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My doubt is: is the dealer too skilled and fast with stones and sticks or is he cheating the players?
If people are losing money because they can't follow the dealer's hands efficiently, it's not scam, rather it's part of gambling game. And they are only losing money because they agreed playing the game... I don't think it's a crime.
On the other hand, if the dealer is hidding every stones and sticks somehow to not give the gambler any winning chances, then it's a theft and you can really call them thieves.
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May 16, 2023, 09:29:57 PM |
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I have seen this type of event in my community.
Let me try to explain how it works; once they get to their place which is mostly in market places or anywhere that's busy with people the next thing they'll do is to start shuffling cards rounds and then you'll be asked to select a certain card. What's actually happening is that all those that are present at the scene are all together so they'll have to pretend as if they don't know each other and make it seems as if they are just playing normally and also winning and if you are close to them you'll be tempted to give it a try and once you start playing you'll be asked to wager something big to win a more bigger price and once you're done wagering it doesn't matter if you win or not you won't get both the price and your wager back.
As soon as you win they'll start a commotion to disrupt the game and in he midst of that commotion they'll exchange you wager with someone that will immediately leave the scene and once everything settle down your money will be no where to be found. And if you're the persistent type you'll end up being beaten by them.
I haven't experienced it but I have seen it happen live in my community.
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May 16, 2023, 09:42:10 PM |
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~snip~ My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money??
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
What you are talking about in this thread, is traditional gambling. if so, don't be surprised if dishonest gambling practices like this will always exist. so one shouldn't get caught up by the scenarios like you described in this thread. because, modes like this are easy for us to detect. although it still happens in various places, and usually the victim is a person who has no knowledge or minimal experience. they are tempted by the reward, which actually has been set up by the perpetrators. looking for a weak target, as if the victim will get multiple benefits. what an irony, in an era like today if there are still those who are deceived by the mode as you describe. Well, losing and winning in a bet/gambling is one thing for sure. If you often experience losing on the bets that you make, do you have to get a refund from the casino that you play at and how. I guess, the scenario is not like that. if someone does not want to lose his money, he should not try to get involved with this one hobby. because, this hobby has risks contained therein. Gamblers should be aware that the money they risk at the casino has the potential to lose and this is part of the risk. but on the contrary, someone can get a reward according to his luck.
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May 16, 2023, 09:59:12 PM |
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Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.
So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???
The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....
At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.
So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.
My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money??
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
Actually i do have the same experience wayback when im still on age 11-13 on which i did really go into a carnival and there's someone who do have that kind of game which they would be letting you a marble be dropped and if it goes down to the bottom without getting stuck then you would win money but if not then your bet would be lost. They would be giving out that free test out and no matter how many times you would try and having that assurance that it would really be like easy peazy kind of mindset and feelings on which on the time that you would be putting up some bets then this is the time they would be pulling up something just to make that blockage on passageway of that marble which it would really be divert out into other path and would be losing your bet. I did have in mind that it was impossible and i did make out some observations on the time that he had been dealing with other people on which i did able to observe about that secret toggle anytime that people would make out bets. A clever son of a b*tch. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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May 16, 2023, 10:10:33 PM |
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~snip~
Gambling is a choice, getting scammed is not. But that's not to say you can't protect yourself from them. Be smart, be vigilant, and if it's too good to be true, walk away and move on with your life and more important things because 9 times out of 10, it is.
^ This is so true and definitely right. But losing a bet can indeed be disappointing, and it is natural to feel that way. However, remember that gambling is a personal choice, and no one should compel or persuade you into it. Even though some may wish for refunds when they lose, it is always good to accept that the outcome of a bet is part of the risk involved in gambling. If we want to avoid the disappointment of losing bets, here is probably a helpful tip. Number 1 is to set a strict budget and stick to it. Before you start gambling, decide on the amount of money you are willing to risk and can afford to lose. This approach ensures that you won't be tempted to chase losses or overspend beyond your means. Always remember, gambling should be seen as entertainment rather than a reliable source of income, and responsible budgeting is key to maintaining a healthy relationship with it and that lady was in a wrong choice.
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May 16, 2023, 10:24:54 PM |
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~snip~
Gambling is a choice, getting scammed is not. But that's not to say you can't protect yourself from them. Be smart, be vigilant, and if it's too good to be true, walk away and move on with your life and more important things because 9 times out of 10, it is.
