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May 24, 2023, 09:59:28 PM
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It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
You’re right with this. Compounding is not as easy as it is unlike OP says. It takes a lot of patience of waiting for positive outcome, and you could just end up ruining all your profits if you stick to this idea. Taking a loan on the other side is not advisable too, once your trades lose, then you will struggle for sure on how to pay for your loan. Good thing if you have a job to pay for it, but even so, I would not suggest new traders to take a loan and trade. Just save and when you’ve got enough funds that you can afford to lose, then you can start your luck in trading.

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May 24, 2023, 10:44:21 PM
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It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
You’re right with this. Compounding is not as easy as it is unlike OP says. It takes a lot of patience of waiting for positive outcome, and you could just end up ruining all your profits if you stick to this idea. Taking a loan on the other side is not advisable too, once your trades lose, then you will struggle for sure on how to pay for your loan. Good thing if you have a job to pay for it, but even so, I would not suggest new traders to take a loan and trade. Just save and when you’ve got enough funds that you can afford to lose, then you can start your luck in trading.
The thing here is that not all does have the patience for them to wait until they do have that enough funds for them trade on, because on the time that they would really be able to see on what are the benefits of doing trading then it would be that impossible that for you not to have that kind of interest kicking in or spark up and you would really be liking to test it right away without even trying out to remind yourself that it isnt something that not risky to deal off with but rather its the opposite. Compounding is really indeed possible but its true that this one would really be taking lots of time and effort before you could be able to reach out that certain state.

Borrowing or taking a loan is never been recommendable, as much as possible you should really be providing your own capital out of your earnings or income but of course it would  really be just that a small amount
or something that you could afford to lose because trading isnt really a guaranteed profit on the time that you would engage because we know that trading is never been that so simple.

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May 24, 2023, 10:54:39 PM
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For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.
Compounding certainly feels like a good idea, not one of the worst but much more better than the taking a loan. Although, it makes certain requirements of you, that you be good in your trades enough to make the profits you need from a $10 trading capital to be the equivalent of your desired capital for starting trading. J don't know how that is doable but, you could try!
It would take a professional trader with minimal mistakes or trading errors to come by such mistake and many more than most would often have a trading capital more than a $100 to trade with.

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May 25, 2023, 03:11:17 AM
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You should be aware of how good your ability to trade first before you decide to borrow money because many of us don't recommend it. If your skills in trading are good enough and you can analyze the market well, maybe borrowing money to trade will be a good decision so you can do it. But if not, you don't need to borrow money and should keep learning more about trading so that you have your skills ready the next time you want to borrow money. It will not make it difficult for you to make a profit to pay off the loan. And you already know that trading takes time because market conditions are not always good, especially now that market conditions are bearish.

Honestly avoiding loans for trading purposes is recommended, but someone can get loans for his investment plans if the timing is right. The problem is that everyone has to consider all the risks involved in investing, including security and price volatility, even if they can guarantee regular payments of their monthly income/salary, the risks must be considered.

The OP offers an option that looks like saving $10 over a period of time instead of making a $100 loan. I agree with his investment strategy which may also look the same as accumulating a budget and doing DCAing on the assets he chooses. This of course can avoid the risk of bad loans, but of course some of them can also get loans for their investments.
Most people don't consider the risk and just fill out a form to borrow the money so they can't see how much risk they can take later. And they should be able to manage their finances better than their salary because they can channel it to meet their living needs, while they can also prepare a certain amount of money to pay off the loan every month if they end up taking out a loan.

I prefer to do DCA by saving $10 in bitcoin instead of borrowing $100 because by doing so, we can reduce the risk of repaying the loan. Apart from that, he doesn't need to think about unnecessary loans and only focuses on raising more Bitcoin through that DCA.

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May 25, 2023, 06:20:39 AM
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I am bringing this to the forum because someone asked me this question. I thought I should share and get more insights. According to the individual, while they were considering loaning about $100-$200 (money they know they can pay back within a month) to start their trading, someone advised them against it. Instead, they were told that all they need to do is to compound $10 instead.

For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

I actually don't agree with the borrowing system to start a trade, whether it's in crypto assets or trading in other assets. Although this opinion is certainly a lot of people who agree, but surely there are also people who do not agree with my opinion. Because borrowing money to trade in crypto, I'm sure many will agree, that this is very risky. Especially in crypto that is not bitcoin (altcoin), it will definitely be very high risk. But that doesn't mean that people who borrow money to trade in crypto will all end badly. Because not a few people do this and get benefits. But it's just, doing so comes with a much bigger risk, than trading with cold money. So borrowing money to invest in crypto, is actually an option, when you really don't have capital, or you want to increase your capital to trade crypto, and doing this is definitely not in a safe zone.

