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May 27, 2023, 05:50:35 PM
Last edit: May 27, 2023, 07:02:17 PM by Saira10
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This user is using the Ai tool that is prohibited in the Signature Campaign and doing scams of almost 80$ in the signature campaign. Most of the post of this user is written by AI Text Generated Tool please take a look and check the details I have mentioned.
Scammer profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3431739

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someone's habit of making topics that are trending outside the forum will be brought to the forum as well, this happens because these issues are being widely discussed such as COVID-19, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the rejection of the USD rejection. so often such topics become the dominant topics of discussion in forum a because of their relevance to the current situation and their impact on everyday life.
However, in bringing such topics to forums it is sometimes important to ensure that the information shared is accurate and valid, and that the discussion proceeds in a way that is dignified and respectful of different views. This will help ensure that the discussion goes well and benefits all members involved in the discussion. I think it's normal for things like that to happen in forums about discussing topics that are being talked about outside the forum.

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What we need to know Entrepreneurship education plays a very good role in developing the insights and skills of students and students. Because through entrepreneurship education we can help foster an entrepreneurial spirit among the younger generation and prepare them to face challenges and opportunities in today's business world.

Entrepreneurship education at schools and universities can provide opportunities for students to learn about various aspects of business such as business planning, management, marketing, finance and innovation. This really helps them understand the processes and strategies involved in starting and running a business. And with entrepreneurship education can also help improve creativity skills, problem solving, leadership and communication skills. because this is really needed in developing an entrepreneurial spirit and preparing students to become successful entrepreneurs.

Especially with today's economy, where employment opportunities are limited, having entrepreneurial knowledge and skills can provide a good alternative for students and students to create their own jobs. They can see new business opportunities, develop innovative ideas in business and turn them into successful businesses. The Government's role in emphasizing the entrepreneurship education curriculum in schools and universities. With the development of a curriculum that includes entrepreneurship subjects, training and guidance for teachers and lecturers to increase their understanding of entrepreneurship.

With a strong entrepreneurship education, there will be an increase in the number of innovative and competitive young entrepreneurs, which in turn will drive economic growth, create jobs, and have a positive impact on society as a whole.

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AI Generated Content Regularly Uses in Signature compaign
Social media was originally created as a platform to socialize and connect with people from all over the world. However, over time, social media users began to use it as a means of marketing their business. This is because social media is an effective way to promote products or services to a wider audience and build relationships with customers.

It is undeniable that many businesses and companies use social media to expand market reach and attract new customers. By using the right social media platforms, businesses can build their brand, generate more sales, and increase their online presence. However, that does not mean that social media has lost its original function as a means of socializing. Many social media users still use it to connect with friends and family, expand social networks, and seek information and entertainment.

In conclusion, even though social media is currently also used for business, this platform still maintains its function as a means to socialize and connect with other people.

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May 27, 2023, 06:16:39 PM
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I don't have any experience with that tool so I don't know how accurate it is, hence I've given that account only a neutral tag.
This should draw enough attention and I expect campaign managers will check this out.

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May 27, 2023, 07:24:50 PM
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This is interesting, first the accused user exposed another user @Shan85 for double dipping in signature campiagn and now he's being accused of using AI to generate post to earn from signature.

I have caught some users in the past using AI to generate post here in the forum and if I'm to use the same criteria or tools I used bask then to judge this present case then I'll say the accused is guilty, although I couldn't get chatGPT to generate a similar post for me just be copying and pasting the title of the thread like I did in previous cases.

But let's see what he has to say concerning this and if it turns out to be true then he's no different from @Shan85.
@Saira10 I saw that you dropped a post in the signature thread that the accused user participated in, you should also consider PMing the campaign manager and also @bbigtart for a quicker response.

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May 27, 2023, 08:47:11 PM
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so I got curious and run the quoted texts shared by the OP through the AI content detector that can be found on nutildah's thread AI-generated post discussion thread: how to identify & report. after running the quoted texts through the AI content detectors, all of them(at least the ones that I can access) shows a result that the texts contains AI content.

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May 27, 2023, 09:01:06 PM
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PM me a bech32 address. I am observing the thread. If he found guilty then you will receive the payment instead of him.

