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January 02, 2024, 04:03:30 AM
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Taking credit to back is never an acceptable response to gambling; a gambler will become engrossed in his own world. One tends to become more frustrated when things don't turn out as expected, and at that time, a lot of thoughts swirl it in his head; he needs time to relax, else he will make some drastic actions that he will come to regret later. Taking out loans and borrowing money to gamble is never an excellent concept since things always go wrong along the route. We all know how gaming proceeds are unpredictable, despite our strong technique, and losses are documented.
Yes, a gambler will be engrossed in his own world without paying attention to what is happening around him. Maybe he also wouldn't know anything about his surroundings because he was more focused on what he was doing. But they may have also taken out loans and borrowed money to gamble, so that's what makes them focus on gambling. If they take out a loan, they will try to make money from gambling and focus on winning more so they can repay the loan as soon as possible. Yes, the results of gambling cannot be predicted and we can only keep trying to gamble, but this must be done with limits so that we don't experience serious problems later. Many people have lost self-control and boundaries while gambling so they only experience serious problems and are confused about how to solve them.

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January 02, 2024, 05:57:06 AM
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Yes, a gambler will be engrossed in his own world without paying attention to what is happening around him. Maybe he also wouldn't know anything about his surroundings because he was more focused on what he was doing. But they may have also taken out loans and borrowed money to gamble, so that's what makes them focus on gambling. If they take out a loan, they will try to make money from gambling and focus on winning more so they can repay the loan as soon as possible. Yes, the results of gambling cannot be predicted and we can only keep trying to gamble, but this must be done with limits so that we don't experience serious problems later. Many people have lost self-control and boundaries while gambling so they only experience serious problems and are confused about how to solve them.
Borrowing money to gamble is not recommended and anyone who gambles with borrowed money will have series of real problems before them.
They borrow money and have to pay it back, of course they will also try to make win for certain amount of profit that can be used to pay the loan, but they forget that the sure guarantee in gambling is not victory but defeat.
When they lose and have to pay back loan, all they do is borrow again from other people to cover the previous loan and this will continue to happen until they are really in debt and unable to pay it.
Apart from that, he has also become gambling addict because the excessive activity he does in gambling has become habit that cannot be left behind.
Isn't this very worrying because more and more people are experiencing problems from gambling and they will always have problems that never stop.

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January 02, 2024, 07:21:08 AM
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Yes, a gambler will be engrossed in his own world without paying attention to what is happening around him. Maybe he also wouldn't know anything about his surroundings because he was more focused on what he was doing. But they may have also taken out loans and borrowed money to gamble, so that's what makes them focus on gambling. If they take out a loan, they will try to make money from gambling and focus on winning more so they can repay the loan as soon as possible. Yes, the results of gambling cannot be predicted and we can only keep trying to gamble, but this must be done with limits so that we don't experience serious problems later. Many people have lost self-control and boundaries while gambling so they only experience serious problems and are confused about how to solve them.
Borrowing money to gamble is not recommended and anyone who gambles with borrowed money will have series of real problems before them.
They borrow money and have to pay it back, of course they will also try to make win for certain amount of profit that can be used to pay the loan, but they forget that the sure guarantee in gambling is not victory but defeat.
When they lose and have to pay back loan, all they do is borrow again from other people to cover the previous loan and this will continue to happen until they are really in debt and unable to pay it.
Apart from that, he has also become gambling addict because the excessive activity he does in gambling has become habit that cannot be left behind.
Isn't this very worrying because more and more people are experiencing problems from gambling and they will always have problems that never stop.

That's one of my top list that I set for myself, I will never gamble with the money I owed to others or I won't gamble until I have extra money because I have seen or met many different people who experienced bad things in life because they were made to gamble using other people's money. for me, it is one of the things that should not be done to avoid the destruction of life, being in debt is a big damage especially if you don't have the ability to pay after gambling that's why I don't think play and pay later casino will be a norm in gambling world as we know that there's no guarantee of winning in doing gambling.



