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May 16, 2023, 08:25:42 PM
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They obviously lack knowledge and research abilities, and talking sense to such people is near impossible since no matter how much you chant about something, they will still do what they want at the end and all that you say and do to make them understand a point is simply a waste of your own time and efforts, so it's better to leave such people alone and let them experience it themselves.

When Bitcoin was at $500 per unit, people used to think and say the same thing that they are late and they won't make any gains anymore, the same was the case when it reached $3k and then $10k, so there will basically always be such people out there, let them be.
No matter how we explain them, these people will still claim the opposite and couldn't agree with what we tell them. Because what is really in their mind is full of negativity and doubts, we can't influence their minds unless they will change it.
Perhaps, proper education could really help these people to understand how this works but I say that it was a big challenge on their mind on how to change them. But for me, I should not render time with this kind of people who are not willing to change and take advice from me.
Instead of focusing on thinking about things like that and preparing a lot of defenses I don't think it will solve anything and instead I think it will add more to the existing debate.
There is no middle point where pros and cons argue because indeed both of them definitely want to beat with the arguments they have.
Personally, in this condition, it's better to get out and focus on what I'm doing because regardless of anything, it's better for me than having to say a lot of words because in the end, things like that won't be heard.

They have a focus on not wanting to be in bitcoin and the assumption by saying it's late is just a classic excuse so why bother about something like that because it's the best thing for them but on the other hand we as people who do have different thoughts then just stick to the initial goal us because it is also the best choice for us.

Basically things like that about the pros and cons will definitely continue to exist depending on you to react to it. If indeed we are challenged to debate then that is also good because things like that are worth debating but for myself, I prefer to let it go because it won't it also has its effect on me and I don't need to get tired of dealing with people like that.

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May 16, 2023, 09:08:18 PM
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to think one is late to btc is to think btc is a ponzi scheme. if one really believes in utility of btc one can never be late. never.
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May 16, 2023, 10:19:14 PM
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It's easy to say it's over or too late when the funds are already looking unaffordable but, that doesn't mean
it's toolate. You are the ones who would
really be the one will really make out decisions which you would see whether it would really be that being positive on near future or not. It might be risky to think but when you're already on the process, you will be thanking yourself for having the courage despite of the feeling of having a cold feet because of the market's situation now. The people who say prices are high at this time also would never have stepped in at ATH.

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May 16, 2023, 10:21:00 PM
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For the long term, yes. I've been obtaining some altcoins to build up profits for my bitcoin investment. Since its multiplier is considerably better than bitcoin, it's not terrible to dabble with some alternative currencies. That's what I do. Even if someone were to advise me to avoid alts, I couldn't be convinced to concentrate just on bitcoin as I am aware of how much easier it is to make gains on alts than on bitcoin. I'm not a whale, therefore I'll merely find a means to increase my meager funds before concentrating on an expensive bitcoin.
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May 16, 2023, 11:40:09 PM
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They obviously lack knowledge and research abilities, and talking sense to such people is near impossible since no matter how much you chant about something, they will still do what they want at the end and all that you say and do to make them understand a point is simply a waste of your own time and efforts, so it's better to leave such people alone and let them experience it themselves.

When Bitcoin was at $500 per unit, people used to think and say the same thing that they are late and they won't make any gains anymore, the same was the case when it reached $3k and then $10k, so there will basically always be such people out there, let them be.
No matter how we explain them, these people will still claim the opposite and couldn't agree with what we tell them. Because what is really in their mind is full of negativity and doubts, we can't influence their minds unless they will change it.
Perhaps, proper education could really help these people to understand how this works but I say that it was a big challenge on their mind on how to change them. But for me, I should not render time with this kind of people who are not willing to change and take advice from me.
Instead of focusing on thinking about things like that and preparing a lot of defenses I don't think it will solve anything and instead I think it will add more to the existing debate.
There is no middle point where pros and cons argue because indeed both of them definitely want to beat with the arguments they have.
Personally, in this condition, it's better to get out and focus on what I'm doing because regardless of anything, it's better for me than having to say a lot of words because in the end, things like that won't be heard.

