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May 30, 2023, 11:20:57 AM
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I think OP have decision about future trading by opening short selling position, actually future is not recommended trading exactly for beginner what ever kinds of position do you open between short or long. Can't have accurate predicting about some coins price suddenly up will drop drastically and moment for short opening position, many time when coins raising up suddenly they have made another new all time high price and make us with short position opening will get loss.

I don't sure with how expert some one with future trading can't guarantee making x10 until x100 profitable every time, its not easy when trading in future and many moment make us got liquid when whales come and make good or bad news suddenly have impact for bitcoin up and down drastically.

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May 30, 2023, 11:35:38 AM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.

But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?

How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?

It is easier to make 10x than to make 100x? On that you are right, but making 10x is not really easy, there is no amount of tips and tricks which can allows you to earn that amount easily, besides 10x is still a massive amount, as if you are trying to earn that with every single trade then you will only need two trades to get 100x, which shows how ridiculously high those expectations really are, then I suggest you lower your expectations dramatically if you want to have any chance of actually making them true.
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May 30, 2023, 12:53:46 PM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.

But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?

How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?

Everything will depend on the market situation because if the market moves well, you can profit not only x10 but also x100 more. But if market conditions are like this, it seems that it is not easy to get x10; besides, you have to get the correct coins to make a profit.

And that's why you have to be able to analyze to get the coins so you can have a chance. But if you don't have skills in analysis, you don't need to try to trade the future because it is more risky.

And don't expect to get big profits daily because market movements are always changing and not always moving well. You may find it difficult to analyze market conditions, so be careful.

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May 30, 2023, 01:49:01 PM
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short selling with up to 100x leverage is stupid in my opinion, because you can easily lose your capital in futures trading,
if you feel frustrated with the portfolio because it is bearish then you should learn it, don't even play futures with 100x leverage haha you are really crazy .
I prefer not to play in futures trading and it is better to invest in the spot if things are still bearish.

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May 31, 2023, 11:59:31 PM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.

But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?

How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?


If you want to make that kindof money then you must be ready to take the risk that is necessary to make such profits. Leveraging is a way we can even earn like 100× to 1000× as a trader but it could be very risky if we don't know what we are doing. Taking risk can make us earn more from the market and at the same time we can lose even more if the market fall against us.

There are traders that are good at leveraging and they could make a lot of money in a single trade because of how confident they are when they want to leverage on a particular pair of coins. I would not advise anyone to leverage too much when they are trading I'm the market.









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How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?
There are a lot of coins out there that you can predict that they can dump in a few months but some of these coins are not available on some exchanges centralized/decentralized to short trade it.
So for sure, it's still difficult. Short selling is just same with long (or where you predict it will pump) because most of coins are just correlate with Bitcoin, so for me, you can't say short selling is easy money.

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Remember that short selling has considerable risks, since prices might abruptly jump, potentially leading in losses. While discovering individual coins that would have generated an x10 return through short selling in recent months necessitates historical research, analyzing price charts and recognizing assets that saw big price losses might provide insights. Using technical analysis tools and placing unambiguous stop-loss orders can assist in risk management and identifying entry and exit locations.

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June 01, 2023, 04:47:07 PM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.

But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?

How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?


I know you might be thinking that earning profits through short selling is way faster than with buy low sell high strategy.
I feel the same but then it's hard to find opportunities to short sell. It's a little easier in a volatile market but realtively tough in a sideways market.
You should mostly choose coins which are going up quickly and then wait for a reversal.
This when you can spot an opportunity to short sell and get a quick profit. Do not forget to use a stop loss.

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June 01, 2023, 04:53:48 PM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.

But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?


If finding a x10 to x100 profit coin is that easy then I guess everyone will be rich by now but since this kind of profit is very rare on coins with high volume then most likely you are looking for a coins with liquidity or trading volume in able for you to reach that profit.

How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?