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January 02, 2024, 08:26:23 AM
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That's one of my top list that I set for myself, I will never gamble with the money I owed to others or I won't gamble until I have extra money because I have seen or met many different people who experienced bad things in life because they were made to gamble using other people's money. for me, it is one of the things that should not be done to avoid the destruction of life, being in debt is a big damage especially if you don't have the ability to pay after gambling that's why I don't think play and pay later casino will be a norm in gambling world as we know that there's no guarantee of winning in doing gambling.

That's a very thoughtful approach towards gambling. Your commitment to not gambling with money owed to others and having extra funds before participating is commendable. Can you share more about the experiences you've witnessed that led you to make such a decision, and how do you think this mindset can contribute to a responsible gambling culture?
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I've never seen such but I do know that people like using their debit cards to gamble and they end up in huge debt that they may never end up paying, that's why using debit cards to gamble in some countries got banned.

There is no casinos that allow gamblers to gamble and pay later, they knew that it's not good for business, some gamblers who end up in debt borrowed money from close relatives or friends, and they don't always pay back.

Ask yourself, if you build a casino will you allow people to play on debt? You know it will be very bad for your business, in a short period of time you will end up closing the casino down, due to lots of debt.

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January 02, 2024, 09:40:47 AM
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I've never seen such but I do know that people like using their debit cards to gamble and they end up in huge debt that they may never end up paying, that's why using debit cards to gamble in some countries got banned.

There is no casinos that allow gamblers to gamble and pay later, they knew that it's not good for business, some gamblers who end up in debt borrowed money from close relatives or friends, and they don't always pay back.

Ask yourself, if you build a casino will you allow people to play on debt? You know it will be very bad for your business, in a short period of time you will end up closing the casino down, due to lots of debt.
I'm kind of weirded out by this question, I don't even think that it's logical for a casino to do that kind of stuff maybe if they're also running a loan business on the side then they can probably do just that or if the casino is the illegal kind of casino that does loansharking then you can say that yes there's casinos that are doing what you're asking. It's not really bad for a casino to do that because if they approach and deal with it correctly, they can double or even triple their profit from their patrons.



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January 02, 2024, 10:26:24 AM
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I don't know about paying in casino games but it's a bad habit like gambling with weird debts that never gets into a good gambler. Even if the casino is good, not all gamblers have a chance to win and not all casinos pay out. If you don't have the money you need if you don't pay the loan on time you will face more problems. Even if you want to it is not possible to bring back the loss that will be incurred while involved in the loan.

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January 03, 2024, 06:47:24 AM
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Borrowing money to gamble is not recommended and anyone who gambles with borrowed money will have series of real problems before them.
They borrow money and have to pay it back, of course they will also try to make win for certain amount of profit that can be used to pay the loan, but they forget that the sure guarantee in gambling is not victory but defeat.
When they lose and have to pay back loan, all they do is borrow again from other people to cover the previous loan and this will continue to happen until they are really in debt and unable to pay it.
Apart from that, he has also become gambling addict because the excessive activity he does in gambling has become habit that cannot be left behind.
Isn't this very worrying because more and more people are experiencing problems from gambling and they will always have problems that never stop.
Those who have borrowed money to gamble should be able to see the advantages and disadvantages. They should be able to see that the losses will outweigh the benefits so they don't have to do it anymore. They should gamble with their own money rather than borrow money from other people, where when they lose, they have to return the money to someone else. However, there may be gambling addicts who still borrow money from other people to finance their gambling activities because they think that is the best way for them to have money to gamble. Maybe they can win but also lose, depending on their ability and luck. And if they lose more often, they only get into more trouble from borrowing the money. And it is not a solution to continue gambling by borrowing money from other people. If that really happens, the ones who have to bear it are their families and maybe some families have already returned the borrowed money because gambling addicts usually never tell other people if they have borrowed money.