They have a focus on not wanting to be in bitcoin and the assumption by saying it's late is just a classic excuse so why bother about something like that because it's the best thing for them but on the other hand we as people who do have different thoughts then just stick to the initial goal us because it is also the best choice for us.

Basically things like that about the pros and cons will definitely continue to exist depending on you to react to it. If indeed we are challenged to debate then that is also good because things like that are worth debating but for myself, I prefer to let it go because it won't it also has its effect on me and I don't need to get tired of dealing with people like that.
Not really that bad on making yourself aware on whats happening around specially with those never ending debate about the pros and cons of Bitcoin or being that early or being that late because no matter which

angle you would really be looking, there's always those words or sayings on which you could heard around and if you are that someone who do really completely supporting it then it couldn't really be avoid to make out some countering of those opinions and words came from others. This is why it would be molding up that never ending discussion and debates in between two things. Its true that if you dont like to find yourself
been boggled up with these things then it would be better that you should really be just simply ignoring and rejecting on whatever things that you are believing into.

Very early? Very late? Doesnt matter because you would really be basically be minding on what are the things that you do plan from the very start. It is really just been distracted by some other factors along the way.
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May 17, 2023, 02:02:03 AM
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They obviously lack knowledge and research abilities, and talking sense to such people is near impossible since no matter how much you chant about something, they will still do what they want at the end and all that you say and do to make them understand a point is simply a waste of your own time and efforts, so it's better to leave such people alone and let them experience it themselves.

When Bitcoin was at $500 per unit, people used to think and say the same thing that they are late and they won't make any gains anymore, the same was the case when it reached $3k and then $10k, so there will basically always be such people out there, let them be.
No matter how we explain them, these people will still claim the opposite and couldn't agree with what we tell them. Because what is really in their mind is full of negativity and doubts, we can't influence their minds unless they will change it.
Perhaps, proper education could really help these people to understand how this works but I say that it was a big challenge on their mind on how to change them. But for me, I should not render time with this kind of people who are not willing to change and take advice from me.
Instead of focusing on thinking about things like that and preparing a lot of defenses I don't think it will solve anything and instead I think it will add more to the existing debate.
There is no middle point where pros and cons argue because indeed both of them definitely want to beat with the arguments they have.
Personally, in this condition, it's better to get out and focus on what I'm doing because regardless of anything, it's better for me than having to say a lot of words because in the end, things like that won't be heard.

They have a focus on not wanting to be in bitcoin and the assumption by saying it's late is just a classic excuse so why bother about something like that because it's the best thing for them but on the other hand we as people who do have different thoughts then just stick to the initial goal us because it is also the best choice for us.

Basically things like that about the pros and cons will definitely continue to exist depending on you to react to it. If indeed we are challenged to debate then that is also good because things like that are worth debating but for myself, I prefer to let it go because it won't it also has its effect on me and I don't need to get tired of dealing with people like that.
to debate about bitcoin with people who do not agree, I think it will only be a waste of energy, and for me I prefer to be silent and leave the conversation about bitcoin, because no matter how good we give understanding it will not be accepted either. the only way is by proving that with time they will feel sorry for what they think, and we can smile without having to defend ourselves at first. it happened when bitcoin soared in 2017, finally people like that were jealous and approached us to be taught about bitcoin, because they saw our success

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May 17, 2023, 06:24:11 AM
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Accordingly, it is true that bitcoin supply is nearly 21,000,000 which makes it a scarce commodity to the teaming population of over six billion in the world. Out of this total number in population just 99.99% of them are yet to get the awarenes and possibly adopt the bitcoin in their various localities.  Just reason a situation like this at this stage you are holding at this price and when the whole world decides to go the bitcoin way meaning that any little fractions of bitcoin would mean a lot compared to now. This should tell you clear that we are still in he early stage and as such still early adopters of bitcoin.

