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June 28, 2023, 09:03:32 AM
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It's not so difficult gathering gamblers in my locality maybe that's because there's an existing chain of friendship amongst them already.


Or probably this set of gamblers I see are just the only set around, but they're like 10 and I can say they're all doing well for themselves.
It's not that difficult to gather people to gamble, even I have a lot of gambling friends, but rarely do they want to register under my referrals, because they know I will benefit from their losses, fortunately I'm not someone who likes to take advantage of friends' losses. , so I better promote my referral link to people outside of my friendship.

I know that if my friend registers through my referral, of course when he loses and becomes an addict, I will be very guilty especially since he is the closest person and knows me as a friend, not only to my friend but also his family if it falls apart because the gambling he is doing involves me, but I managed to invite a few people out there including this forum to play gambling..

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June 28, 2023, 09:45:55 AM
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It's not that difficult to gather people to gamble, even I have a lot of gambling friends, but rarely do they want to register under my referrals, because they know I will benefit from their losses, fortunately I'm not someone who likes to take advantage of friends' losses. , so I better promote my referral link to people outside of my friendship.

I know that if my friend registers through my referral, of course when he loses and becomes an addict, I will be very guilty especially since he is the closest person and knows me as a friend, not only to my friend but also his family if it falls apart because the gambling he is doing involves me, but I managed to invite a few people out there including this forum to play gambling..
Yes, it's much better if you don't do it, because on the one hand you will feel guilty if your friend is too dragged into a loss and I think if one day your friend finds out that you benefit from the loss I think there will be a little problem with your friendship, because obviously he will think that you have provided the wrong referral link which makes him lose even more. I have lots of gambler friends and we often gamble together, it never occurred to me to be able to take advantage of the situation to share referrals with my friends even though on the other hand I actually needed it. It's not wrong but it's better not to do it if your target is your own friend.

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June 28, 2023, 11:31:52 AM
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It's not wrong, because that's what they only want people to see. Oh, and especially if they are paid by the gambling site itself. Nobody will be hooked into gambling if they will be so honest to say that you need to keep losing more before you can win some. Yes, there's no such thing as ROI in gambling, once you gamble, the house will keep on taking from the gambler without him noticing it.
From playing Keno and Plinko, I saw how far the RTP is, it happens like once in a blue moon. I think I made a bet of 2000 or possibly more before I saw one ball falling into x1000 pin.
The one way to make it inviting and hoard a lot of referrals as possible is thru streaming, make them see that winning is possible but cut the part on how much time and money you spent before you hit the jackpot. Gambling is easier to understand than investing and it doesn't have the critical details to understand. You spend, and you lose or win.
At least if influencers or we can be honest with their followers about the dangers of gambling, people might think not to play gambling too often and only think of gambling as entertainment. And also, influencers or we can explain the risks that people can experience so they can manage how much they can use and keep reminding them that once they lose, it can make people continue to gamble to recover their losses. And if people or gamblers can understand gambling games won't give them money, of course, they won't try hard or have the desire to win the game.

Seeing other people's game sessions on social media and live streaming is not a good thing for beginners because it can generate curiosity and the desire to win just like what they see.
A great gambler is someone who can be responsible for their actions and choices when gambling, besides that the goal is just to have fun and add experience.
I have seen lots of novice gamblers who have broken down and lost a lot of things because they were too obsessed with game sessions being carried out by other gamblers.
Beginners find it difficult to stop themselves from trying gambling games. Moreover, they often see other people being able to get big wins. But if beginners have good self-control, they will not be easily tempted even if their friends invite them to try their luck at gambling. And yes, those beginners should be able to be responsible when they play gambling so they don't have to lose a lot of money. But unfortunately, the temptation to get big wins keeps coming from many influencers or even their own friends. And that makes it hard for them to quit gambling, even if it's only for a moment.