And if I am asked to choose, borrow money to increase capital, or trade with the money that I have, I will definitely choose to trade in crypto with sober capital money. Even though it takes a lot of patience to make a profit, the most important thing is that I'm in a safe zone.

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May 25, 2023, 07:31:17 AM
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For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

For newbies?? Are you sure about that?
Do you think that newbies can make their 10$ into 100$? Do you think that they can make their initial capital x10 knowing that they're just newbies.

I'm not saying that newbies have the same experience, but when I was a newbie, I'm very prone to FOMO's, and pump and dumps. It's because I was a newbie at that time, and I don't know anything about technical analysis, or trade base on what are the latest news. I'm pretty sure that newbies can't do that easily, so don't daydream.

Well, trading for 10$ as a newbie is a good way to kickstart your trading journey already, but don't expect to have good results on that one. Most of the time, you will incur losses because of you lacking of experience. Is there any alternatives that I know? Maybe just work harder, earn more money, and use that money to trade. I don't recommend borrowing money just to trade as well unless that loan can be paid within a month or 2.

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For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

For newbies?? Are you sure about that?
Do you think that newbies can make their 10$ into 100$? Do you think that they can make their initial capital x10 knowing that they're just newbies.

I'm not saying that newbies have the same experience, but when I was a newbie, I'm very prone to FOMO's, and pump and dumps. It's because I was a newbie at that time, and I don't know anything about technical analysis, or trade base on what are the latest news. I'm pretty sure that newbies can't do that easily, so don't daydream.

Well, trading for 10$ as a newbie is a good way to kickstart your trading journey already, but don't expect to have good results on that one. Most of the time, you will incur losses because of you lacking of experience. Is there any alternatives that I know? Maybe just work harder, earn more money, and use that money to trade. I don't recommend borrowing money just to trade as well unless that loan can be paid within a month or 2.
As a beginner, of course you need to be realistic and don't expect to make profits many times over,
this is crypto where the risk is very big and it takes a lot of experience to trade or invest,
it's better to focus on learning both knowledge and skills I think it's much more important.
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I agree with the idea of selling your possessions or spending your hard-earned money to raise the necessary funds. It is preferable to utilize only funds that we can afford to lose in order to avoid the consequences of borrowing in the future. It would be preferable to trade without fear of not being able to repay our debt because we could concentrate on our primary purpose.

Yes that's the truth, If you're finding it difficult to get capital, selling your liability is just one solution and you can also sell some assets as sacrifice to get capital to start up. At the end it'll be worth it. You can raise enough profits that you can buy back all you sold to rise that capital. When you use your personal funds as capital you don't get yourself under pressure.

If you lose all the money, you don't have to pay anyone and you learn a lesson form that experience although you'll be very careful because you know what it took you to to raise that capital that you're using now to trade. Borrowing money to trade is a very wrong way to start.

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May 25, 2023, 05:14:21 PM
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We should never in any way think of borrowing money from people just to satisfy our curiosity of getting into trade when we know that we don't have the fund to sustain usbif we finally lose the money that we are using to trade. Trading is very risky so we should not borrow money from any source and trade since the market so we cam trade when we can try and hustle and make some cash so we can use it to trade the market and make some funds that we can use to to trade bigger in the market without having any problems.
Borrowing money just to trade is indeed risky, especially if trading knowledge doesn't really understand and only capitalize on other people's words. Not recommended for borrowing. it is better to trade with the ability of the funds you have. When you have to borrow, you really have to be aware of the bills that will be paid every month and the ongoing interest. if you don't profit from trading, it will be an additional burden and will pay you nothing.
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May 25, 2023, 07:15:37 PM
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Borrowing money just to trade is indeed risky, especially if trading knowledge doesn't really understand and only capitalize on other people's words. Not recommended for borrowing. it is better to trade with the ability of the funds you have. When you have to borrow, you really have to be aware of the bills that will be paid every month and the ongoing interest. if you don't profit from trading, it will be an additional burden and will pay you nothing.
As some users have said, making loans for trading purposes is a high risk as long as they are not experienced traders and experts in their field. In fact, I believe an expert in trading will also be very overwhelmed adjusting his trading strategy when prices don't move in the direction they analyze, so the risk of bad loans plus trading losses will only make the trader's psychology worse.

Without a loan trading budget should also be considered a high risk activity. Price volatility is very erratic because prices can move in both directions unexpectedly. Market trends can change in a short time even in the last 24 hours the price has shown a positive side.

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May 25, 2023, 07:27:36 PM
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Its not easy imagine earn profit consistency every day 10$ or 10% from borrowing money with $100, I don't sure has chance for OP or beginner when using option take borrowing for investing or trading in cryptocurrency. Seems huge expectation with profit 10% every day in cryptocurrency because price of bitcoin not stable and moment drop drastically need longer time for recovering.