Cheers,

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May 27, 2023, 09:06:05 PM
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This is interesting, first the accused user exposed another user @Shan85 for double dipping in signature campiagn and now he's being accused of using AI to generate post to earn from signature.



I deleted my positive feedback it's very likely that he's using AI to create these posts 40% is already too high to consider a post using AI it's ironic for someone to catch a cheater when he himself is a cheater, but of course, we like to hear his side of the story.

If part of his posting habit is checking meta he'll encounter many threads against the use of and if he is reading the rules of the campaign he is applying they have big warnings about the use of AI, Royse even rewards people who can catch participants of his campaign using AI.

Very unfortunate he is getting a lot of merits just checked his account and he is still getting a lot of it, he's good for senior account rank but he blew it.



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May 27, 2023, 09:44:51 PM
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This is interesting, first the accused user exposed another user @Shan85 for double dipping in signature campiagn and now he's being accused of using AI to generate post to earn from signature.
Looks like someone has managed to get his revenge properly, just my hunch.

But let's see what he has to say concerning this and if it turns out to be true then he's no different from @Shan85.
@Saira10 I saw that you dropped a post in the signature thread that the accused user participated in, you should also consider PMing the campaign manager and also @bbigtart for a quicker response.
The @Shan85 case is of course very different from the case that was alleged against @bbigtart. @bbigtart seems to have cheat himself about the quality of posts that seem to be made up of his thoughts and knowledge - but that would be a lie if in the end he just used AI to create those posts. The campaign manager banned him from any campaign - and now he deserves to be on the manager's blacklist.

I also don't know if a user using AI deserves to be called scammer or not, but he's just dishonest and have no ethics about its quality which is not liked by any manager and many forum members in principle.

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I also don't know if a user using AI deserves to be called a scammer or not, but he's just dishonest and have no ethics about its quality which is not liked by any manager and many forum members in principle.

He can be considered a scammer because he is getting paid to do the right thing and he is ripping his manager off money that comes from advertisers, if he is not a part of the campaign we can just call him spammer or forum rule breaker, but the fact that he is getting incentivized for posting and he has rules coming from bounty manager to follow, so he is a cheater and a scammer if proven guilty.

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Can you add links through which we can verify that the text is written by AI, or at least send it to me in private, or I will send some texts to you? I see many posts that seem unrelated to the topic wording or closer to AI than a personal post.

I also don't know if a user using AI deserves to be called scammer or not, but he's just dishonest and have no ethics about its quality which is not liked by any manager and many forum members in principle.

The user has used AI to get more money while wearing a signature, which is a kind of scam, so it deserves a negative sign whenever this information is confirmed.



But let's see what he has to say concerning this and if it turns out to be true then he's no different from @Shan85.
@Saira10 I saw that you dropped a post in the signature thread that the accused user participated in, you should also consider PMing the campaign manager and also @bbigtart for a quicker response.

The @Shan85 case is of course very different from the case that was alleged against @bbigtart.
The funny thing about the story is that @bbigtart was the one who discovered @Shan85's scam

Hello Hhampuz, Sorry in advance if I saw it wrong and misjudged.

I saw on the Speandsheet @Shan85 not using the signature code Duelbits but he is receiving payouts every week. He also uses the signature campaign BetterCallRaul.it which is managed by Royse777. And there he also gets paid every week.

I do not mean anything. It's just that I don't think it's fair if he gets paid from two different signature campaigns every week.

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I also don't know if a user using AI deserves to be called a scammer or not, but he's just dishonest and have no ethics about its quality which is not liked by any manager and many forum members in principle.

He can be considered a scammer because he is getting paid to do the right thing and he is ripping his manager off money that comes from advertisers, if he is not a part of the campaign we can just call him spammer or forum rule breaker, but the fact that he is getting incentivized for posting and he has rules coming from bounty manager to follow, so he is a cheater and a scammer if proven guilty.

He just waste waste the opportunity given by the campaign manager. If he just do pure effort to post quality contents for sure he will never go in that situation. But unfortunately his lazy so I agree to people calling him a scammer since he choose to cheat on his campaign just to get money without doing big efforts.

Good that he is busted since this case remind to other people that they should not use AI tool to take advantage on their campaigns.

