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June 06, 2023, 07:57:24 PM
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The casinos that charge withdrawal fees is not a bad thing nor should it be interpreted as something bad because what is done here is to try to understand that the casinos cannot be covering those expenses that are our own, of course there are some casinos that do they assume that expense and although I do not agree that casinos charge more than they should even if bitcoin rises in price, I think that casinos should implement alternating solutions to avoid this, perhaps they will set up a Bitcoin to USDT exchange to that a withdrawal can be made in usdt and it is not a fee problem, it has happened to me that I have had to gamble too much to be able to withdraw considering the fee.
I guess you know that Stake.com charges a very moderate fee and some even charge nothing at all. Those who rip off their customers are not the most reliable casinos either. Why would they have to charge excessive withdrawal fees when those fees actually should be much lower according to the network? Some even kept their fees steady and low when we had the fee explosion recently. I think it is a big promotional action because I also prefer platforms which have a fee policy that fits the actual network load instead of taking a big fat chunk of your own money for nothing.
The most trusted and reputable platforms will surely have lower fees as they can manage to earn revenue through their gambling services and don't need anything extra from their gamblers but some casinos that are relatively new and maybe don't have a very large user base will charge extra fees than what the network actually asks for and that goes to the casino revenue I believe.

Users obviously would prefer a platform that doesn't rip them off when they are trying to make a withdrawal, and even if the amount isn't very big, it at least is higher than what should be asked for, in such times, casinos that are asking for lower fees will surely get more popularity than normal times.

But don't be surprised that reverse is now the case of most gambling platforms where this is applicable, the bigger and most established gambling platforms charges more because they feels they have that reputation needed for them to be trusted and also that they need more finances to maintain this reputation they have built, yet we also have some newly established gambling platforms that keeps upto expectation and charges less.

Can you give examples? I know that Stake.com charges a very small fee only and for example Sportsbet charges nothing for withdrawals. I would deem these two platforms quite big and that would be contrary to what you have said. It differs among those platforms but i can definitely say that I avoid those that charge way too much in excess of actual network fees. I am not a high stakes player and fees do matter in that case.
I dont have experience in withdrawal fee on sports in Stake, but have you tried on withdrawing out your balance specially on Bitcoin on whats the fee that they've been asking? It turns out that they do have

that standard 0.0001-2 based up with my experience.This is why long time ago i did make changed out some casinos because im not really that much confident when it comes to deduction.
Dont know if they did make out some adjustments about that as this one would really be that big. I dont really like the idea on having that static fee. Having that dynamic or would be basing up
on the network condition would be always preferable but of  course not all would really be minding about such stuff.

Adding up some amounts is something that would really be decisioned whether it would really be applied or not basing up on the request or appeal of its users.

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June 07, 2023, 03:58:13 AM
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I dont have experience in withdrawal fee on sports in Stake, but have you tried on withdrawing out your balance specially on Bitcoin on whats the fee that they've been asking? It turns out that they do have

that standard 0.0001-2 based up with my experience.This is why long time ago i did make changed out some casinos because im not really that much confident when it comes to deduction.
Dont know if they did make out some adjustments about that as this one would really be that big. I dont really like the idea on having that static fee. Having that dynamic or would be basing up
on the network condition would be always preferable but of  course not all would really be minding about such stuff.

Adding up some amounts is something that would really be decisioned whether it would really be applied or not basing up on the request or appeal of its users.

Of course I have tried withdrawing. I am using Stake quite often and currently they have a flat fee of 0.00007 BTC, which I think is ok and they also have it in very busy times. But it is an amount that players with relatively low stakes can still take and it is also reasonable because of the network load that is going on these days.

But there are a few casinos that charge nothing for withdrawals, which is actually a big plus for them in my opinion. But what surprised me is that they don't advertise it that way. When I made my first withdrawal I couldn't find the fee because there wasn't any and then I thought that deduct something automatically or I will receive less, but no, the withdrawal fee is paid by the platform then. That was nice.