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February 02, 2024, 03:56:54 AM
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Those who have borrowed money to gamble should be able to see the advantages and disadvantages. They should be able to see that the losses will outweigh the benefits so they don't have to do it anymore. They should gamble with their own money rather than borrow money from other people, where when they lose, they have to return the money to someone else.

In most cases, gamblers only see the bright side of the gambling and that is the winning big amount through gambling. They somehow do not consider the other dark side of gambling where they can lose money in the blink of a second too. Keep the expectations high, the gamblers would take the loan thinking that they will for sure win and return the loan easily but in most cases the opposite of this happens. Those gambler not only losses in gambling but at the same time, unable to return the loan too.


However, there may be gambling addicts who still borrow money from other people to finance their gambling activities because they think that is the best way for them to have money to gamble. Maybe they can win but also lose, depending on their ability and luck. And if they lose more often, they only get into more trouble from borrowing the money. And it is not a solution to continue gambling by borrowing money from other people. If that really happens, the ones who have to bear it are their families and maybe some families have already returned the borrowed money because gambling addicts usually never tell other people if they have borrowed money.

Even if the gambling addict hides the fact that he has borrowed the money, sooner or later this will be revealed. As long as the gambler takes the loan and wins and then returns the loan, this can remain a secret but when he is at a loss, then the person who has given him the loan will demand the money from him and if he refuses to payback or delay, he may come to his family members or near ones to enforce him to pay back the loan on time. So it will be a moment of embarrassment for the gambler.

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February 02, 2024, 08:58:30 AM
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In most cases, gamblers only see the bright side of the gambling and that is the winning big amount through gambling. They somehow do not consider the other dark side of gambling where they can lose money in the blink of a second too. Keep the expectations high, the gamblers would take the loan thinking that they will for sure win and return the loan easily but in most cases the opposite of this happens. Those gambler not only losses in gambling but at the same time, unable to return the loan too.
They will not think about the dark side of gambling because other people's wins have covered it that they know about, so they just want to get that win. Yes, they will still think that they can win from gambling and if they gamble because they borrow money, they can return all the borrowed money when they win big. But what happens is not according to what they imagined because gambling will only take all their money without anything left, so they can only regret it because they have lost all their money, including the loan money.

Even if the gambling addict hides the fact that he has borrowed the money, sooner or later this will be revealed. As long as the gambler takes the loan and wins and then returns the loan, this can remain a secret but when he is at a loss, then the person who has given him the loan will demand the money from him and if he refuses to payback or delay, he may come to his family members or near ones to enforce him to pay back the loan on time. So it will be a moment of embarrassment for the gambler.
The person who lends the money will charge the person who borrowed the money. If he doesn't find the person who borrowed the money, they will ask one of his family members so that the loan problem will be known to the people in his house, and that will cause problems for his family. But when the person who borrowed the money can pay back the loan, the person who borrowed the money can still hide the problem of the loan.

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February 02, 2024, 02:59:10 PM
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That's one of my top list that I set for myself, I will never gamble with the money I owed to others or I won't gamble until I have extra money because I have seen or met many different people who experienced bad things in life because they were made to gamble using other people's money. for me, it is one of the things that should not be done to avoid the destruction of life, being in debt is a big damage especially if you don't have the ability to pay after gambling that's why I don't think play and pay later casino will be a norm in gambling world as we know that there's no guarantee of winning in doing gambling.

That's a very thoughtful approach towards gambling. Your commitment to not gambling with money owed to others and having extra funds before participating is commendable. Can you share more about the experiences you've witnessed that led you to make such a decision, and how do you think this mindset can contribute to a responsible gambling culture?

I have this friend of mine who has a business, in which he has co investors and he is the one who handles the money deposited by the people who trusted him, Unfortunately, that person tried to gamble and in an instant, the money suddenly disappeared in his possession, He used the money of the people who trusted him to gamble, so what happened was that he was faced with many problems and debts, and until now that person is still hiding because he does not seem to have anything to show to the people who are looking for him. When I saw what happened to that person, I thought more that people really need a knowledge on the proper way of handling money, we must know how to discipline ourselves especially if we know the possible consequences if we let do things that aren't supposed to do.



