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May 21, 2023, 10:39:24 AM
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Instead of someone borrowing money to trade, it's better to start with the capital he has and the money is not used for anything. It will be safer for him, especially if he is still a beginner who wants to try trading. Surely that would make it difficult for him to make a profit.

No one will know when you will be able to profit. Even when the market is good, you can find it difficult to make profits because of greed to take more profits. So it is highly not recommended to borrow money to start trading but if he is really confident in his ability to earn profit, he can try it for a week.

I suggest not taking risks that you may not be able to afford. But if you are able and confident, just try it.

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May 21, 2023, 11:03:43 AM
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I am bringing this to the forum because someone asked me this question. I thought I should share and get more insights. According to the individual, while they were considering loaning about $100-$200 (money they know they can pay back within a month) to start their trading, someone advised them against it. Instead, they were told that all they need to do is to compound $10 instead.

For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?


That will only build the wrong trading habits and unrealistic expectations. Trading 10$ basically means you are undercapitalized and the best thing you can do to make money is to overleverage which is one thing a newbie shouldn't practice. Flipping accounts on the other hand get traders into unrealistic expectations. 10$ to 100$ is +900% of the initial balance.

If you are a newbie, your main focus should be on learning. And you can learn the best on Papertrading. You won't lose any money and you can practice the best habits of a profitable trader.

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May 21, 2023, 12:24:15 PM
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For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

It is not as easy as you think because getting 10x your capital will require a lot of patience, which I am sure a new trader cannot afford to wait for because the money is too small.

Although borrowing money to start your crypto journey is not advisable, instead of going through a lot of patience to raise $100 with $10, I would prefer to borrow some money to start my trading journey and take the little profit I will get as my future capital after paying back the loan.
Borrowing money is not really a bad idea as long as you have a fixed and stable income that will pay for it. And if you are just starting to trade, then always start a small amount that you can easily manage to lose. Although compounding would free you from taking a loan, but be reminded that in trading, there’s no guaranteed profit consistency, regardless if it’s very small, making profits is not that easy especially if you are still trying to manage and control your emotions with the highly volatile market. And it’s hard to tell actually if your patience would be sustainable to wait for that long until your profits become 10x from your capital. The reason why most beginner traders take loans instead than to stick into compounding.

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May 21, 2023, 12:45:49 PM
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For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

Do you realized how long it'll take you to compound $10 into $100 and trading Bitcoin isn't a steady way of generating profits since the market isn't stable. You can make profits and still lose the profits. Compounding works better with investment as you don't have to actively grow your money but it grows for you. If you're investment in Bitcoin and compound your investment, you gain more profits automatically.

If you're looking for an alternative to borrowing, how about selling any of the assets you have available to you to generate capital to start up your trading account. If you don't have any assets then sell the liability you have in your possession as we all have liabilities.

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May 21, 2023, 02:38:06 PM
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For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

Do you realized how long it'll take you to compound $10 into $100 and trading Bitcoin isn't a steady way of generating profits since the market isn't stable. You can make profits and still lose the profits. Compounding works better with investment as you don't have to actively grow your money but it grows for you. If you're investment in Bitcoin and compound your investment, you gain more profits automatically.

If you're looking for an alternative to borrowing, how about selling any of the assets you have available to you to generate capital to start up your trading account. If you don't have any assets then sell the liability you have in your possession as we all have liabilities.

With only $10 as a beginning capital, it will take a long time to generate a profit. There is also the risk that you will lose it and have difficulty paying. Borrowing money to trade is a bad idea because we all know how the market works and how volatile Bitcoin is.
I agree with the idea of selling your possessions or spending your hard-earned money to raise the necessary funds. It is preferable to utilize only funds that we can afford to lose in order to avoid the consequences of borrowing in the future. It would be preferable to trade without fear of not being able to repay our debt because we could concentrate on our primary purpose.
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May 21, 2023, 09:42:43 PM
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Instead of someone borrowing money to trade, it's better to start with the capital he has and the money is not used for anything. It will be safer for him, especially if he is still a beginner who wants to try trading. Surely that would make it difficult for him to make a profit.

No one will know when you will be able to profit. Even when the market is good, you can find it difficult to make profits because of greed to take more profits. So it is highly not recommended to borrow money to start trading but if he is really confident in his ability to earn profit, he can try it for a week.

I suggest not taking risks that you may not be able to afford. But if you are able and confident, just try it.
There’s no reason to borrow if you have a sufficient amount of money in your account that you can manage to lose in trading. However, for some beginners who wish to trade but no capital to start on, then borrowing money is their option. I would say it’s not bad after all as long as you have your job to back up you, to pay for the loan once your trading sucks. But always start with small capital as beginners have more losses to gain than profits to make. On one hand, compounding might be a good idea too for only for those who have high patience to wait for that long even if the expected profits are just too small. It’s just a matter or being patient actually.