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June 07, 2023, 04:24:25 AM
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Let's talk a little on the gambling platforms performances and their website appearance and functionality, the display orientation, kinds of fonts and letters used, their designs and the time taken on the website to load up their page, though most of these listed and not the primary needs any gambler can out first but they also served under the secondary categories of what some considers especially the time taken for a gambling casino to load it page, the other common things are inability to withdraw, KYC challenge, suspicious abuse or activities and many others.
Gambling functionality and appearance are primarily determined by the team behind the project, as there are many of these sites in the sector, and their distinctions vary according on the techniques and data involved. There is a preference table triggered by the team, and one may compare a casino site that has been in operation for years to a recently developed one, and there is a significant difference. Customers would constantly dash to those that provide them favorable terms. Gambling platforms are always being improved in order to better serve their diverse clients. Clients post complaints on a daily basis, therefore there is always space for improvement.


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June 07, 2023, 04:40:04 AM
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But there are a few casinos that charge nothing for withdrawals, which is actually a big plus for them in my opinion. But what surprised me is that they don't advertise it that way. When I made my first withdrawal I couldn't find the fee because there wasn't any and then I thought that deduct something automatically or I will receive less, but no, the withdrawal fee is paid by the platform then. That was nice.


Because players don't withdraw that much at a casino that casino doesn't focus on advertising their free withdrawal feature. They are focusing on what the players really like the most, the bonus system. Cashback and Rakeback is often the most attractive part of the casino which is why this bonus percentage is always in the front and not the withdrawal fee because the fee is just very minimal compared to the bonuses.

What I don't understand is why other casino still charged huge fees while other casino can afford to set it on free.

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June 07, 2023, 12:08:40 PM
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But there are a few casinos that charge nothing for withdrawals, which is actually a big plus for them in my opinion. But what surprised me is that they don't advertise it that way. When I made my first withdrawal I couldn't find the fee because there wasn't any and then I thought that deduct something automatically or I will receive less, but no, the withdrawal fee is paid by the platform then. That was nice.
Really? That was cool, but can you name some of those casinos? A lot of us are not aware with that, which is why we are still paying for a withdrawal fee whenever we withdraw money on the existing casinos that we play. Maybe there is a catch for that like the casino place some advertisements on the side, top or bottom of their site which allows them to earn extra revenue.

I won't mind it as long as it's not annoying. We should not underestimate the withdrawal fees. Sure some cheap cryptos only requires tiny fees but we are talking about casinos here and they always have lots of customers so if those cheap fees were combined, it will still equate to a large amount.

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June 07, 2023, 05:47:49 PM
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Because players don't withdraw that much at a casino that casino doesn't focus on advertising their free withdrawal feature. They are focusing on what the players really like the most, the bonus system. Cashback and Rakeback is often the most attractive part of the casino which is why this bonus percentage is always in the front and not the withdrawal fee because the fee is just very minimal compared to the bonuses.

What I don't understand is why other casino still charged huge fees while other casino can afford to set it on free.


This is a very weird yet interesting explanation as to why casinos should not advertise their zero fee withdrawal policy, but ok... Cheesy

But there are a few casinos that charge nothing for withdrawals, which is actually a big plus for them in my opinion. But what surprised me is that they don't advertise it that way. When I made my first withdrawal I couldn't find the fee because there wasn't any and then I thought that deduct something automatically or I will receive less, but no, the withdrawal fee is paid by the platform then. That was nice.
Really? That was cool, but can you name some of those casinos? A lot of us are not aware with that, which is why we are still paying for a withdrawal fee whenever we withdraw money on the existing casinos that we play. Maybe there is a catch for that like the casino place some advertisements on the side, top or bottom of their site which allows them to earn extra revenue.

I won't mind it as long as it's not annoying. We should not underestimate the withdrawal fees. Sure some cheap cryptos only requires tiny fees but we are talking about casinos here and they always have lots of customers so if those cheap fees were combined, it will still equate to a large amount.

I think I have mentioned it somewhere before here but Sportsbet.io is one of those casinos that does not charge any withdrawal fee, but they have some least amounts in crypto that you can withdraw. I think for BTC it is 0.002. So if you are playing with lower stakes, you still have to consider that any withdrawal needs to equal or exceed that threshold at least, but then it is free.

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June 09, 2023, 08:58:30 AM
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Of course I have tried withdrawing. I am using Stake quite often and currently they have a flat fee of 0.00007 BTC, which I think is ok and they also have it in very busy times. But it is an amount that players with relatively low stakes can still take and it is also reasonable because of the network load that is going on these days.

