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May 23, 2023, 10:59:37 PM
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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
Yeah I agree with you mate, I don't support the notion of bringing someone into gambling especially when it has to do with it crypto but I can only do that if he or she is someone I know very well that has a way of control towards his gambling habit because a gamble with no control is better left to stay off gambling because he or she can easily be addicted to the act and it would result to the destruction of the person.
^Both of you were right.
You rightly emphasize the significance of self-control when engaging in gambling activities. Without proper control and moderation, gambling can potentially lead to addictive behavior and have a negative outcome for individuals. I think it is good for anyone to be aware of their limits, set boundaries, and approach gambling responsibly.
If you decide to introduce someone to gambling, that is the risky part to assess their level of self-control and their ability to have better decisions. Because for me knowing the person well and understanding their habits and attitudes towards risk can help determine whether they are equipped to handle the potential risks associated with gambling.
Everything should really be in moderation because if you arent really have that kind of control and awareness of your actions then most likely you would  really be ending up on bad experiences or situations
which we should really be avoiding in  the first place.Of course you should really be gambling or betting on games on which you are knowledgeable into. When you are recommending or telling someone to gamble then it would really be just that right that you should really be telling them about the risks and being responsible on what would be your actions is a must thing as an individual.
Always set out limits and set out yourself to be discipline on what you are engaging. Gambling do talks about money and it is really just that right that you should really be having the control
towards it specially with your finances.

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May 24, 2023, 03:46:23 AM
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I'd rather invite people to invest in crypto than invite them to crypto casinos because I don't know the psychology of my friends and I also don't want to be blamed if they lose big later. It's better for me to play gambling secretly without anyone knowing because if any of my friends find out, they will definitely be curious and will play gambling secretly too. It will be much more dangerous because they can use a lot of money to gamble and experience a gambling addiction many people don't know about.

And if they decide to invest in crypto, I will also accompany them and study with them to find the right coin as an investment. But I will also remind them to be patient in investing in crypto because it's not every day that they can see their investment grow.

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May 24, 2023, 08:04:07 AM
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I'd rather invite people to invest in crypto than invite them to crypto casinos because I don't know the psychology of my friends and I also don't want to be blamed if they lose big later. It's better for me to play gambling secretly without anyone knowing because if any of my friends find out, they will definitely be curious and will play gambling secretly too. It will be much more dangerous because they can use a lot of money to gamble and experience a gambling addiction many people don't know about.

Investing is better than gambling, when you gamble there are two things that'll always happen, you lose or you win and the percentage of losses are always greater than the percentage of wins. This is why we're recommended not to gamble or introduced others.

It's better when your friends discover gambling on their own as you can't be held responsible for whatever outcome they get from gambling. Investing is always the best way to make extra income for yourself as you can be guaranteed of profits.

Not everybody has the power to avoid becoming an addict, you might not know if your friend has the power to stop himself from over gambling and those introduced into gambling can easily become addicted so it's better you teach them how to invest.

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May 24, 2023, 04:19:49 PM
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~snip~Not everybody has the power to avoid becoming an addict, you might not know if your friend has the power to stop himself from over gambling and those introduced into gambling can easily become addicted so it's better you teach them how to invest.

For some people, gambling is just entertainment and only a small amount of money is allocated. But for those who do gambling to get multiple profits, they are players and indeed have the potential to become gambling addicts.
Investment is indeed the main recommendation compared to gambling, but everyone's choice is different. I do investing and gambling for fun, and only a small amount of money is at stake.
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May 24, 2023, 05:23:33 PM
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You're right mate and I also agree with you because personally  I would prefer to get a gambler  into an online casino  than invitibgban investor because I think the work load in trying to get a business minded individual  to invest in a volatile  asset like cryptocurrency is something else because at some point,  the investors would want some form of assurance and would also want to be guaranteed of their returns making you get under pressure of wanting you meet up a goal or target on like getting a gambler who already knows the risk in gambling into an online casino because all you have to do is get them familiar  with the site and watch them get fun while hoping  to make some good profits.