Lastly, bitcoin price is currently low compared to the last all time high last year. At this price, one with clear vision about bitcoin could say this price to be be cheap as it is now compared to the price it was previously. Any one who has seen the clear vision of global adoption and plans of long term holding should know that at this price, one can get a good volume while holding it for the long awaited bull run and possibly massive adoption. Then, you would see the beauty and value of what you have been holding for such a long term.
Well, I do agree that we are still early in Bitcoin adoption and there is still a long way for it to go, but I don't agree that only 0.01% of the world's population knows or uses Bitcoin, the numbers are obviously way more than we are estimating here knowing it has been around for more than a decade now and a lot of people already know it and use it as well.

I would say that we might have conquered about 9 to 10% of the world's population by now in terms of adoption, if not that high then 5% is obviously not less as it can clearly be seen that a lot of people already know and use Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in the world.

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May 17, 2023, 10:39:17 AM
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to think one is late to btc is to think btc is a ponzi scheme. if one really believes in utility of btc one can never be late. never.


I think people who know the utility of Bitcoin, they must consider whether it is their entry time or not while investing. Bitcoin was launched in 2009 and since then those who have invested in Bitcoin in the initial period have received huge returns. In 2021, Bitcoin touched the highest price of $67k. In 2023 Bitcoin again touched its bottom $15500. The current price is trading at $27k.

The point of all of the above is to be very careful about where you are entering when investing in Bitcoin. Not every cost can be credited to the early stage. Whether you are making an investment or entry between the opening prices or the prices have gone too high. I think the price hasn't gone up that much yet and you can say that Bitcoin is still close to its early stage here but if the price goes above $100k then you can't put it in the early stage.

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May 17, 2023, 03:10:13 PM
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Instead of focusing on thinking about things like that and preparing a lot of defenses I don't think it will solve anything and instead I think it will add more to the existing debate.
There is no middle point where pros and cons argue because indeed both of them definitely want to beat with the arguments they have.
Personally, in this condition, it's better to get out and focus on what I'm doing because regardless of anything, it's better for me than having to say a lot of words because in the end, things like that won't be heard.

They have a focus on not wanting to be in bitcoin and the assumption by saying it's late is just a classic excuse so why bother about something like that because it's the best thing for them but on the other hand we as people who do have different thoughts then just stick to the initial goal us because it is also the best choice for us.

Basically things like that about the pros and cons will definitely continue to exist depending on you to react to it. If indeed we are challenged to debate then that is also good because things like that are worth debating but for myself, I prefer to let it go because it won't it also has its effect on me and I don't need to get tired of dealing with people like that.
Not really that bad on making yourself aware on whats happening around specially with those never ending debate about the pros and cons of Bitcoin or being that early or being that late because no matter which

angle you would really be looking, there's always those words or sayings on which you could heard around and if you are that someone who do really completely supporting it then it couldn't really be avoid to make out some countering of those opinions and words came from others. This is why it would be molding up that never ending discussion and debates in between two things. Its true that if you dont like to find yourself
been boggled up with these things then it would be better that you should really be just simply ignoring and rejecting on whatever things that you are believing into.

Very early? Very late? Doesnt matter because you would really be basically be minding on what are the things that you do plan from the very start. It is really just been distracted by some other factors along the way.
Because it's just a big waste of energy so I prefer to keep going regardless of whether it's early or late at this time I will not be too concerned about things like this for myself because as long as I am confident in the current condition, I will still do it considering that things like this are dependent on our own confidence actually.
If we really believe in bitcoin and are currently still in the adaptation stage then indeed this can still be said to be the beginning and I do that by buying again and again with the DCA that I do.
As for those who say it's too late it's also their right with the arguments they have and I don't really care about that.

