The Ivan Toney's Case and You

[alastantiger]

Latest news headline on different news outlets

Ivan Toney placed 13 historical bets on his own club to lose and has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction, as the written reasons for his eight-month ban were revealed by the FA.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12889780/ivan-toney-brentford-striker-diagnosed-with-gambling-addiction-as-fa-release-written-reasons-into-eight-month-ban

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.  Although there are critics of the ban by the FA, in my opinion, it doesn't hold any water. The deed has been done, and even if they overturn their judgement one thing is sure; he has a gambling problem. It is already out there and will be there forever.

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

[1715316566]

1715316566

[1715316566]

1715316566

[1715316566]

1715316566

[1715316566]

1715316566

[1715316566]

1715316566

[Oshosondy]

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.

How is his career over? He is banned for eight months, not for life.

the Brentford striker was banned from all football activity for eight months last week following breaches of the FA's gambling regulations

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

It is easy to know a friend that is an addict because friends do reveal themselves to other friends if they are gambling. About family, you should try and study how all your family member react to situations. If you see any of your family checking phone or laptop, happy before and just gone say like mood swing, that is one of the first sign of something to be going wrong which can be gambling. It is good to also educate your children in all areas of life, including the side effects and negative impacts of gambling.

[Cantsay]

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

I don't think I have ever helped any of my friends who have being struggling with gambling addiction overcome it. If you're really close to them then it won't be difficult to spot them most times you won't even have to do anything they will be the one come up to you and seek for your advice directly, but that will only be possible if you're the open type and the non-judging type.
I have helped with other addictions aside gambling and most times when I see that the case is more than waht I can handle I do refer them to those who have had similar problem in the past and have overcome them for advices, and this type is very effective since the person has had an experience and won't jsut be talking or giving advice based on some studies but instead it will be based on what they themselves did that helped them.

[DoublerHunter]

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.

How is his career over? He is banned for eight months, not for life.

^ Definitely right and in fact from the article.

("We consider this matter closed and look forward to welcoming Ivan back to training in September and seeing him representing Brentford in the Premier League in January.")

On our side, if this happens in real life, if you suspect that someone you know is struggling with a gambling addiction, you can show this situation with empathy, understanding, and support. Let your friend know that you are there for them and willing to support their journey to recovery. Offer to accompany them to have a long off-town vacation if they feel comfortable with it. It is important not to enable their addiction by providing them with money for gambling or covering up their financial losses. Instead, encourage healthy lifestyle alternative activities.

[QueenVera]

I haven't read paid an extreme  attention to any of .y friends  especially  in their choice of career or even their gambling career and I think its time to do so and the only addiction case I've been in one way or the other involved was that of a friends husband and it wasn't a funny one and the husband never knew he was already addicted and gets mad at anyone who thinks he wasn't normal and he also had to sell their car and that was when I had to come in because I was already seeing this marriage at the verge of collapse and it really took me blood and sweat to put back this marriage and also put control control over the husband's betting addiction.
Addiction  is a very strong disease and it takes more than enoughenougg effort to fight it through.

[coin-investor]

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.  Although there are critics of the ban by the FA, in my opinion, it doesn't hold any water. The deed has been done, and even if they overturn their judgement one thing is sure; he has a gambling problem. It is already out there and will be there forever.

That's a sign of a compulsive gambler you are willing to risk your career just so you can gamble now that he is banned he can play all he wants, although he can still appeal by getting help to cure his addiction, if he is important to the team they will appeal he should clear himself first, it will take months or years to cure his addiction if he is serious to get back his mental health and career he can do so, there should be a willingness on his part.

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

If it's a family member I will take it seriously I have seen the many harms brought by gambling addiction I'll do everything to get him professional help first by urging him to do counseling, professionals are better-advising drug addicts instead of families.

[serjent05]

Latest news headline on different news outlets

Ivan Toney placed 13 historical bets on his own club to lose and has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction, as the written reasons for his eight-month ban were revealed by the FA.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12889780/ivan-toney-brentford-striker-diagnosed-with-gambling-addiction-as-fa-release-written-reasons-into-eight-month-ban

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.  Although there are critics of the ban by the FA, in my opinion, it doesn't hold any water. The deed has been done, and even if they overturn their judgement one thing is sure; he has a gambling problem. It is already out there and will be there forever.

