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May 23, 2023, 12:35:36 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

I guess they are very happy losing money. They are playing not for the sake of making money but because they are bored or they want to enjoy themselves.

but if it is part of their system losing their money just to get feel of their strategy on gambling, they are truly confident on gambling and letting probabilities play on their system. Maybe they are losing right now, but soon on the series of trades, as a crypto investors they know that they can be on the green side and have a positive returns over their bets. More importantly they understand the risk side not needing to make money.

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May 23, 2023, 12:46:32 PM
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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
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May 23, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.
I'd say things are the same. Perhaps the gambling site you recer suddenly closes which caused trouble to your invitees? We are in cryptospace and no one has the liability with lost funds other than the investor or gambler itself. It is not only losing or winning in a gamble which is the concern. It is the technology we are moving around. But I do get the point regarding losses due to risks. I'd still chose not to encourage people especially people around me to engage in this industry in general just to be safe from burden. Ofcourse it would be easy for them to say that they are ready with worse case scenarios but that won't be easily accepted once negative thing happen. I'd still choose just to let them be than for me to be a factor of their involvement in cryptospace.

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May 23, 2023, 01:14:03 PM
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The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

I personally wouldn't treat losses as something completely normal. Well, making it feel normal is okay, but if you develop this mindset that losing is okay most of the time, you will no longer have that drive to improve your craft and get some wins on you. I mean, I get it, gamblers are generally risk takers compared to the rest of the population. But I'd prefer to have someone on my side that calculates their risks and assesses the situation before getting their feet wet and their pockets empty in hopes of securing a profit.

A right balance of being a risk taker and being a conservative investor is what you need to be - you can't lean more on one side and expect to win steadily over time.

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May 23, 2023, 01:22:03 PM
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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
This is what I'm worried about that if someone we invite to gamble and he is addicted to the point of leaving his family to gamble alias bankrupt, of course we feel guilty because it is clear in my opinion inviting someone to gamble or trade is both risky, therefore I always share the link referrals on the internet alone, not to friends and family because if the people closest to us will make us continue to be guilty in the eyes of their families.

I also don't want to plunge the people closest to me into gambling, because my experience has been seeing someone in my house he was a gambling addict and he sold his house and left his wife and children just because of gambling until now my uncle who asked him to gamble feels guilty.

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May 23, 2023, 01:29:33 PM
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I think because the OP invited some people who have gambled before, and maybe they gamble a lot it's just that they gamble a lot using their fiat or currency. So it's natural that they prefer to gamble rather than invest in crypto or bitcoin because they really understand and also understand the risks of gambling, and they just want to know the difference between fiat and crypto bets. Which is basically the game they play is still the same and winning or losing makes no difference.

and inviting people to invest in crypto or bitcoin is not recommended, because they are required to have prior knowledge and understanding, especially the risk of loss that will be faced. And for this problem I prefer them to come from awareness and own initiative with existing readiness rather than inviting them because I don't want to be blamed if they fail or experience a loss.

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May 23, 2023, 01:39:22 PM
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The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.
In my opinion, anyone who is already addicted to gambling, they must have understood what gambling and investors are doing, especially those who are familiar with gambling and how crypto works in general, inviting friends to gamble, I personally may not be able to count anymore, but most of what I have introduced to crypto gambling sites, those who know and are addicted to online gambling, I don't want to introduce gambling to those who don't know gambling, it's a risk for myself if they really lose and lose their money.

In general, when I introduce gambling sites to my friends, they know how to play gambling and understand the challenges of gambling well, losing and winning as well as the risks they face, so that they don't blame me when things happen that they don't want, that's a point for me, even if they are a heavy addict or an ordinary gambler.

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May 23, 2023, 02:54:23 PM
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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
Actually, bringing gamblers to move to crypto casinos is an easy thing because gamblers can bet or play more freely and can bet at any time without having to think about going to a land casino and inviting gamblers will be easier than inviting people who are beginners in gambling.
Maybe at first they are only interested in gambling and not interested in crypto but I'm sure over time they will also be interested in crypto because they bet with crypto-based casinos.

Why should you be afraid of influencing gamblers to become addicts because all you invite to a crypto casino are gamblers and gamblers will definitely become addicts so you don't have to worry about that.

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May 23, 2023, 02:55:58 PM
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Those who have the courage versus those who panic immediately. Hmm, I kind of understand what your point is but there may be times that you will also bump into a gambler that cannot control himself. Yes, gamblers do lose more and they are used to it but there are those who are still not used to losing and sometimes they cannot control their own emotion, worse they will file a case against the site just like the recent news that came out days ago.

Investors on the other hand have the same different types of people. Some are brave enough to sink their foot on a risky investment for a chance of high profits while some just like to play it safe and invest in the popular cryptocurrencies. Regarding the process of inviting, it's hard to find gamblers unless you are in the same group as them but investors now can be found everywhere.

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I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling
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I almost experience this before because I have a lot of colleagues or even friends that are into gambling but most of them are gambling fiat also and have no even idea what is cryptocurrency or how to use it.
But there are some friends of mine I introduced also in gambling using cryptocurrency before like they give me their fiat exchange of cryptocurrency that they will use on a gambling platform, by doing that, it's easy for them to gamble using cryptocurrencies.

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May 23, 2023, 04:23:37 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

Gambling and cryptocurency investment are two different things, they're also in two different industry so I don't understand the comparison you're giving here. Investment are not gambling so when you introduced someone's to investing they should be making profits.

