How much longer will JollyGood take to reverse his feedback?

[DaveF]

Yeah, way to many coincidences for them not to be related in some way.

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~dbc23
~coco23
~Zilon

Probably will tag them sooner or later, but lets see if any of them come back to try explain it away. Once again, probably will not work but stranger things have happened...just can't think of any at the moment.

And yet again, had they just ignored the 1 negative nobody would have cared. And since JG is quick to pull the trigger (nothing wrong with that) but it was still a minor thing a lot of campaign managers would have excused it for acceptance so long as everything else with the account was good.

-Dave

[dbc23]

Is it just me or has the quality of discussion and even grammatical coherence of posts gone down almost as logarithmyically as bitcoin went up last year?  I've been off the board for a little while and coming back it feels like it's completely different, I gleaned a MASSIVE amount of knowledge hear in the past years and now all I see is google translates of boiler plate statements.

Granted those translations have always been here, just seems like that's ALL there is these days.

Cmon bro, that's not you.

I have the right to express myself in which ever idiomatic and grammatical words I feel will express how I feel about a post. What is the essence of posting when I make the reader do extra research to comprehend my posts. I chose to lighten my choice of words to so I don't bug the reader with so much stress not everyone has that time to start debugging words.

Just like the word logarithmyically which was a way to say how many times Bitcoin went up in 2017, a comparison to how post quality dropped that year. Now comparing the quality of posts to previous years I saw that many posters decided to adopt google translators to make statements and the whole idea of getting unique knowledge died rather google boiler plate statement became rampant, more or less twisting contents from google and replicating them on the forum to earn merits. The sole reason I took a break at some point.

As for linking my account to coco23 is absurd, I mean we don't even post in the same way and manner same thing goes to Zilon who I will boldly say I brought into the forum. Instead of linking transactions and addresses we have used in the past check out the contents of both posters and draw your conclusions based on that...

I will leave the forum to make their final decision on this matter. I am tired of seeing users link accounts of users that are in no way related but do what is right and make sure you have enough evidence before mitting out your judgements.

My account is clean of all accusations. I can as well decide to transact with anybody on the forum any day any time and thereby moving funds across wallets

[Poker Player]

My account is clean of all accusations. I can as well decide to transact with anybody on the forum any day any time and thereby moving funds across wallets

No, it is not. What do you have to say about sharing addresses with the other accounts?

[nutildah]

As for linking my account to coco23 is absurd, I mean we don't even post in the same way and manner same thing goes to Zilon who I will boldly say I brought into the forum. Instead of linking transactions and addresses we have used in the past check out the contents of both posters and draw your conclusions based on that...

Well bro I'm not sure I would call it "absurd." You literally posted the same BTC address in posts that appear to be about half an hour apart. Why would we bother checking out the contents of posts when there's direct blockchain links tying you to other accounts? Those are generally regarded as more firm of a connection.

I will leave the forum to make their final decision on this matter. I am tired of seeing users link accounts of users that are in no way related but do what is right and make sure you have enough evidence before mitting out your judgements.

If you notice, nobody has actually red tagged you yet, but you know, do what you gotta do.

[JollyGood]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't see @JollyGood ever remove his feedback, it will always stand, the difference is the color he use.

I have removed and revised feedback on numerous occasions. I am not as strict or as stubborn as some might make me out to be 

On several occasions I gave completely incorrect feedback and removed/revised it. On some occasions I revised the feedback after the member posted and contributed positively regularly over a period of time.

When a matches is over and the result has been known to everyone, you then make your own prediction. That kind of wrong prediction should not be taken lightly at all. It is even no more a prediction. It is just a neutral tag about what you did in the past.

The issue that brought about the neutral tag for dbc23 was an error on his part but it was sufficient enough for me to understand what he was up to. If he did it another thread I did not frequent it could have gone unnoticed but he did it in one of my self-moderated threads therefore I spotted it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't see @JollyGood ever remove his feedback, it will always stand, the difference is the color he use.

JollyGood has removed a red tag or 2 during his tenure here.