But there are a few casinos that charge nothing for withdrawals, which is actually a big plus for them in my opinion. But what surprised me is that they don't advertise it that way. When I made my first withdrawal I couldn't find the fee because there wasn't any and then I thought that deduct something automatically or I will receive less, but no, the withdrawal fee is paid by the platform then. That was nice.
I don't believe what I just read, in times like these where casinos are cutting costs only to survive the hard times, how can a platform pay the withdrawal fees for their gamblers because that will be a lot of money to pay from their own money unless they have a very limited amount of gamblers, and if they really do that, why don't they promote their platform using that?

I'm pretty sure that anyone reading an endorsement like a platform giving free withdrawals will surely sign up and try them at least once and if they manage their platform in a good and reputable manner, they might get a lot of loyal customers.

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June 09, 2023, 02:35:45 PM
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But there are a few casinos that charge nothing for withdrawals, which is actually a big plus for them in my opinion. But what surprised me is that they don't advertise it that way. When I made my first withdrawal I couldn't find the fee because there wasn't any and then I thought that deduct something automatically or I will receive less, but no, the withdrawal fee is paid by the platform then. That was nice.
Because players don't withdraw that much at a casino that casino doesn't focus on advertising their free withdrawal feature. They are focusing on what the players really like the most, the bonus system. Cashback and Rakeback is often the most attractive part of the casino which is why this bonus percentage is always in the front and not the withdrawal fee because the fee is just very minimal compared to the bonuses.

What I don't understand is why other casino still charged huge fees while other casino can afford to set it on free.
Perhaps, casinos still need time to lower transaction costs because they do it manually. And I think that's natural because at least the casino will reduce the transaction fees later. For other casinos, they may apply transaction fees automatically and follow the development of transaction fees on the network so that when the transaction costs decrease, the costs at the casino also immediately decrease.

And it's better that casinos advertise other things that can attract the attention of more gamblers. It can make the casino have more people who will sign up. And if the fees on the network increase again later, it's best for members to check with the support service first so they won't be surprised to see the fees have gone up or down.

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June 10, 2023, 04:50:45 PM
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I honestly observe this with many different crypto websites not even casinos. Some companies try to gain extra money through transactions. I also think its very close to robbery. Online casinos can generate huge amount of money through players/gamblers anyways. I think low fees promote usage anyways. I find it very awkward and disruptive. I think casinos should not treat their customers as cows that they will milk money away.
Do gambling sites consider advice or suggestions? Perhaps they could explore alternative blockchains with lower transaction fees or utilize stable coins from different blockchains. Neglecting to embrace features that make it easier for customers to access their services or products seems unwise.

The casino should be able to consider the advice and maybe implement it if it provides an opportunity for the casino to grow even better. But I think each casino will provide the best for its users, except for casinos that only want their users' money. Such a casino would not consider any suggestions from its members but should be prepared if its users decide to leave its casino one day. It will bankrupt the casino and close its casino because there is no support from its users. It may already be the case for the new casinos just launched.
Of course, it is a fact, here things can be seen in different ways, what each person thinks about a casino is respectable, for that reason if users let the casino know that they need to check Certain things, the casino should do it, If you want to Preserve these people, there is no other Way, it is like when the community asks you for Something so that they can improve, obviously if they do not do it , the success of the casino came to that point , just as they put they can take Away , this is the power of the Players when it Becomes a large Community.

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June 12, 2023, 02:28:23 AM
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The casino should be able to consider the advice and maybe implement it if it provides an opportunity for the casino to grow even better. But I think each casino will provide the best for its users, except for casinos that only want their users' money. Such a casino would not consider any suggestions from its members but should be prepared if its users decide to leave its casino one day. It will bankrupt the casino and close its casino because there is no support from its users. It may already be the case for the new casinos just launched.
The workers running casinos should prioritize the demands of clients in the industry. Although it is not a simple commitment, things do improve over time. Casinos are obligated to respond to customer complaints, because if a client registers a complaint and the casino fails to remedy the problem to the client's satisfaction, the client is regarded abandoned and dormant, and he or she will depart for a better one. Every individual desires what is best for them when it comes to playing casinos; the best quality is no stress or complaint and consistent speedy payment alternatives.