Use an ATR(Average True Range) indicator to find what’s coin that has a price change that will give you that profit range. This is very hard to spot an so risky because you are looking for a volatile assets or using a high leverage just hit that target.

A piece of advice, Don’t do this kind of risky trade. Not worth it.

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If I could do it consistently then of course I wouldn't have to work part time every 5 days a week. Futures trading and returns are not as easy as you think, of course other people will also say that because the facts are like that.

I can imagine you might can do it for your self, but understand that futures trading risks and costs may not be worth the effort. I tend to recommend you for spot trading or long-term investing, but this may not be the best financial advice for you if you are basically an expert at futures trading.

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June 01, 2023, 06:29:15 PM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.
But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?
How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?
Newbies who come to the market think of earning in such a high risk way. Many have seen in the past how quickly they burn out. Futures trading is not a gold mine that you can only make profit from here, if you are not experienced in crypto market then this market will burn you out.

In futures trading, you can take not only short position, but also long position, which means that you will be able to profit in any direction, but it will be possible only if you have experience in trading. My advice would be for you, avoid such high risk trading until you get clear experience about futures trading.

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5% every day is a very good achievement, within a month you have earned 150%, and if that is fulfilled then it becomes a very good business to live in. however, in mathematical calculations it may not be as good as in reality, sometimes we also have unlucky days, where what we do is always wrong, therefore it would be good for everyone to assess themselves, with their abilities, what percentage targets are logical for run as our portfolio
Rather 5% isn't possible to achieve either on everyday, I just used it as contrary value which is 1000% in OP's proposal. Well the actual realistic value we can Target is 10 or 20% a month I mean increasing the crypto portfolio figures not just the value so over the time along with the trend of bull the profits will also be quite heavy.
Yes, that's because there is a volatility but other than it, there are some things as well which can impact the price of the coins and there is no way to detect them if they are coming. The only good thing about cryptocurrency is that we might earn more than our expected income, so I guess that was still better? That should cover up the times when our earning is less or we simply lose. If we want more, adding more volume does help.

It also means that we need more money first. The bull run is only just an addition for the traders to amplify their income but bull run is the main attraction for the investors because they can't sell from time to time just like the traders.

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Can't believe that people are still going for it, we all know that's not how it should be and we all know that's going to end up hurting you on the long run and people are still doing it for some reason, I have no idea why and I have no understanding why but that's just the sad truth. Just realize that it is not going to be a good period and it will not benefit you to short without understanding the market and definitely not making that much money because you will fail instead of making it.

People who aim making 100x or even 10x are people who do not understand the market, is it possible? Maybe to a few, but normally this is as improbable for you as it gets if you have to ask about it here. It is going to be something that hurts if we keep this up, we need to make people realize otherwise.

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June 02, 2023, 08:08:43 PM
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Hi there is a lot of talk about finding opportunities to make a x10 or a x100.

But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?

How can I know which coins would have earned me x10 if I had sold short in the last few months?

How do you intend to make a 10× or 100× within a short selling? This could be ridiculous and there is not posible way to do that unless you are whale or had the information that the market would be selling at a particular time. You can't exaggerating when the price of a particular coin is going to fall or rise giving you a 10× or 100× in a short selling unless you are part of the team of that project.

 This information about coin falling or rising is not always disclose to people because of the potential risk it could enhance. Those who are make good profits from the market are the whales who understand the market very well and know how to go about there decisions.









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Can't believe that people are still going for it, we all know that's not how it should be and we all know that's going to end up hurting you on the long run and people are still doing it for some reason, I have no idea why and I have no understanding why but that's just the sad truth. Just realize that it is not going to be a good period and it will not benefit you to short without understanding the market and definitely not making that much money because you will fail instead of making it.

