is KYC data on Gambling sites safe?

[Slow death]

I agree that all casinos ask for kyc, but that they don't force people to kyc right away when creating an account or when they want to withdraw funds, they can put in the TOS that they only ask for kyc when they register some suspicious activity, which is something acceptable in my opinion. opinion, but what has happened is something regrettable and that new casinos and some that have been on the market for a little less than 2 years ask for kyc when they realize that the customer has won a lot of money while making a small deposit or losing little money in the casino, or either when the casino realizes that the customer is making a profit then the casino asks for kyc and is not asking for kyc with the intention of getting to know the customer so that they have good customer relations - casino, the intention is to use kyc to prevent the customer from withdrawing your money

this prevents the casino from losing money, when the customer who has already won a lot at the casino is no longer able to withdraw money from the casino, so the casino wins because the casino manages to prevent the withdrawal and is still not accused of being a casino scam because the casino uses the argument that the customer has broken the casino's rules, something absurd, which is even more regrettable in all of this and that casinos can put rules that all customers, when making a deposit at the casino, must play 100% of the deposited amount so that they are able to to make withdrawals, with that the casinos already prevent money laundering

so I don't see any reason for a casino that puts this rule in place asking for a lot of documents at the time of kyc and always when the customer wins just to prevent the customer from withdrawing the money, because when the customer lost everything in the casino then the casino didn't ask for kyc. this is very regrettable, i kyced at the casino where i play, i have no problem kyc, but i'm afraid of kycing in new casinos and that's why i don't do it

[Doan9269]

Of course, it is important to remain vigilant and informed about data privacy practices when engaging with online platforms, including gambling sites and particularly if you are using the ones that belong to less reputable jurisdictions. Use the forum, read and make sure you go for reputable sites with long standing presence in the forum and on-line. That is the best protection.

I think its more safer and even better to engage onnthebuse of gambling platforms that requires no KYC just incase of the gamblers that would like to maintain the thier privacy, because once you filled in their KYC procedures, there's no more privacy there and the kind of casino used also depends because some can go beyond expectations in tracking one through these informations and the funds we have on their wallet remains theirs because we are using a online wallet which is a custodial form of wallet with them.

Even if they could find a casino which doesn't require them to produce KYC still they are not sure about its reputation. And maybe in long run they would get more bigger trouble since possibly they might turn scam which is not new here. Before I don't like to submit this details but since reputable casino require this to their user then I go with them and follow what they require since for me they are more safer rather than those small casinos which is reputation still questionable.

The challenge here is if two categories just as we've been discussing already, if the gambler have the intention of not using a KYC casino, secondly, using a no KYC casino does not guarantee safety that he wouldn't experience any form of scam from the gambling casino he has decided to choose, that's another risk on itself that he has to take the challenge to serve for a reputable gambling platform because it is not all zero KYC casinos can be trusted or reliable, some had already failed in the past and have ceased from existing.

[Danydee]

As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I don't think KYC prevents anything to be honest, except money laundering and multi-accounting(especially ban evaders). But for the customer it doesn't give safety neither any benefit, because even in case of credentials loss, the customer could simply sign a message from an address used for a deposit or a withdrawal, in addition to his email address, in order to prove his identity. But if a dishonest casino want to lock your funds and not pay your winnings, he will just need to ask you endless additional documents on top of your initial KYC. So gamblers shouldn't feel safe because they've already pass one KYC.  

Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..

[Reatim]

Of course, it is important to remain vigilant and informed about data privacy practices when engaging with online platforms, including gambling sites and particularly if you are using the ones that belong to less reputable jurisdictions. Use the forum, read and make sure you go for reputable sites with long standing presence in the forum and on-line. That is the best protection.

I think its more safer and even better to engage onnthebuse of gambling platforms that requires no KYC just incase of the gamblers that would like to maintain the thier privacy, because once you filled in their KYC procedures, there's no more privacy there and the kind of casino used also depends because some can go beyond expectations in tracking one through these informations and the funds we have on their wallet remains theirs because we are using a online wallet which is a custodial form of wallet with them.

Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.

This has been tackled in so many threads and topics and yet here we are about KYC issue , but this has been pointed that there are still many casino that we encountered specially those we have here in forum in which very trustworthy and we have proven in so many occasions.
I need not to mention a single but yes we knew that we can still trust many casino from this section .