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May 24, 2023, 05:35:08 PM
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I'd rather invite people to invest in crypto than invite them to crypto casinos because I don't know the psychology of my friends and I also don't want to be blamed if they lose big later. It's better for me to play gambling secretly without anyone knowing because if any of my friends find out, they will definitely be curious and will play gambling secretly too. It will be much more dangerous because they can use a lot of money to gamble and experience a gambling addiction many people don't know about.

And if they decide to invest in crypto, I will also accompany them and study with them to find the right coin as an investment. But I will also remind them to be patient in investing in crypto because it's not every day that they can see their investment grow.
After all there are cons as well when inviting gamblers to crypto casinos. It's not much different from inviting people to invest in Bitcoin. If something goes wrong with their game and money is lost, there are risks they or their families will blame you for introducing the person to the online platform. They might say the platform is cheating, because it's impossible to lose so many times in a row... Just like people can say Bitcoin is a ponzi, because the price has fallen recently.

More important than referring gamblers or investors, it's to refer smart people who are aware about the risks of the activities they are going to be involved with and the basics of how these activities work. Doing this, I think it's safe to bring gamblers or investors, as you wish, without any headaches for you later!

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About ten years ago, my brother showed me online poker. Before that, I only played regular poker on the table.
So: from that moment on, I played on the domains 888poker and pokerdom. At the same time, it was the first time I played in an online casino, it was a win for free free spins. One time I have win in 300 $ from 10$ Smiley

It was fun, but other than that, I wasn't very keen on casino games.

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May 24, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..
I don't bring them but they are registered through the referral link from the signature campaign that I use on my bitcointalk profile, I know that maybe they understand more about the risks of losing playing gambling than trading crypto, but actually I am more interested in getting people to trade crypto and invest there because they have nothing to lose but value and have always considered bitcoin investing much safer in the long term.

Gambling will always spend money on people who can never control how they play, sometimes we can't help and stop those who follow me, but to be honest I never had the desire to invite anyone to play gambling be it friends or family because it's better to invite they invest in bitcoin or crypto is quite promising.  Wink
Cool, so it's possible to modify the link in the signature campaign that we have joined? Or maybe it only depends on the campaign and some campaigns won't let you do that because you are already being paid by the owner. We can still use our personal text and then the empty fields in our bitcointalk profile like for example "other contact info".

Those who play gambling knows that trading is also risky but gambling is different from it because you can have fun in it while at the same time make money if you get lucky. Trading is more like a serious business and your goal here is only to make money. It is also hard to learn and master it. I also don't like to invite people, be it in gambling or trading because I am afraid to be blamed in case massive losses and addiction will occur on them.

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May 24, 2023, 09:55:23 PM
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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..
I don't bring them but they are registered through the referral link from the signature campaign that I use on my bitcointalk profile, I know that maybe they understand more about the risks of losing playing gambling than trading crypto, but actually I am more interested in getting people to trade crypto and invest there because they have nothing to lose but value and have always considered bitcoin investing much safer in the long term.

Gambling will always spend money on people who can never control how they play, sometimes we can't help and stop those who follow me, but to be honest I never had the desire to invite anyone to play gambling be it friends or family because it's better to invite they invest in bitcoin or crypto is quite promising.  Wink
Cool, so it's possible to modify the link in the signature campaign that we have joined? Or maybe it only depends on the campaign and some campaigns won't let you do that because you are already being paid by the owner. We can still use our personal text and then the empty fields in our bitcointalk profile like for example "other contact info".

Those who play gambling knows that trading is also risky but gambling is different from it because you can have fun in it while at the same time make money if you get lucky. Trading is more like a serious business and your goal here is only to make money. It is also hard to learn and master it. I also don't like to invite people, be it in gambling or trading because I am afraid to be blamed in case massive losses and addiction will occur on them.
When it comes to adding on your own ref link then it would really be depending on a certain campaign or company on which there are ones who do allow but most of them wont really be allowing because
they would really be putting up their own tracker link and would be finding out if the signature campaign is really hooking up some good number of sign ups or simply tracking. As for ref links to be put up on your personal message or into your profile on vacant places then it would be also a good decision if you are really that tending to show up and invite people.