^ This is so true and definitely right. But losing a bet can indeed be disappointing, and it is natural to feel that way. However, remember that gambling is a personal choice, and no one should compel or persuade you into it. Even though some may wish for refunds when they lose, it is always good to accept that the outcome of a bet is part of the risk involved in gambling. If we want to avoid the disappointment of losing bets, here is probably a helpful tip. Number 1 is to set a strict budget and stick to it. Before you start gambling, decide on the amount of money you are willing to risk and can afford to lose. This approach ensures that you won't be tempted to chase losses or overspend beyond your means. Always remember, gambling should be seen as entertainment rather than a reliable source of income, and responsible budgeting is key to maintaining a healthy relationship with it and that lady was in a wrong choice. Sometimes people do really let their greed make them dumb and being blinded with it and this is the real reason on why they cant really to think up carefully and able to do the right decision when it comes to this. Using up on ones common sense would really be avoiding you on getting scammed because it is really that impossible that you cant really be able to see those red flags on the time that you would really be dealing with it on first time. Lets say that you are completely noob into it but doesnt mean that you cant notice something shady or odd on the time that its been done. Gambling is just for fun and a choice whether you would be gambling and engaging into it but getting scammed is something really that a thing that do happen if you dont make out some good decisions on avoiding it on the first place. It is really just that people do really miss out on making up some research and making use of their common sense on thats why they do really fall into this.
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May 16, 2023, 10:31:57 PM |
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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
I don't know of anyone that would be happy losing money in gambling or to anything. If having your money refund by the site was possible after you've lost, almost every user would have used the option. Unfortunately, you can't eat your cake and still have it. Should you happen to have won, you would be both hands dip into collecting your wins. Definitely, you won't even think on what it feels like to be on the side of the betting platform. Am sure they would wish the opposite as well, you not having to win. Gambling is always a thing of choice. No one gets compelled beyond his or her greed. Should you let your greed get the best of you, you might be in for some serious regrets.
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May 16, 2023, 10:43:16 PM |
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This are two contrasting situations. Your post is talking about a scamming scheme where people are lured into betting on a rigged game, they could do this by having one of the scammers pretend to be a player and win on their bets, just enough to make it believable, anyone who falls victim tries their luck and wins a little amount, not a serious loss for the scammers, but just enough to keep them playing, if they keep playing they start taking their money gradually till the person tires out or runs out of cash. Online gambling on reputable websites is different from this. The house always wants to win but has to be provably fair, to not scam players. There exist some scam gambling websites, so players should always verify before depositing into any platform. - Jay -
Probably, I believe that was the situation in which the game went. Two scammers disguising themselves to play and win deceiving unsuspecting individuals to engage with them. Then they start a game then the player wins at first then again and again and after that, their schemes begin and the player begin to play at loss until the player ends up using all the funds on them to play before they get themselves and realizes they have been scammed but by then, it would be too late for them to withdraw. Sometimes I wonder if these scammers go extra miles so as to have powers in convincing their prospective targets to fall for them. He do they even do that because this situation if this lady baffles me that should could not get herself until she was drained and get phone too gone.
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May 16, 2023, 10:59:44 PM |
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Gambling is a choice, and people easily fall for it. This is all because of the money that it can bring to the gambler. This doesn't happen with everyone, but the one that happens with a person gives hope and let people believe it as a way of making good money. Only after an encounter they'll understand the reality behind gambling.
Whether it is online gambling or the street gambling we should understand the reality and act wisely. This means we need to just focus on our fund management, and not let our mind cross the limits. This will help to have better gambling experience than losing and going behind the management for refund.
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May 16, 2023, 11:01:57 PM |
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Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.
So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???
The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....
At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.
So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.
My thoughts are this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money??
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
I can't categorize such activities as gambling but tricksters swindling their victims and nothing more, I am aware of that kind of fraud happening around the marketplace, parks and any locations with high population density. This has nothing to do with a casino since the operations casinos follow a license guideline unlike those activities that os pour on the use of magic and other mystical acts, best practice is to mind your business and avoid that fraud stars
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May 16, 2023, 11:05:58 PM |
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That is why if your mental constitution is weak, you should never, ever get into gambling especially those that can easily excite you and entice you into spending more money the more you play the game. That is a common strategy that these platforms/people are doing in order to stimulate the minds of the gamblers to spend more, and I'm not surprised that there are still some people that are believing that much in "beginner's luck" that they tend to push it too much.
Can't really blame the people who continues to perpetrate these gambling practices - it's still working and it's still profitable, thanks to these gullible people.
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May 16, 2023, 11:05:59 PM |
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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money?
Anything you do is always your choice from different options you have as well in gambling, because you cant gamble if you don't have money to bet, and you are no choice. I don't get the story of the lady on what kind of gambling she entered, but it looks like she is addicted to gambling and got her senses then cried out of losses. While refunds in gambling is not possible you should think ahead if that already before doing gambling to avoid such things.