I don't sure with your ideas exactly sharing to newbie for borrowing money and investing in Bitcoin, not guarantee in daily day profit and difficult for them how to payback with borrowing money when price drop. Better learn step by step about cryptocurrency investment or want to trade in some altcoin assets before borrowing money with higher risk waiting for how to pay back and has loan interest.

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May 25, 2023, 09:07:39 PM
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It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
And even we have patience but can't take it longer as it takes several months, and later on, we still give up trading.
Well, the best thing I see is to wait to have enough capital before starting trading. Because $10 is nothing, what we can buy from that is just shitcoins, maybe $50 is a little bit better. Not that I suggest OP take a loan but I think that is the best option as long as we also have another source of income when in case our trades fail, we are still able to repay it.

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May 25, 2023, 09:42:34 PM
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It is not easy to use $10 to make $100 in trading, even if you gain and include the profit in the next trading or position your opened. One of the disadvantages of this is that once there is loss, it would be more because the profit is included. I see this as a way to greediness and a way to lose.

If you want to trade, you have to gain and set aside your profit, or you can set aside some of your profit which you will not be using for trading.
And even we have patience but can't take it longer as it takes several months, and later on, we still give up trading.
Well, the best thing I see is to wait to have enough capital before starting trading. Because $10 is nothing, what we can buy from that is just shitcoins, maybe $50 is a little bit better. Not that I suggest OP take a loan but I think that is the best option as long as we also have another source of income when in case our trades fail, we are still able to repay it.
We are humans which we do really have that different level of patience on which we could neither do wait up for too long or we would really be just liking to see some immediate result or outcome on a short time.

This is actually according into your own risks management on which if you dont have the money to start up on trading  or you wont like for it to be small then you could always opt on taking up a loan but of course you should really be that responsible on repaying back in time if you wont like for possible problems. The difference on using up your own money is that on the time that it would lost, you are the ones who would lost money and there's no responsibility that you would be needing to solve on, unlike when you do take up some loans and if in case you had lost a trade then you would really be still needing
to pay it up or simply there's no exemptions into that.

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May 25, 2023, 09:56:28 PM
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I wonder why many prople are considering to start borrowing money to invest in cryptocurrency. This is high risk. Do they always think that investing in crypto will always earn much money? It is probably. But what kind of obstacles and ptoblems to meet if using money from the loans to invest. Moreover if we must pay the debt monthly. This will be high risk. It means that we force to invest more than we can afford, doesn't it?

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May 25, 2023, 10:20:04 PM
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The reason why nobody lends any money to traders is because since they are asking for a loan means they don’t know how to trade. Since they don’t know how to trade they will lose that money and won’t pay you back.


As funny as this sounds, it is accurate because it is humanly expected that when one request a loan to start a trade, it should start making profit after the launch.
Most businesses mostly those involving trade, might take time to mature and start yielding profit. This is however not thought about.
Also there's the case of if the trader has done any business or trade before or has done a similar line of trading before this.

For those who think to take out a loan and start a business or trade is practical, keep in mind the duration to payback, because within this time, so many factors and variables will be at play.

The other alternatives may include one getting a job or part time hustle to save up for a duration.
Could make a formal plan on how to succeed in the trade, incase a likely loaner who might be a friend decides to help.
Ask yourself if you have collateral equivalent incase the loan can't be easily paid back.
Try loan apps or join a group cooperative where the members know themselves and contribute a certain quota to help themselves incase such need arises.

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May 26, 2023, 03:47:46 AM
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I am bringing this to the forum because someone asked me this question. I thought I should share and get more insights. According to the individual, while they were considering loaning about $100-$200 (money they know they can pay back within a month) to start their trading, someone advised them against it. Instead, they were told that all they need to do is to compound $10 instead.

For newbies, compounding a $10 crypto trading investment means reinvesting the profit from your initial $10 capital in the same asset, such as bitcoin, to generate an increase in returns over time. So the $10 may compound over time, and you can get $100 in returns. It requires patience, just as trading does.

This is the best alternative to loaning money to kickstart your trading journey. What are the other alternatives you know?

Borrowing money to begin your journey should never be an option, in a way I understand that someone that is just discovering the market now is excited about the possibility of making money with bitcoin.

But this is not the way to go about this, and there are several reasons for that, to begin with the rate of success for new traders is very low, also this attitude will foment impulsive behavior as you are trying to earn more money than what you could earn under normal circumstances, and finally you will affect your finances which could delay even further your reentry point to this market as you will have to pay the debts in which you incurred.
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May 26, 2023, 05:37:20 AM
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I wonder why many prople are considering to start borrowing money to invest in cryptocurrency. This is high risk. Do they always think that investing in crypto will always earn much money? It is probably. But what kind of obstacles and ptoblems to meet if using money from the loans to invest. Moreover if we must pay the debt monthly. This will be high risk. It means that we force to invest more than we can afford, doesn't it?
That's because they think that borrowing money can provide the fastest solution to having money so they can immediately invest in crypto. They did that because some of their friends could make a lot of money investing in crypto, so they thought it was easy.