As for inviting then it would be entirely be depending if ever it would be smooth or something that would be still taking some more session to make them understand.
Its true that explaining something correlates to gambling into someone who does have that gambling knowledge is something make things more easier and faster.

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May 24, 2023, 11:00:03 PM
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I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

If that's your own preference, then so be it.

However, the risks you are talking about are just all about money and nothing else. The risks in gambling are different from what the usual investors are facing. These investors know well how to manage the risks since there's always a way to how to deal with those unlike in the usual gambling where mostly, luck is a main ingredient.

Obviously, those gamblers you are referring to and able to lure into the crypto world won't mind some risks since they entered crypto just because of the purpose to gamble with crypto, simple as that. I don't see they will truly care for the volatility and anything else in crypto or even to know crypto basics in general since they will just gamble on their usual.

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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so?

In the past I've already made good money using affiliate links, advertising in different places of my favorite casinos.
But that's not exactly an indication and I think that's not the OP's focus.

Personally, I have never invited people I know, firstly because I don't like to expose myself to friends and relatives about my relationship with cryptos, it's something only my wife and son know.

Second, because gambling is extremely addictive and we know that few people know how to control the impulse to spend endlessly... I don't want to have the guilty conscience of knowing that I contributed to ruining the mental and financial health of someone I know.

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How many times have you successfully invited some gamblers to online casino? What is your experience doing so? I know many will find this hard to believe but I kinda prefer bringing in gamblers than investors into crypto, why? They understood the risk already, there is no talk and talk over again, there is no dealing with someone fear and confidence..

I have successfully brought in four people into crypto gambling, and it was the easiest thing ever, they came asking if it's possible to use crypto for gambling and I said yes, but I told them that I am not ready to introduce any platform for anyone, but these guys then showed me there past gambles on a local website that only accept Fiat, that's when I got soft with them and I showed them the websites I use for gambling.

The thing is, they are small time winners and big time losers, I mean they lose more than winning, it's been two weeks and two of them tell me about their loss and gains, but they make it feel normal, to them it really is, not like the crypto investors today, always in hurry to double their money, some are even scared of investing in Bitcoin, which is the safest of them all.

"Small time winners and big time losers" lol.  That's pretty funny and kinda harsh, but I guess it's the reality of the situation.  I would prefer people use bitcoin to gamble than invest any day, as I think it's extremely important for bitcoin that it be used as a currency, whether that's for illegal or legal things, imo if it's being used as a means of currency it's good for it's utility/adoption and long term outcome.  The blockchain isn't private anyhow and bitcoin being used for illegal purposes isn't a huge issue, so this is why I say this so casually.

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It is much easier to bring people to crypto gambling compared to investing, because in my experience those who want to invest in crypto must have their initial thought that they will quickly profit from their investment. They tend to be impatient and think that investing in crypto is their way to get rich quick. In contrast to that, gamblers already have the calculation that their money will disappear at any time and usually they tend to be normal when that happens, because they already know the risks - they already have a gambler's mind and therefore invite gamblers to crypto gambling is far easier.

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May 25, 2023, 02:45:13 AM
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I'd rather invite people to invest in crypto than invite them to crypto casinos because I don't know the psychology of my friends and I also don't want to be blamed if they lose big later. It's better for me to play gambling secretly without anyone knowing because if any of my friends find out, they will definitely be curious and will play gambling secretly too. It will be much more dangerous because they can use a lot of money to gamble and experience a gambling addiction many people don't know about.

And if they decide to invest in crypto, I will also accompany them and study with them to find the right coin as an investment. But I will also remind them to be patient in investing in crypto because it's not every day that they can see their investment grow.
But in fact, both have almost the same risk, so it will be difficult for you if those who invest in crypto suffer losses from a decrease in the price of the invested asset because surely they will also blame you.
If you really invite them to invest, it is better in the long term and after owning several assets, tell them to forget about the investment so that there is no panic when the price drops.

The risk of inviting someone to gamble is that if at one point something goes wrong, for example, they sell some valuable items to gamble, then automatically their family or the people around them will blame you because they are gambling with your invitation.
It is better to gamble or invest alone and hang out with people who are already gamblers or investors to learn more.