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February 02, 2024, 03:27:41 PM
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Those who have borrowed money to gamble should be able to see the advantages and disadvantages. They should be able to see that the losses will outweigh the benefits so they don't have to do it anymore. They should gamble with their own money rather than borrow money from other people, where when they lose, they have to return the money to someone else. However, there may be gambling addicts who still borrow money from other people to finance their gambling activities because they think that is the best way for them to have money to gamble. Maybe they can win but also lose, depending on their ability and luck. And if they lose more often, they only get into more trouble from borrowing the money. And it is not a solution to continue gambling by borrowing money from other people. If that really happens, the ones who have to bear it are their families and maybe some families have already returned the borrowed money because gambling addicts usually never tell other people if they have borrowed money.
There is loss where this loss is an influence on the habit of borrowing money.
Those gamblers who have borrowed money to continue their gambling sessions will clearly have an opportunity or percentage where they are more frequent or bolder in borrowing.
When they are in state of urgency or lack of betting capital, they will use the borrowing option and this is quite significant impact of this attitude.
Gamblers will feel that they are getting it easy and they underestimate the risks of what they are doing, what is worse is that they can have lots of places where they can borrow money and in the end will only be trapped by all the debt.

Obviously borrowing money is not solution but rather an approach to the risks they will face, maybe they are gambling addict and when they decide to borrow some money the problem that arises is not just about addiction but also the problem of debt that must be paid.
They cannot realize everything if they have never encountered or experienced difficulties due to problems that occur as result of such mistakes.

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February 02, 2024, 03:49:23 PM
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The person who lends the money will charge the person who borrowed the money. If he doesn't find the person who borrowed the money, they will ask one of his family members so that the loan problem will be known to the people in his house, and that will cause problems for his family. But when the person who borrowed the money can pay back the loan, the person who borrowed the money can still hide the problem of the loan.
But did you know that lending money to gamblers is very risky because your loan will not be repaid, even though you have lent money to your friend but you have not printed proof of the loan that is legally valid, there is no guarantee that your friend will pay the loan, even if you ask for a loan to his family and his family cannot be used as collateral to guarantee repayment of the loan, unless your friend is an honest and good person who will pay his loan on time.

I have seen similar cases, borrowers will avoid all payment problems and they will even break their friendship with you to avoid loan problems. However, I also give loans to friends but are not tied to gambling purposes and I will help with loans if they need funds for emergency purposes.

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February 02, 2024, 03:56:33 PM
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It's not going to work.

If this implemented in offline casino, it won't be accepted because you're gamble more than what you can afford to lose, a legal offline casino is really strict when it comes to regulation and laws.

If this implemented in online casino, the casino won't survive because there's always people will try to find the loopholes and make the sites rekt. Creating multiple accounts with fake identity is one of the example.

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February 02, 2024, 04:02:27 PM
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But did you know that lending money to gamblers is very risky because your loan will not be repaid, even though you have lent money to your friend but you have not printed proof of the loan that is legally valid, there is no guarantee that your friend will pay the loan, even if you ask for a loan to his family and his family cannot be used as collateral to guarantee repayment of the loan, unless your friend is an honest and good person who will pay his loan on time.

I have seen similar cases, borrowers will avoid all payment problems and they will even break their friendship with you to avoid loan problems. However, I also give loans to friends but are not tied to gambling purposes and I will help with loans if they need funds for emergency purposes.

Typically on loan inside the casino usually have an immediate collateral required to have access to quick loan. Not on a casino but from the loan shark inside. They usually ask for valuable things such jewelry, car key or house title that incorporates quick agreement for the loan. Loan shark works smart now unlike before that they are just using force to protect themselves.

But if you are just talking about the casual loan from person that you knew then of course the reputation is only on the line as collateral for this kind of loan just like how the loaning system works in the forum. It’s not bad to a loan a gambler if he can provide a collateral to cover his loan. Some loan shark inside the casino gain huge profit on this kind of business tho.

