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May 22, 2023, 09:23:55 AM
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I was looking if someone has already posted this news and it was posted through Hotbit's twitter account a few hours ago.

It's time to take a bow 🙇
For 5 years and 4 months, the Hotbit team has been proud to participate in a wonderful crypto show with 5 million users. However, it is with great regret that we have made the decision to stop all CEX operations from May 22, UTC 04:00. We kindly ask all users to withdraw their remaining assets before June 21, UTC 04:00.

For any questions, please contact us viahttps://hotbit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

This decision is based on three reasons: please check this announcement link for more detalis: https://hotbit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/14750194236823

Those that has got funds there have 1 month to withdraw it. And for those that want to know the reasons for it, you can just go directly to their link. Don't worry it's safe and it's from them.

We saw the pattern from the other exchanges that have shut their operations. As said on one reason, about hard dealing with regulations from the government.

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This wasn't even caused by regulations.

freezing assets and not giving any transparency to their customers will totally kill any platform.

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May 22, 2023, 09:49:51 AM
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They gave a only one month to withdraw funds from there, announcing on his blog and Twitter. I don't read their blog, nor do I follow their Twitter account, yet I didn't receive any email notification about this closing of the business.


I guess this is the reasoning behind this decision

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Dear Hotbit users,

For 5 years and 4 months, the Hotbit team has been proud to participate in a wonderful crypto show with 5 million users. However, it is with great regret that we have made the decision to stop all CEX operations from May 22, UTC 04:00. We kindly ask all users to withdraw their remaining assets before June 21, UTC 04:00.

This decision is based on three reasons:

Firstly, the deterioration of the operating conditions. After the Hotbit management team was forced to suspend operations for several weeks due to the investigation in August 2022 (https://hotbit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/8074249353495), the industry has experienced a series of crises, including the collapse of FTX, bank crises causing USDC off-peg incidents, resulting in continuous outflows of funds from CEX users, including Hotbit, and deteriorating cash flow.
Secondly, the change in the crypto industry trend. The successive collapse of large centralized institutions has led the industry to gradually in two ways: either embrace the regulation or become more decentralized. The Hotbit team believes that centralized exchanges (CEX) are becoming increasingly cumbersome, with highly complex and interconnected businesses that are difficult to comply with, whether for compliance or decentralization, and are unlikely to meet long-term trends.
Since its beginning, Hotbit has been characterized by providing a rich variety of assets and value-added methods. Hotbit was the first exchange to list numerous emerging assets, including SHIB, KSM, GRIN and so on, and was the first to offer staking services starting from ATOM, as well as the first to conduct Defi mining business using Compound. However, due to the industry's uncertainty, various opportunities also contain many risks. Hotbit has also suffered numerous problems, such as repeated cyber attacks and the exploitation of project defects by malicious users, resulting in significant losses. Therefore, the Hotbit team believes that the operation model of supporting a diverse range of assets is unsustainable from a risk management standpoint.
That’s all, with so many joys and tears, our show is over. We want to say thank you and take a bow now. We still believe a bright future about crypto innovation and some of us will still fight for it.

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May 22, 2023, 01:49:23 PM
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Hé hé, another exchange closing the doors and blaming someone else Roll Eyes

- They're blaming (mainly) the regulations too hard to follow:
If they were really convinced with their business, it was only a matter to change your location for a more friendly country (Hotbit is Asian I believe) Why not? Binance is traveling since years across the world when something is better for their operation (taxes, regulations, ect)

- Their point about 'too many' DDOS:
What about spending 'too many' money on your servers infrastructure? You're too poor that your business can't invest in solutions?

- I know also they mentionned the hack (in 2020 or 2021?):
Funds were SAFU, it was the database with customers information, not coins (IIRC)

- Their own words (more or less): "it will happen to all others CEXs, they won't survive in the long run"  (nota bene: because regulations too hard)
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May 22, 2023, 02:52:31 PM
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Those that has got funds there have 1 month to withdraw it. And for those that want to know the reasons for it, you can just go directly to their link. Don't worry it's safe and it's from them.

