention of filling time and getting entertainment is indeed more advisable but not a few gamblers who experience a change in mindset over time  because they see the many things that seem tempting that are there and do not rule out the possibility that gamblers who come for  entertainment alone can end up with addiction when they cannot maintain their level of awareness. I think having and maintaining the right understanding to always be in a state of awareness is key.

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January 20, 2024, 11:26:56 AM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

advice you say? Well sorry to tell you this, but I think advice really doesn't work for gamblers that can't really control their gambling habits, but although this particular feeling of the gambler wanting to continue his playing after hitting a figure that isn't satisfactory is like a common disease among other gamblers and it the person himself that can discipline himself to actually stop this act.

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January 20, 2024, 11:35:34 AM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

If there's someone who cares for them who can make them realize how much time and money that they already consuming from their gambling might help them to cope up and try to restart thier mindsets, I guess this follows the rules which self-will can be back up by those people who really aiming to help and trying to make sure that you are going to be fine when you try to resolve this kind of a situation while playing.

Being too deep into gambling can result to a much bigger problem, you need to re-assess everything once you have this kind of situation, it can develop awareness and good decision making when tough time already beside you, you just need someone to boost your will to process the right way.

But overall I honestly can't say that helping a gambler to change his approach to his gambling activities is an easy thing, this is very difficult to do because an addicted gambler already has a belief that they think is right, I understand that this is a good action to help an addict to get out of his wrong mindset in dealing with gambling, if you advise them too much to change their habits and beliefs in a better and logical direction then I think this will only make everything end in a fight, you will be considered as a person who is too interfering with other people's affairs.

On the other hand, of course I agree with your idea that getting too deep into gambling will only make us suffer more and get stuck in a cycle of downturn that will never end, but on the other hand I can't be sure that suggestions or some actions suggested by others can fully help a gambler to make changes and for this problem I believe that change or recovery will succeed if it is accompanied by a desire based on the gambler's own awareness.

No doubt, as everything should begin with the gambler itself, even how hard you try to help the person without his will to change his direction, nothing will happen about it. I agree with what you mentioned that if you push hard in providing your guidance and concern, you might be called out as interfering with their freedom to do whatever they want and think that they are doing better, a kind of mindset where a gambler thinks that he's good and there's nothing wrong with whatever he's doing and handling his gambling activities.

It's hard and also a complicated situation indeed, as even how concerned you are, there's always a negative impression that may take in the side of that person that you are trying to help.

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January 20, 2024, 11:40:03 AM
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advice you say? Well sorry to tell you this, but I think advice really doesn't work for gamblers that can't really control their gambling habits, but although this particular feeling of the gambler wanting to continue his playing after hitting a figure that isn't satisfactory is like a common disease among other gamblers and it the person himself that can discipline himself to actually stop this act.

The gamble we play is pure risk, and that feeling of playing continuously when you are on a winning strike is common among gamblers. But I believe those who aren't addicted gamblers, learnt how to say no to that thought after a while. When you are a newbie to gambling, there is a high tendency that you will fall for this trick after after a while you know when to quit. Discipline is what makes us different from addicted gamblers, even in other life situations.

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January 20, 2024, 01:14:08 PM
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~snip~
If there's someone who cares for them who can make them realize how much time and money that they already consuming from their gambling might help them to cope up and try to restart thier mindsets, I guess this follows the rules which self-will can be back up by those people who really aiming to help and trying to make sure that you are going to be fine when you try to resolve this kind of a situation while playing.

Being too deep into gambling can result to a much bigger problem, you need to re-assess everything once you have this kind of situation, it can develop awareness and good decision making when tough time already beside you, you just need someone to boost your will to process the right way.
Someone who cares about them will try to give advice to the gambling addict and make him realize that what he is doing is wrong. Whatever the method, someone will try their best to make the addict realize that he is addicted to gambling and needs help immediately. If not, the gambling addict will get deeper into gambling and his gambling addiction will also get deeper. This will be more difficult to cure because the gambling addict will not want to get help from other people. Therefore, before it is too late, there must be someone who wants to help the gambling addict.

So having awareness while gambling is necessary to keep us from gambling excessively and we also won't experience serious problems. And don't get too deep into gambling if you don't want to experience gambling addiction problems because gambling too often can cause you to experience gambling addiction. This is what every gambler must avoid so that they can realize that they really have to limit their gambling.