Instead of focusing on thinking about things like that and preparing a lot of defenses I don't think it will solve anything and instead I think it will add more to the existing debate.
There is no middle point where pros and cons argue because indeed both of them definitely want to beat with the arguments they have.
Personally, in this condition, it's better to get out and focus on what I'm doing because regardless of anything, it's better for me than having to say a lot of words because in the end, things like that won't be heard.

They have a focus on not wanting to be in bitcoin and the assumption by saying it's late is just a classic excuse so why bother about something like that because it's the best thing for them but on the other hand we as people who do have different thoughts then just stick to the initial goal us because it is also the best choice for us.

Basically things like that about the pros and cons will definitely continue to exist depending on you to react to it. If indeed we are challenged to debate then that is also good because things like that are worth debating but for myself, I prefer to let it go because it won't it also has its effect on me and I don't need to get tired of dealing with people like that.
to debate about bitcoin with people who do not agree, I think it will only be a waste of energy, and for me I prefer to be silent and leave the conversation about bitcoin, because no matter how good we give understanding it will not be accepted either. the only way is by proving that with time they will feel sorry for what they think, and we can smile without having to defend ourselves at first. it happened when bitcoin soared in 2017, finally people like that were jealous and approached us to be taught about bitcoin, because they saw our success
As I said, in this condition we have arguments that we believe in and those who are skeptical also have arguments that they believe in as well and when there is a group that agrees with bitcoin and a group that does not agree with bitcoin having a debate like that there will be no middle point in any case because it is not a matter to the neutral because they have their own views.
It's good that we try to debate it if we have more energy and I appreciate that but I'm too busy with such things so it's better for me to avoid it than to go with the flow to a debate that will never end.

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May 17, 2023, 03:21:19 PM
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For the long term, yes. I've been obtaining some altcoins to build up profits for my bitcoin investment. Since its multiplier is considerably better than bitcoin, it's not terrible to dabble with some alternative currencies. That's what I do. Even if someone were to advise me to avoid alts, I couldn't be convinced to concentrate just on bitcoin as I am aware of how much easier it is to make gains on alts than on bitcoin. I'm not a whale, therefore I'll merely find a means to increase my meager funds before concentrating on an expensive bitcoin.

Well its not bad to double your capital  through altcoins and I can presume that the advises that are given is to clear you on the dangers that are involved when investing on altcoins, well I guess some altcoins are good when it comes to how fast they pump up but the whole issue is finding the right alt because the same way these altcoins pump thats the same way they dump back and if you are not careful you could lose a lot especially when you have put in a lot to gather profits you can use in buying bitcoin but I would advice you to stay with BTC and you can use DCA strategy to build up some momentum in your capital investment.

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I understood it at the begining of my way
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The problem is people tend to compare how things were before and how things are now. Instead of them to think about what will be in the future. People who keep feeling they're too late will always keep missing out on bigger opportunities.
We have to try and see the bigger picture in this. Yes, Bitcoin is relatively poor now when compared to where it was but we should also remember that it's better than where it was too.

We cannot really blame them because we can't also deny that we haven't thought of the same thing when we're still at our earliest stage. I'd say that it's somehow natural to look back on how were the things before and comparing it now as sometimes, that is all we needed at the least so that we can remember what was our reason why we take the path that we're walking right now. Yes, it's true that we have missed a lot of important opportunities but that does not mean that we cannot have it again in the future.
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For the long term, yes. I've been obtaining some altcoins to build up profits for my bitcoin investment. Since its multiplier is considerably better than bitcoin, it's not terrible to dabble with some alternative currencies. That's what I do. Even if someone were to advise me to avoid alts, I couldn't be convinced to concentrate just on bitcoin as I am aware of how much easier it is to make gains on alts than on bitcoin. I'm not a whale, therefore I'll merely find a means to increase my meager funds before concentrating on an expensive bitcoin.