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February 02, 2024, 05:33:42 PM
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Typically on loan inside the casino usually have an immediate collateral required to have access to quick loan. Not on a casino but from the loan shark inside. They usually ask for valuable things such jewelry, car key or house title that incorporates quick agreement for the loan. Loan shark works smart now unlike before that they are just using force to protect themselves.

But if you are just talking about the casual loan from person that you knew then of course the reputation is only on the line as collateral for this kind of loan just like how the loaning system works in the forum. It’s not bad to a loan a gambler if he can provide a collateral to cover his loan. Some loan shark inside the casino gain huge profit on this kind of business tho.
I like the lending system of loan sharks even though their side is very profitable but they do not provide loans without collateral, the lending system is similar to pawning in that they will hold goods as collateral for collateral if the borrower cannot repay the loan, but on average borrowers will pawn their belongings because they need more money for betting, yes they are like selling cheap goods to loan sharks.

But some gamblers look for another solution to ask friends for loans because they will give some loans without collateral, but the amount of the loan given will not match the expected amount of money because the gambler does not provide collateral for the lender.

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February 03, 2024, 07:40:29 AM
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There is loss where this loss is an influence on the habit of borrowing money.
Those gamblers who have borrowed money to continue their gambling sessions will clearly have an opportunity or percentage where they are more frequent or bolder in borrowing.
When they are in state of urgency or lack of betting capital, they will use the borrowing option and this is quite significant impact of this attitude.
Gamblers will feel that they are getting it easy and they underestimate the risks of what they are doing, what is worse is that they can have lots of places where they can borrow money and in the end will only be trapped by all the debt.

Obviously borrowing money is not solution but rather an approach to the risks they will face, maybe they are gambling addict and when they decide to borrow some money the problem that arises is not just about addiction but also the problem of debt that must be paid.
They cannot realize everything if they have never encountered or experienced difficulties due to problems that occur as result of such mistakes.
Gamblers who often borrow money may become bolder in borrowing money, but they don't realize that it will only make their debts increase, and they will have difficulty paying their debts. Borrowing money will become a new habit. They will continue to try to get loans from many other people and will not see the total amount of debt from how many people. Those gamblers will underestimate how to repay the borrowed money because they think they can return all the money they borrowed at once when they can win big from gambling. But it will not be as they imagine because in gambling, there are many moments where they will experience losses, which could increase. For this reason, every gambler who still frequently gambles should be able to prevent themselves from borrowing money from other people so that they will encounter difficulties later.

Borrowing money only adds to their burden because they have to pay back the borrowed money, whereas if the borrowed money is used for gambling, they may not necessarily be able to win. And when they lose at gambling, they have no money and will have difficulty paying back their debts. This is a risk that gamblers should know and try to avoid, so they should be able to allocate a certain amount of money for gambling and never borrow money from anyone. Those who have encountered this difficulty should be able to realize their mistake because they have taken a loan from someone else, so they must try to repay the debt first, and then they can make a plan to allocate funds for gambling.

But did you know that lending money to gamblers is very risky because your loan will not be repaid, even though you have lent money to your friend but you have not printed proof of the loan that is legally valid, there is no guarantee that your friend will pay the loan, even if you ask for a loan to his family and his family cannot be used as collateral to guarantee repayment of the loan, unless your friend is an honest and good person who will pay his loan on time.

I have seen similar cases, borrowers will avoid all payment problems and they will even break their friendship with you to avoid loan problems. However, I also give loans to friends but are not tied to gambling purposes and I will help with loans if they need funds for emergency purposes.
Yes, that is a risk that lenders will accept from gamblers because it is unlikely that the gamblers who borrow the money will be able to return the money if they don't win a large amount. We have seen many cases of debts that one friend cannot return to another friend, which makes their friendship uncomfortable. And some involve their families to return the loan money to the lender. If the family can repay the debt, that's fine, but the problem is that many families don't know anything about the debt of one of their family members so the family also finds it difficult to pay the debt.

