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May 31, 2023, 08:57:19 AM
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Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.
Their are some gambling site that the amount if you are using it they won't request for kyc, even when you are withdrawing little amounts of money, but their is always limit, when you are planning to withdraw some certain amount they will request for kyc before you can withdraw it.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe?
Generally am not is support of submitting my identity anywhere, not even on gambling site alone, even other places like exchanges. I don't really like disclosing my identity because those gambling sites can be trusted, they might endup selling my identity to scammers, and the gambling site can be hacked and scammers will have access to my identity which can be used for illegal things.

I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
You might not have any problem now, but do you know what will happen in the future? Anything can happen in the future, and your personal informations are already at risk, so look for a way to always avoid sharing your identity on gambling sites or other site's or exchanges.

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May 31, 2023, 09:06:03 AM
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I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to provide real ID data to online services, heard very weird story of people who had their ID stolen by bad actors and they are facing never ending REAL problems in their REAL lives.

Someone in this thread here said they are ok to provide ID as long as they are dealing with reputable site : well I guess we can all agree the reputation of the ledger site is/was indisputable; unfortunately I was involved in ledger hack ( https://cointelegraph.com/news/ledger-data-leak-a-simple-mistake-exposed-270k-crypto-wallet-buyers ) as I bought a device on their site long ago and they where hacked.
Beside a whole wave of pishing email, I didn't fall for because luckily am an experienced user of the net, I also received SMS on my personal cell number where some impersonator was writing me with my personal name asking me do perform stuff. It wasn't nice at all and am still scared about who may be or get hold of mine.

So yes, I can agree it is always a good practice to conduct some research and choose a trustworthy gambling site. Look for platforms that have a valid gambling license, a transparent privacy policy, and a history of positive user experiences. Reading reviews and checking the site's reputation can also provide insights into how they handle customer data.
But all these precautions may not be enough.

So lately am reducing at the max level using the service requiring my ID details unless it is something I need badly.

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May 31, 2023, 09:06:16 AM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

If you're using a KYC casino and failed to fill the required documentation on KYC, you will still continue using their platform enjoying gambling but the aspect that will pain you is when you want to make withdrawals, they will now remind you of rhe tasks left undone and ot until you have it done you will not be allowed to perform some functions you will request them to enable for you.

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.

KYC prevented nothing in this aspect, the level of security measures each casinos or gambling platforms maintain is what gives them egde over the attackers from getting control of their system or network in gambling.

Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

It's not about big money being involved or not now, it's either a casino is a KYC casino or not
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May 31, 2023, 09:27:26 AM
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Technically if we see, then NO, the KYC datas are not safe. The gambling site might claim that they will only use the KYC data to verify you, but we all know that the servers of these types of gambling sites gets breached multiple times and the datas are hence leaked. There are also some gambling site present, who just sell the KYC datas to other 3rd party to make money. So yes we are completely helpless here. We have to find KYCless casinos or else we have to continue like this only.

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May 31, 2023, 09:36:01 AM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

If you're using a KYC casino and failed to fill the required documentation on KYC, you will still continue using their platform enjoying gambling but the aspect that will pain you is when you want to make withdrawals, they will now remind you of rhe tasks left undone and ot until you have it done you will not be allowed to perform some functions you will request them to enable for you.


You need to see first if the casino will ask KYC or not since if you don't like to submit it then stay away with it. Also almost all reputable casino ask this requirements so better do it since I think our identity is safe with them so try to see the feedback first before we go to this process to see if we can rely on them in terms of safekeeping our personal details.

Before many doesn't like to do this but time past as this one became normal many KYC doubtful learn to trust those casino where they trust and as of now we don't see any data leaking so for this we can say that we are still safe with the risk we think about.

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May 31, 2023, 09:49:08 AM
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You will easily find many crypto exchange services that don't require KYC verification from their users than crypto gambling platforms because online casinos are regulated and they are given the free pass to run their business by the government, KYC can't be avoided and if your favorite gambling platform is telling you that they don't need KYC verification then you should be smart enough to understand that the casino is not regulated, they can seize to exist some day when the government hunt them down.

If the KYC requirement is not something you like then do not gamble online at all, I will leaves non KYC verification gambling website for the one that requires for KYC verification, because no legal online casino will run without KYC requirement.

I wouldn't say that many cryptocurrency exchanges still don't require KYC. On the contrary, the trend is that there are fewer and fewer exchanges without KYC every year as regulators put constant pressure on them. As for gambling platforms, I agree with you that users should choose only legal casinos with appropriate licenses. However, the problem is that the crypto industry has had a lot of cases when users' personal data has been hacked and leaked, and this is probably one of the main reasons why many users are skeptical about KYC and try to avoid it.

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May 31, 2023, 09:55:02 AM
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There are pros and cons for players when choosing a gambling site, whether to choose a non-KYC site or a KYC site.  It's essential to carefully weigh your options and decide what you believe is the best choice.

When deciding to meet KYC requirements,  be cautious about sharing your personal information. Once you share your personal information, you cannot control how it will be used. There is no guarantee that your information will be kept safe and used properly. Unfortunately, in many cases, you may not even be aware if your information has been misused.Given these uncertainties, be careful and think twice before sharing your personal information with the platform.