It is no news that once a person got addicted, it automatically affect his mode and decisions.  First the person will lose huge amount of money due to uncontrol urge to gamble.  Then when his money is depleted, he will start asking for loans and then his relationship with his family will also be affected.  But if Ivan Toney come into senses and able to cure his addiction, I think he can get an opportunity to redeem himself.

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

It is simple to know, just look at how his financial aspect is faring.  If he is struggling it is obvious that the person is somehow addicted to gambling.  As a friend I can always give him advise to have a medical aid for his gambling addiction.  I may offer some financial assistance if I have the capability.

[cabron]

His career is over. That will make him stop betting, the club Imguess has to watch him for he might find a way to gamble in the toilet room thru his phone. 

He's lucky to have a club who supported him and thers also theraphy for him. For many of the gamblers who are just gambling with no funds for these theraphy, he has to tackle all these by himself. A gambling addict determined to cure himself I think should just find something else to keep him occupied.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Latest news headline on different news outlets

Ivan Toney placed 13 historical bets on his own club to lose and has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction, as the written reasons for his eight-month ban were revealed by the FA.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12889780/ivan-toney-brentford-striker-diagnosed-with-gambling-addiction-as-fa-release-written-reasons-into-eight-month-ban

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.  Although there are critics of the ban by the FA, in my opinion, it doesn't hold any water. The deed has been done, and even if they overturn their judgement one thing is sure; he has a gambling problem. It is already out there and will be there forever.

He might just have to face the ban, but I don't think it will be over for him, yeah sure there are critics around and that's how sports work. No need to overturn it, if he has a gambling addiction then good for him as it was detected this early.

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

As for some of my friends, I also heard that they have a gambling addiction, but never that it destroyed their families or see the bad effect of it. Perhaps they could have made money as well and not losing chunk of money, or they have steady income to cover their gambling addiction.

[Wexnident]

Latest news headline on different news outlets

Ivan Toney placed 13 historical bets on his own club to lose and has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction, as the written reasons for his eight-month ban were revealed by the FA.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12889780/ivan-toney-brentford-striker-diagnosed-with-gambling-addiction-as-fa-release-written-reasons-into-eight-month-ban

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.  Although there are critics of the ban by the FA, in my opinion, it doesn't hold any water. The deed has been done, and even if they overturn their judgement one thing is sure; he has a gambling problem. It is already out there and will be there forever.

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

To be fair, the gambling was actually fine, the dumb thing was betting on his own club. Now that's dumb. Afaik player contracts don't allow them to bet on ANY of their matches at the very least, maybe even in the competition that they're in. I'm surprised it wasn't a complete ban even, just an 8 month one. Now I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't get another case, which means he had a pretty good therapy, if he ever did have one.

I've never had a friend become an addict, well at least not yet. And I honestly don't think any action I do can do anything to help. I'd just be a hypocrite if it ever did happen really. I firmly believe addiction has no cure, you just, well, put it on another thing, which is the best-case solution in most cases.

[Kemarit]

Latest news headline on different news outlets

Ivan Toney placed 13 historical bets on his own club to lose and has been diagnosed with a gambling addiction, as the written reasons for his eight-month ban were revealed by the FA.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12889780/ivan-toney-brentford-striker-diagnosed-with-gambling-addiction-as-fa-release-written-reasons-into-eight-month-ban

The consequence of betting addiction are so huge that it not only affects the individual but also impacts everything around them. Besides having a bad reputation, and facing ban, Ivan's career is already over.  Although there are critics of the ban by the FA, in my opinion, it doesn't hold any water. The deed has been done, and even if they overturn their judgement one thing is sure; he has a gambling problem. It is already out there and will be there forever.

Him as a professional athlete and then later a gambling addict, there is a dire consequences of his action. So I do agree that it might have a impact on his career for now. Although I believed that if he will go to rehab about his gambling addiction and then maybe he can comeback and resuscitate his career later once he understand the negative things that gambling can bring into his life.

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

In my case I can talk to my friends and can relate because I was once a addicted gambler until one day I don't have the means to continue and just like that, I just quit, no money coming in means that I have to stop from gambling for good. I didn't borrow money because again, I don't have a steady job to pay and I doubt that anyone will lend me money. So that will be the story that I told my friends and it seems that they are going over the gambling. They still play but just to have some fun.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

That's a sign of a compulsive gambler you are willing to risk your career just so you can gamble now that he is banned he can play all he wants, although he can still appeal by getting help to cure his addiction, if he is important to the team they will appeal he should clear himself first, it will take months or years to cure his addiction if he is serious to get back his mental health and career he can do so, there should be a willingness on his part.

