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May 13, 2023, 11:23:35 AM
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The society keep introducing new and better ways of living. Each passing day new tools are been innovated to meet the activities of human existence, this in return has escalated the wants of man. Some of the basic needs has become wants because of the luxury that comes with it, let's take for example house that is meant to be the most affordable basic need of humans is getting even more expensive as new and modern patterns is becoming rampant same thing goes to clothing because the fashion industry are also making their designs look more colourful thereby going for more expensive materials which in turn affects the cost of production and increase in price for the final consumers.

Hunger on the other hand has also increased because the cost of meeting the basic needs of human existence requires extra hustle and more innovative calculations. As humans try to strike balance between what the need and what the wants the proportion to which comes first is getting even more confusing. Feeding now has become another course on its own because even the working class are having issues striking this balance. Making the right decision on which comes first can be a way to reduce the pressure that comes with living in the 21st century era.
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May 13, 2023, 01:31:36 PM
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Hunger on the other hand has also increased...

That's BS and I am not going to stop to comment on the conclusions you draw, the premise being false.

Hunger has been drastically reduced around the world. If you are going to defend the contrary, you should explain why when the posh guy who never worked in his life (Marx) was born the population of the earth was around one billion people and today it is just short of eight billion. Shortly before Marx was born, the visionary Malthus also advocated a food catastrophe under the argument that humans were growing in geometric progression while food production was growing in arithmetic progression.

Another thing you could explain is why in countries where malnutrition abounded a few decades ago, now there is an obesity problem. Or why hunger and its descriptions were a constant in literature until not many decades ago and have now disappeared.

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Hunger has been drastically reduced around the world. If you are going to defend the contrary, you should explain why when the posh guy who never worked in his life (Marx) was born the population of the earth was around one billion people and today it is just short of eight billion. Shortly before Marx was born, the visionary Malthus also advocated a food catastrophe under the argument that humans were growing in geometric progression while food production was growing in arithmetic progression.
We shouldn't quote by imaginations or assumptions, take a look at this. If you claim hunger has been drastically reduced what happens to countries where workers earn below their daily expenses, How about countries where their currency have little or no value. Currently agriculture is not promoted has it was in the past, many are turning into soft works except for countries where mechanised agriculture is rampant. Hunger is still a major concern around the world.
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May 13, 2023, 05:30:21 PM
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The unending wants is just commercialism and capitalism, everything today has been
upgraded and will continue to be upgraded until it is replaced, thats the way it is, everyone
is pressured into thinking they "need" more stuff when in reality all humans basically need is
food and shelter.

Food and shelter as a basic and only need is no longer a reality, transport, money and
communication have to me considered too.

Unfortunately there are hunger problems in the world and unfortunately they are getting
worse as climate changes and there is unrest and war in any particular country.

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May 13, 2023, 10:49:47 PM
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The world is evolving, therefore everything will continue to be, and this will continue until the world ceases to exist. Changes in the world have had a significant impact, and as a result, some people just do not want to be here again, but others always find a way to fit in and be among others.

What baffles me the most is that most people always find a way to balance everything in the midst of all these issues that can impair their ability to live a decent existence. I believe that everything happens for a purpose, and that the end result always favors the majority who were passionate about it.

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May 14, 2023, 03:13:21 PM
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Thanks to inflation. And you're right about these homes that have been affordable before but are no longer today. I don't understand why this has to be on that page when it was affordable before. Maybe this is all about the capitalists dictating the market price for the homes and even if you want it but don't want to buy it anymore because it's totally expensive and even if you take loans, you don't want to get that burden for a very long time if you've got some other things that you're planning. I don't want to say it but it seems that these homes for sale are already on their ceiling and you know what's next to it...

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May 15, 2023, 03:52:45 AM
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We shouldn't quote by imaginations or assumptions,

No imaginations. Facts.


You mean those countries were better in the past? What about countries like China or Mexico, that do not appear there, where people used to die of famine and today they have an obesity problem?

If you claim hunger has been drastically reduced what happens to countries where workers earn below their daily expenses, How about countries where their currency have little or no value.

That, in general, they are better off than in the past, although there are always exceptions.

Currently agriculture is not promoted has it was in the past, many are turning into soft works except for countries where mechanised agriculture is rampant. .

What is there to promote in agriculture when it is highly mechanized? In the past it took dozens of men to produce less than what can be achieved today by a single person using machines.

Maybe this is all about the capitalists dictating the market price for the homes...

You have no idea. Capitalism does not dictate the price of anything. If there is real capitalism prices are set by a balance of supply and demand. Those who are in the business of dictating prices are those of the ideology you like, who are the ones who have caused the most millions of deaths by starvation in the world:

Soviet famine of 1930–1933

Great Chinese Famine

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We shouldn't quote by imaginations or assumptions, take a look at this. If you claim hunger has been drastically reduced what happens to countries where workers earn below their daily expenses, How about countries where their currency have little or no value. Currently agriculture is not promoted has it was in the past, many are turning into soft works except for countries where mechanised agriculture is rampant. Hunger is still a major concern around the world.
in this aspect I will save it because of inflation that I happened to that particular country so there is a reduction of Hunger in a society it depends on the country that you are leaving all the place you are staying that is one country which average person always take three square meals a day, so you cannot generate it or put it across all the nation

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May 16, 2023, 09:31:27 PM
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The society keep introducing new and better ways of living. Each passing day new tools are been innovated to meet the activities of human existence, this in return has escalated the wants of man. Some of the basic needs has become wants because of the luxury that comes with it, let's take for example house that is meant to be the most affordable basic need of humans is getting even more expensive as new and modern patterns is becoming rampant same thing goes to clothing because the fashion industry are also making their designs look more colourful thereby going for more expensive materials which in turn affects the cost of production and increase in price for the final consumers.

