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June 08, 2023, 06:42:59 PM
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I see AI as a powerful tool to support and enhance knowledge. They can provide insights, suggestions, and guidance when faced with a challenge. However, people still need to develop critical thinking skills, problem-solving abilities, and a deep understanding of concepts. So while AI can provide quick solutions and answers, I still recommend encouraging a holistic approach to learning. Because the learning process involves more than just finding the right answer, So anyway, you can combine the benefits of AI with active participation, hands-on practice, and peer-to-peer discussion to create a well-rounded learning experience that fosters critical thinking, problem solving, and effective communication.

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June 08, 2023, 09:10:18 PM
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Banning something is hardly an effective strategy, maybe you can control the cotton and material making industry of a local economy but here we are talking about information handling.   To ban just means to ask 'please another country, other people take this business away as we prefer to work longer hours on repetitious tasks'.  They will block any import of that product at a lower cost then we can do; this is just the thinking of a dictator manipulating their country to their own advantage.

But what if allowing new technology backfires and we reach the point when human jobs are lost and no new ones are popping out in other sectors? Is there a plan for such scenario, or just a belief that, for some weird reason, this will never happen?

Society wont gain from banning the use of technology any more then it did in attempts to do so hundreds of years ago as in every advance forward people feared and attempted to obstruct it; perfectly natural reaction but an economy is indirect and macro picture view to gains a nation might realize in sum total.

What you're missing is that many of those people that opposed new technologies and automation actually had their lives ruined by the changes. Looking at the big picture all look nice, as, historically, technological progress actually created more jobs, but things weren't that rosy on an individual level. Especially when we're talking about times when people would only work one job their entire life. So don't be quick with the judgements. Fear is not automatically bad and it has a solid evolutionary purpose.

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June 08, 2023, 11:06:58 PM
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I think it's important people first understand that ChatGPT and other "AI bots" of it's ilk, aren't true "AI" yet, or "AGI", artificial general intelligence.  When AGI is discovered, that's the true game changer.  Then AI will be able to think, self reason, self educate etc, without barriers that programmers code in which keep them from being "human like". 

I think technology in general has hurt jobs over the years, but it also creates others, and forces man kind to re-establish how things are done.  I don't think this will be a huge worry inside the next decade or so, but there will come a time it gets worse, that's for sure.

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June 08, 2023, 11:27:37 PM
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To some extent it'll have the impact on the job market. The AI were developed to support the human beings, but the same beyond the human thinking will be dangerous as well as keeps the human beings under control. Recently came across an article in which beta version of the software is loaded with AI. The software is for video and image editing, which can done just by giving comments. These things will surely create job reduction with people who are committed in those industry/business.

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June 08, 2023, 11:35:58 PM
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Since ChatGPT was launched in November last year, this AI technology has created a huge response across the globe.  This technology has gained so much popularity that people are using this technology in almost every field. Any math can be easily solved through this technology, any unknown matter can be easily known through this technology, so there is a lot of doubt in everyone's mind about this technology that this technology will destroy the job market or not? 

When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.

Even before the commencement of ChatGPT, I think there are improved technologies now that replaced humans in various work fields.

Although it can really hurt the employment rate, there are still works to be done by human rather than relying on these technologies.

OpenAI tools are bound to handle those works that humans can't do. It means those current work fields will still be worked by real humans and AI tools will just provide some assistance to them, especially with the hard part. About employment rate, it depends on the field of the said industry. If these companies will get big advantages by using AI tools, then we can say that they don't need too many workforces.
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June 08, 2023, 11:47:40 PM
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I see AI as a powerful tool to support and enhance knowledge. They can provide insights, suggestions, and guidance when faced with a challenge. However, people still need to develop critical thinking skills, problem-solving abilities, and a deep understanding of concepts. So while AI can provide quick solutions and answers, I still recommend encouraging a holistic approach to learning. Because the learning process involves more than just finding the right answer, So anyway, you can combine the benefits of AI with active participation, hands-on practice, and peer-to-peer discussion to create a well-rounded learning experience that fosters critical thinking, problem solving, and effective communication.
Artificial intelligence can indeed be used to increase the insight of its users. or it can also be used in the world of work to simplify and increase the effectiveness of work. it's just that what many people worry about is that they are afraid that artificial intelligence will make the number of jobs narrower due to the potential for some professions to be replaced by artificial intelligence. Even some TV stations are already using AI to host or host their news shows. In Indonesia, the ONE TV station is also developing it and it is likely that in the near future there will be an AI presenter.