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May 31, 2023, 10:02:23 AM
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Nothing is safe about your KYC information on a casino as long as the casino supports KYC, government regulates them and can walk up to them and demand for any information they needed without you knowing, also the gambling platforms can decided to take a research on it users privacy informations or an insider to leak your details or give others to be used against you, in short anything that has to do with central authorities is not safe to secure our information with, gambling or no gambling.
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May 31, 2023, 10:04:08 AM
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You will easily find many crypto exchange services that don't require KYC verification from their users than crypto gambling platforms because online casinos are regulated and they are given the free pass to run their business by the government, KYC can't be avoided and if your favorite gambling platform is telling you that they don't need KYC verification then you should be smart enough to understand that the casino is not regulated, they can seize to exist some day when the government hunt them down.

If the KYC requirement is not something you like then do not gamble online at all, I will leaves non KYC verification gambling website for the one that requires for KYC verification, because no legal online casino will run without KYC requirement.

I wouldn't say that many cryptocurrency exchanges still don't require KYC. On the contrary, the trend is that there are fewer and fewer exchanges without KYC every year as regulators put constant pressure on them. As for gambling platforms, I agree with you that users should choose only legal casinos with appropriate licenses. However, the problem is that the crypto industry has had a lot of cases when users' personal data has been hacked and leaked, and this is probably one of the main reasons why many users are skeptical about KYC and try to avoid it.
In addition to the constant leaks of personal data from those provided to the exchange or casino by KYC-verified players, which obviously violates your privacy, do not forget that in many cases the player simply cannot reveal his identity for many reasons.  
This may be gambling bans in the country where he lives, it may be his personal reasons, for example, he hides his hobby and passion for gambling from his boss or employer.  In general, there can be many such reasons.  
So casinos without KYC are quite in demand by players and it is obvious that they should be on the market and work.  Of course, there is a danger of disguising a fraudulent casino in this way.  
But on the other hand, leaving millions of players without the opportunity to gamble anonymously and without compulsion to KYC is also completely wrong.  
There should also be legal casinos providing services anonymously.  And how to deal with scammers, while I think law enforcement agencies are well versed in this.

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May 31, 2023, 10:51:49 AM
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KYC in any form of online platform is dangerous. It contains so much data that it could ruin your life. There's no such guarantee that your data is safe in their hands. And privacy should be the main concern in anyone's life. I don't want to compromise that while doing something like gambling. If it's possible to withdraw low amount without KYC then I will choose to do it again and again but not provide any KYC to them. One loophole I found while doing such thing is that if it's not in their T&C and if they accept any kind of documents, then try to provide incorrect info by making one by yourself. I have done this in the past and I am still using it to this date. So if you can make an identical copy of your identity documents, then use it. If the amount is large, I will not recommend such thing. But that's how I cheat the system.
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May 31, 2023, 11:30:27 AM
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KYC in any form of online platform is dangerous. It contains so much data that it could ruin your life. There's no such guarantee that your data is safe in their hands. And privacy should be the main concern in anyone's life. I don't want to compromise that while doing something like gambling.

Any form of KYC is dangerous since you will handle over your information on the company via online or offline submission. KYC is now online even with government, banks and other businesses so this is the common procedure nowadays on KYC because businesses wants to give convenience to their member.

The only problem on casino was we can only reach the company behind the casino virtually because they are located overseas. We don't have any idea how they keep our documents. We are only relying with their reputation and trust them to do their job properly.

One loophole I found while doing such thing is that if it's not in their T&C and if they accept any kind of documents, then try to provide incorrect info by making one by yourself. I have done this in the past and I am still using it to this date. So if you can make an identical copy of your identity documents, then use it. If the amount is large, I will not recommend such thing. But that's how I cheat the system.

Hmmmm, do you photoshop your documents? This is falsification of documents case and this is really serious. I won’t do this small or big amount just to avoid casino KYC.

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May 31, 2023, 12:54:54 PM
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You will easily find many crypto exchange services that don't require KYC verification from their users than crypto gambling platforms because online casinos are regulated and they are given the free pass to run their business by the government, KYC can't be avoided and if your favorite gambling platform is telling you that they don't need KYC verification then you should be smart enough to understand that the casino is not regulated, they can seize to exist some day when the government hunt them down.

If the KYC requirement is not something you like then do not gamble online at all, I will leaves non KYC verification gambling website for the one that requires for KYC verification, because no legal online casino will run without KYC requirement.

I wouldn't say that many cryptocurrency exchanges still don't require KYC. On the contrary, the trend is that there are fewer and fewer exchanges without KYC every year as regulators put constant pressure on them. As for gambling platforms, I agree with you that users should choose only legal casinos with appropriate licenses. However, the problem is that the crypto industry has had a lot of cases when users' personal data has been hacked and leaked, and this is probably one of the main reasons why many users are skeptical about KYC and try to avoid it.

I agree. However, the problem is that leaking and hacking of personal data is not limited to the online gambling industry, but extends to various sectors and industries as well. In today's digital age, where data is constantly being collected, stored, and shared, the risk of personal data breaches exists across the board.

