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May 31, 2023, 03:21:10 PM
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

When in doubt don't, if you cannot submit KYC when it's on their terms that KYC is needed for validation then don't sign up to casinos that asked for KYC you are better playing in WEB3-based casinos.
Casinos that ask for KYC are compliant with the money laundering board and their license issuer so they have a valid reason to ask their players to undergo KYC and since they are fully compliant, they can claim that they are safe, so it's your choice if you still want to proceed in my case, I'm ok with KYC on all the casinos I'm playing because I have trust on the platform.

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May 31, 2023, 04:21:08 PM
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even Facebook itself can experience data leaks.... no one can guarantee that your personal data will be safe when you do KYC, this does not only apply to gambling sites but to all platforms that require users to do KYC, such as centralized exchanges and others.  Therefore, so that your mind can be calmer, you should only fill out KYC on trusted gambling sites that have a good reputation.  

avoid filling out KYC on gambling sites that have just emerged or are less than one year old.

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May 31, 2023, 04:57:17 PM
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even Facebook itself can experience data leaks.... no one can guarantee that your personal data will be safe when you do KYC, this does not only apply to gambling sites but to all platforms that require users to do KYC, such as centralized exchanges and others.  Therefore, so that your mind can be calmer, you should only fill out KYC on trusted gambling sites that have a good reputation.  avoid filling out KYC on gambling sites that have just emerged or are less than one year old.
Actually Facebook has already experienced data leaks, intentionally or by mistake, we never know... The fact is that once you give your ID to a third party platform, it's on their hands to do whatever they want with this. All you have is their word they are going to keep it safe, but at same time, words mean nothing and the peopel behind the platform can leak or resell the data to someone else, as it's constantly happening along the years.

If you fear to have your ID leaked it's highly suggested you don't apply to KYC procedures, unless you heavily trust the platform or institution you are applying to. Personally, I think it's inevitable our data leaks at some point, so I'm not really concerned about it.

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May 31, 2023, 05:01:03 PM
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If you are about to give your personal information over the internet to any service, make sure they are credible enough. If they are, there is no problem in getting KYCed and that will make you able to get access to all their features without any restrictions. Most of the casinos ask for KYC in Withdrawal time. I want the rule to be changed, KYC at deposit too. Why withdrawals only? Smiley
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May 31, 2023, 05:37:12 PM
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If you are about to give your personal information over the internet to any service, make sure they are credible enough. If they are, there is no problem in getting KYCed and that will make you able to get access to all their features without any restrictions. Most of the casinos ask for KYC in Withdrawal time. I want the rule to be changed, KYC at deposit too. Why withdrawals only? Smiley

Lately I have seen many problems in the casinos because of the KYC, what strikes me is that the demands are always increasing more to be able to have a withdrawal in a normal way, thanks to the blessed kyc they manage to stop that process, which It causes annoyance and it's not pleasant at all, so I don't like those things, also the security of things are changing, now even the google authenticator is asking me to update to have backup in the cloud, I think this is good And bad, in a casino we should not have so many obstacles to withdraw the money we have won.
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May 31, 2023, 06:18:45 PM
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Mandatory KYC in any crypto casino is dumb as hell if you ask me since privacy and anonymity matter a lot to most gamblers including me. KYC should only be enforced when the site finds something suspicious or when processing large withdrawals.

Most crypto gambling sites usually enforce KYC only under specific conditions which I mentioned above and this is the optimal strategy in my opinion.

This is why I appreciate sites like Crypto.Games, Bitcasino, Sportsbet etc where KYC is enforced only under certain conditions.

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May 31, 2023, 07:35:27 PM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

No. Submitting KYC is never 100% safe. Even if the platform is extremely trustworthy.

All that data is stored, therefore it can be hacked and recovered by bad actors.

While I completely understand and sympathize with the regulatory and legal situation which is being forced upon centralized platforms like online gambling crypt casinos or crypto exchanges, I am absolutely against the very notion of KYC.

A few hackers is all it takes and that data goes into the dark web, where people will use your identity to cause you financial and social damage beyond repair. Identity thieves know how to use your data to make money and they do not care about anything.


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May 31, 2023, 07:37:18 PM
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
Sending personal documents is never going to be 100% safe.
If we are talking about smaller amount of money than yes I am refusing to fill out any kyc on gambling websites, but they usually have terms that allow them to ask you verification for any amount.
I had issue with one casino and I wont name them again, I refused to perform kyc for less than $200 and they seized my coins, after that I stopped using them.
In case larger amount of money is involved or some suspicious activity like cheating and abusing casinos than I agree for them to ask verification from their customers.
I think most people here would agree with me, we need some middle ground with crypto casinos and long time forum members should get some small benefits with this.

