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June 10, 2023, 07:38:01 AM
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What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
That's why we have to check every casino we find so we can select it and add it to our personal list. The casino has given the rules for doing KYC and if it is a trusted casino, we can be calm about doing KYC at the casino because they will try to take good care of it.

But if it's a new site asking all its newly joined members to KYC immediately, we can skip that first. Later, after we can find reviews about the casino and it turns out that the casino is one of the people's recommendations, we can consider joining or skipping it.

By doing KYC at a trusted casino, we don't need to worry. But we must still be careful about sending personal documents and checking them first.
Generally, it is on our side how to determine if that site can be trusted to keep our personal data safe, otherwise, skip it.
So many casinos are existing these days and not all have the kind of security that we look for that is why thorough research is vital and so when asking for KYC. Definitely, will be asking ourselves"IF I have to do it or NOT" because trust doesn't just easy to create when doubts are in our mind. KYC is easy when we are sure that we are handling it over to the people/casino that assures safety on it.
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June 10, 2023, 12:13:18 PM
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Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
I see your point and sympathize with the frustration you've expressed. The practice of introducing KYC suddenly at the withdrawal stage is indeed questionable, and I concur that transparency is vital in such situations.

However, as tedious as it may be, due diligence falls on the user too. Every casino has its terms and conditions, albeit cloaked in convoluted jargon, it is there for us to understand their modus operandi.

It's akin to signing a contract without reading it, which is risky business in any scenario. An informed player is a safe player. So, let's put on our reading glasses and tackle those T&Cs like they're going out of style!

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June 10, 2023, 03:40:13 PM
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Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


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June 10, 2023, 09:05:48 PM
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Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
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June 10, 2023, 09:39:34 PM
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Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.


It is not right to assume that the data is not secure.  The platform will try its best to secure the data but as we all know there is no 100% assurance that the security of the data cannot be breached, but it is wrong to 100% assume that the data are not being secured by the company responsible for keeping the data secured.

Stating that the data is not secured simply tells the readers that the company is not doing its job in securing the data.  We can assume that there are possibilities of leakage but it does not come easily especially when a company is dedicated in securing their users data.

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June 10, 2023, 11:27:11 PM
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Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.


I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.



It is not right to assume that the data is not secure.  The platform will try its best to secure the data but as we all know there is no 100% assurance that the security of the data cannot be breached, but it is wrong to 100% assume that the data are not being secured by the company responsible for keeping the data secured.

Stating that the data is not secured simply tells the readers that the company is not doing its job in securing the data.  We can assume that there are possibilities of leakage but it does not come easily especially when a company is dedicated in securing their users data.
Weather or not the data are secured I border less since I do everything possible within my powers to avoid any casino that are not reliable to hold my data and as a matter of fact I make sure that I keep my deposits and withdrawal amount within the stated limit amount and that is ok for me instead risk my data, most of the reputable casinos we have around mostly don't ask for KYC documents unless if the account is suspected.,  but if a player doesncommitsmit any offence and followed the rules of the casino it will become easy for him to play without having any problems.



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AFAIK, most of the reputable casinos/services cooperate with third party services whose main job is to verify users identities. All documents are being redirected to those third party's servers.
Those services are bind by laws to never disclose user's data. Personalty, I consider them to be more trusted than any online service.

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June 11, 2023, 08:35:19 AM
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As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.
 
Now there are several gambling sites that do not require Kyc to withdraw funds. That's good news. But I don't know if big money withdrawal need Kyc or not. I've never withdrawn much money.

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

Now there are so many different casinos and gambling services that there are a lot of scam out of them. We can't trust everyone. And by sending them their documents to pass the KYC, no one is immune from the fact that the owners of the service did not steal a copy of it: passport, driver's license. I believe only in big services that have proven their reputation, and I believe that there is no need to look for other services. You will only waste time studying them, and most likely they are a scam.

At the same time, if you have decided for sure that you will upload your documents to the service, then it is better to do it right away. And not during the withdrawal of the first profit, because at this moment the service really likes not to make a positive decision on the KYC.

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AFAIK, most of the reputable casinos/services cooperate with third party services whose main job is to verify users identities. All documents are being redirected to those third party's servers.
Those services are bind by laws to never disclose user's data. Personalty, I consider them to be more trusted than any online service.

Yeah. Most of the casino that I do KYC used 3rd party KYC services to collect my ID and verify. I manage to do KYC on Duelbits, Blackjack.fun and Stake, all of them is not collecting data personally so I agree with you that reputable casino is very serious on handling KYC verification of their customers since they are obligated by AML policy to the that.

But I encounter some casino that let you submit documents through their email. I didn’t do this kind of process and it happened few years ago when centralized casino is just starting.