While no solution can completely eliminate the risk of personal data leaks and hacking, we all should do our best to minimize the chances of it happening. I mean, let's face it, it's not just up to the companies, we have a role to play too. We need to be smart about what we share and where we share online. It's all about taking control of our own digital footprint.

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May 31, 2023, 01:10:45 PM
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KYC doesn't have any function to prevent your account from account breakers or anything else, and the money laundering thing is for the platforms and authorities and it isn't a benefit for you, it's just that they want to keep tracking your activities to know whether you are involved in money laundering or not and if they suspect anything like that, things can go wrong with you.

I personally don't mind doing KYC but only if the platform that I'm using is trusted and I know that they won't misuse my information for their own gains, if I can do KYC in a centralized exchange to access all the features, I can do it on a gambling platform as well so that I don't face any issues with my withdrawals and deposits.

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I'm fine with KYC, but I only do KYC on trusted sites and will check the site first before I send my documents. If I have any doubts about the site, I will ensure it is trustworthy, but if not, I will not do KYC. There are still many sites, especially trusted casino sites, that won't give us problems, so we don't need to worry. And for security issues, I think trusted casinos can provide security to protect their user data. But finding a casino that doesn't require KYC would be great because I don't have to upload or submit any documents to verify my gambling account.

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In general, that may be the case as most gambling sites are regulated and monitored by the government. These sites are mandated by the government to implement Know Your Customer (KYC) regulations for their clients. As a result, we can expect these sites to handle our information confidentially and refrain from misusing it for personal gain.

The first and foremost step is to select a trustworthy gambling site. Once you find one, complying with their requirements becomes easier, as you can have confidence that they adhere to the standards set by regulators.
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KYC is basically some personal information that a user provides to prove his/her identity at a casino or any other website. It is basically not safe for a user as all his personal documents are provided under another. However, if a trusted site provides information for KYC and promises to keep that information confidential under any circumstances, sharing personal information is definitely not considered unsafe.
But I don't think it is safe to provide information for KYC on my local gambling sites. All types of casino and gambling sites are officially banned in my country and sharing personal information there can certainly lead to legal trouble.

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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
Whether or not KYC is safe depends on the online casino and the recipient of user data, if you say it's safe it's definitely safe and if you say it's not safe it's definitely not safe, it all depends on the casino operator in storing the KYC of their users who bet on their gambling platform.

However, personally, I definitely don't believe in the KYC system/features, I really don't like sharing my personal identity, especially in online casinos, Bottom line: I am currently happy to bet and gamble on online casinos that don't require KYC, after all I'm not a billionaire bettor, I bet as much as I can, but the gambling sites that I have bet on so far have not had any problems with withdrawals.

My understanding KYC does not guarantee someone is 100% safe after they do kyc, there are many ways casinos reason, if they don't want to return the user's money that wins and bets.

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May 31, 2023, 02:20:55 PM
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If the quantity is not too big I try to not disclose my identity even to reputable services. For example, I recently lost over $100 from a bounty campaign which eventually asked KYC in order to send payments. I'm not doing anything wrong in my country and not being anonymous shouldn't be a problem for me, but as long as I don't need this money to eat, my privacy is worth more than that.

So, if the service is trustworthy and we talk about high sums, then I would go through a KYC process, but otherwise I prefer to refrain from doing it. I'm not Satoshi (well, we all are except Craig Wright), but: do you imagine Satoshi going through a process like this? I don't think so, and less for a few dollars. Prevention is better than cure.

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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
My attitude towards KYC is extremely negative and I think that if possible, it should be avoided at least in gambling websites, exchangers and elsewhere. My position here is simple: all these service providers don't share their personal information with me (maybe they should do this, which would reduce the number of scam projects - this is also a plausible excuse, like the fight against money laundering), which means why on earth should I do this. I don't trust them because there have been many data breaches. If they can't store customer information properly, then there's no reason for them to even undertake it, much less for me, as a customer, to provide it, just because they want to. There are alternatives. I'd rather use the services of that gambling site that doesn't f@ck my brains with KYC.

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May 31, 2023, 02:46:04 PM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
My attitude towards KYC is extremely negative and I think that if possible, it should be avoided at least in gambling websites, exchangers and elsewhere. My position here is simple: all these service providers don't share their personal information with me (maybe they should do this, which would reduce the number of scam projects - this is also a plausible excuse, like the fight against money laundering), which means why on earth should I do this. I don't trust them because there have been many data breaches. If they can't store customer information properly, then there's no reason for them to even undertake it, much less for me, as a customer, to provide it, just because they want to. There are alternatives. I'd rather use the services of that gambling site that doesn't f@ck my brains with KYC.
Well no one really wants to submit KYC at their own will but casino licenses makes force them to collect KYC and I think that it is also their way to safe guard their casino from abuses. The sad reality is majority of the  casino today even those who are reputable one are collecting KYC. This is why there are new casino that are offering NO KYC promise to attract some gamblers. It's hard to trust but yeah even high rollers can't be exempted in this KYC that is implemented by casinos. I hope someday that a trend of a no KYC casino will be born.

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