Crimes of signatures campaign affects forum?

[Accardo]

I observed that it affects the member, reading people's responses. Meaning that every internet advertiser should be held responsible, if any project they promote commits any crime. It'll reduce scam projects on the internet, but how can people predict the future. A business that started up fine and legit can turn a scam business later. Members here frown at promoting any crime business, any found guilty will come to a hurt. Or, reported, if they don't stop promoting the project and exposed to everyone's notice that such a project is scam. Since we are not direct employees of the projects promoted here, no relationship exist between us, the company won't be affected if you commit a crime too.

[Bushdark]

I have taught of this seriously and I began to have a biased concern to bitcointalk if any signatures campaigns in bitcointalk can affects the existence of bitcointalk if they commit a crime that leads to government investigations. Secondly do we believe that bitcointalk can  be obstructed by government if their is a noticeable crime by the management? From my understanding it seems to me that bitcoin existence is different from the bitcointalk forum and without the existence of bitcointalk forum bitcoin will continue existing, what's your take on this.
This idea came to me through what happened to the site of bitcointalk few days ago which I couldn't logins my account for sometimes, I wasn't happy when the incident occur. Please I asked this few questions because I want to know what I don't know, and if my question is not ideal please don't crucify me.

The government can decided to do whatever they like and indirectly they can even commit crime without any jurisdiction supporting it. Bitcointalk had been a safe place for people from different regions to come and seek whatever information they are interested in. If anything happens to this forum which had been a backbone on learning and making enquiry about what Bitcoin really entails then it could affects the Crypto market and the price of Bitcoin. We just hope that something like that do not happen because it is going to be disappointing with effect that can cause fud making people to sell there coins.

[tranthidung]

I don't think the government has anything to do with the forum. Signature Campaigns promote their business here. People are just selling their signature space. That's it. A lot of media advertising illegal things. The forum is doing nothing compared to them. Even I believe the forum has nothing to do with the Signature campaigns or a 3rd party company.

Not true.

If they could summon Facebook, Twitter CEOs to the Congress, they can do the same with theymos. In the past, theymos received a subpoena after the Silk Road event. I believe that we can not exclude anything and what theymos did weeks ago, after the Chipmixer seizure is his serious preventive solution to avoid something he does not want for him and this forum.

However, I believe it is not a most serious thing he can do as his preventive management.

DPR Subpoena (you might be surprised). 

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

I have taught of this seriously and I began to have a biased concern to bitcointalk if any signatures campaigns in bitcointalk can affects the existence of bitcointalk if they commit a crime that leads to government investigations.

That's not possible because the forum is a platform for bitcoin discussion and any member that is found with such bad behavioral conduct is tagged red and that's why you discover some campaigns or members account tagged if they partake in any form of scam, also you can see that all the forum staff were asked not to join any form of mixing campaign on the forum in other not to make them a promoter of something that government will term as scam against the forum and since the forum as well stated it clear not to be responsible for any scam associated offenses coming from any member, the best it can do was to tag such individual as well red.

Secondly do we believe that bitcointalk can  be obstructed by government if their is a noticeable crime by the management?

Who are the management board of we are to say, we have Theymos the admin, forum staffs and moderators and i don't think anything of such can come out through their corner because they have been trusted by most of the reputable members of the community as well and we can also attest to their fare just in handling things, to me they are reliable and upto task.

From my understanding it seems to me that bitcoin existence is different from the bitcointalk forum and without the existence of bitcointalk forum bitcoin will continue existing, what's your take on this.

There was first the creation of bitcoin then the idea came about engaging people to discuss about bitcoin across the world on a single platform and bitcointalk.org comes in place, since the website of this forum and everything about the ownership is within the control of the admin and cobra that monitors the site, we are not to be afraid of the hosting challenge to the web address because it's bee controlled by the two aforementioned persons, which means no government can regulate, attack or lockdown the forum and bitcoin remains and same is the forum.

[Franctoshi]

Honestly I felt so bad with the recent campaign that ended to be a scam, However we learn everyday from our past and present mistakes and experiences and adjust with the way handle things in the future, But in a situation like this and as time goes on I guess proper measures might be in place to scrutinize this companies coming to advise here in the forum in order to get rid of a possible scam projects coming here to advertise in the future that may paint the forum's name so bad.