In Bitcoin, you don't need to invest $20k at once; you can gradually accumulate your bitcoin, depending on how much you are earning and how much you are willing to invest. Even if you decide to invest $20 or less in Bitcoin every month, in two or three years, you will have a lot of Bitcoin in your portfolio and you would make profit from it (Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme). There are a lot of scam projects; some will only turn out to be shitcoins in the long run, while some might also do well to an extent, but so long as you know the risk you are taking by involving yourself with altcoins, good luck with that. Although some people may have made some profit with altcoins, it's referred to as gambling because you are not very sure if it's a project that was only launched to steal the money invested by the public. Some project may not meet their target, and from there, they will just run from their responsibility.
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For the long term, yes. I've been obtaining some altcoins to build up profits for my bitcoin investment. Since its multiplier is considerably better than bitcoin, it's not terrible to dabble with some alternative currencies. That's what I do. Even if someone were to advise me to avoid alts, I couldn't be convinced to concentrate just on bitcoin as I am aware of how much easier it is to make gains on alts than on bitcoin. I'm not a whale, therefore I'll merely find a means to increase my meager funds before concentrating on an expensive bitcoin.


In Bitcoin, you don't need to invest $20k at once; you can gradually accumulate your bitcoin, depending on how much you are earning and how much you are willing to invest. Even if you decide to invest $20 or less in Bitcoin every month, in two or three years, you will have a lot of Bitcoin in your portfolio and you would make profit from it (Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme). There are a lot of scam projects; some will only turn out to be shitcoins in the long run, while some might also do well to an extent, but so long as you know the risk you are taking by involving yourself with altcoins, good luck with that. Although some people may have made some profit with altcoins, it's referred to as gambling because you are not very sure if it's a project that was only launched to steal the money invested by the public. Some project may not meet their target, and from there, they will just run from their responsibility.
If you want any progress with investing in bitcoin you will just have to know the bitter truth that you must and I repeat "must be patient", the reason why people swoop all of a sudden to different altcoins is because of the rapid pumping of these coins where as bitcoin you have to invest and wait patiently till the market looks friendly enough to sell and this can take a really long time but with altcoin you can get that extra profits very quickly but there is a hard truth attached to this sudden price rise too as the same  rate at which it rises that's the same way it dump back and most times these altcoins drop so badly that you get to lose everything on your investment even the capital cash where as bitcoin nothing of such ever happens although the market turns bad sometimes but there is always a certainty of  rise again, so its better to go for a reliable investment than a quick and deadly one.

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This thing of; that I heard or someone said "such a thing" about bitcoin on the negative side is old, retrograde speech, as I commented in another thread today, it is speech from bitcoin's past.

Those who arrive are welcome, those who don't, ok, have a good time, it's that simple, so! you don't have to blame anyone or invited, come on, history repeats itself, there are a hundred investments that have been ignored in the recent past, you go to the 20th century and review, many of the best evaluated companies today were undervalued, hence many missed the boat, but it is normal, everything is based on trust.

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July 16, 2023, 06:44:46 AM
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This thing of; that I heard or someone said "such a thing" about bitcoin on the negative side is old, retrograde speech, as I commented in another thread today, it is speech from bitcoin's past.

Those who arrive are welcome, those who don't, ok, have a good time, it's that simple, so! you don't have to blame anyone or invited, come on, history repeats itself, there are a hundred investments that have been ignored in the recent past, you go to the 20th century and review, many of the best evaluated companies today were undervalued, hence many missed the boat, but it is normal, everything is based on trust.
Compare to my Bitcoin investment when I was still new? I was just ready to take the risk is all, trust alone can't do this since investing on Bitcoin demands money, I was ready for any possibilities even before knowing more about Bitcoin, this was why I get to know Bitcoin better, so imagine if there are more people like me in the world today.

Some people are not been told yet, but believe me, many people are opportunists when it comes to something that could work or may not work, they are always ready to take risks, but if the word of Bitcoin never reached them they won't know.