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June 11, 2023, 12:12:46 PM
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Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
There are many such gamblers who do not read the terms and conditions of gambling platform before registration. But when they face any kind of problems at the end of gambling, they have complaints about various things. Which is considered baseless in most cases. A gambler is not interested in reading the terms and conditions of his gambling platform where the problems are created. KYC is mandatory or not that is well mentioned in every casino. When a gambler does not follow those terms and instead brings up his complaints to the casino platform support, those issues are reported to him. Then he realized what was wrong. If every gambler tries to carefully read the terms and conditions before registration then KYC issues will be solved properly.

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June 11, 2023, 12:55:30 PM
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I think the KYC introduced into gambling sites is a good idea, for security reason but many people are scared of losing their informations to hackers which is very understandable whereas some sites like 1xbet have improved their securities by including options like 2fac authentication for login and withdrawal of profit just incase an account was hacked. The hacker can't have access to the account holders funds if they don't have access to their Google authenticator app which  is a very nice idea, making it very safe and secured for users.
where did you find out about the casino site? you should know that the casino has a bad reputation and even has many fraud allegations on the forum. I don't think you need to use and do KYC at the casino.
Moreover, we can get Casino with the additional 2FA authentication procedure at other better casinos. it doesn't address hacking. because what is hacked may not be your casino account, but the wallet from the casino where the money is stored.



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June 11, 2023, 03:24:45 PM
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I think the KYC introduced into gambling sites is a good idea, for security reason but many people are scared of losing their informations to hackers which is very understandable whereas some sites like 1xbet have improved their securities by including options like 2fac authentication for login and withdrawal of profit just incase an account was hacked. The hacker can't have access to the account holders funds if they don't have access to their Google authenticator app which  is a very nice idea, making it very safe and secured for users.
I don't think the KYC mechanisms is most aimed at securing players' funds but to fulfil regulatory compliance and that is what makes it hard to Know whether or not the data supplied as KYC will be secured and safe but if not then we can rest assured that we have hard our data exposed either to governments or hackers taking them. Off from the casino database.

2fa security authentication is almost available in all of the reputable casinos and not only 1xbet that have such even in stake.com,  there is an option to activate second FA security but subject to the player's desire.



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June 11, 2023, 04:01:10 PM
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I don't think the KYC mechanisms is most aimed at securing players' funds but to fulfil regulatory compliance and that is what makes it hard to Know whether or not the data supplied as KYC will be secured and safe but if not then we can rest assured that we have hard our data exposed either to governments or hackers taking them. Off from the casino database.

I think that indeed the kyc requirements are imposed by the casino to comply with existing regulations. Currently, state authorities always require KYC in all financial sectors or financial managers, including casinos. So I'm even more suspicious of casinos that don't ask for kyc on their sites, is it because they haven't been registered so they can provide a policy for playing gambling on their sites without kyc?

Kyc is a way for financial authorities to monitor and collect taxes

2fa security authentication is almost available in all of the reputable casinos ............

I agree with you. If it's a security issue, I think enabling 2FA is safe enough

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June 11, 2023, 04:41:06 PM
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I agree with you. If it's a security issue, I think enabling 2FA is safe enough
Yes available and ready to be used without any risk, and this security feature can protect your account up to 80%+ and it doesn't require users much info to set it up.

Unlike KYC where the player gives the documents and other personal details that are verified and kept in the casino database or other third-party data hosting sites which is prone to the risk of a hack or government access to those documents.



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June 11, 2023, 09:16:28 PM
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What i check first before is decide whether or not to olay on any site to see if the casino is reputable enough to handle my KYC data and keep them private, even though we can guarantee that but we can at least be careful about the kind of casino we lodge our details on as long as it not safe then not need to play there.
No matter how much reputed the casino is they can't guarantee that any of the details given by their customers will not be exposed because we all knew that anything that's uploaded into the internet is vulnerable to hack so when we are ready for KYC compliance then we also have to be ready with the consequences as well. But with the reputed names we can feel that they will have better security in their platform where the attacks from hackers can't do anything. All we can do is hope like no such thing will happen to the website where we completed KYC and it's also important to stick platforms which asks basic details for KYC not too much.
It is true. But i think that there is the solution that can help us to avoid such problems. It is the situation when casino don`t store your data. They can have a part of your data and when you KYC - they get proves and remove the data they have. It is difficult enough but if you verified you don`t need to KYC again. May be in situation when you change your wallets or passwords.

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June 11, 2023, 09:46:39 PM
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Not only by checking their reputation but also their TOS if they are requiring KYC in any form , because some sites mentioned about not having this security rules but suddenly upon withdrawal they will pretend to be checking your legitimacy so need  to pass details.
things that what I love in Honest casino that they already indicate profiling even before you decide to create account.
with those rules then we will decide if to continue or not.

A lot of cases Ive seen here and out the forum about the players surprised of the team verifying them after they won or if they wanted to take their funds out.

for me this is dishonesty and deserve a negative record for tha said casino , why not being truth from the beginning? this will end me think that their main intention is to fool people and nothing more.
hoping that the casinos for the future will never do such stupidity because this will record to their own names in the end.
I've seen people complaining about the same thing as well where the casino preached to be KYC-free but then asked for KYC, but that case is different because if a casino isn't saying anything about KYC and then asks you to verify yourself, it means that they have it in their terms and conditions but you didn't read them, a lot of people don't like reading terms and conditions because they find it boring or tiring which is why they get in trouble later on.