Hunger on the other hand has also increased because the cost of meeting the basic needs of human existence requires extra hustle and more innovative calculations. As humans try to strike balance between what the need and what the wants the proportion to which comes first is getting even more confusing. Feeding now has become another course on its own because even the working class are having issues striking this balance. Making the right decision on which comes first can be a way to reduce the pressure that comes with living in the 21st century era.

I think that the concept of hunger and unending wants apply mainly in underdeveloped and developing countries. I doubt that the developed countries have this problem, because they have improved mechanized agricultural system, advanced technology to make life more meaningful for their citizens. Their GDP is higher than the underdeveloped countries, thereby making people that are living in the developed countries to be living a more comfortable lifestyle, because their economy is well planned. Unlike the underdeveloped countries were bad governance has made basic needs to became luxury. Ordinary citizens finds it difficult to afford basic needs.

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May 16, 2023, 11:26:37 PM
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There is always going to be an explosion about some things to our existence. Either it's nature trying to balance off things or its induced by humans.
We live in an imperfect world, trying to do things in a perfect way. Having things done perfectly is what we can't get and as such, we have certain adversities to contend with.
Food shortage as a part of our over population, high cost of living as a part of our advancement.

No matter what it is, there are those who find things easy and they make hard choices for those. The world isn't out here to better us but, we better ourselves in the world.

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May 16, 2023, 11:47:42 PM
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There is always going to be an explosion about some things to our existence. Either it's nature trying to balance off things or its induced by humans.
We live in an imperfect world, trying to do things in a perfect way. Having things done perfectly is what we can't get and as such, we have certain adversities to contend with.
Food shortage as a part of our over population, high cost of living as a part of our advancement.

No matter what it is, there are those who find things easy and they make hard choices for those. The world isn't out here to better us but, we better ourselves in the world.

The world is a hard place and a huge jungle with many bad people, the imperfection is almost infinite, but that should not stop us from trying to make things better.

That is why there are people who address Food shortages and the price of shelter in one way or another, through science.

Lately, I have noticed that Nihilism has become a widespread way of thinking, whether people is aware of it or not, and it is concerning, how life becomes darker in the eyes of so many people.

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May 24, 2023, 09:42:20 AM
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The unending wants is just commercialism and capitalism, everything today has been
upgraded and will continue to be upgraded until it is replaced, thats the way it is, everyone
is pressured into thinking they "need" more stuff when in reality all humans basically need is
food and shelter.

Food and shelter as a basic and only need is no longer a reality, transport, money and
communication have to me considered too.

Unfortunately there are hunger problems in the world and unfortunately they are getting
worse as climate changes and there is unrest and war in any particular country.
It is getting worse because the price keeps on getting higher and some of us are earning the same so it is hard to keep on with it.
Unending wants or desire could also be true sometimes when we achieve what we want there is a feeling of satisfaction and after that there would be nothing more so we would set another goal, let's face it that is how it really is or at least for most of us.
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May 24, 2023, 11:36:07 AM
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We can put a pause on our wants but the needs is what we cannot stop or put a pause to because there are most valuable primary needs we have in life which are food, clothes and shelter, every other things falls under wants, we can decide to meet up with some while we may choose to postpone some for any reason, so calling hunger a want is abnormal and bor good enough, food is one of our primary needs, if the primary needs were meant then more than half of a man's problem has been solved completely, hunger  enraged nothing but anger.
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What most people lack nowadays is contentment and they don't seem to know what real happiness is. Real happiness is when you are content and secure, you cannot ask for more than that because after that is excess and extravagance. People wanted honor so much that even their own selves are not enough to convince them that was enough. They wanted more precious things that's why the Phone companies keep making new products every year because they know their customers won't cease to upgrade their items. If they only spend their wealth to feed the poor and help them recover, there will be fewer problems in the world but at the end of the day, they choose to make it hard for themselves by continue chasing the trend.

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Making the right decision on which comes first can be a way to reduce the pressure that comes with living in the 21st century era.
The 21st century has brought new things that make people to not be easily content with satisfying their needs alone, individuals now find themselves under the pressure to satisfy their wants too. When people where leaving quiet lives, without social media to make you feel like you are not doing enough, they focused more on their basic needs, and personal progress. Social media has made things more confusing, we have first been exposed to too many things somebody can want and it has also made satisfying basic needs not look enough.

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The problem is that we live in a competitive world where people wants to live their lives like celebrities. You should be able to plan your live based on your income or your cash in flow. If you are an average earner look for a house that will suit your income, not that you are an average earner and you want to live in a house that is meant for rich people.

As for clothing we have different grade of cloth which can be avoidable by any class of people either the poor,average or rich. Feeding depends on the understanding of the individual feeding habit,a poor man should eat a balanced diet that he can afford,so that he don't get indebted because of his glutton. Inflation has added so much to the hardship in the world,which one must plan wisely to survive.

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Society keeps inventing new and expensive ways to meet basic needs, making the decision between needs and wants even more confusing in this 21st-century era of abundance.

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The manner in which technology and society are evolving, and how our needs and desires are being impacted by this, is certainly something to consider. And, with the stress to keep up with the most recent styles, it can be difficult to strike the proper equilibrium, but establishing and adhering to a budget can help you graph out how much money you have to spare to spend, and then you can decide how to distribute that money to the things that are most important to you, preventing you from making unplanned expenditures or going into debt. It also gives you the feeling of control over your own finances, which can be extremely motivating.

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