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May 30, 2023, 05:49:10 PM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I think the KYC data is safe on trusted gambling sites because they will use that data for knowing the customer rather than sharing it with other groups or other sites. The KYC is mostly needed for the safety purposes because the sites don't want to be flooded by the army of bots, and that's why they verify the customer originality. Unfortunately, these days people have been generating very original faces with the help of AI.

With the help of AI and some editing on photoshop people are creating fake documents to pass KYC tests and that's a really bad action by scammers because they are doing such acts to create multiple fake accounts. And, even the fake KYC data isn't shared by the trusted platforms because they don't want to misuse the data of their customers, and if they somehow find that someone is using fake KYC data they simply ban such users, and trusted sites remove the fake KYC from their data.

Some of the gambling sites require very simple KYC details like your name, email address, your home address, and your phone number, and of course your country. They need such data because of the security purpose only and they will never share with any third parties because they don't want to ruin their reputation.

The only time  KYC data can be compromised when the hackers get access to the database of the website, and they successfully dump that database into their own hard drive. That way the KYC details will be known by third parties because those hackers might sell the database for money. But, that doesn't mean that all sites can be compromised because most of the trusted sites have good security to stop such hackers from hacking their databases.

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May 30, 2023, 06:06:56 PM
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Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.
Usually, they will ask people for KYC if the withdrawals are quite high and that's not something new for most casinos. If you happen to disagree with such actions, you have to take a look at their TOS before doing any transaction or before playing.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
If it's a small amount, it's understandable that there's no need for such. And do gamble only on reputable casinos so if ever you comply to their KYC, you know where you've sent your ID for kyc.

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May 30, 2023, 06:12:43 PM
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I think the KYC data is safe on trusted gambling sites because they will use that data for knowing the customer rather than sharing it with other groups or other sites. The KYC is mostly needed for the safety purposes because the sites don't want to be flooded by the army of bots, and that's why they verify the customer originality. Unfortunately, these days people have been generating very original faces with the help of AI.

First of all, KYC is not safe both on trusted and non trusted gambling sites. Yes, we know that our data is more vulnerable on non -trusted new gambling sites but what is the grantee that the old trusted gambling site will secure our KYC data. Apart from the leakage of data, there can be situation where the casino or the employee of casino may misuse the data and we would never know about it.

Secondly with the help of AI, you may develop original faces but it will be hard to produce all the fake documents with AI. Secondly the casino needs to become smart these days. Instead of making gamblers to upload their pictures why not force them to take their online picture by taking real time picture from camera. This way, the use of AI will be almost impossible to produce a live fake picture or video.


The only time  KYC data can be compromised when the hackers get access to the database of the website, and they successfully dump that database into their own hard drive. That way the KYC details will be known by third parties because those hackers might sell the database for money. But, that doesn't mean that all sites can be compromised because most of the trusted sites have good security to stop such hackers from hacking their databases.

Hacking is another thing and if the database of KYC is hacked, there is nothing we may do but at least the gambling site will publish the news of this hack and we will be mentally aware that our data is hacked, and we should be cautions. However, in case casino keep selling our data to the third party without our knowledge there is nothing we can do about this.

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May 30, 2023, 06:20:48 PM
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

Gambling platforms are centralized so nothing in there is safe, when we want to make withdrawal we just have to fulfill all the rules since without competing it we can't withdraw our money but that doesn't mean we can  trust the platforms not to misused our information submitted.

The gambling platforms can't hurt you physical since they don't seel the KYC to criminals but they sell it the marketing agency and they use it for advertising business to us. They also make your identity not to be anonymous since the government can request for it.

Gambling platforms servers can be hacked and the KYC stolen and that might put your life at risk. The platforms mightn't be involved in the hacking of the KYC data but because they're using a centralized server that's why there shoudn't be trusted.

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May 30, 2023, 06:29:28 PM
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
I've filled kyc and passed kyc verification only on one gambling casino, and that is no other than Stake.com, this is probably because I am not a user of too many casinos at the time, I sure do have account on several other casinos where I sometimes play, but it's always with a very minimal amount of money.

I've never had any cause to raise any form of alarm based on my Kyc verification with stake , and several other crypto trading exchanges as well where I've passed kyc verification..

So yeah, kyc documents is probably safe, but only if you don't hand it to scammers who pretend to run a business and ask their users to submit their kyc document, pretty much the reason why I avoid depositing or playing too much on new casino, so they don't ask me to verify my account before I could withdraw my money.