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May 25, 2023, 04:16:57 AM
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Investing is better than gambling, when you gamble there are two things that'll always happen, you lose or you win and the percentage of losses are always greater than the percentage of wins. This is why we're recommended not to gamble or introduced others.

It's better when your friends discover gambling on their own as you can't be held responsible for whatever outcome they get from gambling. Investing is always the best way to make extra income for yourself as you can be guaranteed of profits.

Not everybody has the power to avoid becoming an addict, you might not know if your friend has the power to stop himself from over gambling and those introduced into gambling can easily become addicted so it's better you teach them how to invest.
Agree with what you say because playing gambling alone will not influence other people to join in gambling and they will not blame us either. But in playing alone, we also have to be careful because we already know the risks and the impact we can get in the future.

It's better for us to be friends as usual and stay away from gambling when we're with them so they won't discuss anything about gambling. But if we are with friends who often gamble, maybe we can share stories about the gambling days that we do because they also usually do that so we can get new experiences and lessons from them.

And it is true that we should teach them how to invest because it can help them profit in the future, especially if they are interested in investing in bitcoin.

After all there are cons as well when inviting gamblers to crypto casinos. It's not much different from inviting people to invest in Bitcoin. If something goes wrong with their game and money is lost, there are risks they or their families will blame you for introducing the person to the online platform. They might say the platform is cheating, because it's impossible to lose so many times in a row... Just like people can say Bitcoin is a ponzi, because the price has fallen recently.

More important than referring gamblers or investors, it's to refer smart people who are aware about the risks of the activities they are going to be involved with and the basics of how these activities work. Doing this, I think it's safe to bring gamblers or investors, as you wish, without any headaches for you later!
But at least, if we invite people to invest in Bitcoin and we can teach them properly, they have a chance to profit. It's another case if we invite them to play gambling at a crypto casino. They will not always be able to get the chance to win but on the contrary, they can often get losses at gambling.

If they find that bitcoin is a ponzi or say bad things about bitcoin because of the news out there, we can explain it in more detail so that their misunderstanding about bitcoin can be cleared up and they can understand it well. It will surely open their minds to the fact that what they get from out there is not always right.

But in fact, both have almost the same risk, so it will be difficult for you if those who invest in crypto suffer losses from a decrease in the price of the invested asset because surely they will also blame you.
If you really invite them to invest, it is better in the long term and after owning several assets, tell them to forget about the investment so that there is no panic when the price drops.

The risk of inviting someone to gamble is that if at one point something goes wrong, for example, they sell some valuable items to gamble, then automatically their family or the people around them will blame you because they are gambling with your invitation.
It is better to gamble or invest alone and hang out with people who are already gamblers or investors to learn more.
But by inviting them to invest in bitcoin, they still hope to make a profit even though the current price is below that. But if they play gambling, the risk of loss will be greater. If they lose, the loss will not be or is difficult to recover. And once they know the difference, I think they will choose the investment because they can make a profit.

Not everyone can have good self-control when gambling and that is a risk that must be faced by everyone who plays gambling. If we ask them to gamble, we run the risk of seeing them lose and we can also be blamed for asking them to gamble. We also definitely don't want to feel blamed, so we don't have to say anything about gambling in front of them.

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May 25, 2023, 06:31:18 AM
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In the past I've already made good money using affiliate links, advertising in different places of my favorite casinos.
But that's not exactly an indication and I think that's not the OP's focus.
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Second, because gambling is extremely addictive and we know that few people know how to control the impulse to spend endlessly... I don't want to have the guilty conscience of knowing that I contributed to ruining the mental and financial health of someone I know.
I, too, possess a similar disposition, but I am less inclined to coerce someone who is eager to delve deeper into the realm of gambling. I am not actively promoting gambling as a priority for anyone, but when someone approaches me with inquiries about gambling, I respond accordingly to their specific questions.

A few days ago, a friend of mine, an avid lottery gambler, sought my advice on a fair gambling platform. My response was as follows: "For that matter, sports betting is more aligned with what you have in mind. Alternatively, you could engage in poker with your friends, as it is more equitable than depositing money into a gambling platform."