~snip~
advice you say? Well sorry to tell you this, but I think advice really doesn't work for gamblers that can't really control their gambling habits, but although this particular feeling of the gambler wanting to continue his playing after hitting a figure that isn't satisfactory is like a common disease among other gamblers and it the person himself that can discipline himself to actually stop this act.
There's nothing wrong with continuing to give suggestions to make him aware because, after all, if we care about him, we have to use various methods that might make him aware. We don't know which method will bring him to his senses. That's why we can use many methods, and later, there will be a time when the addict or gambler will think about what has happened to him. Yes, this is indeed a common disease faced by gamblers, and the people around them can also start to see and pay attention and advise them to reduce their gambling activities.

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January 20, 2024, 04:41:25 PM
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If there's someone who cares for them who can make them realize how much time and money that they already consuming from their gambling might help them to cope up and try to restart thier mindsets, I guess this follows the rules which self-will can be back up by those people who really aiming to help and trying to make sure that you are going to be fine when you try to resolve this kind of a situation while playing.

Being too deep into gambling can result to a much bigger problem, you need to re-assess everything once you have this kind of situation, it can develop awareness and good decision making when tough time already beside you, you just need someone to boost your will to process the right way.

But overall I honestly can't say that helping a gambler to change his approach to his gambling activities is an easy thing, this is very difficult to do because an addicted gambler already has a belief that they think is right, I understand that this is a good action to help an addict to get out of his wrong mindset in dealing with gambling, if you advise them too much to change their habits and beliefs in a better and logical direction then I think this will only make everything end in a fight, you will be considered as a person who is too interfering with other people's affairs.

On the other hand, of course I agree with your idea that getting too deep into gambling will only make us suffer more and get stuck in a cycle of downturn that will never end, but on the other hand I can't be sure that suggestions or some actions suggested by others can fully help a gambler to make changes and for this problem I believe that change or recovery will succeed if it is accompanied by a desire based on the gambler's own awareness.

No doubt, as everything should begin with the gambler itself, even how hard you try to help the person without his will to change his direction, nothing will happen about it. I agree with what you mentioned that if you push hard in providing your guidance and concern, you might be called out as interfering with their freedom to do whatever they want and think that they are doing better, a kind of mindset where a gambler thinks that he's good and there's nothing wrong with whatever he's doing and handling his gambling activities.

It's hard and also a complicated situation indeed, as even how concerned you are, there's always a negative impression that may take in the side of that person that you are trying to help.

Yes, of course, and this is also one of the reasons why it is very difficult to cure gamblers from addiction. If people say that they have difficulty curing someone who is addicted, whether it is someone else or one of their friends, then that means it is a gambling addict who wants to they cure are people  who absolutely do not want to stop their gambling activities, as I said before that basically this is a good action and leads to much better changes but in terms of achieving success it will not be as easy as turning the palm of your hand.

And also yes, I think it is a logical idea that if we push too hard on advice or assistance like this, even though it leads to good things, it is possible that in the end the gambling addict will feel uncomfortable and they will say that we are interfering too much with their freedom. they are choices, and this means that sometimes even though we care too much about other people there are still some people who don't want to accept help from other people because as I said, gambling addicts are those who have the wrong mindset in gambling but they think that what they doing it is not wrong, all this happens because they  have not been able to reach the level of awareness in their common sense. Maybe we  can only wait for their awareness to emerge, usually it will appear if they have experienced adversity that really makes them feel traumatized.

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January 20, 2024, 05:05:20 PM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

advice you say? Well sorry to tell you this, but I think advice really doesn't work for gamblers that can't really control their gambling habits, but although this particular feeling of the gambler wanting to continue his playing after hitting a figure that isn't satisfactory is like a common disease among other gamblers and it the person himself that can discipline himself to actually stop this act.
Advice is one of the main thing why some other people get mad in each other because of that advice cause when you give some friendly advice to your friend who are addicted in gambling then there's a chance that it will become a trouble cause if those addict are too high then the man who gives some advice to him started angry and miss understand will become trouble.
So it's hard to give some advice in a hot tempered person or gambling .
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January 20, 2024, 07:07:26 PM
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When we are in the casino we have to have the following as a basis, have control before entering, but how? As I said before, if we have money to bet in the casino it is only safer, therefore when we are assuming that things can go good or bad then we have to do that, then if we are willing to spend for example about 100usd Well, we can go crazy and lose control if we want but only with those 100usd, no more than that, because that's when the problems start, of course this is my perception of things, maybe I'm wrong, but what kind of things are like that? We must do anything to be able to execute the best way to play, so when we play with the money we are willing to lose, we can not control our emotions or anything, always and when as I said before, we should not spend extra money, If you lose it doesn't matter, we have enjoyed it, if you win it's perfect that's the idea, we should see things for what they are.

