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June 15, 2023, 02:59:32 PM
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I’ve said it plenty before and possibly even on this thread, but providing your personal information to anyone is never safe. This should be evident with all of the hacks that regularly occur. If you do have to provide your identity information, make sure it’s to someone reputable, but even then it could very possibly be hacked and stolen.
Yes, you are right, of course there is never a safe place because everything has the possibility of being hacked and stolen, even in various cases the identity that is stored by my country can still be stolen and hacked, especially casinos, even though casinos with a high reputation can also be trusted, but there is still a possibility of loopholes to be stolen or hacked, but still KYC is an absolute requirement for licensed casinos.

If the casino asks us as users to complete KYC before withdrawing money at the casino, of course we have to comply and provide our identity unless we don't want to do that, of course we have to be willing to lose our money at the casino, but if you want to be free from KYC, play with a decentralized casino. but I also think it's not necessarily safe. all return to their respective goals and at their own risk  Cheesy

You're all right, why would you provide your personal and private informations to someone and expect things to be alright when they gave those informations stored on their personal centralized system and they can make use of it anything we are less aware to tackle us, in this instance i will only made a suggestion that gambler should always go in for a casino that has no KYC requirements when they are gambling provided they are privacy consciouss.
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June 15, 2023, 04:46:45 PM
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You're all right, why would you provide your personal and private informations to someone and expect things to be alright when they gave those informations stored on their personal centralized system and they can make use of it anything we are less aware to tackle us, in this instance i will only made a suggestion that gambler should always go in for a casino that has no KYC requirements when they are gambling provided they are privacy consciouss.

That's why it's important to determine first the credibility of the casino that you will submit your KYC information. Most of the centralised casino doesn't stored KYC on their own system since they hire 3rd party KYC services to collect and verify all the data. A casino usually not allowed to hold the KYC information by themselves if they don't have license to do it even if they are a gambling license. KYC requires another license in able for a casino to handle it by themselves.
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June 15, 2023, 05:34:18 PM
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I think that the honest and well-reputed gambling sites will do their best to protect the information of the users and they won't use it for any illegal purpose at all. But, I have heard that there are some other applications and sites which have misused the KYC data of their customers. I always recommend everyone to share your KYC data on only those gambling websites which have built up trust and reputation in the industry.
Of course one should never do KYC on those sites if there is no trust. I think giving personal information to those sites that have been running their business with reputation for a long time that would be fine. Also if one plans to do KYC in a licensed casino that too can be trusted. But putting your trust in someone who doesn't have a license to do KYC is risky. A gambler must have a good knowledge with the site before doing KYC. It is important to remember that those who have been surviving in the market for a long time have almost certainly reached this stage by ensuring proper KYC security.
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June 15, 2023, 06:01:34 PM
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I’ve said it plenty before and possibly even on this thread, but providing your personal information to anyone is never safe. This should be evident with all of the hacks that regularly occur. If you do have to provide your identity information, make sure it’s to someone reputable, but even then it could very possibly be hacked and stolen.
Yes, you are right, of course there is never a safe place because everything has the possibility of being hacked and stolen, even in various cases the identity that is stored by my country can still be stolen and hacked, especially casinos, even though casinos with a high reputation can also be trusted, but there is still a possibility of loopholes to be stolen or hacked, but still KYC is an absolute requirement for licensed casinos.

If the casino asks us as users to complete KYC before withdrawing money at the casino, of course we have to comply and provide our identity unless we don't want to do that, of course we have to be willing to lose our money at the casino, but if you want to be free from KYC, play with a decentralized casino. but I also think it's not necessarily safe. all return to their respective goals and at their own risk  Cheesy

You're all right, why would you provide your personal and private informations to someone and expect things to be alright when they gave those informations stored on their personal centralized system and they can make use of it anything we are less aware to tackle us, in this instance i will only suggested that gambler should always go in for a casino that has no KYC requirements when they are gambling provided they are privacy conscious.
The level of our data exposure depends on the reputation of the platform we submit our data to because for as far as we have been informed that some of the sites that seek for KYC cannot store those data on the storage so at there are forced to five the data out for third-party data storage like google cloud storage and the rest of the data hosting sites.