That's the power of influencing, sadly it's been misused. People becomes triggered when they see you win, it's a natural thing everywhere, when people see winning tickets, they wish they had that opportunity to have bet too and they become curious how the gambler bet and won it successfully. Now, the problem with newbies is that they don't understand how gambling works and also the old gamblers that already in the system don't explain it to them as they only like to share winning tickets and by the time the beginners give it a short and it didn't work, they quit right there and never go back again.

Gambling need patiences, calculated risk and consistency and the strategy doesn't work, it needs to be change and reevaluate again and tested and when it works keep playing until the strategy runs out of luck because you need luck too, skill is not enough in gambling, it's luck that spice it up.
These beginners only know that they have to deposit a certain amount or a minimum deposit to be able to start playing without knowing what they have to learn or have before starting to gamble. Newbies will become addicted to gambling when they find it difficult to overcome the temptation of the promos they see from many casinos. That will be worst if they choose the wrong casino, which causes them to play gambling at scam casinos.

Gambling is okay, but we must be prepared to lose money and only gamble with the money we can afford. Don't try to make gambling a place to make money because it will never be easy. Maybe they need to evaluate what they have gotten from gambling so that if they only lose, they should stop gambling as soon as possible.
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June 28, 2023, 11:40:59 AM
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It's not that difficult to gather people to gamble, even I have a lot of gambling friends, but rarely do they want to register under my referrals, because they know I will benefit from their losses, fortunately I'm not someone who likes to take advantage of friends' losses. , so I better promote my referral link to people outside of my friendship.
You might have misunderstood what gambling is. Of course, you'll earn from your friends' losses because they played under your referral. However, the fact that you think you'll take advantage means you already presume that they will lose their money when they gamble. Otherwise, you would just discourage them from gambling.

Well, if that is the case for me, I would be glad to profit from their losses rather than the site taking all the profit.

Besides, there's nothing personal; it's business. They gamble to have fun and a chance to win, but losing is part of the game.
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June 28, 2023, 12:43:38 PM
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It's not so difficult gathering gamblers in my locality maybe that's because there's an existing chain of friendship amongst them already.


Or probably this set of gamblers I see are just the only set around, but they're like 10 and I can say they're all doing well for themselves.
It's not that difficult to gather people to gamble, even I have a lot of gambling friends, but rarely do they want to register under my referrals, because they know I will benefit from their losses, fortunately I'm not someone who likes to take advantage of friends' losses. , so I better promote my referral link to people outside of my friendship.

I know that if my friend registers through my referral, of course when he loses and becomes an addict, I will be very guilty especially since he is the closest person and knows me as a friend, not only to my friend but also his family if it falls apart because the gambling he is doing involves me, but I managed to invite a few people out there including this forum to play gambling..
Ethics arent just for pals, but strangers too, even in online havens like this. Just as friends might slide into addiction and familial fallout, the same can hit these unknown folks.

Its important to promote responsible behaviors online. Rather than the gamble, why not spotlight interactive, zero-risk pastimes? Its a surefire way to positively connect online without the potential for harm.

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June 28, 2023, 04:44:10 PM
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That's right, there are so many beginners who have lost a lot of money because they were too ambitious to earn a lot of money from gambling in a short time. Even though that's not what they see and they need prior knowledge about the gambling they are betting on so they can understand the risks they get if they use too many bets. On the other hand, this action actually makes them run out of money if they feel they are losing continuously and that can interfere with the brain's performance to become chaotic if they cannot control themselves.
Yes, of course it is very possible for beginners and I see a lot of them sinking. In fact, they put too much hope in winning, they saw their friend who won a lot of money at gambling and indirectly this information has changed his mindset where he will think if his friend can win then he can do it too. The self-control factor will not affect them beginners, all they remember is a win, there are no certain limitations that he applies because this situation has brought their minds to the subconscious. To be honest, in a situation like this, they really need a friend or whoever can remind them and set boundaries so they don't go too far into the loss.