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May 16, 2023, 11:21:52 PM |
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That is why if your mental constitution is weak, you should never, ever get into gambling especially those that can easily excite you and entice you into spending more money the more you play the game. That is a common strategy that these platforms/people are doing in order to stimulate the minds of the gamblers to spend more, and I'm not surprised that there are still some people that are believing that much in "beginner's luck" that they tend to push it too much.
Can't really blame the people who continues to perpetrate these gambling practices - it's still working and it's still profitable, thanks to these gullible people.
I would not call anyone to be weaker than others, just based on the way they gamble or the way the manage their own money. Gullible is a more correct adjective, people let the magical thinking and the feeling of perhaps being more special than others to take over them and in the end they get massive losses. "My neighbor won some money in the casino, I bet can I do the same" "I know mathematics, I bet I can bet the system" So on and so on. We need to be fully aware of what we get into. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Zlantann
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May 16, 2023, 11:28:00 PM |
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Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.
So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???
The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....
At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.
So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.
This type of gambling is rampant in my country. And they are set up by a group of unkept criminals whose sole intention is to rip people off their money. They attract people by announcing their big wins so as to gain the attention of passersby. I have also seen a man that understood the trick and kept winning until they became angry and attacked the man intending to collect their losses from him. My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money??
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it. Every gambler intends to win the bet. Even those that claim they gamble for just fun don't want to lose a bet no matter how small the stake is. We are not happy whenever we lose a game and I have never seen any gambler celebrating his losses. But the amount of loss will determine our reactions. When you lose heavily, it could lead to worries, cries, sleepless nights, or even sickness. You keep wishing that the betting company will refund your money back. But when you gamble with what you can afford to lose, the effect is minimal. You will not feel too disturbed when the game didn't go your way. It is your money, so nobody should tell you or force you to use your money against your will. That us why gambling is for mature minds and not for the underaged.
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May 17, 2023, 02:49:11 AM |
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- When you enter a casino, it means that you yourself are aware of what can happen, it is impossible not to know that there is a risk in what you do gambling in a gambling online.
Now if you lose, and it even leads to you paying personal things to the casino, it is because you are trapped by your own greed or ambition to recover your loss by thinking that you will win the next time you bet, that's it your mindset, which is not good.
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May 17, 2023, 05:21:40 AM |
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Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.
So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???
The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....
At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.
So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.
My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money??
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
This has been in the internet for many years that gambling like this in the streets(though they are differently initiated ) there are similar patter and this is to let you win in the beginning so youll continue playing and that is the start of your burden. and actually I also find this way in some gambling site , that there are what we called beginners luck? but the truth is they are manipulating the system to make you feel at ease . sorry for that loser but I think this will be a lesson for her. Gambling isn't only our Choice but our obligation as well. we will not lose if we don't allow this to happen (i mean lose completely) it is normal to lose some amount but continuously? then there must be greedy attitude inside then.
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worle1bm
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May 17, 2023, 06:03:19 AM |
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Right gambling is completely based on our choices like if we are interested in it then we wager on our favourite bets but if we don't like then nobody can compel us for wagering our money.But if you say about feeling sad then on each loss we face this situation and it's normal but this is why they say not to become emotionally attached to it and have stop limits as well.
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Mauser
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May 17, 2023, 06:09:51 AM |
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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet?? Do you wish the site can refund your money??
Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
Of course gambling is our own choice and we should not be forced by anybody into it. In my country public gambling by unlicensed individuals is not allowed and the police will arrest you very quickly. I have seen such games in the past while on vacation, but always asked myself why would anybody gamble in such a setting? You are obviously getting scammed by some shady people and you should know better than to trust them. Why not gamble in a casino instead where you know at least that the games are fair and not rigged? I am sorry for the woman to lose it all, this was a valuable lesson and she is never going to fall for it again. Why should a casino refund your money? It's part of the game that there are winners and losers. Just because we lose one time doesn't mean we can get a refund. Because then the casino could also ask for a refund if we are winning the jackpot and they have to pay us the big money.
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May 17, 2023, 06:45:07 AM |
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In fact, it is true that gambling is a choice for each person that cannot be forced because gambling will only deal with defeat and when we lose we also cannot ask for the money back. It is very unlikely that if we lose at online gambling, we have to be angry and cry to hope for our money back, but if it has become our own choice, we will definitely accept every risk that will be obtained, such as defeat. So there is no need to force other people or yourself to gamble responsibly at gambling, it would be better.
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May 17, 2023, 06:55:05 AM |
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We must feel disappointed because we have experienced defeat in betting and we will experience that. We cannot hope the site will return the money we used to gamble because we have gambled on their site and lost.
Playing gambling is everyone's choice. Some want to gamble and some don't want to gamble. If you want to gamble, you must be prepared to experience defeat, where defeat is a sure thing in gambling. Meanwhile, victory will not always come to you, so prepare some money and enjoy playing gambling and stop before your money runs out.
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