One should read the rules, terms and conditions, and frequently asked questions before they go ahead and make a deposit at a casino, if they are not satisfied with the rules of the platform, they should not gamble with them at all instead of complaining later.
There are many such gamblers who do not read the terms and conditions of gambling platform before registration. But when they face any kind of problems at the end of gambling, they have complaints about various things. Which is considered baseless in most cases. A gambler is not interested in reading the terms and conditions of his gambling platform where the problems are created. KYC is mandatory or not that is well mentioned in every casino. When a gambler does not follow those terms and instead brings up his complaints to the casino platform support, those issues are reported to him. Then he realized what was wrong. If every gambler tries to carefully read the terms and conditions before registration then KYC issues will be solved properly.
You've touched on a common trap—we often breeze through T&Cs as if they're foreign hieroglyphics, more keen on the game than comprehending the guidelines. Isn't that paradoxical? Addressing the biggie here—KYC. It may seem dull but it's crucial, and more so, it's spelled out in the T&Cs. Why feign shock when required to comply? We need a shift in perception—T&Cs are allies, not obstacles. They're our shields, not snares! Isn't it time to shed our indifference?

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June 11, 2023, 11:40:53 PM
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I agree with you. If it's a security issue, I think enabling 2FA is safe enough
Yes available and ready to be used without any risk, and this security feature can protect your account up to 80%+ and it doesn't require users much info to set it up.
It's a good measure to have this security feature by adding it to your account. 2FA is a good way to avoid the hackers of our accounts to penetrate and access our funds whether it's on a casino or an exchange quickly.

Unlike KYC where the player gives the documents and other personal details that are verified and kept in the casino database or other third-party data hosting sites which is prone to the risk of a hack or government access to those documents.
I think one reason why they do that is really for the government. They've been asked to do that because the government is asking them to do so, and they have no option but to provide everything for them and that's why they're asking customers to comply for kyc.

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June 12, 2023, 01:15:20 AM
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For me its not safe, but you cant do so much, also nowadays the goverment data sometimes its hacked so...... we dont know if already ou documents are in the web.

Plus i think with the IA thing and some advanced computer things, the bad guys can made fake profiles without ussing so much real persons.
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June 12, 2023, 04:24:54 AM
 #279

Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.
I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
That depends on which platform you are gambling on, most of the trusted and reputable casinos don't do that in the first place, and if they do, they will let their players know that their terms and conditions have been modified so that no one faces any issues and starts complaining later on. These kinds of platforms deserve to be trusted when it comes to verifying your KYC because they do care for their customers.

Providing your personal details and documents to a new and untrustworthy platform can cause issues in the long run if they turn out to be a scam or trade users' data with another company only to get more funds to invest in their platform. That's why it is not advisable to complete KYC on a new platform.

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June 12, 2023, 10:39:37 AM
 #280

Firstly, KYC is only as safe as the user license agreement you signed in the beginning. It is an agency and can be required to present data concerning any of its customer.

Lastly, the gambling company security system can also decide this, as any breach in any of its security protocol either by bugs, or better put hackers , scammers, can make any one of its users/customers data compromised.
I don't trust myself, I saw a thread here in the forum that talks about casinos that change their Tos for convenience, and that there are some casinos that are constantly changing those rules, and that for me is cheating, apart from the fact that they have to comply with the KYC requirement, so it is not secure, when we give our data on a platform, those data are not secure, there is a risk that they will be leaked, so kyc will never be secure, I do not trust 100% in this either when they say that they leave the Data in a casino like this is very old, it is safe, because the risks of hacking will always be present.
That depends on which platform you are gambling on, most of the trusted and reputable casinos don't do that in the first place, and if they do, they will let their players know that their terms and conditions have been modified so that no one faces any issues and starts complaining later on. These kinds of platforms deserve to be trusted when it comes to verifying your KYC because they do care for their customers.

Providing your personal details and documents to a new and untrustworthy platform can cause issues in the long run if they turn out to be a scam or trade users' data with another company only to get more funds to invest in their platform. That's why it is not advisable to complete KYC on a new platform.
The notion of trust is rather nuanced, particularly in the online casino realm. It's akin to a complex mosaic where every tiny piece contributes to the whole picture. Reputable casinos, of course, are like the cornerstone pieces - they tend to be more reliable However, when it comes to KYC procedures, the waters get murkier. Providing personal details is like opening the doors of your fortress to outsiders. You never know who might seize the opportunity for their own gains. That's why it's crucial to ensure the casino is as trustworthy as an old, loyal guard dog before opening those doors. Just because a platform has been around for a long time doesn't make it impenetrable. Even the most robust fortresses can be breached with the right siege equipment. Therefore, it's prudent to tread carefully. After all, wisdom is the strongest armor one can wear.

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