This is so scary, Imagine some new leave their coins their on staking for more than a month without checking his investment. This kind of time limit of withdrawing the balance is very unfair to customers since not all users follow not your keys not your coin principle since this exchange offers defi that will be tempting for customers to stay the funds within the exchange.

I believe this is still part of the aftershock of FTX collapse since they mention it on the reason. I think many small to medium exchange will follow on this move since they doesn’t have much profit on bear market. Maybe they will just rebrand after this closure hoping other user will caught off guard by leaving their money on exchange.

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They are based in Hong Kong and Estonia, so they should be safe from US regulations but they must be bankrupt too.

They give 3 reasons for this shutdown and it's good to see them allow users to withdraw if there were even users left in the exchange. One reason was that it was because of the significant losses from numerous problems they suffered. They were accused by several users in the forum, it must have affected their profit.



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They're the only CEXs I know of that have lasted longer in no KYC policy, while more established competitors have gradually increased their policies up to full KYC requirements.
Surprisingly since the last few days they breathed the air of life, they announced some new coins listed. I hope it's listed for free and not a last ditch attempt to withhold more user funds after this shutdown phase.

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At this point I'm just going to consider this phase to be an Ice Age, and maybe I will also consider buying Blu-Rays of the movie from Disney and distribute them to all exchanges so that they do not forget which season they are in. (/s)

They are based in Hong Kong and Estonia, so they should be safe from US regulations but they must be bankrupt too.

FTX was also "safe from US regulations" but the international parent company also exploded as well as all of the subsidiaries.

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1 month is too short, not everyone will be able to withdraw... but perhaps that's what they wanted. It's possible they don't have enough funds to cover everything mainly due to the frozen assets from last year which they haven't gotten back.

!remind me to check back few days after to see if people are experiencing issues when trying to get their funds out.

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Hé hé, another exchange closing the doors and blaming someone else Roll Eyes
- They're blaming (mainly) the regulations too hard to follow:
- Their point about 'too many' DDOS:
Going to play devil's advocate here and suggest that they might have been too small an exchange to pack up and leave whatever country they operated out of, or to afford lawyers, or whatever IT support they'd have needed to protect themselves from attackers.  When I think of crypto exchanges, Hotbit wouldn't even pop into my head.  I can't imagine they ever had a high volume of trades or made a profit anywhere near an exchange like Kucoin or MEXC, much less a leader like Binance.

I always get Hotbit and HITbit confused.  Is Hotbit the one with the shitty reputation and numerous scam accusations against them?  Regardless, they were small potatoes and I doubt they're going to be missed much.

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1 month is too short, not everyone will be able to withdraw... but perhaps that's what they wanted. It's possible they don't have enough funds to cover everything mainly due to the frozen assets from last year which they haven't gotten back.

!remind me to check back few days after to see if people are experiencing issues when trying to get their funds out.

I actually had the same feeling the last Exchanges shutdown is qtrade.io you guys might never hear of it, but they give more than a month At least 6 month if I don't mistaken and if we look at the site https://qtrade.io/ we can still email them to withdraw our money.

Their operation is in China the amount of freeze amount might not yet be recovered.

and Last is this, it seems BTC, USDT and ETH Withdraw button has been disabled



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Going to play devil's advocate here and suggest that they might have been too small an exchange to pack up and leave whatever country they operated out of, or to afford lawyers, or whatever IT support they'd have needed to protect themselves from attackers.  When I think of crypto exchanges, Hotbit wouldn't even pop into my head.  I can't imagine they ever had a high volume of trades or made a profit anywhere near an exchange like Kucoin or MEXC, much less a leader like Binance.
This is exactly what I thought. They can't just leave and start business afresh in a different country. Establishing in another country can be quite expensive, especially for a small exchange like Hotbit. It's illogical to compare them to Binance. The competition in CEX is really high.

I always get Hotbit and HITbit confused.  Is Hotbit the one with the shitty reputation and numerous scam accusations against them?  Regardless, they were small potatoes and I doubt they're going to be missed much.
Yea, Hotbit got a lot of negative reviews. I have never used them. Their assets were even frozen some time last year.
Ive never heard of an exchange like "HITbit". Maybe you mean "HitBTC".