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Can you add links through which we can verify that the text is written by AI, or at least send it to me in private, or I will send some texts to you? I see many posts that seem unrelated to the topic wording or closer to AI than a personal post.

Sure I will provide the links to verify content is AI-written Take a look at these links and verify. I randomly see his post while reading I see it was not human generated post then I checked by AI detected Tools this user created most of his posts with AI tools.

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https://sapling.ai/ai-content-detector/066c47e3836fd2ddc4176137d771b150

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I checked the posted content using undetectable.ai. A paid tool that detect whether a content is written using any AI app. If you are willing to pay a subscription fee, it will then rewrite the same content that will be undetectable to a certain extent. The app does have a good reputation in detecting AI content. The result are similar to what OP and other fellow members have posted on this thread.



I won't be surprised  to find that Saira10 is another alt account of Shan85. When you check the post history 80% are for application for bounty campaign.

Anyways this user should be removed immediately from the bounty campaign. As there are multiple examples submitted by fellow members proving a use of an AI to generate replies. When money is involved it should be considered as a scam. Those who have given positive trust should reconsider it.

Another example that the signature campaign BM's should work on their onboarding process and to save themselves of such scams. A good idea would be to hire an individual only to detect whether participants under their signature campaign are using AI.
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I admit that I was wrong. I used AI ChatGPT at first I didn't know it was strictly banned in forums. But these few days I just found out, coupled with this incident I also realized that what I did was wrong and fatal.

I'm still new to this forum, if it's a fatal and unforgivable mistake, I'll also understand.

For everything I apologize, especially for @Royse777 because I have made a mistake that caused many parties to suffer from my mistake. To be honest, if I realized from the start maybe I could get away from AI ChatGPT. But not all of my posts are the result of AI ChatGPT, only a few.

I am ready to accept the consequences of what happened to my account. Even if I am labeled neutral, I will accept it because it is my own fault. If I am given another chance I will thank you.

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I will refrain from tagging bbigtart in this case. I know my opinion is not the most popular here, as I understand that it is one thing for someone to engage in massive copy-pasting of AI-generated texts and another to use AI to gather information and from there rewrite, modify or extend what is generated. I see that in the case of bbigtart we would have both cases.

While here in the forum the debate focuses on how to stop AI from being used on it, outside this cave the debate is simply how it is already being integrated into our lives. The latest is that google is going to integrate it with the search engine. In the same way that first google lens came out and now you have it next to the search engine without having to go and open the App separately, the integration of AI with search engines will allow us to get more accurate information faster and with even less effort.

The debate reminds me of the people you would still meet years ago who refused to have cell phones because they said the powerful would have us monitored and such.

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I deleted my positive feedback it's very likely that he's using AI to create these posts 40% is already too high to consider a post using AI it's ironic for someone to catch a cheater when he himself is a cheater, but of course, we like to hear his side of the story.

You need a thief to catch one;)
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I admit that I was wrong. I used AI ChatGPT at first I didn't know it was strictly banned in forums. But these few days I just found out, coupled with this incident I also realized that what I did was wrong and fatal.

I'm still new to this forum, if it's a fatal and unforgivable mistake, I'll also understand.

For everything I apologize, especially for @Royse777 because I have made a mistake that caused many parties to suffer from my mistake. To be honest, if I realized from the start maybe I could get away from AI ChatGPT. But not all of my posts are the result of AI ChatGPT, only a few.

I am ready to accept the consequences of what happened to my account. Even if I am labeled neutral, I will accept it because it is my own fault. If I am given another chance I will thank you.

You were accepted in the campaign of Royse and you didn't read the rules?


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▶️ If you find AI-written posts for this campaign and report them to me publicly or via PM, you will receive the weekly payment instead of the accused campaigner (if your report was successful). Please include as much evidence as possible when submitting a report.[/left]

This is quote from the signature campaign post where you were selected as a participant and if you read it carefully then it's clearly written that the manager is strongly against AI generated text and use of AI-written text is totally prohibited in all campaigns run by Royse sir. I think almost every campaign manager is against AI-written text because the AI-written text is generated without an effort from the user, and most of the time the AI generator could cause trouble with wrong information.

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I admit that I was wrong. I used AI ChatGPT at first I didn't know it was strictly banned in forums. But these few days I just found out, coupled with this incident I also realized that what I did was wrong and fatal.