There have been many cases where money borrowers will always avoid meeting with the lender where the lender is also a friend. Their friendship will no longer be good because of the debt so they will become distant. I will also give loans to my friends if they need funds for emergency needs because I realize that we can be in the same situation so I need to help him when he needs my help.

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February 04, 2024, 11:53:41 AM
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Gamblers who often borrow money may become bolder in borrowing money, but they don't realize that it will only make their debts increase, and they will have difficulty paying their debts. Borrowing money will become a new habit. They will continue to try to get loans from many other people and will not see the total amount of debt from how many people. Those gamblers will underestimate how to repay the borrowed money because they think they can return all the money they borrowed at once when they can win big from gambling. But it will not be as they imagine because in gambling, there are many moments where they will experience losses, which could increase. For this reason, every gambler who still frequently gambles should be able to prevent themselves from borrowing money from other people so that they will encounter difficulties later.

Borrowing money only adds to their burden because they have to pay back the borrowed money, whereas if the borrowed money is used for gambling, they may not necessarily be able to win. And when they lose at gambling, they have no money and will have difficulty paying back their debts. This is a risk that gamblers should know and try to avoid, so they should be able to allocate a certain amount of money for gambling and never borrow money from anyone. Those who have encountered this difficulty should be able to realize their mistake because they have taken a loan from someone else, so they must try to repay the debt first, and then they can make a plan to allocate funds for gambling.
As long as they are not really in debt and faced with problems related to debts that must be paid, they will never be able to have this awareness, especially when there are still places or people who accept them or give them loans.
Obviously people like this will only make themselves worse in the long run, they will only make themselves face complicated matter which I sure is very difficult to resolve because it is related to finances and can multiply according to the interest charged.
But on the other hand, they really underestimate all the problems that can arise and they will think that they will still be able to pay it off if they win, and they have fantasized too much.
Winning is not an achievement that can be easily achieved and relying on gambling to pay off debts or earn money is quite stupid thought.

Just imagine that we all know that gambling can cost lot of money in short time and if they gamble with the money they owe then it is clear that they will spend lot of their debt in gambling.
From here they have an obligation to pay but their income is not commensurate with the amount of money borrowed, in the end they will actually sell valuables just to pay off the debt.

Just like the case that previously occurred in the country I live in, where young man was addicted to gambling and had lot of debt, he sold some of his parents assets to pay the debt and gambling capital.
He works but the results of his work will only be used up in few days on the gambling site whereas he gambles almost every day.

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How would such a casino work? Unless maybe they have an ID on you or something because what if you lose and never show up again? In fact I’d say that such a casino would crash because the money that is used in paying people are the ones that others lose. So if people start paying later, you’ll definitely start paying winners later and that doesn’t make sense. I don’t think such casino exists and if it does, I’d really like to hear how they operate without failing.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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February 04, 2024, 12:17:02 PM
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How would such a casino work? Unless maybe they have an ID on you or something because what if you lose and never show up again? In fact I’d say that such a casino would crash because the money that is used in paying people are the ones that others lose. So if people start paying later, you’ll definitely start paying winners later and that doesn’t make sense. I don’t think such casino exists and if it does, I’d really like to hear how they operate without failing.
There's no casino like that; yes, the concept of play now, pay later could be possible, but in casinos, I don't think there is a site that will offer that kind of service because it's too risky for the owner of the site and also for the gambler. Its risky for the site because the gambler might run away from its debt. Yes,  the casino might put a KYC so that they know who and what the gambler is, but when the time comes that the gambler runs away, it will be a hassle process. They will need to cover expenses for legal actions, and it could affect their business. It could be risky and dangerous to the customer because they could not notice how much debt they are in, and the worst is that they will have the mindset of not being aware of or taking care of their debt as long as they are playing. So this kind of service or concept might be impossible in a casino.

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