After Chipmixer, Is Sinbad.io Next To Be Shutdown?

[OgNasty]

Its good to hear that you managed to withdraw your funds as I assumed that they blocked your account while waiting for an explanation. Out of curiosity and to clear that out, did you use Binance address for signature campaign payments, or you sent the sig campaign monmey from your own wallet to Binance?

Sinbad was my first campain ever (i am still kind of newbie) and i used Binance adress for payouts. Therefore my personal account is now directly linked to sinbad escrow adress. I got timeline of 7 days to explain transactions, otherwise account will be limited. At least within this timeline withdrawals work fine.

Keep us updated.  I'm very curious what will happen to all the folks who have been benefitting from advertising money laundering here, even as it became obvious that the government was arresting those involved in such operations.  When even a forum pretending to be all about free speech has to ban advertisements from an entire industry, you know it's absolutely the shadiest thing you could get involved with.  Good luck to you in getting your funds and again, please share your findings with others as I imagine many are finding themselves in your situation today.

[nutildah]

I'm very curious what will happen to all the folks who have been benefitting from advertising money laundering here, even as it became obvious that the government was arresting those involved in such operations.

Nothing will happen to them.

When even a forum pretending to be all about free speech has to ban advertisements from an entire industry, you know it's absolutely the shadiest thing you could get involved with.

You don't see how this statement is at odds with the first?

Regardless, I could name some far shadier things that have taken place on this forum.

I think the fact that both you and Vod are constantly shitting on theymos - yet you and Vod hate each other - means that theymos is doing as balanced a job as possible.

[JollyGood]

Looks like their signature campaign manager has locked their thread and is saying they aren’t going to release any funds from escrow… Bold strategy. Let’s see how it pays off for them.

I cannot speak for others but what sort of campaign manager does not release a full statement (detailing what their strategy is going forward) when one of clients has been seized for money laundering? Releasing a bit-part statement in the form of a less than two line post is completely unprofessional but what else can be expected from that campaign manager:

The case is serious and I am considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address right now unless I speak to a lawyer. This means no one is going to receive anymore payments unless I have a direction from the lawyer. It's for the safety of everyone.

Can you imagine Hhampuz or icopress doing the same thing? No

Well that's not exactly true. He said he's "considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address" until he receives direction from a lawyer. These are interesting times.

If the funds were from a money launderer, he will probably be advised to never touch them. At some stage maybe the law enforcement agencies will ask for them to be seized.

Having said that, these are interesting times indeed because the campaign manager was aware he was promoting a mixer that was a re-branding of a known money launderer. I wonder if he will mention that to his lawyer.




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This thread was created six months ago asking if Sinbad was next to be closed down by law enforcement agencies because it was created with $22 million of laundered money by the same person/team behind the Blender money laundering crime.

It took six months but it happened as inevitably it would. I will be locking this thread within a few hours therefore if members would like post something constructive, they can.

[Turbartuluk]

Keep us updated.  I'm very curious what will happen to all the folks who have been benefitting from advertising money laundering here, even as it became obvious that the government was arresting those involved in such operations. 

Where do you get that? Nobody (at least not me) has been advertising money laundering. I guess if that would be the accusation, binance would not have let me withdraw my funds so easily. Until now i was a Questionaire with ~10 questions, where i answered 1/2, nothing heard from binance again so far.

But i am curious if it might be a different story for the campaign manager, i guess he will be focussed a little more than the particiants.

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Looks like their signature campaign manager has locked their thread and is saying they aren’t going to release any funds from escrow… Bold strategy. Let’s see how it pays off for them.

I cannot speak for others but what sort of campaign manager does not release a full statement (detailing what their strategy is going forward) when one of clients has been seized for money laundering? Releasing a bit-part statement in the form of a less than two line post is completely unprofessional but what else can be expected from that campaign manager:

The case is serious and I am considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address right now unless I speak to a lawyer. This means no one is going to receive anymore payments unless I have a direction from the lawyer. It's for the safety of everyone. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419242.msg63245716#msg63245716)

I'm not sure what you find strange here, but it's a completely understandable reaction to stop the whole thing and think about it with a cool head. How did you understand this as "I will keep all the remaining money from escrow for myself"

Can you imagine Hhampuz or icopress doing the same thing? No

If it is to protect the campaign participants and the manager himself I can even imagine that LoyceV doing the same thing. Be rational, don't mix personal feelings towards someone with the real state of things

Until now i was a Questionaire with ~10 questions, where i answered 1/2, nothing heard from binance again so far.