Yes I have, I am quick to revise or remove tags when I realise I made a mistake, I am human after all therefore am prone to errors even when I try my best   

You are correct in saying the neutral doesn't mean much.

@OP you might consider just letting it go and locking this thread. The feedback is neutral and means very little. At worst it will make a manager look more deeply at your profile when you apply for a sig campaign. If you are putting effort into your posts, you have nothing to worry about.

If he were to put effort in when posting the OP would not have had anything to worry about now some of his farming accounts have been connected he and the associated accounts will probably have problems enrolling now.

I don't know if this sounds funny or not but I had a chuckle after reading this. It seems that JG's concern was not that the OP predicted an already concluded match, what upset him the more was that the result was wrongly predicted

Honestly speaking, I could not care less about the score, it was simply the fact that an event already happened and the outcome was already know yet the OP still wrote nonsense which clearly showed he posted to increase his posts.

This is one of the many things we see in the gambling discussion mega threads, just that most of them are buried faster than they can be discovered.

He posted in one of my self-moderated threads that was why I noticed his post.

[SatoPrincess]

It would seem OP’s decision to create this thread has opened a can of worms, I’m sure he will be regretting his decision now. He could have sent a pm to Jollygood and avoid such open confrontation, I guess he thought if his case was supported by other members, JG would reconsider his feedback. I think you’re lucky no one has tagged you yet, even if it’s true that the other account is your brother or friend, most people wouldn’t believe you because that excuse has already been used up.

[dbc23]

As for linking my account to coco23 is absurd, I mean we don't even post in the same way and manner same thing goes to Zilon who I will boldly say I brought into the forum. Instead of linking transactions and addresses we have used in the past check out the contents of both posters and draw your conclusions based on that...

Well bro I'm not sure I would call it "absurd." You literally posted the same BTC address in posts that appear to be about half an hour apart. Why would we bother checking out the contents of posts when there's direct blockchain links tying you to other accounts? Those are generally regarded as more firm of a connection.

I wish coco23 will say something about this and why he choose to post the same BTC address I can't be defending something I know nothing about. I haven't sent a pm to such user neither have we exchanged anything before now. coco23 needs to come up to say why he chose to use my BTC address instead of his. If it will be possible we post our different locations on a particular day and time simultaneously or any other means that can prove it was a mistake on coco23 part.

[JollyGood]

Speaking of cans of worms, here is another case where a member is asking for (or insisting on) having neutral feedback removed as though it somehow becomes compulsory for one to remove or revise it as per to the liking of the one receiving it.

Question (and thread title):
"How much longer will JollyGood take to reverse his feedback?"

Answer:
"I will not remove it" (if that is what the OP means by reverse)

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I have no idea why anybody would go to such lengths and such theatrics for the sake of trying to have a neutral tag removed unless it is connected in some way shape or form to earning from bounties, avatars or signature campaigns and on too many occasions related to account farming and to puppeteers that are controlling several accounts.

Even those proclaiming their reputation is under scrutiny because of a single neutral tag from me and if they insist they are not a low level poster (which over a period of time they might be able to prove with good quality posts), eventually somehow find themselves and their reputations connected to earning via the forum which is what it ultimately comes down to. Some go around chasing for a neutral tag to be removed and others try their best for a negative tag to be removed.

In this case, the farming will probably exceed the three names mentioned but we will wait to see what transpires in a short period ahead:

~dbc23
~coco23
~Zilon

It would seem OP’s decision to create this thread has opened a can of worms, I’m sure he will be regretting his decision now. He could have sent a pm to Jollygood and avoid such open confrontation, I guess he thought if his case was supported by other members, JG would reconsider his feedback. I think you’re lucky no one has tagged you yet, even if it’s true that the other account is your brother or friend, most people wouldn’t believe you because that excuse has already been used up.

[Stalker22]

I wish coco23 will say something about this and why he choose to post the same BTC address I can't be defending something I know nothing about. I haven't sent a pm to such user neither have we exchanged anything before now. coco23 needs to come up to say why he chose to use my BTC address instead of his. If it will be possible we post our different locations on a particular day and time simultaneously or any other means that can prove it was a mistake on coco23 part.