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May 23, 2023, 11:16:35 AM
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This wasn't even caused by regulations.

freezing assets and not giving any transparency to their customers will totally kill any platform.

They've mentioned about difficulty in compliance but, I think they're just trying to get out and using it as an excuse since it's been seen with other exchange's closure.

They gave a only one month to withdraw funds from there, announcing on his blog and Twitter. I don't read their blog, nor do I follow their Twitter account, yet I didn't receive any email notification about this closing of the business.
They've just posted it on their Twitter and it was all of a sudden. I think one month isn't enough for everyone to withdraw their funds but still, they've given time for everyone to withdraw it. But, I pity those that have missed this update and still got funds there and might miss this threshold of time for withdrawal.

Hé hé, another exchange closing the doors and blaming someone else Roll Eyes

- They're blaming (mainly) the regulations too hard to follow:
If they were really convinced with their business, it was only a matter to change your location for a more friendly country (Hotbit is Asian I believe) Why not? Binance is traveling since years across the world when something is better for their operation (taxes, regulations, ect)
Exactly, a serious business won't find these compliance as a hindrance to their operations. But it seems that they've given up and just trying to pull things out of these regulations. Although these regulations are certainly difficult for these business but can't also remove that fact that they might just use it as reason for some other reasons they're trying to hide.

This is so scary, Imagine some new leave their coins their on staking for more than a month without checking his investment. This kind of time limit of withdrawing the balance is very unfair to customers since not all users follow not your keys not your coin principle since this exchange offers defi that will be tempting for customers to stay the funds within the exchange.

I believe this is still part of the aftershock of FTX collapse since they mention it on the reason. I think many small to medium exchange will follow on this move since they doesn’t have much profit on bear market. Maybe they will just rebrand after this closure hoping other user will caught off guard by leaving their money on exchange.
True.

I have seen folks that have posted in the forum as well trying to recover those funds from unknown exchanges that have already announced their closure. We're seeing still a domino effect and we're not even in a bear market.

They are based in Hong Kong and Estonia, so they should be safe from US regulations but they must be bankrupt too.

They give 3 reasons for this shutdown and it's good to see them allow users to withdraw if there were even users left in the exchange. One reason was that it was because of the significant losses from numerous problems they suffered. They were accused by several users in the forum, it must have affected their profit.
They have to give timeframe for their users if there are still remaining funds but a month for all of these is unfair and short.

They're the only CEXs I know of that have lasted longer in no KYC policy, while more established competitors have gradually increased their policies up to full KYC requirements.
Surprisingly since the last few days they breathed the air of life, they announced some new coins listed. I hope it's listed for free and not a last ditch attempt to withhold more user funds after this shutdown phase.
Really? I don't use them but didn't know that they're still one of those exchanges that have allowed users not to push for KYC. But then, everything has come to an end for them. As for those newly listed coins, the devs might contest to them after knowing this closure.

They are based in Hong Kong and Estonia, so they should be safe from US regulations but they must be bankrupt too.

FTX was also "safe from US regulations" but the international parent company also exploded as well as all of the subsidiaries.
After reading some of their partners and some info about them, it seems that this is more of Chinese focused exchange, maybe there's something within their border and stuff and could it be that there's a pressure on that part.

1 month is too short, not everyone will be able to withdraw... but perhaps that's what they wanted. It's possible they don't have enough funds to cover everything mainly due to the frozen assets from last year which they haven't gotten back.

!remind me to check back few days after to see if people are experiencing issues when trying to get their funds out.
I agree that 1 month isn't really that enough for most users. IIRC, most of these closures give around 1-3 months for everyone to give it time for withdrawal but then, they're hasting on the process.

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As said on one reason, about hard dealing with regulations from the government.

If other exchanges were able to survive, then I think it's possible for them to survive in the business. So, I don't really believe that's the main reason. It's likely that they have violated regulations or there's something more serious going on that would benefit them personally. You know, some exchanges have been involved in exit scams. Hopefully, that's not the case with Hotbit, as users will certainly suffer.

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May 23, 2023, 02:25:42 PM
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They are based in Hong Kong and Estonia, so they should be safe from US regulations but they must be bankrupt too.