It is clear that he is not in control of his addiction, as the clearest symptom is that he is unable to stop despite serious negative consequences.

This is not only a question of decorum of not having a player in the league who is a compulsive gambler, it is also a question of fair play: he repeatedly bet on games where his team was playing, sometimes against, but you cannot bet on being an interested party.

Let's hope he can overcome his problems and recover from the addiction.

[Yogee]

His career is over.

Football career as a player? I don't think so - at least not in the near future. People love stories of a 180-degree turnaround and I think that's what his or the club's PR team will do in this case. I won't be surprised if they start featuring him more and showing how hard he trains while on the way to recovery.

His gambling activities may not stop completely but he'll probably become more careful this time.

[tusandii]

Him as a professional athlete and then later a gambling addict, there is a dire consequences of his action. So I do agree that it might have a impact on his career for now. Although I believed that if he will go to rehab about his gambling addiction and then maybe he can comeback and resuscitate his career later once he understand the negative things that gambling can bring into his life.

It would be a shame if he had to lose his career due to gambling addiction.
Maybe he can immediately realize and try to stop his gambling addiction.
The bad impact is not only on his career as a football athlete but also on his life and family.
We ourselves already know the impact that will have on gambling addiction so if he doesn't immediately try to get rid of gambling addiction from himself, maybe what he has will disappear in an instant.

[aioc]

You cannot be in a sports organization and a compulsive gambler there's always doubt about your action, people will think that you are going to rig a game or you are going to connive to mafias to fix the game because you have an addiction to sustain.

And there's a temptation if mafias know that you are into gambling they may bribe you to fix the game because they know compulsive gamblers do not have morals they will be tempted because they need money to sustain their addiction.

[ethereumhunter]

I would not know if my friend struggled with a gambling addiction. Even if they gambled, they wouldn't say much about it. They will keep their gambling secret meetings from other people. But we still try to care for each other and remind them not to play gambling too long and get too much money.

When someone is addicted to gambling and many people know it, it will affect their environment. Others will surely find out who their family members and friends are and warn them so they can take good care of their family members.

[Queentoshi]

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

A friend of mine has discussed his gambling addiction with me and how difficult it is for him to remain without placing a bet. He does not abuse alcohol, does not smoke, he is not someone too that talks to plenty women as well, but his major challenge in life is his gambling addiction. Attempts to stopping for him usually does not work out because just soon after, he will hear a news about someone somewhere who has won a big amount from gambling or something else that triggers him, and that gets to him so much that he usually starts gambling again. The advice I have given him is that he should try to cut off from some of his other friends that are chronic gamblers as well and avoid discussions about gambling. Trying to recover from gambling and then keeping friends that still gamble a lot, or reminiscing about gambling is a way not to get full recovery from the addiction.

[Solosanz]

Hell, this could ruin his reputation and career.

Ivan Toney has carried Brentford since 2020, he's become one of top 5 scorers in this season, if he don't have a gambling addiction, I think other big teams would want to sign him.

I think the reason why he want to gamble is he don't get a big salary in Brentford, he's desperate because he want to earn more money.

[len01]

As you are reading this, it's quite common for many of us to have a friend or family member similar to Ivan. How did you become aware that your friend is struggling with gambling addiction, and what actions have you taken to help them to over it?

I honestly have never had the experience of helping a friend or family member with a gambling addiction problem. if anything, I don't want to deal with the problem of gambling addiction because for someone who is already addicted to gambling does not yet have a strong will to stop gambling, of course he will ignore all forms of advice from other people to avoid gambling unless the gambling addict has a strong determination to ask for help to avoid addiction gambling and I will help by taking him to a psychology doctor and telling his family to support gambling addicts to stop gambling.
I don't want to get too complicated with gambling addicts because it's hard to help people escape their addiction.

[bitbollo]

Thanks for share, here in Italy I haven't see nothing related this case.

I think that you become aware of gambling problems by speaking transparently with your friend /relative.
a dear friend of mine often told me about his bets/frequency/type etc...  at a certain point he too realized that there was a problem and it was necessary to made some changes in some way ... and I think this is the only way to change habits, realize it autonomously