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June 09, 2023, 10:56:45 AM
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It is true that certain technologies are destroying thousands of jobs. These technologies, on the other hand, can be considered as the key to development. This means that it has benefits on one hand and benefits on the other. ChatGPT digital technology ChatGPT makes complex tasks as simple as possible. Again this has a huge impact on employment



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June 09, 2023, 01:28:23 PM
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I see AI as a powerful tool to support and enhance knowledge. They can provide insights, suggestions, and guidance when faced with a challenge. However, people still need to develop critical thinking skills, problem-solving abilities, and a deep understanding of concepts. So while AI can provide quick solutions and answers, I still recommend encouraging a holistic approach to learning. Because the learning process involves more than just finding the right answer, So anyway, you can combine the benefits of AI with active participation, hands-on practice, and peer-to-peer discussion to create a well-rounded learning experience that fosters critical thinking, problem solving, and effective communication.
Artificial intelligence can indeed be used to increase the insight of its users. or it can also be used in the world of work to simplify and increase the effectiveness of work. it's just that what many people worry about is that they are afraid that artificial intelligence will make the number of jobs narrower due to the potential for some professions to be replaced by artificial intelligence. Even some TV stations are already using AI to host or host their news shows. In Indonesia, the ONE TV station is also developing it and it is likely that in the near future there will be an AI presenter.

That is really the future that I am looking for or what we would see because of AI right now, and it is really keeping advancing, but I do hope that it will not be catastrophic in the job industry. I am sure, however, that it will create more jobs in the technology niche because businesses are adopting this and are trying to automate their tasks and easily and quickly feed information. I am also one of those people who is happy that AI exists, as it has helped me a lot in my work.
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June 09, 2023, 03:50:46 PM
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However, people still need to develop critical thinking skills, problem-solving abilities, and a deep understanding of concepts. So while AI can provide quick solutions and answers, I still recommend encouraging a holistic approach to learning. Because the learning process involves more than just finding the right answer, So anyway, you can combine the benefits of AI with active participation, hands-on practice, and peer-to-peer discussion to create a well-rounded learning experience that fosters critical thinking, problem solving, and effective communication.

As much as I agree with this, the fact is that a huge portion of current jobs require people to just follow a specific pattern, where little to no personal judgement is required. Whatsmore, the "human element" of engaging thoughts that are not needed for the specific task is often undesired (e.g. causes distraction, which leads to mistakes).
And even for the holistic way of looking at the world, this can still be dissected, analysed and replicated, it'll just take a little bit longer.

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June 11, 2023, 07:13:22 PM
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Since ChatGPT was launched in November last year, this AI technology has created a huge response across the globe.  This technology has gained so much popularity that people are using this technology in almost every field. Any math can be easily solved through this technology, any unknown matter can be easily known through this technology, so there is a lot of doubt in everyone's mind about this technology that this technology will destroy the job market or not? 

When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.

I have not read the entire thread and I look forward to doing so.

Yes it will.

I am a researcher and I focus on workplace culture among other things. My current estimation is the current wave of Ai will have radical impacts on the workforce. It will and has eliminated repetitive jobs. As some have mentioned, that is good because it also create certain jobs.

The problem is the workforce is not flexible enough to bend to the changes and the damage will be big. Time will tell how big.

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June 11, 2023, 08:21:16 PM
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Since ChatGPT was launched in November last year, this AI technology has created a huge response across the globe.  This technology has gained so much popularity that people are using this technology in almost every field. Any math can be easily solved through this technology, any unknown matter can be easily known through this technology, so there is a lot of doubt in everyone's mind about this technology that this technology will destroy the job market or not?  

The ways I am seeing people making use of chatGPT nowadays, I am also thinking this can really destroy job opportunities because, what a human being will do something and take some time, the Al chatbot will easily do it in a short time. But this is an early stage of AI technology, and some people have started talking negatively about it because it is not perfect and doesn't reason like human beings.
 
When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields.  
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.

Yes, a lot of people will lose their jobs because if Al chatbot is already doing what a human being can do and take time and Al chatbot will do it perfectly easily with less time than human beings, what will be the reason why many companies will have many human beings workers again? I believe it will surely affect job opportunities.

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June 11, 2023, 08:27:55 PM
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 Maybe for jobs like being support staff who based on these online platforms can feel that their jobs are threatened ,  but still if these bots will be giving generic answers and customers learn of this, it could turn against a company using these AI's as their customers wouldn't feel well cared for and will take their business  where they will be treasured !

But still, we have jobs that require human presence and AI alone can not exist and it will always be like that, though certain jobs that don't require some expertise will certainly  go redundant for sure.

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June 12, 2023, 10:47:25 AM
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If anyone would open some kind of job market webpage, they would find out that there are still a huge variety of positions to be taken. People rarely work on one position for entire life. If due to ChatGPT a person looses a job, I am 100% sure there will be an open position for him. Maybe not in same field, but with minimum learning he could retrain to someone else. If a person is a professional or narrow profile specialist, he will always find and have a job. Even if person isnt lazy and complaining on ChatGPT is not all what he can do, he will find a job.

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June 12, 2023, 12:44:41 PM
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Maybe for jobs like being support staff who based on these online platforms can feel that their jobs are threatened ,  but still if these bots will be giving generic answers and customers learn of this, it could turn against a company using these AI's as their customers wouldn't feel well cared for and will take their business  where they will be treasured !

But still, we have jobs that require human presence and AI alone can not exist and it will always be like that, though certain jobs that don't require some expertise will certainly  go redundant for sure.
Support is an important element of the service, and I think many will agree with me when I say that it's annoying when a bot answers your questions with formulaic phrases. Of course, someone will decide that this will be enough to support, but even now bots are used, in quite a few resources.

