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June 04, 2023, 09:59:59 PM
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Dark web has been a host of all the world's dirtiest and deadliest deals, but also the user has to take the extra mile to such the information that is available for sale in the marketplace to see the level of linkage that data have gone through and nothing is stopping their buyers from using those data to commit more crime there exposing the real owner if those data to criminal charges unless their ability to prove that their identity has truly been stolen.
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Certainly this I would discover to be a worthless method. Because why I will leave my complete information especially my personal information under others. Can this method guarantee the protection of my personal data?

Moreover, I think it is completely unreasonable to give personal information to gambling sites because who will take my personal information security when a gambling site is confiscated by the government?
actually, there are many big gambling sites that don't want to require their users to do KYC, but the government's rules require it, so many gambling sites can't refuse when the government tightens the rules regarding KYC.  fortunately, nowadays there are many gambling sites that don't require KYC, users who don't want their personal data exposed can just play there.
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June 04, 2023, 10:05:45 PM
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Are you okay with an online casino asking you for a kyc here in the crypto space? That you will discover in the end that it is not under regulation. Would you also be willing to give your kyc? Because we all know that when you provide data information, it is obvious that they already have a data record about you.

But if a casino is regulated, that's fine with me because a gambling platform just follows the rules in that case. So as a gambler we should know our risk tolerance somehow, right?

Yeah, it's also a factor before submitting your private information, how secure you are with the casino and how would it be possible that they will take the responsibility, if that casino is complying with the regulation and would just like continue doing business the chance that they will secure your information is better compared to the site where they are not liable to any regulation.

I agree with what you are saying, it is a must understand the risk tolerance before taking any actions.
Just like I said earlier, most of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency users are privacy concus and at that we constantly avoid KYC platforms and even though we sometime didn't have choice but to get through with verification we only choose secured sites and we can trust them without data.

But also we sometime fall victims to identity theft without our knowledge but also for a crime committed with stolen documents there is a limit to what the scammer can do with those KYC documents as at some times the documents wouldn't meet the requirements for those verifications as there will be more demands
Well, you are righ though, many who decided to adopt bitcoin and cryptocurrencies today did so because of the privacy it promotes, and coming back to gambling and online casinos, I believe that reason why several gamblers ditched offline casino and focussed on playing only on online casinos is to stop getting public eyes on them when ever they step into an offline casino..

And If I must be sincere with my observations, I think the reason why online casinos started requiring kyc verification from its customers is completely due to regulatory requirements, aside authorities making its mandatory process for centralized casinos to request kyc verification from their users, I don't think any gambling casino care much about kyc verifying their customers.

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June 04, 2023, 10:55:13 PM
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fortunately, nowadays there are many gambling sites that don't require KYC, users who don't want their personal data exposed can just play there.
Can you, please, name some of those casinos which do no require kyc? Because as far as I can see, it's exactly the opposit: each day there are less and less of those casinos.
I've even seen some of them ask their customers to verify their identity for different reasons although they claim kyc is not mandatory.

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June 04, 2023, 11:31:27 PM
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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.

It might not be safe but when you are only gambling with small amount of money i dont think you will become a target of such fraud? High value target are all those users who gambles large money thus it will catch the attention of the casino and perform a trick to lose your money.
That is very unfortunate it happens to someone. KYC is already flawed right before it was imposed.
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June 04, 2023, 11:44:28 PM
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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.

It might not be safe but when you are only gambling with small amount of money i dont think you will become a target of such fraud? High value target are all those users who gambles large money thus it will catch the attention of the casino and perform a trick to lose your money.
That is very unfortunate it happens to someone. KYC is already flawed right before it was imposed.

The gambling sites do not distinguish between low wagering users or high wagering users when it comes to the KYC. Have you heard that a site ask for KYC if your deposits are high or do not ask for KYC with low deposits?

In fact, most gambling sites will ask for the KYC irrespective of your portfolio with the gambling site. Also if the gambling site decides to misuse your data or sell your data, they will not categorize low or high volume users.

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June 05, 2023, 12:10:36 AM
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And If I must be sincere with my observations, I think the reason why online casinos started requiring kyc verification from its customers is completely due to regulatory requirements, aside authorities making its mandatory process for centralized casinos to request kyc verification from their users, I don't think any gambling casino care much about kyc verifying their customers.
KYC in some accredited casinos should not be a problem but KYC in all casinos doesn't make sense to me. However, casino authorities may make KYC system mandatory in case of withdrawal of huge amount of funds. But one thing is that KYC system is very important to stop fraud in casinos and making it mandatory will reduce fraud to a great extent.

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June 05, 2023, 12:44:41 AM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?
 
These are the top 5 casinos that does not required KYC according to the link below .


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We can clearly choose when and where to play mate , but  indeed that all your points here are valid and yes  the KYC requirements are decided by many sites but at least there are still  choose to pay respect to players privacy .