So if the security of the site is weak,  then it is better to rather care and worry about the safety of our KYC documents submitted to them otherwise we can choose not to hand out our information and sensitive documents for verification.
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June 15, 2023, 06:13:09 PM
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I think that the honest and well-reputed gambling sites will do their best to protect the information of the users and they won't use it for any illegal purpose at all. But, I have heard that there are some other applications and sites which have misused the KYC data of their customers. I always recommend everyone to share your KYC data on only those gambling websites which have built up trust and reputation in the industry.
Of course one should never do KYC on those sites if there is no trust. I think giving personal information to those sites that have been running their business with reputation for a long time that would be fine. Also if one plans to do KYC in a licensed casino that too can be trusted. But putting your trust in someone who doesn't have a license to do KYC is risky. A gambler must have a good knowledge with the site before doing KYC. It is important to remember that those who have been surviving in the market for a long time have almost certainly reached this stage by ensuring proper KYC security.
Are you saying that if I have my money stuck in a casino, and the only way my withdrawal request can be processed is by completing the requested kyc verification, I should do it simply because I do not trust the casino?

Well, to be sincere with you, as long as I am concerned, only a very few casinos are trusted, and that is those that have been in operation for long time and still continue to grow even this present time, and of such casinos are freebitco.in, Stake.com and a few others, every other casinos are pretty new and likely untrusted, but because they don't require kyc before user could deposit funds and play, they have users who deposit and play, and upon withdrawal, the casino might ask such user to submit his or her documents for kyc verification, if the user wants his or her money, I believe trusting the casino or not has nothing to do in such matter, the user have no choice but to submit the requested documents for kyc verification or forfeit his or her money to the casino.

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June 15, 2023, 06:47:06 PM
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I’ve said it plenty before and possibly even on this thread, but providing your personal information to anyone is never safe. This should be evident with all of the hacks that regularly occur. If you do have to provide your identity information, make sure it’s to someone reputable, but even then it could very possibly be hacked and stolen.
Yes, you are right, of course there is never a safe place because everything has the possibility of being hacked and stolen, even in various cases the identity that is stored by my country can still be stolen and hacked, especially casinos, even though casinos with a high reputation can also be trusted, but there is still a possibility of loopholes to be stolen or hacked, but still KYC is an absolute requirement for licensed casinos.

If the casino asks us as users to complete KYC before withdrawing money at the casino, of course we have to comply and provide our identity unless we don't want to do that, of course we have to be willing to lose our money at the casino, but if you want to be free from KYC, play with a decentralized casino. but I also think it's not necessarily safe. all return to their respective goals and at their own risk  Cheesy

You're all right, why would you provide your personal and private informations to someone and expect things to be alright when they gave those informations stored on their personal centralized system and they can make use of it anything we are less aware to tackle us, in this instance i will only made a suggestion that gambler should always go in for a casino that has no KYC requirements when they are gambling provided they are privacy consciouss.

I also think the same about KYC, when you give them you are exposed to everything, that they leak and are exposed, and that is something very delicate, it may be that some casinos are very safe, but I have seen that there are sites that they are very secure and that they suffer from these hacks and compromise all the data, here and anywhere, in the banks is where there is more security (that is what they sell) but it is insecure, any system will never be secure and all software will have its vulnerability and it will make it not safe either, the safest thing I've seen is the Vatican system, and when there are people who want to hack it they put them in jail.

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June 15, 2023, 06:59:36 PM
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So if the security of the site is weak,  then it is better to rather care and worry about the safety of our KYC documents submitted to them otherwise we can choose not to hand out our information and sensitive documents for verification.
If a gambling site's security is weak, it can be easily hacked, resulting in the loss of users' money. That's why it is important to choose a gambling site that has a high volume of gamblers patronizing them. With a significant amount of money at stake, these sites are motivated to prioritize strong security measures to safeguard funds, as well as the information and documents entrusted to them through KYC processes as one mistake could result to ruining their reputation which is a big loss for the business.