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I honestly observe this with many different crypto websites not even casinos. Some companies try to gain extra money through transactions. I also think its very close to robbery. Online casinos can generate huge amount of money through players/gamblers anyways. I think low fees promote usage anyways. I find it very awkward and disruptive. I think casinos should not treat their customers as cows that they will milk money away.
Do gambling sites consider advice or suggestions? Perhaps they could explore alternative blockchains with lower transaction fees or utilize stable coins from different blockchains. Neglecting to embrace features that make it easier for customers to access their services or products seems unwise.

The casino should be able to consider the advice and maybe implement it if it provides an opportunity for the casino to grow even better. But I think each casino will provide the best for its users, except for casinos that only want their users' money. Such a casino would not consider any suggestions from its members but should be prepared if its users decide to leave its casino one day. It will bankrupt the casino and close its casino because there is no support from its users. It may already be the case for the new casinos just launched.
It is very important that the casino owners listen to the Suggestions they make,  for me it is very important because the suggestions can be the voice of a Conglomerate that does not have the means to do it, and this in turn becomes a Community and that Community It makes it Possible for them to become one of the best casinos that they can recommend , or even worse if they don't Please that community, they can All leave , Because bad references about a casino Practically Mean that a casino goes to the Abyss and that it is very to Leave where they were , that is Something that must be Seen.

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June 12, 2023, 01:08:15 PM
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The casino should be able to consider the advice and maybe implement it if it provides an opportunity for the casino to grow even better. But I think each casino will provide the best for its users, except for casinos that only want their users' money. Such a casino would not consider any suggestions from its members but should be prepared if its users decide to leave its casino one day. It will bankrupt the casino and close its casino because there is no support from its users. It may already be the case for the new casinos just launched.
The workers running casinos should prioritize the demands of clients in the industry. Although it is not a simple commitment, things do improve over time. Casinos are obligated to respond to customer complaints, because if a client registers a complaint and the casino fails to remedy the problem to the client's satisfaction, the client is regarded abandoned and dormant, and he or she will depart for a better one. Every individual desires what is best for them when it comes to playing casinos; the best quality is no stress or complaint and consistent speedy payment alternatives.
Not only for a casino but it is obligatory for every business to keep their customers satisfied because a business runs only if it has customers, so customer is always first. Businesses tend to give more priority to a customer than their own staff because they understand the importance of having them and how difficult it is to maintain quality customer service and satisfaction.

When it comes to gambling, customers are already very sensitive and emotional with everything because it mostly involves a lot of money and customers would never want to have issues when there is money involved, so a casino that cannot provide good customer service and can't satisfy their customers with their services is more likely to lose their ratings and their business will start going towards a downfall.

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June 19, 2023, 06:00:53 PM
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Yes, those casinos are clearly taking advantage of us as much as they can. It only proves that they are not worth to play and cannot be trusted. That’s the reason why we need to be careful in choosing for an online casino, the one that is more secured and is proven to give customer support rather than luring its customers with high gas fees. Robbery is always bad, so we should learn to avoid online casinos that is clearly practicing this negative treatment towards its players or users.
Online gambling sites do not run a business in this way, for operational costs they already have special funds to run gambling sites and the reason for increasing the burden of operational costs from customers is the wrong pattern. In my opinion, companies that undergo a business on gambling sites will not do such things if you already have a good reputation as one of the trusted gambling sites, maybe the obstacle is because the bitcoin transaction costs are much higher, but when returning to normal as usual will be adjusted, maybe?

Other options may be able to choose a network that can be adjusted to the lower costs, for example using altcoin so that costs can be a little cheaper that can be adjusted, in this way we must recognize whether gambling sites provide deposit or withdrawal options using more features, so that when faced with With problems like this the we has the necessary options.
I think that the most common thing that bothers every player is when they mess with their money, and if they win, for example, about 100usd, they want to get the 100usd free, without any kind of fee, there are some casinos like bitcasino.io where you can do that, but unfortunately not all casinos are like this and do not assume this cost, so sometimes the person to be able to withdraw their liquid money has to gamble more to make it from the fee, and I know some for wanting to Doing that loses everything, and that is a very bad experience and it is never recommended to do it, unless you want to win very little.