But for me personally ? still best to play in casino that has KYC but surely trusted and safer to play and 2 of those are

Roobet.com and Duelbits.com https://roobet.com/ , https://duelbits.com/









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June 05, 2023, 02:55:34 AM
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But for me personally ? still best to play in casino that has KYC but surely trusted and safer to play and 2 of those are

Roobet.com and Duelbits.com https://roobet.com/ , https://duelbits.com/

If I may add? there is Rollbit and trustdice https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399855.0 that I believe two of the best casino sites ever created and advertised here in our forum.

Have played on those site and yes no doubt they are great in serving gamblers .

and also  your KYC is safe in those sites .

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June 05, 2023, 06:37:22 AM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
KYC has both positive and negative aspects. If gambler wants to do big transactions then KYC is definitely required otherwise it is not possible to control money laundering. Moreover, the government also has obligations. Again KYC can be used for account security. Sometimes if the account is frozen for any reason then the person can get back his account through KYC proof. I personally take KYC positively but a gambler should look at good sites and then decide to do KYC otherwise there is a chance of his KYC information being stolen.

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June 05, 2023, 10:22:19 AM
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I don`t have problem with KYC but i think that it would be fair to KYC when the gambler is registering in casino. In the situation when the KYC is asked when the gambler decides to withdraw money he lose time and don`t get the money he win. I feel myself disappointed in such situations.

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June 05, 2023, 10:34:15 AM
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If you're worried your KYC can be used for illegal thing, make sure you must not share your KYC in any online places!

Any site regardless it's small or big, trusted or not are promise they will protect your KYC and only share to trusted third party, but how to verify if they're legit? no way. When you submit your KYC on many sites, you don't have any idea which site is lying to you and use it for illegal activity.

It's why just gamble on no KYC casino.
That must be a rule of thumb when it comes to submitting a KYC. If in case we only submit our KYC to one legit website and later on we are now receiving a mail, text or call from someone else about doing an illegal act that we never do, we already know who to blame with but I think the occurrence of it might be rare because a legit company won't do anything that will destroy their reputation.

This is not only about the money. It's also possible that their website have been hacked and the KYC have been stolen. There are still crypto gambling sites left that are KYC free. We can always play on them if we are too sensitive when it comes to KYC.

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June 05, 2023, 02:49:49 PM
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Regulations from the government try to suppress crypto casinos so that crypto users who often play gambling at crypto casinos experience the impact of these government regulations.

I understand why government do that because many money launderers is now using online casino to mix their dirty money. Unlike crypto mixers, Casino needs to apply safety precautions like KYC to fight this criminal and to avoid being seize by the government by allowing launderers to freely use their service to wash their money.
And that's why casinos seem to be tightening their rules about doing KYC for almost all of their members, especially members who use big money to gamble. Those making large withdrawals must also perform KYC before the casino can process their withdrawal request. This is to avoid the possibility of money laundering occurring at their casino because the casino doesn't want to get into trouble later.

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.
Well, it can happen in a new casino, but crypto gamblers won't like it as they prefer casinos that are less strict when it comes to doing KYC. Perhaps only some gamblers will be willing to do KYC at a new casino, but others will still choose the usual casino to gamble. So a new casino is better off writing additional rules at the casino that says it will verify members who exceed the specified limits. But members who do not exceed the limit will not be asked to do KYC. That would be preferable for crypto gamblers as they will try not to exceed that limit lest they do KYC.

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June 05, 2023, 03:03:29 PM
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Regulations from the government try to suppress crypto casinos so that crypto users who often play gambling at crypto casinos experience the impact of these government regulations.

I understand why government do that because many money launderers is now using online casino to mix their dirty money. Unlike crypto mixers, Casino needs to apply safety precautions like KYC to fight this criminal and to avoid being seize by the government by allowing launderers to freely use their service to wash their money.
And that's why casinos seem to be tightening their rules about doing KYC for almost all of their members, especially members who use big money to gamble. Those making large withdrawals must also perform KYC before the casino can process their withdrawal request. This is to avoid the possibility of money laundering occurring at their casino because the casino doesn't want to get into trouble later.
Exactly mate, Money launderers is so smart nowadays and some of them are using casino rakeback and cashback to recover there losses to make their mixing looks like legit. It’s very hard for the casino to determine who’s laundering so they ask KYC to all players as self defense in case regulators hits their business.


I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.
Well, it can happen in a new casino, but crypto gamblers won't like it as they prefer casinos that are less strict when it comes to doing KYC. Perhaps only some gamblers will be willing to do KYC at a new casino, but others will still choose the usual casino to gamble. So a new casino is better off writing additional rules at the casino that says it will verify members who exceed the specified limits. But members who do not exceed the limit will not be asked to do KYC. That would be preferable for crypto gamblers as they will try not to exceed that limit lest they do KYC.