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June 15, 2023, 07:32:27 PM
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You're all right, why would you provide your personal and private informations to someone and expect things to be alright when they gave those informations stored on their personal centralized system and they can make use of it anything we are less aware to tackle us, in this instance i will only made a suggestion that gambler should always go in for a casino that has no KYC requirements when they are gambling provided they are privacy consciouss.

That's why it's important to determine first the credibility of the casino that you will submit your KYC information. Most of the centralised casino doesn't stored KYC on their own system since they hire 3rd party KYC services to collect and verify all the data. A casino usually not allowed to hold the KYC information by themselves if they don't have license to do it even if they are a gambling license. KYC requires another license in able for a casino to handle it by themselves.
It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

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June 15, 2023, 07:57:52 PM
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It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

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June 15, 2023, 09:55:33 PM
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It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

But you should not forget to check their ToS in terms of KYC requirements.
Even if they are not requiring you to submit one, you need to remind yourself that if it is stated on their terms,
you should always prepare your KYC docs, and should correspond to the details you entered to the site to avoid trouble.
We can't be so sure that these casinos won't ask KYC from you. They can easily do random checks and ask your credentials.
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June 15, 2023, 10:03:40 PM
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It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

But you should not forget to check their ToS in terms of KYC requirements.
Even if they are not requiring you to submit one, you need to remind yourself that if it is stated on their terms,
you should always prepare your KYC docs, and should correspond to the details you entered to the site to avoid trouble.
We can't be so sure that these casinos won't ask KYC from you. They can easily do random checks and ask your credentials.
Checking the Tos to get familiar with the KYC requirement and how the casino handles kyc data make more sense than practically neglecting the to and there after blame the casino if you kyc data never get approved or not,  but once you get verification for the submitted documents,  the security of the data provided is now left in the hands of the casino and how the store those data becomes their responsibility most time we are unaware of what happen to those data afterwards but we trust the casino to protect our privacy as much as possible.
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June 15, 2023, 11:04:28 PM
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^^
This is why you shouldn't trust all services when uploading your files.
Some casinos, most of them are reputable ones, use third party companies to verify customers identities.
If you trust the casino you are playing at, can you trust the third party companies they are dealing with!
As I said in one of my previous posts: the moment you upload one of your documents, you should consider it as compromised regardless of the service you upload it to.

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June 15, 2023, 11:39:27 PM
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It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

I think there are some countries that are very strict and the casino may require KYC for gamblers from the region so that it will aid them to checkmate the proper regulation from the country. Country like Canada, US, England and other European countries are very stricts when it comes to KYC. Casinos have no option than to succome to rules to continue there stay in the region. For me, I don't like KYC casinos so always observe and ask questions when I want to use new casinos to bet. Leaving our information on casinos can be very risky, mostly when we do that with random casinos or online exchanges. It is good for us to have some atom of privacy when we gamble online.









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It can be found if we can look for it carefully because with so many casinos nowadays, not all casinos will allow gamblers not to do KYC. Casinos today are different than they were a few years ago, and with government interference, they have to keep up if they want to continue doing business. And if we have found a casino that really can be trusted, we should also be able to be calm about doing KYC because the casino will try to protect the important data of its customers.

Most of the casinos do look at what country you are from and base their regulations on their judgment as to whether they will require you to undergo KYC or not. I have friends who are into sports betting or gambling in casinos, but they are not required to go through KYC, just like me. Therefore, we enjoy the full liberty of gambling anonymously.

I think there are some countries that are very strict and the casino may require KYC for gamblers from the region so that it will aid them to checkmate the proper regulation from the country. Country like Canada, US, England and other European countries are very stricts when it comes to KYC. Casinos have no option than to succome to rules to continue there stay in the region. For me, I don't like KYC casinos so always observe and ask questions when I want to use new casinos to bet. Leaving our information on casinos can be very risky, mostly when we do that with random casinos or online exchanges. It is good for us to have some atom of privacy when we gamble online.

