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May 26, 2023, 08:59:33 AM
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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.
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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.
in deed further more churches now are days are not preaching and teaching the people their right in christ so many people don't know their place in christ and if you lack this knowledge you have lost your place and given it to inorance.
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Being a religious person is not by face or mouth, it has to do with the real practice of what the religious beliefs says, many are just a figure head and are just following the crowd without doing the main practice, it's what deals with lifestyle and patterned way of life, if you're doing something over time and have no results to show for it, then it's high time to change the way of approach in doing it and check yourself.

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May 26, 2023, 04:00:15 PM
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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.

Let me answer. The answer won't be complete, because the knowledge of mankind isn't complete. But first, doesn't your browser have a spellchecker?

When Jesus was being tempted in the wilderness after not eating for 40 days and nights, the Tempter (Satan) came to Him and said, "If you are the Son of God, command that these stones be made into bread." Jesus answered, "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God."

What words have come out of the mouth of God? Consider creation... the 6 days that God spoke everything into being. God made the physics of the universe. Nobody - not even scientists - know all the physics that God spoke into the universe. In fact, Jesus is the only man Who knows all the physics of God, because, "In Him are found all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge."

This is the same Jesus Who said, "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes out of the mouth of God." So, to start with, we need to recognize that all of our health and miracle-doing have to do with "every word that comes out of the mouth of God." In other words, the universe is a unit, one unit, and whatever happens anywhere affects everything everywhere.

More directly speaking, speaking to your points, when is it that you are contradicting the things that you ask for, and the healthfullness that you want to have, simply by being ignorant of how things work, but also by wanting things that are against God and the physics of the universe? Ephesians 4:10:
He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.
So, maybe you don't have the great faith in Jesus that you think you have.

This is a simple answer, and really, just a start. There is so much more, that a book could be written. Rather, fill yourself on the book that has been written, the Bible... especially the New Testament. Find out if you really have the faith that you think you have, because, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing comes by the word of Christ." Really fill yourself, all the time, throughout the day... every day.

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May 26, 2023, 04:26:07 PM
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Being a christian doesn't guarantee you total freedom from poverty irrespective of your believe and obedience to the word of Jesus Christ which is your saviour you still need to do things that will make you stay out of poverty and that is by you working or establishing a business that will give you money. Being a Christian alone cannot put food on your table any one who believes that is only being ignorant, the Bible book of 2 Thessalonians 3:1 will give you more insight about the topic of the Op but saying that Jesus Christ became poor that you might be rich doesn't mean he expects you to fold your arms and expect money to come to your that's crazy.

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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.

You expect Christ to send money for you from the sky. You want to be in your house and angels will knock on your door and give you a briefcase filled with dollars or maybe send some Bitcoin to your wallet. If you like have knowledge of the entire Bible, if you are so lazy or uninformed to work hard and smart, you will remain poor. Some religious people are lazy because they believe that God will do everything for them, so they just relax and wait on God.

I feel pained when I see people gathering in churches on Monday mornings, clapping, singing, and praying to God to give them riches. Instead of them going out and looking for how to earn a living no matter how small, the prefer to wait on God to provide all their needs. I know many people that don't belong to any religious creed but they are very rich because they practice the principles of wealth.

OP you also need to know that Christ never promised that every Christian will be materially or financially based on world standards. If you can provide all your needs, you are rich. We also should note that Jesus promised us wealth but not on earth. Don't forget that he is preparing a place for us in heaven where the streets are made of gold.

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May 26, 2023, 08:41:47 PM
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,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.
"to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims"
I don't quite understand what you mean by that statement!! Could you explain more what you mean here.

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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.

omg bro ...sorry but what disgusting words -.- i am a christain too and i guess you completely understood something wrong there. God is not your serf! He is not a Jeene that grants whiches all day long just because you are christian. what do you think. For me it sounds like you DO really KNOW exactly what God wants and what we are supposed to be ore become in his eyes, but if you know so much, there is no need for you to believe anymore. For me a true believer doesnt know anything about god. We just believe. But not such absurd things like you.

if you want to know why you are not rhich right know, dont blame god, he gave you the free will, so blame yourself!
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For me the problem is that you lump together all types of Christianity and all types of people who are in some way Christian, while some are active believers, while others are by family upbringing but are not very active.

In The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism, Max Weber showed, or at least tried to show how Protestantism played an essential role in the development of capitalism because for Protestants doing well in business in this life was a sign that they would do well in the next. Meanwhile, Catholics were more concerned with suffering in this life, because God would reward them in the next for all that suffering. This is put in a crude and very summarised way, but it serves to give you an idea.

So, you cannot talk about Christians and say that they are all poor because that is a generalisation that has nothing to do with reality. Among Christians there are very different economic situations today, which are not determined by their Christianity, and in any case if they are Protestants, they are more likely to do well economically.


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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.
Many people believe for the fact that they are christ followers they don't need to bother themselves to struggle much,  christ will give them all they want. I have come across people who are supposed to work to earn money but instead they just pray and ask God to give them money. Life does not work This way, even the bible talks about works written in  several parts, God does not give money from above without work. You must work first and he will bless the work of your hands, praying without work is laziness.