However, it seems that he was not enticed by sports gambling, as evidenced by his continued purchase of lottery numbers for his amusement after work.
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May 25, 2023, 07:34:59 AM
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After all there are cons as well when inviting gamblers to crypto casinos. It's not much different from inviting people to invest in Bitcoin. If something goes wrong with their game and money is lost, there are risks they or their families will blame you for introducing the person to the online platform. They might say the platform is cheating, because it's impossible to lose so many times in a row... Just like people can say Bitcoin is a ponzi, because the price has fallen recently.

The example is not very accurate, because in the case of bitcoin, the coins will always remain with you, you cannot lose them, and if you bought bitcoin, you should understand how volatile the coin is. Whatever happens in the market, just do not sell bitcoin and this will always leave you with a chance to return the money invested and even make a profit. And in the casino you just lose money and no one will return it to you, everything will end very quickly.

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May 25, 2023, 02:54:23 PM
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It is much easier to bring people to crypto gambling compared to investing, because in my experience those who want to invest in crypto must have their initial thought that they will quickly profit from their investment. They tend to be impatient and think that investing in crypto is their way to get rich quick. In contrast to that, gamblers already have the calculation that their money will disappear at any time and usually they tend to be normal when that happens, because they already know the risks - they already have a gambler's mind and therefore invite gamblers to crypto gambling is far easier.
Nah, many gamblers aren't do any calculation when they already know they've lose all of their money if they keep gamble. What do you need to know is only less than 1% people are playing for fun, while most people are gambling to make money.

People are want to make money in investing, same happen in gambling. It all depends on each person character, not about investment or gambling.

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For me, it's hard to bring gamblers in crypto. When you make gamblers enter online crypto casino, they will just focus on gambling but won't probably interested in discovering more about crypto. Gamblers may understand the risk, but will they understand when to stop? How to control their greeds?
Maybe it's your way, but I haven't invited gamblers to online crypto casino cause I don't want to be involve when that person becomes addicted. I don't want to be the one influencing others to be addicted on online casino
It shouldn't be your responsibility to control someone's actions, even if you refer someone to an online gambling platform, you should just warn them that they should gamble responsibly and they can obviously lose everything if they don't stop when they should, and if they get addicted and lose everything even after that, they are the ones responsible for their actions.

It is not possible for you to make them control their greed or emotions, so if you think a person is too emotional and can't have control over their emotions, you should simply avoid referring them since they can be an issue for you in the long run.

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May 26, 2023, 03:54:17 AM
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But in fact, both have almost the same risk, so it will be difficult for you if those who invest in crypto suffer losses from a decrease in the price of the invested asset because surely they will also blame you.
If you really invite them to invest, it is better in the long term and after owning several assets, tell them to forget about the investment so that there is no panic when the price drops.

The risk of inviting someone to gamble is that if at one point something goes wrong, for example, they sell some valuable items to gamble, then automatically their family or the people around them will blame you because they are gambling with your invitation.
It is better to gamble or invest alone and hang out with people who are already gamblers or investors to learn more.
But by inviting them to invest in bitcoin, they still hope to make a profit even though the current price is below that. But if they play gambling, the risk of loss will be greater. If they lose, the loss will not be or is difficult to recover. And once they know the difference, I think they will choose the investment because they can make a profit.

Not everyone can have good self-control when gambling and that is a risk that must be faced by everyone who plays gambling. If we ask them to gamble, we run the risk of seeing them lose and we can also be blamed for asking them to gamble. We also definitely don't want to feel blamed, so we don't have to say anything about gambling in front of them.
As I said that for the long term investing is an option but usually beginners who are new to their crypto investments will experience panic if the Bitcoin price decreases and I believe they will instead sell their assets for fear of getting bigger losses and there is anxiety that the investment will fail.
Gambling only for those who dare to take risks and dare to lose some money because gambling is something that is more certain to lose than to win.

Yes, that's true and investing is also the same because if the price drops and they lose, then in the end you will also be blamed.
The best thing is never to invite new people to gamble or invest unless they really want it from the start, so you can help them by giving some advice or advice.

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