They have that strong regulation to make sure the existence of their permits will not be affected in case issue
comes out because of any regulations that imply to KYC.

If you are not comfortable with submitting personal data, it's better to look for any place that will allow you to continue playing.

Just make sure that you are just using small amount of capital, it's very likely to submit verification
when you have huge amount of money to withdraw.
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Just make sure that you are just using small amount of capital, it's very likely to submit verification
when you have huge amount of money to withdraw.

That's typically the scenario with most gambling sites. Some sites don't require Know Your Customer (KYC) verification initially, but once you start winning significant amounts, they may trigger the KYC process. Currently, most of the gambling sites I play on do not require KYC. However, I have familiarized myself with the information in case they do require it. You are correct that we should not invest a large amount of capital as it could be compromised if we fail to meet the KYC requirements.

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Thanks for all the discussions. I read a lot of comments. That many people disagree with kyc. But I haven't seen anyone commenting that there was fraud or KYC abuse from gambling sites. Hope I didn't miss that comment.

Is it just over-worrying?

Probably. The general opinion is that when you send KYC documents they are potentially compromised, but this happens even on large exchanges like Coinbase, where data can be hacked or even sold by them. In general, the more reputable the casino or the site in general, the less likely it is that there will be a problem with your data, but once you have submitted it, you can't be sure of anything.

It is that in this life there is nothing Safe , it may be that we are on the most secure Platform in the World, even so they can suffer Hacking attacks or Similar things, and if so, they can easily filter the data that we do not want to be Filtered and there goodbye to everything , so it is not the idea either, because we always trust the game platforms, we do what we see fit but still we could have that high probability that things get out of hand and get out of hand but, That is why many disagree with KYC , especially when it is in crypto casinos  , it is not what it should be , because that is why crypto is used to skip all these requirements.

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Just make sure that you are just using small amount of capital, it's very likely to submit verification
when you have huge amount of money to withdraw.

That's typically the scenario with most gambling sites. Some sites don't require Know Your Customer (KYC) verification initially, but once you start winning significant amounts, they may trigger the KYC process. Currently, most of the gambling sites I play on do not require KYC. However, I have familiarized myself with the information in case they do require it. You are correct that we should not invest a large amount of capital as it could be compromised if we fail to meet the KYC requirements.
if casinos declared that they will collect KYC, this doesnt mean that they will collect it early on. It is a nice thing that there are casino that only collect KYC when there are rediculous amount of money that is being taken out from their casino or if there are unusual activity on the account. Many gamblers are spared from doing KYC even if it is required. I myself only submitted a KYC on a separate casino twice even though I play on different casino. If my information is leaked, there's only two casinos to blame.
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If my information is leaked, there's only two casinos to blame.

But how far can we go in terms of legal action against them?

These casinos are operating in different countries, so it's challenging on our side since there are no specific ways to sue them for leaking our information.

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^^
This is why you shouldn't trust all services when uploading your files.
Some casinos, most of them are reputable ones, use third party companies to verify customers identities.
If you trust the casino you are playing at, can you trust the third party companies they are dealing with!
As I said in one of my previous posts: the moment you upload one of your documents, you should consider it as compromised regardless of the service you upload it to.
Usually big casinos won't ask for it if something odd is detected and make a big withdrawal or big win, usually the casino will ask the user to complete KYC including asking the user to upload an identity file to make sure even though it's hard to trust the casino but we are faced with withdrawal and account freezing so it doesn't can withdraw money.

Usually people who are asked for KYC and provide document files of course because of this problem and two possibilities they can't refuse either because casino regulations have stipulated that whenever the casino has the right to ask users to complete KYC. that's why sometimes it's safe or unsafe, everything returns to the users, as long as it's a trusted casino site, everything is safe in my opinion.

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There are no guarantees that any documents and data you send online will ever be deleted even if the company you’re sending your data to claims to do so

That said
It’s unlikely that on big and reputable websites you’ll have problems with your data and documents.
It could always happen but we don’t hear a lot about it

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