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June 19, 2023, 07:37:37 PM
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I think that the most common thing that bothers every player is when they mess with their money, and if they win, for example, about 100usd, they want to get the 100usd free, without any kind of fee, there are some casinos like bitcasino.io where you can do that, but unfortunately not all casinos are like this and do not assume this cost, so sometimes the person to be able to withdraw their liquid money has to gamble more to make it from the fee, and I know some for wanting to Doing that loses everything, and that is a very bad experience and it is never recommended to do it, unless you want to win very little.

Because some casinos earn as well by doing that fee, maybe a little bit but it has. We cannot avoid such thing because it is really necessary maybe sometimes just like what you have said some casinos offer free withdraw if you reach the min amount but not at all, maybe OP needs to try other coin option that has a lesser fees so that he can enjoy his winning.
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June 19, 2023, 09:25:03 PM
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I think that the most common thing that bothers every player is when they mess with their money, and if they win, for example, about 100usd, they want to get the 100usd free, without any kind of fee, there are some casinos like bitcasino.io where you can do that, but unfortunately not all casinos are like this and do not assume this cost, so sometimes the person to be able to withdraw their liquid money has to gamble more to make it from the fee, and I know some for wanting to Doing that loses everything, and that is a very bad experience and it is never recommended to do it, unless you want to win very little.

Because some casinos earn as well by doing that fee, maybe a little bit but it has. We cannot avoid such thing because it is really necessary maybe sometimes just like what you have said some casinos offer free withdraw if you reach the min amount but not at all, maybe OP needs to try other coin option that has a lesser fees so that he can enjoy his winning.
Not all casinos offer fee-free withdrawal options, especially small online crypto casinos avoid this option and deduct the withdrawal fee from the player's balance. Using alternative coins such as TRX or XRP can be a suitable option for such players because of the cheap transaction commission and faster processing speed. BTW, some big casinos offer a free withdrawal option after the player reaches the specific VIP level. Bc.game is included in last category since they offer free withdrawal after VIP level 38 while Stake and DuelBits always have fee-based withdrawals for users.

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June 20, 2023, 05:35:53 PM
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The casinos that charge withdrawal fees is not a bad thing nor should it be interpreted as something bad because what is done here is to try to understand that the casinos cannot be covering those expenses that are our own, of course there are some casinos that do they assume that expense and although I do not agree that casinos charge more than they should even if bitcoin rises in price, I think that casinos should implement alternating solutions to avoid this, perhaps they will set up a Bitcoin to USDT exchange to that a withdrawal can be made in usdt and it is not a fee problem, it has happened to me that I have had to gamble too much to be able to withdraw considering the fee.


I guess you know that Stake.com charges a very moderate fee and some even charge nothing at all. Those who rip off their customers are not the most reliable casinos either. Why would they have to charge excessive withdrawal fees when those fees actually should be much lower according to the network? Some even kept their fees steady and low when we had the fee explosion recently. I think it is a big promotional action because I also prefer platforms which have a fee policy that fits the actual network load instead of taking a big fat chunk of your own money for nothing.

Exactly, things are like that, as far as I know that at stake.com things always go well with regard to fees when bitcoin rises in price, but I have seen exaggerations, or I don't know if they are exaggerations or abuses by the casinos that do that, for my part I have always liked the casinos that I frequent and they are not abusive, some even have free withdrawal fees, because the casino assumes that expense, it is a gesture that I find sensational .

However, it would be good if casinos had a method so that they do not charge bitcoin fees, an internal exchange, something like that so that they have more acceptance and therefore more customers.