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June 28, 2023, 04:50:14 PM
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Seeing other people's game sessions on social media and live streaming is not a good thing for beginners because it can generate curiosity and the desire to win just like what they see.
A great gambler is someone who can be responsible for their actions and choices when gambling, besides that the goal is just to have fun and add experience.
I have seen lots of novice gamblers who have broken down and lost a lot of things because they were too obsessed with game sessions being carried out by other gamblers.
Beginners find it difficult to stop themselves from trying gambling games. Moreover, they often see other people being able to get big wins. But if beginners have good self-control, they will not be easily tempted even if their friends invite them to try their luck at gambling. And yes, those beginners should be able to be responsible when they play gambling so they don't have to lose a lot of money. But unfortunately, the temptation to get big wins keeps coming from many influencers or even their own friends. And that makes it hard for them to quit gambling, even if it's only for a moment.
For those gamblers who have high emotions and excessive curiosity, it is really not recommended to watch gambling broadcasts carried out by influencers because it will only trigger the desire to be able to get the same win.
I met a friend a few days ago who also likes to gamble and he has lost a lot of things just because he followed the advice of fellow gamblers he knows so that in the end he had to accept a big loss sadly.
Previously I always advised him to leave his colleagues who could have a bad influence but he still didn't believe it and it was true what I thought had happened.

He is a gambler who loves new games but gets sucked into games he can't play properly.

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For those gamblers who have high emotions and excessive curiosity, it is really not recommended to watch gambling broadcasts carried out by influencers because it will only trigger the desire to be able to get the same win.
I met a friend a few days ago who also likes to gamble and he has lost a lot of things just because he followed the advice of fellow gamblers he knows so that in the end he had to accept a big loss sadly.
Previously I always advised him to leave his colleagues who could have a bad influence but he still didn't believe it and it was true what I thought had happened.

He is a gambler who loves new games but gets sucked into games he can't play properly.
He must try to leave friends who are bad influences so that he does not return to gambling again and can organize his life. Indeed, friendship can sometimes have a bad influence on us, so we must be able to choose friends who really care about their fellow friends. But if he is a gambler, he should not get together with fellow gamblers because that can also have a worse effect. After all, he will see that there are friends who can win a lot of money. It would make him want to try it, so he would decide to use a lot of money. Gambling does not win more often for most people. It will only give them more frequent losses. So it's up to them because it's a choice they must consider before making a decision.
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June 29, 2023, 02:28:41 PM
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Seeing other people's game sessions on social media and live streaming is not a good thing for beginners because it can generate curiosity and the desire to win just like what they see.
A great gambler is someone who can be responsible for their actions and choices when gambling, besides that the goal is just to have fun and add experience.
I have seen lots of novice gamblers who have broken down and lost a lot of things because they were too obsessed with game sessions being carried out by other gamblers.
Beginners find it difficult to stop themselves from trying gambling games. Moreover, they often see other people being able to get big wins. But if beginners have good self-control, they will not be easily tempted even if their friends invite them to try their luck at gambling. And yes, those beginners should be able to be responsible when they play gambling so they don't have to lose a lot of money. But unfortunately, the temptation to get big wins keeps coming from many influencers or even their own friends. And that makes it hard for them to quit gambling, even if it's only for a moment.
For those gamblers who have high emotions and excessive curiosity, it is really not recommended to watch gambling broadcasts carried out by influencers because it will only trigger the desire to be able to get the same win.
I met a friend a few days ago who also likes to gamble and he has lost a lot of things just because he followed the advice of fellow gamblers he knows so that in the end he had to accept a big loss sadly.
Previously I always advised him to leave his colleagues who could have a bad influence but he still didn't believe it and it was true what I thought had happened.

He is a gambler who loves new games but gets sucked into games he can't play properly.

Those influencer are paid from casino and those video they make are those videos that they are already win not those losses one at that's the reason why some of their viewers feel greedy to gamble because they will see an always and easy win by the influencer.  So out of curiosity they will try to gamble with big amounts without knowing that there's a small percentage of winning when they are playing.