And what about the Zilon account? You mentioned that you brought him to the forum, right? It is interesting that at that time, you (dbc23) were inactive on the forum for more than two years. Can you tell us more about that?

[actmyname]

Even those proclaiming their reputation is under scrutiny because of a single neutral tag from me

If someone does claim this as the case, then clearly the neutral tag should not be removed.

In fact, such a case would demand the neutral tag's elevation to a higher status of negative feedback, in my opinion.

[dbc23]

I wish coco23 will say something about this and why he choose to post the same BTC address I can't be defending something I know nothing about. I haven't sent a pm to such user neither have we exchanged anything before now. coco23 needs to come up to say why he chose to use my BTC address instead of his. If it will be possible we post our different locations on a particular day and time simultaneously or any other means that can prove it was a mistake on coco23 part.

And what about the Zilon account? You mentioned that you brought him to the forum, right? It is interesting that at that time, you (dbc23) were inactive on the forum for more than two years. Can you tell us more about that?

Thank you for bringing this up. Zilon registered October 07, 2020 back then I was taking a break from the forum in which I did my last post in 2018, I wanted registering with a brand new account but was asked to use this since it has been in the forum since 2017 when Zilon joined a signature campaign he encouraged me to pick up my account if you watch I am even less consistent because of my job, I was sceptical about it when I eventually did in 2021 I tried building back from scratch. If we check before then Zilon grew with speed, Zilon was more interested in Technical discussion in which I encouraged him to do more research before posting. I know little or nothing about technical discussion and I am not interested because it is full of technical jargons.

If you wish check Zilon's interest on the forum and check mine. We have our favourite boards and we don't share anything in common not even post pattern or choice of words. If for any reason Zilon and dbc23 is tagged as one account let it be based on content because that is the most concrete evidence to me.  We only know ourselves and that is all..

Zilon should not pay for what he knows nothing about.

[Timelord2067]

Speaking of cans of worms, here is another case where a member is asking for (or insisting on) having neutral feedback removed as though it somehow becomes compulsory for one to remove or revise it as per to the liking of the one receiving it.

Question (and thread title):
"How much longer will JollyGood take to reverse his feedback?"

Answer:
"I will not remove it" (if that is what the OP means by reverse)

I have no idea why anybody would go to such lengths and such theatrics ...

This is just like a few years ago when various UID's created threads that I had left them *neutral* trust feedback and they ran with it encouraged by a minority of DT Trolls who rinse and repeat to bang their thin skinned drums and wiggle their bonny fingers.  It will pass and as we've seen here, the OP is just one of many alts that are quickly exposed by many.

Next week they will find someone else to Troll and their throw away farmed account will be yesterday's news.

Another reason newbies shouldn't be allowed into some sections of the forum.

[Poker Player]

How many coincidences today.

I see a pattern here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449784.msg62156205#msg62156205

I don't know if these multi-account holders have a plausible deniability plan in advance if they are caught to avoid getting negative tags. The same thing happened in that case.

The explanations he gives are within reason, but they prove nothing. That Zilon and dbc23 write on different boards may obey a pre-established plan precisely to try to make it appear that there are different people behind the accounts.

[Jawhead999]

I have removed and revised feedback on numerous occasions. I am not as strict or as stubborn as some might make me out to be  

Nice to see that, maybe I wasn't in this forum or not following all the cases here, that's why I can't remember if you have revised your feedback.

I'm not tagging you but I am excluding you and coco23.

Looks like coco23 isn't his alt because this user is active in German board, while Zilon and dbc23 are from Nigeria.

Anyway I find something interesting here, these three accounts were using the same imgbb's account named MERIT LOUIS (Archived version)

Alisha-k is a 1xbit participant and already received numerous negative feedback, it's the time to say goodbye for Zilon and dbc23?