[Solosanz]

Hilarious. Why in the world would you compare an exchange with a gambling site? Both are completely different entities with similar payment methods.

Some people definitely lie for sure, but some don't like me. Think before declaring such bold statements. Also, for your information, Binance does allow investors to trade without KYC albeit with lower limits and some other restrictions.

It's fall to the same centralized site and you wouldn't know what will happen in the future, it's not about the service.

Binance does allow to trade without KYC, similar like licensed casino does allow to gamble without KYC. Until the time has come, those centralized sites will ask to submit KYC.

Well, if you do not sign up at binance, the most trusted exchange, then you won't be doing the trading. Same goes for the gambling sites. You want to play at good gambling sites and therefore you have to do the KYC. Even these reputed sites can misuse our KYC data but as i said, we don't have a choice, do we 

Centralized exchange isn't the only way to buy or sell crypto, check this https://kycnot.me/

There's a good gambling site without KYC until now e.g. Freebitco.in, it's a subjective matter to say a good gambling sites. We still have a choice to gamble without KYC, but people don't care about it.

[carlisle1]

Of course, it is important to remain vigilant and informed about data privacy practices when engaging with online platforms, including gambling sites and particularly if you are using the ones that belong to less reputable jurisdictions. Use the forum, read and make sure you go for reputable sites with long standing presence in the forum and on-line. That is the best protection.

I think its more safer and even better to engage onnthebuse of gambling platforms that requires no KYC just incase of the gamblers that would like to maintain the thier privacy, because once you filled in their KYC procedures, there's no more privacy there and the kind of casino used also depends because some can go beyond expectations in tracking one through these informations and the funds we have on their wallet remains theirs because we are using a online wallet which is a custodial form of wallet with them.

Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.

There's a reputable casino where you can entrust your KYC indeed, more on your own take and your own assessment if you can trust
the site to provide your personal information.

I see the point where KYC was being asked to provide, especially if you already using a huge amount of money, those big wins which are subjected to possible money laundering that's being required by laws.

Casino needs those details as part of the requirements that they need to submit to the government.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

-    If a casino is under regulation, I don't see anything wrong or issue if they require kyc from their future players on their gambling platform.
Because I often see and read that it becomes an issue here, when in terms of withdrawal they can't release the money immediately, that's where the kyc comes in.

And the problem is that after submitting the kyc, all of a sudden, the other casino suddenly freezes the requester's account, which in fact has no opposition, especially if a large amount is released. But in my experience, even though I rarely play gambling now, when I experienced winning a small amount, even though I gave kyc, I didn't see any problem in taking out my winnings.

[panjul07]

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

In the beginning of my journey in crypto gambling, I was one of those who against KYC hardly because it was one of the main advantage of crypto gambling in the past compared to fiat gambling.
Now I do not mind to complete KYC but I'll do it on casino that I trust only and for a valuable reason only.
Valuable reasons such as in the time of withdrawing big amount of money, then I'll do it but if I'm being asked for amount that I feel is not really worth then I'll not do it.
Anyway I'm not really sure what do you mean by cheated from KYC? Is it like once we submit KYC for withdrawal but the casinos deny our documents?

[Pandu Geddon]

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I understand that some people are sensitive to their personal data. and it makes them want to remain anonymous in the online world. but when they are about to be hit with casino or exchange regulations that tell them to do KYC to be able to expedite the mobility that is done, there is no other choice.
if you want to use the platform, we also have to follow the set regulations. Casinos run their business and we as gamblers also want to play there.
as long as we do not choose a casino that has a bad reputation. then submitting KYC will not be a problem. but all will return to the gambler himself. if you don't want to do KYC, then avoid the casino in question.

[ethereumhunter]

Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..

That's why we have to be careful when doing KYC and don't choose a casino carelessly because we need a casino that can keep our data safe from hacking. At least the casino has to think about where to store the data safely and it won't be hacked. Maybe offline storage will be better than online storage because they control all the data. Using third party special services is also possible and it is the casino's responsibility while we don't have to think about it. We have to think about where we can do KYC safely, that's all.

[abel1337]

As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

I don't think KYC prevents anything to be honest, except money laundering and multi-accounting(especially ban evaders). But for the customer it doesn't give safety neither any benefit, because even in case of credentials loss, the customer could simply sign a message from an address used for a deposit or a withdrawal, in addition to his email address, in order to prove his identity. But if a dishonest casino want to lock your funds and not pay your winnings, he will just need to ask you endless additional documents on top of your initial KYC. So gamblers shouldn't feel safe because they've already pass one KYC.  

Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..

With the third party services like that, your documents/information is being tossed around by the one who has access to it. Your documents are stored in multiple database and that is a hazard given that if only one of those database is hacked, Your information/documents are done. We may never know but our information might be on other hands that we didn't gave access to. The best thing you can do if you submit KYC is to pray that you will not be a casualty if there's a data breached happen on the casino or the third party services.

[Cantsay]

Thanks for all the discussions. I read a lot of comments. That many people disagree with kyc. But I haven't seen anyone commenting that there was fraud or KYC abuse from gambling sites. Hope I didn't miss that comment.

Same, I haven't seen anyone complain about their KYC being leaked or sold by a casino, but I have seen a thread in Bitcoin discussion about how the life of a driver was ruined because of KYC, for some unfortunate reason this man KYC was sold in the dark web and the buyer decided to use it for some dubious business which resulted in the man getting arrested but later they found out that the man was not directly involved in those activities instead the person who had obtained his details was the one involved.
So this could be said also for gambling site, and to be on the safer side it's best we just minimize the casino we reveal our details to and just as I said in my previous comment use a reputable casino and stick to it.

[SirLancelot]

Probably. The general opinion is that when you send KYC documents they are potentially compromised, but this happens even on large exchanges like Coinbase, where data can be hacked or even sold by them. In general, the more reputable the casino or the site in general, the less likely it is that there will be a problem with your data, but once you have submitted it, you can't be sure of anything.

The information on the databases is stolen and sold. No one from a casino is going to come out publicly and say that information has been compromised. In fact, the casino may not even know since most of the time it's an inside job and an employee just sells the information.

Well, it's not as easy as you say it is to steal the information and documents of users if you are working in a company and sell them out, it doesn't generally work that way since everyone in the company would know it's you who did it because you were the database manager who manages the databases for the company or a website or exchange. So you can't simply just get away after doing something like that.

If the information is compromised or sold, it will be done by the company itself and not by an individual employee without the company knowing about it. That is why it is better to just stick to the ones who are trusted when it comes to using services like casinos or exchanges, etc.

[Fredomago]

Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..

That's why we have to be careful when doing KYC and don't choose a casino carelessly because we need a casino that can keep our data safe from hacking. At least the casino has to think about where to store the data safely and it won't be hacked. Maybe offline storage will be better than online storage because they control all the data. Using third party special services is also possible and it is the casino's responsibility while we don't have to think about it. We have to think about where we can do KYC safely, that's all.

Casino that will not risk their business most with established casino as they will care more about security they will not take that big risk closing their business just because of mishandling those private information, it's hard to entrust your private data but if you really trust the site where you are playing or where you are gambling, it's something that will be depend from how you really see and project the business if they will take care of your data or you need to pause for a while and think more if you are willing to take that step and risk those information.

[klidex]

Also some casinos use third specialized services to process the KYC (so like the majority serious services right now).. but some still like to do it by themselves or transit the documents/informations by them.. So imagine in case of datas theft you could have an innumerable accounts on different services on name without you know! so..

That's why we have to be careful when doing KYC and don't choose a casino carelessly because we need a casino that can keep our data safe from hacking. At least the casino has to think about where to store the data safely and it won't be hacked. Maybe offline storage will be better than online storage because they control all the data. Using third party special services is also possible and it is the casino's responsibility while we don't have to think about it. We have to think about where we can do KYC safely, that's all.

What is certain is to avoid KYC on sites that are new or don't have a good reputation.
Even though there is no guarantee that doing KYC will be safe, if you do KYC on a reputable site, of course the casino will prioritize the security of customer data.[/left

[Stable090]

Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.

I don’t believe my personal data is safe with any third party, I know their are some reputable gambling site that are trusted, but I don’t still trust them with my personal data, things might be going fine now and you might think your data is safe on the gambling site, till anything happens in the future then your personal information’s will be exposed, then you will know your details is not safe no matter how reputable  the gambling site is. Any gambling sites can be compromised at any moments and scammers might have access to your information which they will end up using it for illegal things which will definitely implicate you, at the end you will be accused of the crime which you didn’t commit and you won’t be able to proof you are innocent, or your accounts might be compromised.