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June 30, 2023, 03:11:41 AM
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Seeing other people's game sessions on social media and live streaming is not a good thing for beginners because it can generate curiosity and the desire to win just like what they see.
A great gambler is someone who can be responsible for their actions and choices when gambling, besides that the goal is just to have fun and add experience.
I have seen lots of novice gamblers who have broken down and lost a lot of things because they were too obsessed with game sessions being carried out by other gamblers.
That's right, there are so many beginners who have lost a lot of money because they were too ambitious to earn a lot of money from gambling in a short time. Even though that's not what they see and they need prior knowledge about the gambling they are betting on so they can understand the risks they get if they use too many bets. On the other hand, this action actually makes them run out of money if they feel they are losing continuously and that can interfere with the brain's performance to become chaotic if they cannot control themselves.
A lot of newbies or beginners have that kind of mindset because they watch influencers stream their gambling activities and they see that they are winning significantly high amounts from gambling with pretty high bankrolls, so they start thinking that they might be able to do it as well if they have a pretty high bankroll, with that thought, some start gambling if they have money, some even gamble by taking loans thinking they will repay it once they win something big.

Taking loans for gambling is one of the biggest mistakes one can make in their life, you can never repay a loan that you take for gambling because there is no guarantee of you winning something significant enough to do that, one shouldn't take loans unless they know they have another source of income which they can use to repay it.

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June 30, 2023, 03:52:48 AM
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Those influencer are paid from casino and those video they make are those videos that they are already win not those losses one at that's the reason why some of their viewers feel greedy to gamble because they will see an always and easy win by the influencer.  So out of curiosity they will try to gamble with big amounts without knowing that there's a small percentage of winning when they are playing.
unless those spectators are professional gamblers or experienced gamblers. when an experienced gambler, when they see a video shared by an influencer, they will never assume that it really happened in real life because experienced gamblers know that all of that is just a way for influencers to attract the attention of their fans to believe and immediately register and bet immediately.
this is a stark warning to novice gamblers not to get too greedy after seeing any gambling video shared on social media as it will only make matters worse.

for me, any video shared by influencers on social media, I consider it just entertainment that is only to be watched but doesn't need to be an example.

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June 30, 2023, 04:22:47 AM
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It's not that difficult to gather people to gamble, even I have a lot of gambling friends, but rarely do they want to register under my referrals, because they know I will benefit from their losses, fortunately I'm not someone who likes to take advantage of friends' losses. , so I better promote my referral link to people outside of my friendship.
You might have misunderstood what gambling is. Of course, you'll earn from your friends' losses because they played under your referral. However, the fact that you think you'll take advantage means you already presume that they will lose their money when they gamble. Otherwise, you would just discourage them from gambling.

Well, if that is the case for me, I would be glad to profit from their losses rather than the site taking all the profit.

Besides, there's nothing personal; it's business. They gamble to have fun and a chance to win, but losing is part of the game.

You are right, if a crypto gambling site platform has a referral link and the person who signed up is under your link and is addicted to this gambling, at this point you win with him, because of every deposit he makes and plays is there and you can earn a commission there even if you don't gamble on the site platform that you shared with that person. This is the advantage of the referral bonus. It also means that if you look at what a casino pays you, it does not come from their pocket or earnings, but also from the money used for gambling by gamblers or players of their gambling platform.