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May 27, 2023, 08:30:17 AM
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Christ became poor for us to be rich,he sacrificed for us and gave us some kingdom principles that will should apply if we want to be rich as Christians, but most people don't wanna be patients and make sacrifices, they just wanna be enjoying, it's doesn't work that way, they're natural principles to prosper, you don't have to be Christian, just work with the principle and see how your life will be transformed.
Hence, we must not depend on the promising of God, but on his commands and principles of the kingdom
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May 27, 2023, 10:57:31 AM
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Heaven helps those who help themselves, if you think that because you are a Christian, everything will work out to your favour,without you putting things in order. Laziness in most cases can lead someone to live in poverty. Our characters are also another problem to is keeping one in a very low level of living, you are a Christian and you don't practice the ways of God,you see everyone as sinners and you are the holiest because of that you allow your ego to take over you and you think Christ will be able with you.

As a good and devoted Christian, you need to have a job or a skill which brings income for you and God will always flourish the work of your hands. You might not be too rich but you will never lack anything as God will always provide for you through your means of income.

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May 27, 2023, 01:25:16 PM
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 I think to be christian, you have to be Christ-like. Although because of your English, your point is being misunderstood but if I get you clearly, you are trying to say that it's expedient that believers are also supposed to be rich since our Heavenly Father is the owner of the universe, yeah? I got you. But let me clear you on some things;

1. Being a Christian is not just a status, it's a lifestyle. You can't claim to be living a Christlike life but people around you can't say same.
2. Being a Christian doesn't automatically make you a spirit. You are a human and hence you must work to earn a living.

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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.
You can't just because of your status as a Christian expect things to fall on your lap without working for it, bruh. Even Christ, while on Earth was a carpenter. Even though he had the power to live comfortably, he still chose to earn his living. So? Who then are you emulating if you sit idle and expect manna to fall from heaven?

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If you’re a Christian who considers yourself Christ-like then wouldn’t it make sense for you to be poor? Just a tongue in cheek response I know, but not everyone values their life by the amount of wealth they are able to obtain. Especially in the church, where many people’s goal is to help others, not enrich themselves.

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May 27, 2023, 02:55:46 PM
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If you’re a Christian who considers yourself Christ-like then wouldn’t it make sense for you to be poor? Just a tongue in cheek response I know, but not everyone values their life by the amount of wealth they are able to obtain. Especially in the church, where many people’s goal is to help others, not enrich themselves.

This is right in the Christian fold. A true believer of Christ wants to live like Christ like being meek and not commit all atrocities that politicians commit and embezzle common wealth and store for their families. A Christian wants to meet up with God in heaven and so they always concern themselves with salvation and not greed for money. Like the bible said the love of money is the route of evil. Riches come from God so if it comes to a Christian that will be fine and if it doesn't, fine also is the life of a true Christian.
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May 27, 2023, 11:43:15 PM
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God pays well, and especially if one does it from his heart.

Matthew 19:27-30:
27Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?”

28Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.

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28Peter said to him, “We have left all we had to follow you!”

29“Truly I tell you,” Jesus said to them, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or sisters or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God 30will fail to receive many times as much in this age, and in the age to come eternal life.”


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May 28, 2023, 11:03:04 PM
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why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the existence of cross carpeting to muslims.
Are you serving God to make you just financially rich? If that is just your reason, you do not need to be a Christian to be rich, Christianity is not a criteria for financial riches.

why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be
You have given meaning to this scripture based on what you think, you think of only financial riches. Count the blessings you have before the money you have, financial riches is only on type of riches, there are others.

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May 29, 2023, 11:42:29 AM
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Being a Christian doesn't make you rich or poor. God Almighty has made everything available for us to make use of, the only way we can make use of them is to apply our wisdom to them to bring out a fortune from what He has made available for us to utilize for survival.

God says that I will bless the works of your hands, and the only way He will do that is for you to engage in something but, unfortunately, religion has blinded so many people to believe that their daily bread will fall from heaven without working just because they are Christian.

Remember, Christianity is not the only religion on this earth. There are so many other religions that people have their beliefs in. If you check those people who are not Christian, you will find out that they are doing well on their side without their religion bringing wealth to them.

Having said that, religion doesn't bring riches or poverty to anyone. It's your engagement towards the work of life that will seek your breakthrough in life.

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^^^ Right!

When Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes out of the mouth of God," He is showing us that the universe operates by laws, the laws of physics. Make the laws work for yourself, and you will receive the things you desire. But always make God your focus in everything you do.

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Yes in deed as a christian,christ like and christ followers and we are surposed to have every things in as a redemmed child of God,as bible said.so my question is that why are christian still poor,when the bible says christ was rich and for our sake he was made poor that we should be rich,then why are there still poor christians,to the exstent of cross carpeting to muslims.i think we the so call christians are the problem,1 the knowledge of the scripture is not there that is why they know not how to enter the city.
Concerning Christians is that Christians don't have a one particular religion the following they have different kind of life their lives so I believe that that is one of the things that is causing problem in Christian life if Christians can help each other I believe that it will create many impact of them to elevate each other for best of that does not help each other that is why they continue to remain poor

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