[coolcoinz]

IMO it's not safe which is why I avoid KYC at all cost. If the casino demands it for withdrawals over a certain limit, I don't withdraw over the limit. If it requires KYC for fiat withdrawals, I don't use fiat. If it does random KYC screening, I tend to avoid the casino completely.

Many years ago I've decided that it's important for me to stay anonymous in the Internet, which is why I never reveal any sensitive data and I never send scans of my documents. You will not find my face anywhere in the web. It allows me to feel somewhat safe.

[danadc]

Even at that they are still some reputable casino our there that even with KYC requirement, you can still trust them in assuring that your personal data are safe with them. Me personal don't have anything against provision of KYC so far as the casino is one that be can stand for their claims when it comes to securing of customer user details.

I don’t believe my personal data is safe with any third party, I know their are some reputable gambling site that are trusted, but I don’t still trust them with my personal data, things might be going fine now and you might think your data is safe on the gambling site, till anything happens in the future then your personal information’s will be exposed, then you will know your details is not safe no matter how reputable  the gambling site is. Any gambling sites can be compromised at any moments and scammers might have access to your information which they will end up using it for illegal things which will definitely implicate you, at the end you will be accused of the crime which you didn’t commit and you won’t be able to proof you are innocent, or your accounts might be compromised.

I also think the same as you, only that for these cases where the casinos are very demanding, and ask for the kyc to be able to Withdraw, it is very bad that if you do not give a KYC you cannot make a withdrawal, besides that it is something very annoying. what happens, I think that what they can do is have a not so radical kyc so that it can go quickly without so much problem, but our data is something very delicate and for that reason many are jealous with their data, because it is easy to be able to blackmail them and make them have a bad time, that is what you want to avoid.

[QueenVera]

Submitting your personal information on the internet is never a safe thing to do. It depends on needs. It depends on how much you care about being anonymous, or maybe you don't care about it too much. You don't know if some hackers stole the database or if casino staff was selling the data on the darknet. You are browsing the clear net, so you might not know what's happening on the dark net.

You can buy people's ID cards, Passports, utility bill documents, etc. Now the question is, do you believe anyone will sell their personal information online? Nope, Those are stolen data from KYC platforms. You never know if your data was stolen by someone and maybe your data was used by someone else.

Well I don't have issues with submitting  KYC  on the internet and since the question  was for casinos  then I also don't have any issues submitting  my credentials or kyc  to provided  that the platform  or casino  is a trusted one.
I agree with you mate on your perspective  but I was thinking  that most of these platforms has improved lately and are making it difficult  for people to steals the details of others as there  have the video capture policy been introduced  into most of the online casinos that ask for kyc.

Most times, I think most people don't really have any special reason to wanting to protect their identity  but simply just following threads.

[Fatunad]

Submitting your personal information on the internet is never a safe thing to do. It depends on needs. It depends on how much you care about being anonymous, or maybe you don't care about it too much. You don't know if some hackers stole the database or if casino staff was selling the data on the darknet. You are browsing the clear net, so you might not know what's happening on the dark net.

You can buy people's ID cards, Passports, utility bill documents, etc. Now the question is, do you believe anyone will sell their personal information online? Nope, Those are stolen data from KYC platforms. You never know if your data was stolen by someone and maybe your data was used by someone else.

Well I don't have issues with submitting  KYC  on the internet and since the question  was for casinos  then I also don't have any issues submitting  my credentials or kyc  to provided  that the platform  or casino  is a trusted one.
I agree with you mate on your perspective  but I was thinking  that most of these platforms has improved lately and are making it difficult  for people to steals the details of others as there  have the video capture policy been introduced  into most of the online casinos that ask for kyc.

Most times, I think most people don't really have any special reason to wanting to protect their identity  but simply just following threads.

Security is one of the primary concerns of any platform specially on a gambling site which does have tons of money involved and in overall.Once they do have that breach or exploit whether in related to money/funds or those informations of users then it would really completely lost up the trust of its users or into the community which is really that a very bad scenario or condition of a business.
It do becomes standard nowadays in speaking about KYC which every platform could potentially asked out for some KYc specially into those who are licensed or regulated which it would be no shocking thing.
Safety of information would really vary but most of platforms are really having that strong security in regarding both information and wallet specially on a gambling business. This is why it would really be building up such confidence into those people who are really that keen or really that paranoid when it comes to safety or security of certain things.