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June 30, 2023, 11:34:02 AM
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Seeing other people's game sessions on social media and live streaming is not a good thing for beginners because it can generate curiosity and the desire to win just like what they see.
A great gambler is someone who can be responsible for their actions and choices when gambling, besides that the goal is just to have fun and add experience.
I have seen lots of novice gamblers who have broken down and lost a lot of things because they were too obsessed with game sessions being carried out by other gamblers.
That's right, there are so many beginners who have lost a lot of money because they were too ambitious to earn a lot of money from gambling in a short time. Even though that's not what they see and they need prior knowledge about the gambling they are betting on so they can understand the risks they get if they use too many bets. On the other hand, this action actually makes them run out of money if they feel they are losing continuously and that can interfere with the brain's performance to become chaotic if they cannot control themselves.
A lot of newbies or beginners have that kind of mindset because they watch influencers stream their gambling activities and they see that they are winning significantly high amounts from gambling with pretty high bankrolls, so they start thinking that they might be able to do it as well if they have a pretty high bankroll, with that thought, some start gambling if they have money, some even gamble by taking loans thinking they will repay it once they win something big.

Taking loans for gambling is one of the biggest mistakes one can make in their life, you can never repay a loan that you take for gambling because there is no guarantee of you winning something significant enough to do that, one shouldn't take loans unless they know they have another source of income which they can use to repay it.
The influencers flashing their gambling victories is a shiny lure for novices. They see only the sparkle and win, oblivious to the hidden losses and torments of addiction. It's like gazing at a grandiose cake, blind to the decay within. Borrowing for gambling is like taking a leap of faith from a precipice, dreaming of a cash cushion. The initial thrill morphs into a crushing debt burden. The cardinal rule: don't wager what losing would hurt. This applies doubly for borrowed bucks!

Imagine if gambling platforms came with reality check pop-ups, like cigarette pack warnings. "Using loaned money to gamble might mean a future of noodle dinners and staggering debts" - a potent caution against the lurking perils.

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June 30, 2023, 12:29:17 PM
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For those gamblers who have high emotions and excessive curiosity, it is really not recommended to watch gambling broadcasts carried out by influencers because it will only trigger the desire to be able to get the same win.
I met a friend a few days ago who also likes to gamble and he has lost a lot of things just because he followed the advice of fellow gamblers he knows so that in the end he had to accept a big loss sadly.
Previously I always advised him to leave his colleagues who could have a bad influence but he still didn't believe it and it was true what I thought had happened.

He is a gambler who loves new games but gets sucked into games he can't play properly.
I just enlighten my colleagues, notably those who are not addicted to online gambling sites, where it is simple to create accounts, deposit money, and begin betting on games, and there is no stress, unlike when we walk into the center by ourselves and possibly wait for our turn. Displaying online gambling-related advertisements to addicted gamblers is definitely not helping the person, because he or she will go deep inother to uncover every single detail of the site, and before we know it, it's become a worsen scenario where he goes further to borrow or sell properties inother to accumulate money to gamble.

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June 30, 2023, 12:44:03 PM
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When a trader can control himself to not greedy and only make small amount profit, it's mean the trader understood the game.

When a gambler can't control himself, want to gamble everything he have and gamble to earn money, it's mean the gambler didn't understood the game.

With this two sentences, I already beat you. It's not about the trader can't lose any money and the gambler can lose his money, but this is just because of different perspective and not everyone did a same thing.

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June 30, 2023, 02:25:54 PM
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With this two sentences, I already beat you. It's not about the trader can't lose any money and the gambler can lose his money, but this is just because of different perspective and not everyone did a same thing.

The perspective matters, people already understand that gambling is risky and they can play all day without profiting and that becomes an area dreaded not to venture into except you are ready to lose but when they come into trading, the notion of losing is not familiar with them as they have erroneously believe that all investment will lead to profit. This is the challenge with new traders because they throw caution away believing it is all profit taking and no risk involved. They forget that even stock trading or shares of a company can turn out in losses.