Hotbit was saying they don't accept users from the US in the first place, but, there are clearly a few cracks there:

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Currently, Hotbit does not provide services for users from the following countries / areas: United States of America, People's Republic of China, Singapore,Japan,
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Currently, Hotbit platform supports 6 languages (Chinese, English, Russian, Korean, Thai, Turkish) and has accumulated 1,000,000+ registered users from more than 170 countries and areas all over the world, among which 90% of registered users are non-Chinese users.

Yeah right, They had 100 000 Chinese users that weren't citizens of China, and adding that you can't have users from 170 countries when you ban 40 of them  Cheesy

This is so scary, Imagine some new leave their coins their on staking for more than a month without checking his investment. This kind of time limit of withdrawing the balance is very unfair to customers since not all users follow not your keys not your coin principle since this exchange offers defi that will be tempting for customers to stay the funds within the exchange.

If 10 years after MtGox and with the FTX fiasco still fresh people still leave their coins unattended for more than one month on an exchange with already a shady reputation, they should leave cryptos alone and stick to stocks and banks.

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May 23, 2023, 02:54:09 PM
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I was looking if someone has already posted this news and it was posted through Hotbit's twitter account a few hours ago.
Those that has got funds there have 1 month to withdraw it. And for those that want to know the reasons for it, you can just go directly to their link. Don't worry it's safe and it's from them.

We saw the pattern from the other exchanges that have shut their operations. As said on one reason, about hard dealing with regulations from the government.
One month should be enough for people to withdraw their funds if the process is easy and workout problems. If every depositor gets his funds back then the exchange has shown that they are genuine. But some customers are complaining that they cannot withdraw their funds because the withdrawal option is not operational. I am sure Hotbit engaged in some unprofessional business dealings that led to the loss of funds. They also complained of diverse cyber attacks that affected them negatively. This is a clear indication that they were not upgrading or investing in security.

Including the fall of FTX as a major reason for their problems proved the predictions that more exchanges will collapse. The government wants to ensure that it controls the crypto space so we have to expect more strict regulation. The best option remains to keep your coin in a wallet you have total control over.

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One month should be enough for people to withdraw their funds if the process is easy and workout problems. If every depositor gets his funds back then the exchange has shown that they are genuine. But some customers are complaining that they cannot withdraw their funds because the withdrawal option is not operational. I am sure Hotbit engaged in some unprofessional business dealings that led to the loss of funds. They also complained of diverse cyber attacks that affected them negatively. This is a clear indication that they were not upgrading or investing in security.
Usually every time there is a CEX closing there will be a notification via email but Hotbit doesn't do that, only makes an announcement on Twitter maybe some people won't know about this update.

Luckily I don't have any assets in Hotbit exchange after many say that this exchange is very shady then if users still have balance there with withdrawals can't be done how do they withdraw those funds? Do you have to contact support first to do this?
I didn't open a hotbit account for a long time.

About their business dealings I may not know, but your statement is true where they are unprofessional in conducting business with several accusations that came out from many parties, but it was their decision to close CEX yesterday.

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and Last is this, it seems BTC, USDT and ETH Withdraw button has been disabled

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/Screen-Shot-2023-05-23-at-07.32.56e97e458224fd770a.png

Bit confused. Is this from hotbit or from the exchange you first talked about?

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and Last is this, it seems BTC, USDT and ETH Withdraw button has been disabled

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/23/Screen-Shot-2023-05-23-at-07.32.56e97e458224fd770a.png

Bit confused. Is this from hotbit or from the exchange you first talked about?

That is from Hotbit forget to mention

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If we want to describe of what happened in two words then competition and debt. Most of the current platforms were working to make developers and owners rich quickly because they know that this market changes every 4 to 8 years and you will not find a platform that lasts for more than that, without continuous development they will not succeed in competition and then it will be It is difficult to convince users of the importance of using this platform.

The debt is the second part, as the interest cost has increased, and there is no immediate hope that the price will regain previous values during the current year.

Does anyone know what will happen if a person does not withdraw his money within a month? a month is very short and certainly not everyone will be able to withdraw their money.

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