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May 22, 2023, 04:35:09 AM
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Instead of someone borrowing money to trade, it's better to start with the capital he has and the money is not used for anything. It will be safer for him, especially if he is still a beginner who wants to try trading. Surely that would make it difficult for him to make a profit.

No one will know when you will be able to profit. Even when the market is good, you can find it difficult to make profits because of greed to take more profits. So it is highly not recommended to borrow money to start trading but if he is really confident in his ability to earn profit, he can try it for a week.

I suggest not taking risks that you may not be able to afford. But if you are able and confident, just try it.
There’s no reason to borrow if you have a sufficient amount of money in your account that you can manage to lose in trading. However, for some beginners who wish to trade but no capital to start on, then borrowing money is their option. I would say it’s not bad after all as long as you have your job to back up you, to pay for the loan once your trading sucks. But always start with small capital as beginners have more losses to gain than profits to make. On one hand, compounding might be a good idea too for only for those who have high patience to wait for that long even if the expected profits are just too small. It’s just a matter or being patient actually.
Everything will depend on how they can return the loan money because, so far, many people have only borrowed but have been delaying paying the loan money. That is why many people have problems borrowing money for business or trading capital.

If they are already working and have a salary, maybe that will be okay because they can set aside part of their salary to pay off the loan. But some still have problems because of the necessities of life that they have to fulfil.

After all, if they lacked expertise in trading, it would also make it difficult for them to make profits. We recommend that before they decide to take a loan, they can calculate everything, including the risks.

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May 22, 2023, 11:57:31 AM
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...For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does...

The figures you mentioned look unrealistic not only for a beginner, but also for an experienced trader. It is simply impossible to get 1000% profit by trading bitcoin without margin. If a beginner will by trade with borrowed funds of the exchange, then his balance will be reset only for the reason that he is a beginner and does not have sufficient trading skills.

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May 22, 2023, 12:36:06 PM
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This alternative you mentioned is not guarantee. Because in order to compound the profit into your capital you have to sell your assets. This means that you have to be consistent and the holding period must be little in order to reach your target quickly. But the thing is that you're not sure that your consistent all the time, we encounter some loses in trading and we have to expect that. And also there's some point that you're getting left behind by the market at the time you sold your asset and it's difficult when to enter again. That's why in my opinion this way is not really working.
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It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
This only gives advantage if you are a long term hodler, like 5-10 years, as compounding will surely work given that long period of time. However, this is not advisable for beginners I think because they are known to be more impatient in the market so the more they will follow this strategy, the bigger chances they will lose more. Except for some professional traders, as borrowing money or even compounding will easily work for them because of their various trading experiences in the market.

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This is somewhat illogical, especially for bitcoin trading, although I advise beginners to start with a little capital to try before starting with good capital, but 10$ is a very small amount and you need a lot of patience and perhaps a year to convert to  100$ in bitcoin trading.

But if you want to try this small amount in shitcoin trading then maybe luck will help you and get X100 in few days. This may be a suitable option for beginners or those who do not have much capital.

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There is no guarantee that you will surely make 100$ by using 10$ because crypto is volatile if there is a chance of getting profit so there is also a chance of lossing it too so we should keep in mind both of these things. In a case if someone win by putting money into certain good coin then just use your profit for further achievement but don't put profit plus own money as it will be completely risky. Taking laon in my opinion is not a suitable choice for enhancing money but its something more risky than using your own money.









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It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
This kind of thing is intended for suicide, making money in trading is not easy for a beginner, except maybe using cunning or deceitful methods by taking advantage of loopholes in trading programs.
but it's true, from a capital of $ 10 to get a profit of $ 50+ or $ 100 is not an easy thing to do.
It should be yes, when a trade is profitable it is better to keep half of the profit and the other half to continue trading, it may be more effective to prevent losses when not making a profit while trading.
Having targets like that is good in trading so that we have certain limits and guard against greed when trading, but usually with small capital it is very difficult to get sizable profits, unless you do it in future trades.

For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.
This means to me that a new trader should always be patient and not be in a hurry to trade with big amounts. New traders should not borrow a huge amount of money to finance their trading because it can easily be lost. As a new trader, you should start small if you do not have enough money to start big. Even though it is not advisable to borrow funds to finance your trading, it is worse for a new trader to do so than an old trader. If you must borrow to trade, it has to be at a stage where you are very sure of your trading, that is of course after gathering experience. If you are a trader with no experience, avoid borrowing money to trade with.
Borrowing money for the first time trading is the stupidest thing, I agree with you that it will be really detrimental, even a person who has studied for more than 3 months is full of his own money, he does not find consistent profits from his trading, it's too risky if forced, don't think too easily about profits and don't take it easy to become a trader who can produce consistently.