When they invest in cryptocurrency and don't see the profits they were promised them they become aggressive and begin to question if investing in cryptocurrency are worth it. People only complain when you didn't let them know everything involved before they invested.

Gamblers know gambling is all about luck so they can have patience when you introduce them into gambling and it doesn't matter if it's cryptocurency gambling or the traditional gambling with fiat currencies.

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May 23, 2023, 05:32:50 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

I think the headline of the thread is actually fairly misleading and it's one of the greatest weaknesses in people. Maybe it's not discussed enough, but it's a scientifically established fact that the general population overestimate their mathematical and predictive skills, which is one of the reasons that casinos / sportbooks are so profitable in the long term. Another weakness that makes these companies ever richer is how our brains are wired to see patterns where none may exist. Merging these two "blindspots" together can often result in disaster and lead people to think that they have an advantage over basic math that is designed to transfer their money into the pockets of casinos via games or sport betting.

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May 23, 2023, 06:04:17 PM
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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
Yeah I agree with you mate, I don't support the notion of bringing someone into gambling especially when it has to do with it crypto but I can only do that if he or she is someone I know very well that has a way of control towards his gambling habit because a gamble with no control is better left to stay off gambling because he or she can easily be addicted to the act and it would result to the destruction of the person.

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May 23, 2023, 06:04:27 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..
I haven’t introduced any gambler into online casino, because most of the people I know already knows about the online casino and am really the type that don’t make new friends, and to me i believe their is no difference between offline and online gambling, the only difference that I can see is currency difference, offline gamblers will always make use of fiat currency and the online gamblers will be making use of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, but I believe the risk is the same, if you can take the risk to gamble offline, then you can take the risk to gamble online.

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.
Why didn’t you want to show them the platform which they can use to gamble, their are lots of reputable gambling sites on this forum here which you can recommend to them or are you scared they will lose high if you introduce them to any gambling sites? But you know it won’t make sense for you to introduce them to online gambling site but you won’t recommend any site to them, then it’s of no use for you to introduce them to it, they have been taking risk before so am sure they will be able to manage their risk.

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May 23, 2023, 09:56:09 PM
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I don't want to be the one to influence other people's choice, especially in sensitive matters, which is why I never invite people to gamble.

To know what I mean you have to think about how advertising works. When you see someone you don't like promoting a product, you're going to want it less. For example, I don't like Biden and if he were to use a product, I probably would avoid it. If I were to invite people who like me, they'd follow, even though they were like 50% willing to do it, the fact that I recommended it to them would make it 70% and they'd play. I'm aware of that and I know that my involvement is responsible for their choice and that through this I could be responsible for them losing money.

I'm fine with telling people if I play somewhere, but I won't recommend anything to them.

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I haven't, not my cup of tea to invite anyone to gamble.

I've got an ugly experience in the past and I don't want people pinpointing and blaming me for their miseries as they gamble. The blame was always put on me so I just stopped encouraging anyone to gamble.

But to those that have successfully managed to invite their peers to do crypto gambling, that's nice. And for my friends, I know that they've got some idea about it and it's up to them if they'll approach me willingly.

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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
Yeah I agree with you mate, I don't support the notion of bringing someone into gambling especially when it has to do with it crypto but I can only do that if he or she is someone I know very well that has a way of control towards his gambling habit because a gamble with no control is better left to stay off gambling because he or she can easily be addicted to the act and it would result to the destruction of the person.
^Both of you were right.
You rightly emphasize the significance of self-control when engaging in gambling activities. Without proper control and moderation, gambling can potentially lead to addictive behavior and have a negative outcome for individuals. I think it is good for anyone to be aware of their limits, set boundaries, and approach gambling responsibly.
If you decide to introduce someone to gambling, that is the risky part to assess their level of self-control and their ability to have better decisions. Because for me knowing the person well and understanding their habits and attitudes towards risk can help determine whether they are equipped to handle the potential risks associated with gambling.
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I don't want to be the one to influence other people's choice, especially in sensitive matters, which is why I never invite people to gamble.
Just like me, you can decide to play on my gambling site, but not on my recommendation. Some people are irresponsible and quick to cast blames to someone who made a recommendation for them. In some cases, some who have never gambled or gambled so much have better understanding than some gamblers who have been gambling for long.

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Investors are risk takers but their being risk takers is nothing compared to gamblers, gamblers can lose all their bankroll in one night, while investors are on a series of trading and they can cut their losses, while gamblers keep chasing their losses and gamblers will not blame you if they lose, because true games know the risk in gambling so between the two I prefer inviting gamblers, you don't have to go through a lot of explanation.

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May 23, 2023, 10:52:07 PM
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I don't want to be the one to influence other people's choice, especially in sensitive matters, which is why I never invite people to gamble.
Just like me, you can decide to play on my gambling site, but not on my recommendation. Some people are irresponsible and quick to cast blames to someone who made a recommendation for them.
Me either, I don't want to influence people surrounding me to gamble. If they want to gamble, it's up to their terms but I don't want to be associated with any of them. That's their money and they can do whatever they want but coming to the point that I'm going to be their recruiter, not gonna happen.

In some cases, some who have never gambled or gambled so much have better understanding than some gamblers who have been gambling for long.
It's because they don't like to lose and they understand that once they're in, they probably can't get out anymore as they've seen this from the other gamblers so they don't want to imitate it.

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