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May 31, 2023, 08:17:19 PM
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Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

You agreed to it when you sign up so there's no way you can complain when they asked you to sign up and when it comes to KYC it always depends on the amount of trust you have for the casino you're playing.
When you sign up you should be ready to do KYC anytime when they asked you to do, they are not going to ask you to do KYC if there is questionable action on your account, its part of their being compliant with the authorities, its attractive for casinos to not ask for KYC but they prefer to be compliant for long term operation.

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May 31, 2023, 08:43:22 PM
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It's safe if you're going to do it in a casino that is reputable and compliant with the authorities because KYC is not something you cannot avoid when you play in centralized casinos, they exist because the authorities granted them a license, and part of these licenses is compliant to authorities like Anti Money laundering board, so before you sign up be sure to check the reputation of the casino so you will have no issue in the future when they ask you to do KYC.
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May 31, 2023, 08:53:21 PM
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I haven't felt cheated in way while complying  with kyc and people have to understand  that most times, its not actually the fault of the casinos asking for KYC  but rather the regulatory bodies and if they must obtain a license  to operate  in a particular  place, then they must have to adhere strictly  to the rules give to them by the government  and one of them is a mandatory  KYC and I feel we gamblers are making things even more harder for these casinos and making them make promises that they might end up not fulfilling.

I have no issues with kyc and provided a casino is trusted, I will always submit might kyc when asked.
There are non registered  casinos  that don't ask for kyc but I'm  sure people who gamble on such platforms are doing so at their risk as there is absolutely nothing  guaranteed  there.
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May 31, 2023, 09:02:43 PM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

Any information you share with somebody online isn't safe. Exchanges, casinos, even banks can get hacked. It happened in the past and it will happen in the future. If you are afraid about your data's safety then do not share it. I only KYC'ed to binance for example and don't have my private information on any other exchange. Tbh I wasn't going to KYC on binance too but I had no choice because the money I had there was pretty big and they refused to let me withdraw my money till I do a KYC...

My advice is, unless you really have to, never ever do any KYC.

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May 31, 2023, 09:21:43 PM
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Zero KYC data is safe. None.

Even if you trust the institution you submit KYC info to not abuse it, they're still forced to follow the whims of law enforcement who can submit a subpoena and sweep all user data they want, including KYC info that's stored.

This doesn't just apply to casinos, it applies to any online entity that operates within jurisdiction of NA/EU. The power law enforcement has in these areas will present these companies with the options of complying with their demands or shutting down their servers.
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May 31, 2023, 09:22:48 PM
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The sad reality is majority of the  casino today even those who are reputable one are collecting KYC. This is why there are new casino that are offering NO KYC promise to attract some gamblers. It's hard to trust but yeah even high rollers can't be exempted in this KYC that is implemented by casinos. I hope someday that a trend of a no KYC casino will be born.
There is nothing sad about this, anyone that do not want to provide their personal documents can gamble on no KYC casinos. It is true that majority of the gambling sites today make their customers to provide KYC. But no KYC casinos even will require KYC if the customer win huge. There are many other reasons no KYC casinos can ask customer to provide KYC. With what I see as of today, if you want to withdraw huge amount of money, all casinos, including the no KYC casinos will request for KYC. But if you gamble and win little amount, you can still see a decent no KYC casinos for that.

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May 31, 2023, 10:22:02 PM
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The sad reality is majority of the  casino today even those who are reputable one are collecting KYC. This is why there are new casino that are offering NO KYC promise to attract some gamblers. It's hard to trust but yeah even high rollers can't be exempted in this KYC that is implemented by casinos. I hope someday that a trend of a no KYC casino will be born.
There is nothing sad about this, anyone that do not want to provide their personal documents can gamble on no KYC casinos. It is true that majority of the gambling sites today make their customers to provide KYC. But no KYC casinos even will require KYC if the customer win huge. There are many other reasons no KYC casinos can ask customer to provide KYC. With what I see as of today, if you want to withdraw huge amount of money, all casinos, including the no KYC casinos will request for KYC. But if you gamble and win little amount, you can still see a decent no KYC casinos for that.
We know that there's always a threshold when it comes to this manner, some are really that been stated or been said on TOS or even on FAQs on which you could really be able to read up.Although there are some who do might able to mention it but most of the time which these platforms wouldnt really be telling about on what threshold they would be asking out some KYC on the time that you do win big which it do really sucks
but as a gambler and having that kind of chance or luck on winning or hitting big then you should already anticipate that they would really be asking some verification.If not, then you are lucky on which you do
still able to hide your identity but if they would be asking out then you wouldnt really be having no choice but to deal up with it rather than on not to get those winnings at all.
This is why on the time that you would really be winning up something then anticipate on what would be the next thing to be asked about.  Grin