ChatGPT at this stage of development is not yet sufficiently developed to be a real competitor for humans, but if we try to think about the future, it is quite possible that this will ever happen and AI will reach the level where it can massively replace humans in many jobs. So far, this is not something to be afraid of, but it is worth thinking about.
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June 12, 2023, 10:33:53 PM
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Since ChatGPT was launched in November last year, this AI technology has created a huge response across the globe.  This technology has gained so much popularity that people are using this technology in almost every field. Any math can be easily solved through this technology, any unknown matter can be easily known through this technology, so there is a lot of doubt in everyone's mind about this technology that this technology will destroy the job market or not? 

When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.
Everything in life has it's purpose and uniqueness, the AI is a very good Innovation and yes, it will lead to the decrease in the demand of work force but truth be told, it can never replace the human power/place.

Humans are unique too and their role in any firm or business entity can never be over emphasized, besides, the AI would need a human to help in it's operation wouldn't it??

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June 13, 2023, 12:57:22 AM
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It is true that the increasing of chat bots and other AI technologies may lead to changes in the job market. Chat bots can automate certain tasks and processes, which can lead to increased efficiency and cost savings for businesses. This may result in some job losses in certain industries, particularly those that rely heavily on repetitive or routine tasks that can be automated. Chat bots and other AI technologies can also create new job opportunities like development and maintenance of chat bots requires specialized skills such as programming and natural language processing. The increasing use of chat bots may create new roles in customer service and support, where human agents work alongside chat bots to provide a more personalized and efficient customer service experience. It is difficult to predict the exact impact of chat bots on the job market. It is important for individuals to remain adaptable and continously develop new skills to remain competitive in a rapidly changing job market.

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June 13, 2023, 08:51:04 AM
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Everything in life has it's purpose and uniqueness, the AI is a very good Innovation and yes, it will lead to the decrease in the demand of work force but truth be told, it can never replace the human power/place.

Humans are unique too and their role in any firm or business entity can never be over emphasized, besides, the AI would need a human to help in it's operation wouldn't it??

It sounds like you're contradicting yourself here a little bit here. You admit that AI will replace people in many jobs while claiming that humans are irreplaceable.
Even if we still need people to supervise AI operations, that does not mean the problem doesn't exist. It's not much of a consolation if you have 10 people operating certain AI tool if that tool replaced tens of thousands of people in their jobs.

Besides, can you name a single type of job that cannot be replaced by AI/automation and explain why?

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June 13, 2023, 10:54:44 AM
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AI is still a long way from being approved to be used in physical form. Automated and programmable machinery is good enough in factories, there is no need to add AI. Using AI to enhance programming and functions on the other hand, yes, a use-case.

Retail and dominating manual labor sectors will not be entrusted to AI, until physical form AI is approved. Again, a long way away. However the operations in retail and planning in labor/infrastructure sectors will be improved by AI.

I think you can see where I am coming. AI is the precursor to improvement in physical markets. Not replacement. Not yet anyway.

Online on the other hand is quite a different story. Programming will become the art of describing an application to AI. Those with the best linguistic skills will become as good as a coder who has been in the business for 20+ years. This goes for a lot of business and innovation that goes on online.

When taking the potential effect of online work (which will be effected first), it won't be surprising if this drives a lot of people who are making a living out of online work, like coding, have to re-enter the physical job force.
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June 14, 2023, 04:48:52 AM
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ChatGPT is the beginning of AI technology which will certainly change a lot of work systems, now many countries are starting to regulate to limit the use of AI, even many European countries report Banned ChatGPT for fear of being the beginning of a disaster when they are not ready to find new jobs for workers.
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June 14, 2023, 06:00:13 PM
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AI is still a long way from being approved to be used in physical form. Automated and programmable machinery is good enough in factories, there is no need to add AI. Using AI to enhance programming and functions on the other hand, yes, a use-case.

Retail and dominating manual labor sectors will not be entrusted to AI, until physical form AI is approved. Again, a long way away. However the operations in retail and planning in labor/infrastructure sectors will be improved by AI.

I think you can see where I am coming. AI is the precursor to improvement in physical markets. Not replacement. Not yet anyway.

Online on the other hand is quite a different story. Programming will become the art of describing an application to AI. Those with the best linguistic skills will become as good as a coder who has been in the business for 20+ years. This goes for a lot of business and innovation that goes on online.

When taking the potential effect of online work (which will be effected first), it won't be surprising if this drives a lot of people who are making a living out of online work, like coding, have to re-enter the physical job force.
I appreciate your view, yet I feel there's a misinterpretation. AI isn't merely a program anymore. Even if not running our homes or workplaces, it's significantly impacting our daily routine. Ever encountered a Roomba? That's tangible AI!

In factories, automation works wonders. However, with AI's rise, we can reach novel levels of efficiency and accuracy. Worth pondering over, right?

AI, in retail and labor sectors, enhances optimization instead of replacing humans. This trend is poised to endure until we develop trust in AI's autonomy.

Digitally, AI is transforming industries. Does it mean coders have to switch to physical jobs? Not really! They might need to update their skills, part of the innovation process, isn't it?

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