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July 04, 2023, 03:38:19 AM
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unless those spectators are professional gamblers or experienced gamblers. when an experienced gambler, when they see a video shared by an influencer, they will never assume that it really happened in real life because experienced gamblers know that all of that is just a way for influencers to attract the attention of their fans to believe and immediately register and bet immediately.
this is a stark warning to novice gamblers not to get too greedy after seeing any gambling video shared on social media as it will only make matters worse.

for me, any video shared by influencers on social media, I consider it just entertainment that is only to be watched but doesn't need to be an example.
We must always look beyond the surface, it is obvious that an influencer which is sharing a video of themselves gambling has the intention of not only entertaining their fans, but they are also trying to create an incentive for their fans to gamble and earn some money with the referrals they may get.

Once you acknowledge that obvious truth then whatever results the influencer may get during the video will not affect you, as you will know that whatever profits they are getting cannot be gotten by you, as you cannot replicate their methods due to your lack of a casino sponsorship.

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With this two sentences, I already beat you. It's not about the trader can't lose any money and the gambler can lose his money, but this is just because of different perspective and not everyone did a same thing.

The perspective matters, people already understand that gambling is risky and they can play all day without profiting and that becomes an area dreaded not to venture into except you are ready to lose but when they come into trading, the notion of losing is not familiar with them as they have erroneously believe that all investment will lead to profit. This is the challenge with new traders because they throw caution away believing it is all profit taking and no risk involved. They forget that even stock trading or shares of a company can turn out in losses.

This has a point.

Some people see that trading gives easy money when in fact, it doesn't. Trading has its risks too especially if you don't know the necessary information the moment you decided to enter. You might even go back to zero immediately after you have made a wrong decision. In a matter of minutes or several hours, if you decided to go all in without properly analyzing the market trend, your funds can be liquidated. It's the perspective and expectations of people that often lead to disappointments. Hence, it should be established that there are pros and cons in everything you want to do. Not everything is as promising as they might sound or appeal to you. Trading isn't for fun and for the faint hearted. It specially isn't made for those people who want to get rich quick because you can't get rich overnight in trading. It takes time to learn, to practice what you have learned, and to eventually get the results you want.
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July 04, 2023, 08:46:51 AM
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It's not that difficult to gather people to gamble, even I have a lot of gambling friends, but rarely do they want to register under my referrals, because they know I will benefit from their losses, fortunately I'm not someone who likes to take advantage of friends' losses. , so I better promote my referral link to people outside of my friendship.
You might have misunderstood what gambling is. Of course, you'll earn from your friends' losses because they played under your referral. However, the fact that you think you'll take advantage means you already presume that they will lose their money when they gamble. Otherwise, you would just discourage them from gambling.

Well, if that is the case for me, I would be glad to profit from their losses rather than the site taking all the profit.

Besides, there's nothing personal; it's business. They gamble to have fun and a chance to win, but losing is part of the game.
I understand about gambling, it's just that maybe we have different views on getting that referral bonus even though I know it's a business and they gamble too because of the risks of playing gambling, let's say they actively become addicts. I might feel very guilty if it was my close friends. but for others at least I never saw them with my own eyes.

Sometimes I've seen my friends go to my house just to borrow money to gamble with the excuse of eating, but I know that he wants to gamble, that's why I have a reason not to invite my friends to register gambling from my referrals even though I can get the profit. for them too, but all of that is just my thoughts. Personally, I prefer gambling alone than gambling with my friends, especially if they know I'm actively gambling somewhere.  Grin

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July 04, 2023, 09:23:11 AM
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When a trader can control himself to not greedy and only make small amount profit, it's mean the trader understood the game.

When a gambler can't control himself, want to gamble everything he have and gamble to earn money, it's mean the gambler didn't understood the game.

With this two sentences, I already beat you. It's not about the trader can't lose any money and the gambler can lose his money, but this is just because of different perspective and not everyone did a same thing.

Why can't a trader lose money?
If a trader trades futures, then he has a very good chance of losing everything, maybe the same as a gambler, or maybe more. If we are talking about spot trading, then a trader can also lose money, but he has a much better chance of saving money, it just can be spread out over time. I agree that trading is safer than gambling, even if a player understands the game, he still has more chances to lose money than a spot trader.

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