But if they can think and research in more detail, it will never be easy and they even risk losing if they can't find a coin to invest. They also have to think about how they can return all the loan money every month or later within a certain period.

Hopefully, those who haven't borrowed money can think more about the pros, cons, and risks they will face. And if they have convinced themselves that borrowing money is a path they can take and are ready to take the risk, they can borrow money and start investing in crypto.

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May 26, 2023, 08:42:30 AM
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For newbies?? Are you sure about that?
Do you think that newbies can make their 10$ into 100$? Do you think that they can make their initial capital x10 knowing that they're just newbies.

I'm not saying that newbies have the same experience, but when I was a newbie, I'm very prone to FOMO's, and pump and dumps. It's because I was a newbie at that time, and I don't know anything about technical analysis, or trade base on what are the latest news. I'm pretty sure that newbies can't do that easily, so don't daydream.

Well, trading for 10$ as a newbie is a good way to kickstart your trading journey already, but don't expect to have good results on that one. Most of the time, you will incur losses because of you lacking of experience. Is there any alternatives that I know? Maybe just work harder, earn more money, and use that money to trade. I don't recommend borrowing money just to trade as well unless that loan can be paid within a month or 2.
A newbie should never take a loan or borrow money only to start his trading career because that is a big mistake. Someone who doesn't know anything about trading has never done it, doesn't even know much about the markets and their behaviors, that person will only need to learn the things at first, I wouldn't even recommend investing $10 but training and learning should be done using demo accounts.

One of the most important aspects of trading is patience, someone who doesn't have that can never get successful in trading because when you get into trading, there will be a lot of occasions where you will need to be patient and don't take hasty decisions.

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May 26, 2023, 08:56:15 PM
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A newbie should never take a loan or borrow money only to start his trading career because that is a big mistake. Someone who doesn't know anything about trading has never done it, doesn't even know much about the markets and their behaviors, that person will only need to learn the things at first, I wouldn't even recommend investing $10 but training and learning should be done using demo accounts.

One of the most important aspects of trading is patience, someone who doesn't have that can never get successful in trading because when you get into trading, there will be a lot of occasions where you will need to be patient and don't take hasty decisions.
Most of the time people do not realize how difficult something is until they try their hands at it, many newbies begin to trade the markets without using a demo account first, this gives them a false idea that trading is incredibly easy, if they instead took the time to trade the markets with a demo account they will soon realize they are in the red most of the time, and this could be an eye opener for them as they will understand that trading is way more difficult and they need to make a huge effort before they get to see any profits.
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May 26, 2023, 10:12:28 PM
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For newbies?? Are you sure about that?
Do you think that newbies can make their 10$ into 100$? Do you think that they can make their initial capital x10 knowing that they're just newbies.

I'm not saying that newbies have the same experience, but when I was a newbie, I'm very prone to FOMO's, and pump and dumps. It's because I was a newbie at that time, and I don't know anything about technical analysis, or trade base on what are the latest news. I'm pretty sure that newbies can't do that easily, so don't daydream.

Well, trading for 10$ as a newbie is a good way to kickstart your trading journey already, but don't expect to have good results on that one. Most of the time, you will incur losses because of you lacking of experience. Is there any alternatives that I know? Maybe just work harder, earn more money, and use that money to trade. I don't recommend borrowing money just to trade as well unless that loan can be paid within a month or 2.
A newbie should never take a loan or borrow money only to start his trading career because that is a big mistake. Someone who doesn't know anything about trading has never done it, doesn't even know much about the markets and their behaviors, that person will only need to learn the things at first, I wouldn't even recommend investing $10 but training and learning should be done using demo accounts.

One of the most important aspects of trading is patience, someone who doesn't have that can never get successful in trading because when you get into trading, there will be a lot of occasions where you will need to be patient and don't take hasty decisions.
Its never been recommendable even if you aren't a newbie because we do know on what are the imposed risks if we do take a loan? We do know that we do have some responsibility which we do need to be dealing off with and if you are someone who isnt really that financially sustainable or something capable then its better to avoid on getting a loan as much as possible. Unless if you are really that able to repay it on time or simply we do talk about on being a good payor then it wouldnt really be an issue but if not then better not to proceed because you would really be just making yourself that miserable.
This is why as much as possible it would really be that better if we dont really take any loans or whatsoever on starting up on our trading journey because this would really be involving lots of trials and errors
on which it would really be that sensible that using up a loaned money is never been that a good idea.

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