What we must always see is that every time we are executing a good play, or a good streak, we must be careful, never leave with all the money we have earned, because it is the worst, at the time when many people risk it. -In many times they lose, but the important thing for this is knowing how to retire, when we retire things can be difficult, sometimes we can be left with the feeling that we would have won more, but it is better to stay with that feeling than to be left without money and let's say later that we had retired on time when we had those profits.

What we must Aways consider is that every time we make a Withdrawal we have to do everything so that we can have the best experience, not risk anything After we win, because if we risk it we have to assume that we can lose everything and more, and that It is what should always be avoided.

Yes, that's right, if we can determine the amount of money we set, we can gamble however we like, play crazy or play well, it depends on each person's perception, because everyone's thinking is different, so there are two possibilities, with 100 USD. That is, they can think of playing crazy with big bets in order to win quickly and the amount is also large, on the other hand they bet with small amounts but they play neatly and gradually because they don't want the 100 USD to disappear in a short time. but what often happens is that if they play well, they might go crazy, because of course they won't last long with their good game because maybe it will be boring, so it's possible that they can also increase the amount of their bet.

I agree with you, we don't have to spend extra money, because the chances are still the same, with the predictable ending being defeat, and there are also people who don't withdraw their winnings because they still want to get a big win, so they don't stop even though you have already won. and that way they dare to take risks but don't consider it well, so that when it's all finished they make another deposit, this is what must be avoided, don't let us make another deposit when the winnings we have obtained are lost again, because the truth is stop.
Yes, it is because having a fixed amount to win we can afford to play as we want, that is, we still want to play little by little so that the bets last longer and the time in the game lasts longer, well, well, otherwise no, It is not the same as us doing things like this. because basically when we are generating many ways of seeing things we can Intuit that always in each of the parts of the games, we can play to win, in fact we always play to win more, because in the casino what matters is that we let's maintain it with money, without money there is no juice, there is no party, there is nothing, so since money is the most important thing in a casino, we have to find our best strategy to make it perform, there are some who say that they do not believe in strategy of the game, there are others who say yes, I personally do believe that strategy can be Applied to win and in fact when I play I know many according to the type of game, for example in the games , except that in this day and age it is very difficult to go for the martingale, which I try to avoid at all costs.

In this order of ideas, every time we are doing something to innovate our way of playing, many aspects can emerge, among them money, and the best play of all, the one I always use, is to put my money on lose, only with the exception that when you lose, you don't have to insist anymore, you have to accept the loss and keep going, maybe in another game session if it's possible that you have better luck, but it all depends on the things you can do, However, when we are generating ways to have better behavior and performance in the game, we have to learn quickly from the losses, so as not to make the same mistakes that made us lose in a moment, that is what I always say, learn and correct, to then earn or have the possibility of earning money.

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January 20, 2024, 07:13:24 PM
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        -   If you really see that your capital money is growing in gambling because you know and are sure that there will be income from it, you will not stop it. It is true what you said: there is no reason for you to stop if it is producing profit for you.

Then, most of all, you are happy with what you are doing because it helps you. But of course, if you are always losing, you should stop if necessary as a gambler.
Someone who sees an opportunity to win will try to continue gambling. They no longer think about losing but instead think about how they can win. This requires awareness to see what they have done from gambling and how much money they have used so that they can decide to reduce their gambling activities or continue gambling but with stricter restrictions. But if there is someone who can get close to them and tell them that they are too deep in gambling, the gambler may be able to realize that they are too deep in gambling and need to reduce their gambling activities so that they will not lose any more money. People around them can see that they are gambling excessively, so they are the ones who should provide advice to reduce their gambling activities.

advice you say? Well sorry to tell you this, but I think advice really doesn't work for gamblers that can't really control their gambling habits, but although this particular feeling of the gambler wanting to continue his playing after hitting a figure that isn't satisfactory is like a common disease among other gamblers and it the person himself that can discipline himself to actually stop this act.
Advice is one of the main thing why some other people get mad in each other because of that advice cause when you give some friendly advice to your friend who are addicted in gambling then there's a chance that it will become a trouble cause if those addict are too high then the man who gives some advice to him started angry and miss understand will become trouble.
So it's hard to give some advice in a hot tempered person or gambling .
This is the main reason on why i dont really like on giving out some advises not only into those people who are addicted to gambling but also into those people who are really that facing up some life challenges or problems that they do have or whatever the things that they are dealing off with. I dont like that those kind of piece of advises would really be turning out to be a complete
arguments or conflicts on which its true that there are people who are really that short tempered or something that really having that high reactions on which it would be causing up some trouble.
Just let them be on the things that they are doing, they are already old enough to know on whats wrong and whats bad on which it would really be that impossible that you wont
really be able those kind of realizations.
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