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May 30, 2023, 06:31:17 PM
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I think the KYC data is safe on trusted gambling sites because they will use that data for knowing the customer rather than sharing it with other groups or other sites. The KYC is mostly needed for the safety purposes because the sites don't want to be flooded by the army of bots, and that's why they verify the customer originality. Unfortunately, these days people have been generating very original faces with the help of AI.

First of all, KYC is not safe both on trusted and non trusted gambling sites. Yes, we know that our data is more vulnerable on non -trusted new gambling sites but what is the grantee that the old trusted gambling site will secure our KYC data. Apart from the leakage of data, there can be situation where the casino or the employee of casino may misuse the data and we would never know about it.

Secondly with the help of AI, you may develop original faces but it will be hard to produce all the fake documents with AI. Secondly the casino needs to become smart these days. Instead of making gamblers to upload their pictures why not force them to take their online picture by taking real time picture from camera. This way, the use of AI will be almost impossible to produce a live fake picture or video.


The only time  KYC data can be compromised when the hackers get access to the database of the website, and they successfully dump that database into their own hard drive. That way the KYC details will be known by third parties because those hackers might sell the database for money. But, that doesn't mean that all sites can be compromised because most of the trusted sites have good security to stop such hackers from hacking their databases.

Hacking is another thing and if the database of KYC is hacked, there is nothing we may do but at least the gambling site will publish the news of this hack and we will be mentally aware that our data is hacked, and we should be cautions. However, in case casino keep selling our data to the third party without our knowledge there is nothing we can do about this.

The issue of kyc safety is what bothers alot. Many third parties do not really regard their clients they joke virtually with everything jeopardizing the identities of their clients. Some go as far as leaking details and when it comes to business they may likely not say no to protect their members but come up with plans to selling people's identities to third parties which is not welcoming.

I have no doubt many data and information of customers have been misused by their service providers without their consent and this has made me start believing that truly they do such as I have a particular email I registered with an exchange with. I have not used that email for anything before be it social media or whatsoever but I keep receiving unsolicited mails I never registered for so I asked myself how did all these come about?
These are the issues with third parties and kyc safety. One does not have any safety once you have undergone kyc process or procedures.

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This is the point and we all agree on that, but look at this example that he just posted, quote, can it be reliable?  Many only look at promotions.

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May 30, 2023, 08:37:31 PM
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KYC ranking for sportsbooks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

There is no definitive answer to this question unfortunately, you have to gauge each particular site on it's merits and essentially take a gamble on whether they are well setup to protect your data. There are many cowboys out there, but at least in the casino / sportbook sector they come under pressure from outsiders relatively early so need to be running a solid security system to stay up. You should always be considering who you hand over your highly sensitive personal documents to, as they can be used for all kinds of fraud against you. If you get the slightest idea that they might be amateurish in the way they defend your documents, then you should avoid them like the plague. It basically comes down to all the little hints that you'll only pick up through time and experience.

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May 30, 2023, 09:45:40 PM
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
Level 1 KYC yes and so far I have not experience any problem at all.
It also helps to use every security available in the site to prevent being compromised. I’m not sure if my data is safe with them though I think I’m already exposed to many ads because of this. Let’s just hope that these sites protect our data at all cost, choose the best site as well and have your peace of mind.

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Just wondering if your list includes the consideration of the KYC data storage as per the topic? Because I only see that list only ranks the casino KYC through their implementation. High ratings for those who didn't required it that much while low rating to those who strictly required it.

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This is the point and we all agree on that, but look at this example that he just posted, quote, can it be reliable?  Many only look at promotions.

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The casino that he use for example is not reputable and obviously a mediocre casino that offers too good to be true promotion just to attract players. @lionheart pertains to casino that already have a brand here in the forum.

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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
^ KYC requirements are a common practice in the gambling industry and are typically implemented to comply with legal and regulatory obligations. These procedures aim to verify the identity and age of players, prevent fraudulent activities, and promote responsible gambling.
I know all of us have these concerns about providing personal information during the KYC process, that is why we should choose reputable gambling sites and take privacy and security seriously. Because reputable casinos are bound by laws and regulations to protect the personal data of their customers, just choose licensed and regulated platforms to ensure a higher level of security for your personal information.
In the first place, we should also review the privacy policy and security measures implemented by the gambling site before providing any sensitive data.
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May 30, 2023, 10:05:10 PM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
There's no such thing about being safe once you do sent out your documents or whatever things that would really be pertaining about your personal informations on which you cant really be that so sure that

their database is something that couldnt really be hacked or they would be secretly be making use of those informations without our consent. This is why KYC is really that highly frowned upon on this market because this isnt something that will really give out that kind of confidence that our information would be keep at safe. This is why as much as possible on which people would really be preferring on any platforms
or service which doesnt really ask out some KYC. For most of the time where platforms are regulated then they do always have that kind of rule or terms that they do have the rights on asking
if its really that needed.