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June 20, 2023, 10:25:53 PM
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The casinos that charge withdrawal fees is not a bad thing nor should it be interpreted as something bad because what is done here is to try to understand that the casinos cannot be covering those expenses that are our own, of course there are some casinos that do they assume that expense and although I do not agree that casinos charge more than they should even if bitcoin rises in price, I think that casinos should implement alternating solutions to avoid this, perhaps they will set up a Bitcoin to USDT exchange to that a withdrawal can be made in usdt and it is not a fee problem, it has happened to me that I have had to gamble too much to be able to withdraw considering the fee.
I guess you know that Stake.com charges a very moderate fee and some even charge nothing at all. Those who rip off their customers are not the most reliable casinos either. Why would they have to charge excessive withdrawal fees when those fees actually should be much lower according to the network? Some even kept their fees steady and low when we had the fee explosion recently. I think it is a big promotional action because I also prefer platforms which have a fee policy that fits the actual network load instead of taking a big fat chunk of your own money for nothing.
The most trusted and reputable platforms will surely have lower fees as they can manage to earn revenue through their gambling services and don't need anything extra from their gamblers but some casinos that are relatively new and maybe don't have a very large user base will charge extra fees than what the network actually asks for and that goes to the casino revenue I believe.

Users obviously would prefer a platform that doesn't rip them off when they are trying to make a withdrawal, and even if the amount isn't very big, it at least is higher than what should be asked for, in such times, casinos that are asking for lower fees will surely get more popularity than normal times.

For a casino like stake.com, where everything seems very easy to do, it will not be difficult at all to be able to obtain something additional such as preference, and it is very obvious that if bitcoin goes up at any price, they will always have a very low price of their fee for everyone to play and continue to be classified as the best, however, this is something that many imagine, and I know that it is very difficult to compete against new caisnos, it is something that will always be noticed, so the level of demand of a casino that is starting will always be superior to try to match the old ones, it is difficult for new casinos to do something similar to the big ones.

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June 20, 2023, 11:24:57 PM
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Because some casinos earn as well by doing that fee, maybe a little bit but it has. We cannot avoid such thing because it is really necessary maybe sometimes just like what you have said some casinos offer free withdraw if you reach the min amount but not at all,
It's rare to see now a casino that offers free withdrawal and that is because there's an inconsistency with the fees. Although I've seen some and it's like a promo for their new users so for every 1st withdrawal, they're giving it for free.

maybe OP needs to try other coin option that has a lesser fees so that he can enjoy his winning.
Some casinos that have an in-app exchange are convenient for their gamblers to avoid such high fees. And that's why everyone has their preference on which they like, some are for that feature, others are for the games and its convenient approach to their customers.

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Not all casinos offer fee-free withdrawal options, especially small online crypto casinos avoid this option and deduct the withdrawal fee from the player's balance. Using alternative coins such as TRX or XRP can be a suitable option for such players because of the cheap transaction commission and faster processing speed. BTW, some big casinos offer a free withdrawal option after the player reaches the specific VIP level. Bc.game is included in last category since they offer free withdrawal after VIP level 38 while Stake and DuelBits always have fee-based withdrawals for users.
for me actually the problem of expensive transaction fees is not too complicated because we as gamblers have many other coin choices that have cheaper costs as you said such as using TRX.

btw I want to ask because I'm no longer active on the site you mentioned, does the VIP rating on the site you mentioned still have a free withdrawal feature until now? because what I know maybe the site used to have this feature but I haven't been active there for a long time.

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June 21, 2023, 01:16:45 PM
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Because some casinos earn as well by doing that fee, maybe a little bit but it has. We cannot avoid such thing because it is really necessary maybe sometimes just like what you have said some casinos offer free withdraw if you reach the min amount but not at all,
It's rare to see now a casino that offers free withdrawal and that is because there's an inconsistency with the fees. Although I've seen some and it's like a promo for their new users so for every 1st withdrawal, they're giving it for free.

maybe OP needs to try other coin option that has a lesser fees so that he can enjoy his winning.
Some casinos that have an in-app exchange are convenient for their gamblers to avoid such high fees. And that's why everyone has their preference on which they like, some are for that feature, others are for the games and its convenient approach to their customers.

It's rare to find a casino that has a free withdrawal because of course, they have to profit too. They need to put a price on their features to earn without harming the pockets of the players and to continue operating. Aside from their profit in the games on their website, additional income will come from the withdrawal of the players. I think there won't be a problem with it since these gamblers can afford to gamble in the first place, therefore they can afford to pay the withdrawal fees which are lesser compared to what they typically spend.

Regarding in-house exchangers, this is really convenient for the players, but will be an additional thing to maintain for the casinos. Although hopefully, more casinos will have this in the future for less trouble and easy access.
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