I'm still new to this forum, if it's a fatal and unforgivable mistake, I'll also understand.

For everything I apologize, especially for @Royse777 because I have made a mistake that caused many parties to suffer from my mistake. To be honest, if I realized from the start maybe I could get away from AI ChatGPT. But not all of my posts are the result of AI ChatGPT, only a few.

I am ready to accept the consequences of what happened to my account. Even if I am labeled neutral, I will accept it because it is my own fault. If I am given another chance I will thank you.

You were accepted in the campaign of Royse and you didn't read the rules?


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💹📈 Bitcointalk Campaign Management 💪🔥 Signature & Bounty.

▶️ If I find campaign members breaching these terms, I will remove them from the campaign immediately.
▶️ If you find AI-written posts for this campaign and report them to me publicly or via PM, you will receive the weekly payment instead of the accused campaigner (if your report was successful). Please include as much evidence as possible when submitting a report.[/left]

This is quote from the signature campaign post where you were selected as a participant and if you read it carefully then it's clearly written that the manager is strongly against AI generated text and use of AI-written text is totally prohibited in all campaigns run by Royse sir. I think almost every campaign manager is against AI-written text because the AI-written text is generated without an effort from the user, and most of the time the AI generator could cause trouble with wrong information.
The user was probably aware but is hoping for mercy because he admitted guilt. Ultimately it's up to the manager what happens, but I think people found guilty of this should be excluded from campaigns for a certain period of time. Hard lesson but 1 that needs taught.

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This is interesting, first the accused user exposed another user @Shan85 for double dipping in signature campiagn and now he's being accused of using AI to generate post to earn from signature.

I have caught some users in the past using AI to generate post here in the forum and if I'm to use the same criteria or tools I used bask then to judge this present case then I'll say the accused is guilty, although I couldn't get chatGPT to generate a similar post for me just be copying and pasting the title of the thread like I did in previous cases.

But let's see what he has to say concerning this and if it turns out to be true then he's no different from @Shan85.
@Saira10 I saw that you dropped a post in the signature thread that the accused user participated in, you should also consider PMing the campaign manager and also @bbigtart for a quicker response.

Let's go further down the chain. If you check the address of the OP, then the statistics show that he is not clean as a tear either.
If you check the address: 0x7519671882ccbc4aA7254EEf144d8D7B854F9C8d, which first appeared on the forum, then the owner of it is an account that is banned. True, the post itself was deleted, which is not surprising for cheaters. And accordingly, the OP violates the prohibition rule.
Nothing personal to the OP, but the facts speak of breaking the rule.

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 #19

Another example that the signature campaign BM's should work on their onboarding process and to save themselves of such scams. A good idea would be to hire an individual only to detect whether participants under their signature campaign are using AI.


The pay grade for a bounty manager is only enough for them while adding extra employee that will check regularly each post will just an additional cost. Royse have a bounty program dedicated for busting this kind of cheating. I think it's already enough to bust them using the payment of the cheater.

I admit that I was wrong. I used AI ChatGPT at first I didn't know it was strictly banned in forums. But these few days I just found out, coupled with this incident I also realized that what I did was wrong and fatal.

Using of AI tool is not ban in the forum. You just violated the rules set by your manager for the campaign that you are currently working. It's up to the manager on how he will view this case especially the tagging. But use of AI is not banned in the forum.

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May 28, 2023, 04:14:01 PM
Last edit: May 28, 2023, 05:49:49 PM by elevates
 #20

Another example that the signature campaign BM's should work on their onboarding process and to save themselves of such scams. A good idea would be to hire an individual only to detect whether participants under their signature campaign are using AI.


The pay grade for a bounty manager is only enough for them while adding extra employee that will check regularly each post will just an additional cost. Royse have a bounty program dedicated for busting this kind of cheating. I think it's already enough to bust them using the payment of the cheater.

Doubt it!
A minimum of $50/week let's assume a BM earns. Hire someone who can detect for just $10 per week. Considering 5 projects the hired individual gets paid $50 per month. Nothing is impossible if a BM wants to safeguard the brand name. Being transparent and professional is an USP of a BM. Being proactive makes it more lucrative for a project to employ that BM.


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