Most of the new gamblers don’t bother anymore on KYC since most of them came from fiat casino that requires KYC as mandatory requirements. Those players that still doesn’t accept KYC are those old players here in the forum that want to try new casino.

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June 05, 2023, 03:05:57 PM
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These are the top 5 casinos that does not required KYC according to the link below .

Top 5 Crypto Casinos with No KYC

Lucky Block– The Top Crypto Casino 2023 With No KYC Procedure.
BC.Game – A Fantastic & Trustworthy Alternative.
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9.1. To prevent fraud, money laundering and underage gambling, it is important that we verify Players’ identities.
BC.GAME reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. BC.GAME reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.
We may use a recognised third party provider to undertake these checks on our behalf or we may get in touch with you directly to provide us KYC documentation.
13.1. Wild.io reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Wild.io reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Wild io's sole discretion. Failure or denial to pass the identity check will result in confiscation of winnings and refund of the last deposit.
Verification criteria for the identity document must include: name, photograph, date of birth, citizenship.

This is why it's important to crosscheck what information you found in internet or someone article with the reality, the article is misleading for giving a list of no KYC casino, while the reality all of them are required to verify your account.

Make sure every gambler check the terms first by CTRL + F and type "verification", "verify", "identity", "personal" or "KYC". If you found the casino state they will ask KYC, then leave it.



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June 05, 2023, 03:36:50 PM
 #215

Actually, not all crypto gambling asks for kyc, that's why we should always know the risk involved in every game we enter. If there are casinos that ask for kyc online, it's for you and the person who manages the casino. platform too.

And usually, these who have kyc demands are regulated gambling that if they do not do this to their players on their platform, the government can close their online casino. If this casino is legitimate I think it is still safe in my opinion.



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June 05, 2023, 03:55:13 PM
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In 10 years of playing in the casino, I have not had any difficulties with KYC.
I think it's safe
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June 05, 2023, 09:15:39 PM
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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.
it is not good for us to give our information to gambling companies because they might decided to sell the information and even though they don't have that plan, what about if there casino get hacked and the hackers get hold of the data and sell it to their parties and that can use it against to he person.

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June 05, 2023, 09:37:41 PM
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Do you know that some people does not concentrate to know the rules and regulation of kyc of a particular platform of Casino before making a deposit and the dream the process of the time of the drawing their money it is when they noticed that casino platform or that particular magazzino platform have terms and conditions to make before you withdraw

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June 05, 2023, 09:47:16 PM
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It’s relatively safe if it’s stored and collected by a trustworthy casino. Otherwise expect your data to be sold to ad agencies for research and targeted ads. And I know how important privacy is to most of us considering how aggressive these agencies are becoming by the day, and with news circulating that the government is spying on us. Anyhow, my point is that there’s really no use protecting our data if we have already sold it to somewhere else unknowingly. Facebook, Twitter, IG, and many other social media sites already did this in the past. So the least we could do for ourselves is just finish KYC so we can get on with our lives and be able to do tasks inside a reputable casino per usual.

Not saying we should just give up, but since this battle is already lost right from the get-go, efforts should be allocated over something else that people still could benefit from.
We dont know on what happens internally on which even if a certain trustable and reliable site, it cant really be still 100% where you would really be confident with those informations been stored up wont be used on other means. Im not saying that they are really doing this but we dont really know because once we had submitted then expect or already anticipate on what are the things that they could possibly do with those informations that had been gathered or accumulated. Some people do say that if they have done nothing, then why they would really be that getting scared of something?
Usually they would really be asking for some personal information whether they had seen something that you had violated their terms or you had able to win up some jackpot or huge profits
on which these platforms do usually this kind of standard asking out for verification which isnt something new.
For the most part you have a pretty clear picture of what every company does with your information. They sell it to advertising agencies to provide you with targeted ads to make you buy their stuff. It's all just a matter of who's going to take care of your information, and provide you with the targeted ads that you would be able to tolerate. That's why my money's on reliable companies and sites, at the very least you know for sure they're going to take care of your information, and most of them have a "Do not Sell my Data" clause on the privacy statement that you can take them to court with should you find out that they violated such guidelines. Basically you have legal powers over the casino and the information they collect from you when it's a reputable site. You wouldn't really have this amount of certainty on some other gambling site which sets them so far apart.

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June 05, 2023, 09:53:40 PM
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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.
it is not good for us to give our information to gambling companies because they might decided to sell the information and even though they don't have that plan, what about if there casino get hacked and the hackers get hold of the data and sell it to their parties and that can use it against to he person.
The information that you are given to all this online gambling does not matter anything then I'm not taking your information to anywhere that is to satisfy the criteria of withdrawing or doing their kyc verification there is nothing difference between your document with you verification and your banking documents does it mean that bank account still your document so even though they said their platforms and other place if you wish then you can continue to partner with that platform within the same verification document that is what I want some of you to understand

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