[KingsDen]

Honestly I felt so bad with the recent campaign that ended to be a scam, However we learn everyday from our past and present mistakes and experiences and adjust with the way handle things in the future, But in a situation like this and as time goes on I guess proper measures might be in place to scrutinize this companies coming to advise here in the forum in order to get rid of a possible scam projects coming here to advertise in the future that may paint the forum's name so bad.

Do not expect that there will be a time that the whole cryptocurrency industry and the forum will become scam free.
No, it will never happen. Cryptocurrency has his nature surrounded by scam. So all we need to do is to be very vigilant and continue to burst the scammers. If the scammers come today with one method, you should not allow them to use same method to scam for the second day. We should always be proactive, that is the only way to mitigate scam as they cannot totally be eradicated in the cryptocurrency industry
As some genuine team members are brainstorming how to make good projects for the betterment of the community. The scammers are also brainstorming how to rip people of their had earned money, that is just the reality and we must accept it.

[skarais]

Honestly I felt so bad with the recent campaign that ended to be a scam, However we learn everyday from our past and present mistakes and experiences and adjust with the way handle things in the future, But in a situation like this and as time goes on I guess proper measures might be in place to scrutinize this companies coming to advise here in the forum in order to get rid of a possible scam projects coming here to advertise in the future that may paint the forum's name so bad.

I think reputation of managers tend to provide a sense of security for potential participants so that they no longer bother checking the background of the project behind the advertised campaign. Confirming that it is one of the legit projects or potentially scam or exit scam can only be done with due diligence on their background both on forums and on google. Some information about them will surely be found instead of relying only on the manager's reputation and payout rate.

I know there are some projects that seem legitimate at first but only act up after they've been going on for a few weeks. It will also not be fully detected even if we do research. Finally things like extra consideration before joining are also important, so always increase your vigilance and be safe for yourself and others.

[roksana.hee]

I have taught of this seriously and I began to have a biased concern to bitcointalk if any signatures campaigns in bitcointalk can affects the existence of bitcointalk if they commit a crime that leads to government investigations. Secondly do we believe that bitcointalk can  be obstructed by government if their is a noticeable crime by the management? From my understanding it seems to me that bitcoin existence is different from the bitcointalk forum and without the existence of bitcointalk forum bitcoin will continue existing, what's your take on this.

This text much important for this forum users to recognize that Bitcoin's existence is separate from the Bitcointalk forum. When government investigations into signature campaigns on Bitcointalk may have consequences, they won't directly impact the existence of Bitcoin. The existence of Bitcoin is not dependent on the Bitcointalk forum or its management. Even if the forum faces obstructions or legal issues due to the actions of its management, Bitcoin as a decentralized digital currency will continue to exist and function independently. Its operation is not tied to any specific platform or forum.

This idea came to me through what happened to the site of bitcointalk few days ago which I couldn't logins my account for sometimes, I wasn't happy when the incident occur.

The recent login issue on Bitcointalk is separate from these larger considerations.

Please I asked this few questions because I want to know what I don't know, and if my question is not ideal please don't crucify me.

Asking questions to learn is always encouraged, so no need to worry about any negative response.

[Onyeeze]

I can see that what to discuss In this thread has finish and people are forcing themselves to discuss, reading almost the page response from different persons,  their suggestions is becoming similar, so repeating what another person has said is like spamming the thread, if I noticed such similar discussions again I will lock the thread because since someone has made such opinion in same thread that means making same opinion is of no use.

[bettercrypto]

I don't think bitcointalk will be a waste of any government's time. Just think for more than 10 years, is there any news of any country government questioning the bitcointalk forum from then to the future? Isn't there nothing, Because literally if you look at the bitcointalk platform as a newbie you will not really be attracted, because it looks boring, that's what will immediately come to mind. This forum is for people who love to read and learn about bitcoin, cryptocurrency and others related to it.

Then it's not like Facebook, Youtube, Instagram and others that you can earn easily. Also, participating in the signatures campaign is still your choice because no one will dictate to you here. And what I like here is that everyone is anonymous.