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May 31, 2023, 10:42:29 PM
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Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?
KYC is basically a special identification system to protect against fraud, i.e. identification of the original user with certain information. Some casino sites do not require KYC for withdrawing dollars but some websites require KYC for withdrawing large amounts of dollars. In this case, all the countries where crypto currency has been legalized and KYC should not be a problem in cases where gambling and casino sites are officially approved. In this case, of course, you will have to pay tax to the government, but it is better not to submit KYC information to those websites that are managed by government tax evasion. In this case the user may face difficult problem for KYC.

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May 31, 2023, 11:13:29 PM
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I haven't felt cheated in way while complying  with kyc and people have to understand  that most times, its not actually the fault of the casinos asking for KYC  but rather the regulatory bodies and if they must obtain a license  to operate  in a particular  place, then they must have to adhere strictly  to the rules give to them by the government  and one of them is a mandatory  KYC and I feel we gamblers are making things even more harder for these casinos and making them make promises that they might end up not fulfilling.

I have no issues with kyc and provided a casino is trusted, I will always submit might kyc when asked.
There are non registered  casinos  that don't ask for kyc but I'm  sure people who gamble on such platforms are doing so at their risk as there is absolutely nothing  guaranteed  there.

I agree with you. if people are so tired and annoyed by the severity of KYC and other similar policies which involve money management on the internet, then people needs to take their feelings to their general elections and opt for candidates or parties which could accept the idea of getting the people some sort of solution which would protect their personal data and at the same time stopping those with the intentions to use casinos to launder money or defraud the casino itself...

We do not achieve much by complaining about it on the internet, if we think about it.  Tongue
I wonder if the libertarian parties of the western world would agree with softer KYC policies or more protection for the identity of gamblers.

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May 31, 2023, 11:14:42 PM
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It’s relatively safe if it’s stored and collected by a trustworthy casino. Otherwise expect your data to be sold to ad agencies for research and targeted ads. And I know how important privacy is to most of us considering how aggressive these agencies are becoming by the day, and with news circulating that the government is spying on us. Anyhow, my point is that there’s really no use protecting our data if we have already sold it to somewhere else unknowingly. Facebook, Twitter, IG, and many other social media sites already did this in the past. So the least we could do for ourselves is just finish KYC so we can get on with our lives and be able to do tasks inside a reputable casino per usual.

Not saying we should just give up, but since this battle is already lost right from the get-go, efforts should be allocated over something else that people still could benefit from.

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It’s relatively safe if it’s stored and collected by a trustworthy casino. Otherwise expect your data to be sold to ad agencies for research and targeted ads. And I know how important privacy is to most of us considering how aggressive these agencies are becoming by the day, and with news circulating that the government is spying on us. Anyhow, my point is that there’s really no use protecting our data if we have already sold it to somewhere else unknowingly. Facebook, Twitter, IG, and many other social media sites already did this in the past. So the least we could do for ourselves is just finish KYC so we can get on with our lives and be able to do tasks inside a reputable casino per usual.

Not saying we should just give up, but since this battle is already lost right from the get-go, efforts should be allocated over something else that people still could benefit from.
We dont know on what happens internally on which even if a certain trustable and reliable site, it cant really be still 100% where you would really be confident with those informations been stored up wont be used on other means. Im not saying that they are really doing this but we dont really know because once we had submitted then expect or already anticipate on what are the things that they could possibly do with those informations that had been gathered or accumulated. Some people do say that if they have done nothing, then why they would really be that getting scared of something?
Usually they would really be asking for some personal information whether they had seen something that you had violated their terms or you had able to win up some jackpot or huge profits
on which these platforms do usually this kind of standard asking out for verification which isnt something new.

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May 31, 2023, 11:50:36 PM
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    -  If a gambling platform is under government regulation of a country, it is normal for them to provide kyc requirements to their players so that they also know if they are fake or fraudulent.

Because if they do not do this, they will have a violation of the regulation that the government has. Now, if a casino online is not regulated, its risk level is quite high and it depends on you whether you will continue to play or not, that's why most people here are always reminding you to play at your own risk.

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