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May 22, 2023, 08:35:26 PM
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Instead of someone borrowing money to trade, it's better to start with the capital he has and the money is not used for anything. It will be safer for him, especially if he is still a beginner who wants to try trading. Surely that would make it difficult for him to make a profit.

No one will know when you will be able to profit. Even when the market is good, you can find it difficult to make profits because of greed to take more profits. So it is highly not recommended to borrow money to start trading but if he is really confident in his ability to earn profit, he can try it for a week.

I suggest not taking risks that you may not be able to afford. But if you are able and confident, just try it.
Borrowing money is mostly common for those who aim to trade and earn significant profits in the latter part. But is this really advisable? For me, if you do have the means to start trading with your own hard-earned money, then do it with a minimal amount. Borrowing is only advisable for those who already have expertise in trading so they have high chances to make it work. However, if we take the side of compounding, I’m afraid it will only make us lose more even the profits from our previous trades. It may work but mostly, it could add burden into your finances.

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I am bringing this to the forum because someone asked me this question. I thought I should share and get more insights. According to the individual, while they were considering loaning about $100-$200 (money they know they can pay back within a month) to start their trading, someone advised them against it. Instead, they were told that all they need to do is to compound $10 instead.

For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

Allocate an amount which is something that you would really be able to afford to lose first specially when you are just starting on trading on being a complete noob. Dont mind first about making profits
or whatsoever correlation to it because it would really be just giving you that mindset and feeling that you should really be in a rush. Dont think this is some sort of sprint or whose really be going
to be profitable on fastest way but rather this is a marathon which we would be thinking that sustaining yourself should really be the goal.

$10 or $100 as a start up then it would be your choice. Find that trading method which suits out yourself because not all would really be just the same when it comes into their trading preferences.
There are people who do love short trades and there are ones who do love swings and there are ones who do love to scalp. Find out which
one would really be able to hit up you on the spot.

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resort to selling your unnecessary asset, if you truly willing to make some good money out of it, borrowing money is not the solution, it will just add the burden to you and will also cause you to be stressed.

and if you are stressed god knows how big of an impact it will have to your well being and emotion in which could also affect the way you trades and might cause you to incur losses.

never ever borrow money for something that's still unclear, but it's fine to just sell some asset, and then later shell out some bucks for trading, just in case if you can earn some good profit out of it. you can always shell out

some additional money to back it up and help it grow faster.

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May 23, 2023, 09:08:58 AM
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If you must borrow to trade, it has to be at a stage where you are very sure of your trading, that is of course after gathering experience.
Even if you are a very good trader, you do not know when the market will be unfavourable, that is why you should not borrow money to trade. Trade with small amount of money that you are capable of using to trade.

With only $10 as a beginning capital, it will take a long time to generate a profit. There is also the risk that you will lose it and have difficulty paying. Borrowing money to trade is a bad idea because we all know how the market works and how volatile Bitcoin is.
Very bad an idea to borrow money for trading. The thinking that you borrow money will not let you trade appropriately, given the trader a bad mindset.

$10 should be for having knowledge and experience about how trading works. It is truly small for trading. But good to mention that we should trade with the amount that we are capable of losing.

I agree with the idea of selling your possessions or spending your hard-earned money to raise the necessary funds.
I can not sell my possession because of trading and I can not encourage anyone to do that either.

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There is no guarantee that you will surely make 100$ by using 10$ because crypto is volatile if there is a chance of getting profit so there is also a chance of losing it too so we should keep in mind both of these things. In a case if someone win by putting money into certain good coin then just use your profit for further achievement but don't put profit plus own money as it will be completely risky. Taking loan in my opinion is not a suitable choice for enhancing money but its something more risky than using your own money.









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May 23, 2023, 09:46:49 AM
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According to the individual, while they were considering loaning about $100-$200 (money they know they can pay back within a month) to start their trading, someone advised them against it.
I quite agree that's it's not a good idea to get a loan to fund trading. However, if the borrower has a mean to pay back that loan within a month, I would advise them to take the loan. It will fast track the trading process. I'm one who don't believe in keeping money in the bank while there's an investment to use it for. The idea of compounding $10 isn't a wise one, considering that the profit margin of such a small capital will be infinitesimal and may even take weeks of unnecessary stress trading to get up to $200. Given both scenarios, I will pick the loan option.

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May 23, 2023, 10:36:13 AM
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I'm not aware of any other ways to get started with your cryptocurrency journey without taking out a loan.
I believe that rather of taking out a loan, you should set aside money from your savings or make a budget just for trading. You avoid debt by using your own funds in this manner. Another choice is a DCA, which, if you heard and understood, is the ideal choice because it entails consistently investing a specific sum of money, such as $10, at predetermined intervals, independent of the asset's price. You can average out the purchase price over time by buying cryptocurrencies consistently, which may allow you to profit from market swings.
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