It's interesting what the @OP will say about this

[dkbit98]

What's worse is you appear to have a bunch of accounts on this forum, and one of them is even in DT2:

Oh it looks like plot thickens, and new multi account connection is now unlocked
Whenever I see someone bitching so much about neutral feedback I know there is something fishy about that, but they usually dig their own hole with bringing attention of investigators
I don't think that coco23 and all his alt accounts should be in DT at all...

Looks like coco23 isn't his alt because this user is active in German board, while Zilon and dbc23 are from Nigeria.

That could also mean that some accounts changed hands (maybe in 2020).

[nutildah]

Looks like coco23 isn't his alt because this user is active in German board, while Zilon and dbc23 are from Nigeria.

There was a 15-20 minute window in which coco23 may have for whatever reason pasted dbc23's BTC address in their own application, which is why I didn't straight up tag him for sig campaign cheating. It still seems highly unlikely that it was a mistake. Have you ever applied for a sig campaign using somebody else's BTC address?

Anyway I find something interesting here, these three accounts were using the same imgbb's account named MERIT LOUIS (Archived version)

This is a very clever find. I would have never thought to look at that kind of thing. If anything dbc23 will just have to join 1xbit now  

[Poker Player]

I think there are too many evidences in this thread not to wait any longer to negative tag the OP and Zilon.

In the case of the OP, having seen him give explanations I doubt he could say anything more convincing. In the case of Zilon maybe, but what are they going to say about the ibb account that is created with only one username and one email? It was created by the same person . It doesn't make sense otherwise.

[Stalker22]

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Anyway I find something interesting here, these three accounts were using the same imgbb's account named MERIT LOUIS (Archived version)

This is a great find, @Jawhead999! Based on the evidence you have uncovered, along with our previous findings, it appears quite clear that Zilon, dbc23, and Alisha-k are indeed operated by the same user. Well done on connecting the dots!

Speaking of which, do you have any tricks for finding images in posts? I tried with ninjastic.space but it doesn't seem to be possible. I can find the links, but not the embeded images.

[Timelord2067]

Not saying they are alts, however, there is a clear pattern going on here:

the only other UID's with "coco" in their names all have "23" in their profile name:

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Offline 	coco23 							Hero Member 	2013-03-19 	2706 	
Offline 	Rococo23 							Brand new 	2018-01-09 	0 	
Offline 	coco2392 							Brand new 	2018-02-22 	0 	
Offline 	dricoco23 							Newbie 	2017-09-07 	1 	

Then we have dbc23 which also has "23" in the name

Alisha-k was registered on the 23^rd...

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Offline 	Alisha-k 							Member 	2020-10-23 	1899 	

[JollyGood]

Even those proclaiming their reputation is under scrutiny because of a single neutral tag from me

If someone does claim this as the case, then clearly the neutral tag should not be removed.

In fact, such a case would demand the neutral tag's elevation to a higher status of negative feedback, in my opinion.

You have an interesting observation on elevating the status of the feedback  

This is just like a few years ago when various UID's created threads that I had left them *neutral* trust feedback and they ran with it encouraged by a minority of DT Trolls who rinse and repeat to bang their thin skinned drums and wiggle their bonny fingers.  It will pass and as we've seen here, the OP is just one of many alts that are quickly exposed by many.

Next week they will find someone else to Troll and their throw away farmed account will be yesterday's news.

Another reason newbies shouldn't be allowed into some sections of the forum.

I am unfamiliar with the incident you refer to therefore I will try to search for it but were any of the DT trolls (as you refer to them) added on DT by an alleged alt-account? If you were trolled by a group over a neutral tag then that seems highly excessive but it is not an uncommon phenomena in the forum. Not that long as I was trolled by a group of 3-4 who were using any and every opportunity to troll me and even now occasionally it seems one or two of them from time to time have a small outburst but it does not bother me.

It would be interesting to find out the incident you refer to, is it possible to post a link to the neutral feedback you left?

Alisha-k is a 1xbit participant and already received numerous negative feedback, it's the time to say goodbye for Zilon and dbc23?

It's interesting what the @OP will say about this

The OP has gone quiet on this and several other claims made in this thread but surprisingly he has not locked the thread.