But i am curious if it might be a different story for the campaign manager, i guess he will be focussed a little more than the particiants.

Can you give us some additional information about the whole case? Everything is a bit confusing to me, I apologize if you have already written somewhere.
First, when did the disputed transaction take place? Given that you haven't been in the Sinbad campaign for a while, I assume it was even earlier. Is this transaction before or after the sanctioning of Sinbad?
Did you receive the payment from the campaign directly to your Binance account?
As far as I understand, you got this via email, do you have any notifications on the Binance dashboard?

[Turbartuluk]

Can you give us some additional information about the whole case? Everything is a bit confusing to me, I apologize if you have already written somewhere.
First, when did the disputed transaction take place? Given that you haven't been in the Sinbad campaign for a while, I assume it was even earlier. Is this transaction before or after the sanctioning of Sinbad?
Did you receive the payment from the campaign directly to your Binance account?
As far as I understand, you got this via email, do you have any notifications on the Binance dashboard?

I was part of the Campaign as Full Member, payments must have been roughly June-August.
And yes, payments were directly transfered to Binance (now i know that it might be a good idea not to chose a CEX adress for campaign payments).
On 29th November i recognised Mail from Binance, which i first thought was spam. On 30th November i logged into Binance to check and realised that sinbad transactions were meant. I guess notifications were on both ways simultaneously.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Can you imagine Hhampuz or icopress doing the same thing? No

So you are suggesting Hhampuz and icopress to move the money and pay the members? Good luck.

I think it's a very good opportunity for Royce to teach you some lessons. He can send some coins to your wallet [if that is an exchange address and KYC verified then you will have more fun]. 😂

Six months ago you were obsessed with whirlewindmoney because luckily you found yourself a spot in a crazy amount of weekly paid signature campaign. You even did not see anything wrong with the 12% APR which was literally looked like a scam to take the investors money, typical scam but with a new form than those 'left and right hand MLM' scams. You never saw anything wrong in it. Ironic.

It seems you are eager to attack the reputation of someone you do not like personally and you don't leave a single chance whenever you find the opportunity but you are always good; even better, you are very protective with your Captain America Shield towards those who give you peanuts. You are as entertaining as the monkeys in the zoo. Joker never did his things for money.

I don't think Symmetrick Ratimov ever gave you a peanut. According to you, he was a member who contributed 1000 times better then me, wasn't he?

Throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick.

Be rational, don't mix personal feelings towards someone with the real state of things

He will not stop until someone will put all the puzzles together and expose him like Symmetrick Ratimov was exposed.

[JollyGood]

I cannot speak for others but what sort of campaign manager does not release a full statement (detailing what their strategy is going forward) when one of clients has been seized for money laundering? Releasing a bit-part statement in the form of a less than two line post is completely unprofessional but what else can be expected from that campaign manager:

The case is serious and I am considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address right now unless I speak to a lawyer. This means no one is going to receive anymore payments unless I have a direction from the lawyer. It's for the safety of everyone. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5419242.msg63245716#msg63245716)

I'm not sure what you find strange here, but it's a completely understandable reaction to stop the whole thing and think about it with a cool head. How did you understand this as "I will keep all the remaining money from escrow for myself"

You misconstrued my comment. Let me be clear, I did not allude this comment by Royse777 meaning he would keep the funds for himself: The case is serious and I am considering not to touch any funds that is in the escrow address right now unless I speak to a lawyer. This means no one is going to receive anymore payments unless I have a direction from the lawyer. It's for the safety of everyone.

Can you imagine Hhampuz or icopress doing the same thing? No
The fact he did not release

If it is to protect the campaign participants and the manager himself I can even imagine that LoyceV doing the same thing. Be rational, don't mix personal feelings towards someone with the real state of things

What I mean by this statement is that Hhampuz and icopress (because they are operate as campaign managers in a professional manner) would have made a statement by posting clearly and concisely with their opinions on the isue and also as confirming from their side what they believe actually happened. Apart from that comment above from Royse777, he has kept virtually silent with regards to the Sinbad money laundering operation.

Also, what I mean is that I am sure if campaign participants were going to be out of pocket, Hhampuz and icopress would make efforts to pay from their own pockets. Royse777 would not even entertain the idea.
 
I am completely rational. My personal feelings have played no part in my comments regarding Sinbad and Royse777.



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As per my previous post, the thread is now locked.