People who aim making 100x or even 10x are people who do not understand the market, is it possible? Maybe to a few, but normally this is as improbable for you as it gets if you have to ask about it here. It is going to be something that hurts if we keep this up, we need to make people realize otherwise.
On my experience people have a great difficulty distinguishing between something that is possible and something that is likely, achieving 100x in profits is possible if every single event and circumstance goes your way, but is it likely this will be the case? Of course not, the market moves in ways that are completely unpredictable and in that case thinking that everything will go exactly the way you need it is simply wishful thinking.
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Can't believe that people are still going for it, we all know that's not how it should be and we all know that's going to end up hurting you on the long run and people are still doing it for some reason, I have no idea why and I have no understanding why but that's just the sad truth. Just realize that it is not going to be a good period and it will not benefit you to short without understanding the market and definitely not making that much money because you will fail instead of making it.

People who aim making 100x or even 10x are people who do not understand the market, is it possible? Maybe to a few, but normally this is as improbable for you as it gets if you have to ask about it here. It is going to be something that hurts if we keep this up, we need to make people realize otherwise.
On my experience people have a great difficulty distinguishing between something that is possible and something that is likely, achieving 100x in profits is possible if every single event and circumstance goes your way, but is it likely this will be the case? Of course not, the market moves in ways that are completely unpredictable and in that case thinking that everything will go exactly the way you need it is simply wishful thinking.
short x100 in the bearish season is clearly an opportunity, but remember whales have a way for you not to achieve maximum profit,
because what you want will be the opposite of whales, and it has been proven that many traders are exposed to liquidation when doing short sell or long buy,
but if you do invest in altcoins in the spot market, then your chances are greater than when you short sell in futures trading.
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But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?
According to my observations in the market, sell short when the market is bearish and buy long when the market is bullish. In recent months, some traders have wondered why the majority of their trades with sell short setups have a greater win rate than buy long setups. The likely problem is that he/she is just looking at the lower time frame and concludes that the market is bullish while, in fact, when we look at the higher time frame, it's merely a pullback or retracement before the price continues downwards and breaks the weak low. So, if you know the trend is bullish, longing is likely to produce a better ROI than shorting.
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Both selling and buying has good ROI, if I most say, we have different trading opportunities in the market. The question here is DO YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, THE PSYCHOLOGY to understand the market, don't let people earnings you see on social medias make you feel 10x to 100x is simple to make even 5x can't be that simple. Trading has a whole lot to learn and put to practice.

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But I think it is easier to make a x10 by selling short...any tips to get the best ROI possible by selling short?
According to my observations in the market, sell short when the market is bearish and buy long when the market is bullish. In recent months, some traders have wondered why the majority of their trades with sell short setups have a greater win rate than buy long setups. The likely problem is that he/she is just looking at the lower time frame and concludes that the market is bullish while, in fact, when we look at the higher time frame, it's merely a pullback or retracement before the price continues downwards and breaks the weak low. So, if you know the trend is bullish, longing is likely to produce a better ROI than shorting.

yes, it does because it uses a shorter time frame. and applying sell short is the right choice. but it's not for profit. because we know that for shorter timeframes there is a risk of faster price movements. traders should capitalize on the momentum fairly quickly. Although finding 10x is very possible in futures trading, the difficulty is when to find and choose the right asset.


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Both selling and buying has good ROI, if I most say, we have different trading opportunities in the market. The question here is DO YOU HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, THE PSYCHOLOGY to understand the market, don't let people earnings you see on social medias make you feel 10x to 100x is simple to make even 5x can't be that simple. Trading has a whole lot to learn and put to practice.
That is basically what happens to a lot of people out there, they see some people posting their profits on social media platforms and they start thinking that it is very easy to earn that much profit in futures trading while it is totally not that simple and one without ample knowledge entering futures may lose everything they have if they can't manage their trades or understand how things actually work.

It is always better to just stick to spot trading if you are a newbie and don't have enough knowledge and experience about futures trading because, in spot trading, you don't get liquidated if you don't know when to close your trade or have a calculated stop-loss.

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