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May 30, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
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The casino company should have asked the customer the KYC at the point of registrating into the site and not when the customer has won and trying to withdraw the funds. That act from the casino also looks suspicious. Why at the end and not in the beginning? KYC is good but because of the way the casino company are using it to suffer the gamblers, people has come to see the thing as a bad thing. If really casinos are doing the right thing let them ask the client the KYC at the process of the registration so that if anyone likes to continue then let him do it and if anyone likes to discontinue let him stop simple. You don't force someone to do something.
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There's is no safe in the internet even you keep a safe security feature once there's an human error still could be prone to attacks. People don't want to have KYC because they want to keep their self as still an anonymous the essence of the bitcoin will be gone because of this KYC by the centralized platform. On the other hand in my opinion KYC is not mandatory but the player require to fulfil a requirements like email as one of the form for security for account recovery verification too the platform can't recover your account if you cant show any proof that particular account is yours.

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I'm okay with KYC. It is a bit of a hassle butthinking how it protects my fund such that it won't be easily withdrawn, is totally fine for me. But I do get other's idea of this. Those people who are against Kyc in gambling sites are more likely afraid to put their identity at risk which is definitely a normal thing. I'd say only engage to gambling sites which has a good reputation in this industry than to randomly engage with platforms. Atleast, it would lessen the risk of your identity to be used with bad activities.
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
^ KYC requirements are a common practice in the gambling industry and are typically implemented to comply with legal and regulatory obligations. These procedures aim to verify the identity and age of players, prevent fraudulent activities, and promote responsible gambling.
I know all of us have these concerns about providing personal information during the KYC process, that is why we should choose reputable gambling sites and take privacy and security seriously. Because reputable casinos are bound by laws and regulations to protect the personal data of their customers, just choose licensed and regulated platforms to ensure a higher level of security for your personal information.
In the first place, we should also review the privacy policy and security measures implemented by the gambling site before providing any sensitive data.
But for sure we gave our informations and IDs to other online platforms or applications right? Why is that? Probablybecause we are confident that those apps are recognized by governments but I'd say risks are the same. Employees of those apps could still use your infos, which is still a risk.

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May 30, 2023, 10:38:05 PM
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The safty of your datas depends on the reputations of the site you supply them to and if you feel unconfortable with any casino, then it better to not trust them. with tour documents and best to avoid them, but in st cases those data are safe but we can't guarantee their safety beyond just promises that the casino makes to protect those data.

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May 30, 2023, 10:48:39 PM
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But for sure we gave our informations and IDs to other online platforms or applications right? Why is that? Probablybecause we are confident that those apps are recognized by governments but I'd say risks are the same. Employees of those apps could still use your infos, which is still a risk.

Apps recognized by the government are even worst because they would be constantly be monitored by the government regularly and there is nothing anyone can do about it. The app developers can not deny the government what ever request they made so as to carry on with their likely investigations as the case maybe. There is no platform that would not be eager to release data when the government power comes to play so therefore, in other to be on the on the track one must play by the rules.

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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?
Some people are rich and are afraid of KYC anywhere they are online. But gambling should be done with low amount of money that should make KYC no bothering.


Rich or poor has nothing to do with it IMO. People can win big on some games no matter the stakes they are playing. For example, some slots have grand jackpots. Also, kyc is not necessarily reserved only for people who win big and are looking to wd a big amount. Sites can exercise Kyc anytime they feel they need to.

Personally, I will not submit KYC to any site. I'm not 100% for it and think most information they ask for is none of their business. If that means I cannot gamble online, then so be it.

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May 30, 2023, 11:08:07 PM
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Depends on which site you're submitting your KYC info to. Most of the time, casinos that are requesting these information are already registered and in contact with the government, so at least you know that you will have something to chase whenever something goes wrong. I wouldn't really trust these platforms 100% though, as there is always a risk of leaked information even though they themselves are not the ones leaking the information in the first place. Perhaps just pass the basic KYC and that's it.
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