Because of my past experience, that's why I still keep telling people about Bitcoin, humans are full of different spirits and minds, not everyone will talk nonsense about Bitcoin, the majority did though, but few numbers of people that I told about Bitcoin have the same mind as I have.

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For the long term, yes. I've been obtaining some altcoins to build up profits for my bitcoin investment. Since its multiplier is considerably better than bitcoin, it's not terrible to dabble with some alternative currencies. That's what I do. Even if someone were to advise me to avoid alts, I couldn't be convinced to concentrate just on bitcoin as I am aware of how much easier it is to make gains on alts than on bitcoin. I'm not a whale, therefore I'll merely find a means to increase my meager funds before concentrating on an expensive bitcoin.


In Bitcoin, you don't need to invest $20k at once; you can gradually accumulate your bitcoin, depending on how much you are earning and how much you are willing to invest. Even if you decide to invest $20 or less in Bitcoin every month, in two or three years, you will have a lot of Bitcoin in your portfolio and you would make profit from it (Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme). There are a lot of scam projects; some will only turn out to be shitcoins in the long run, while some might also do well to an extent, but so long as you know the risk you are taking by involving yourself with altcoins, good luck with that. Although some people may have made some profit with altcoins, it's referred to as gambling because you are not very sure if it's a project that was only launched to steal the money invested by the public. Some project may not meet their target, and from there, they will just run from their responsibility.
Bitcoin doesnt necessitate huge pockets to use. Like those bodybuilders, you cant establish a substantial Bitcoin portfolio by taking risky, short-term bets. A few dollars here, a few there, and eventually you'll have a solid BTC hoard. The power of DCA lies in this very fact. This methodical technique is superior to gambling on the wild west of altcoins in hopes of making a quick buck.

We learned the hard way that many cryptocurrencies are just hit-and-run operations that leave behind a trail of angry investors. Who wouldnt feel cheated if they woke up to find their hard-earned money had been wasted on something that no longer existed? However, I agree with you that people who are willing to gamble with altcoins should know what they are doing.

Lets not lose sight of the fact that Bitcoin is the revolutionary technology that brought us here. Blockchain might potentially bring about a monumental change. Bitcoin, the prototypical cryptocurrency, is the one we can trust.

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The story about the pizza is already in the history it will never be perish, because it is experienced and written in the past, many people or investors really had a big regrets and this is the number one factors that affects the decisions of the new investors, Bitcoin today has a high price and many people or new investors had a doubt of buying it because it needs a big capital now a days so we cant blame them if they continue to ignore bitcoin,but gor me buying btc is not too late because bitcoin will surely reach 100k$ the problem is that we dont know when.


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July 16, 2023, 11:51:10 AM
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We learned the hard way that many cryptocurrencies are just hit-and-run operations that leave behind a trail of angry investors. Who wouldnt feel cheated if they woke up to find their hard-earned money had been wasted on something that no longer existed? However, I agree with you that people who are willing to gamble with altcoins should know what they are doing.

Lets not lose sight of the fact that Bitcoin is the revolutionary technology that brought us here. Blockchain might potentially bring about a monumental change. Bitcoin, the prototypical cryptocurrency, is the one we can trust.

That's right, for altcoins, there's a lot going on, with their melodious singing that their coins are predicted to be a match for Coin A or Coin B so that many people want to enter. and only 3 months later all became ashes.

For BTC Not only us in this forum outside the forum many are paying attention to this revolutionary coin.

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July 16, 2023, 11:57:42 AM
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You are definitely not early, but you are not late as well. Considering total world population and number of Bitcoin owners there's a long way to go. You better start accumulating Bitcoin now than regret later. In 2013 I thought I was late to the party, after a decade I realised what opportunities have come our way. Those were early times. Now you missed the chance of making 1000x but you still have a chance to keep the value of your money and make a decent investment.

It's good to have a target. 0.1 BTC target you put is very achievable for most people. If you think you are late to own a full Bitcoin, you may go for 0.1 BTC target. I wonder where we will be in 10 years. Smiley

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