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July 02, 2023, 10:14:56 PM
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We all know that KYC is needed for gambling on most online casino,if any casino does not ask for KYC during registration,you should be careful with such casinos because at the end of the day,when you win big,you will be asked to provide KYC for them to give your access to withdraw your funds. We know that casinos can leak out our information to the government or other institution who seek for it because casinos are not to be trusted with our informations. This doesn't mean that we should stop gambling since most big and reputable casino must ask for KYC because they are operating under government regulations. I don't see anything wrong there for you to pick provide the required information to enable you have fun through gambling.
What I think is bad here is Because of the data Leaks , I don't like my data being Leaked , and I'm not a millionaire or anything like that, where it was and I'd like to bet , and I would go to the best casinos in the world, here they are, I have seen them  I could leave my KYC, but that does not mean that my data is safe, because a hack to a casino and all that data is gone, and not only the The criminal will rob the Casino , he will steal the information of the players who bet more in a Casino, because it is known that if they bet more it is because they have more money, so this is a Security issue, it is not for Nothing , Security is Everything.

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July 02, 2023, 10:25:36 PM
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I think it best to avoid casinos that demand for KYC from its users recklessly without any form of activities from the player that looks suspicious and if the casino can not provide security of the data their ask for why then will their ask of it in the first place.

Look like gamblers are a bit left in the dark for this,  since it not clear to them what exactly happen to their KYC detail at the backend,  and no casino will ever come out to say that customers' data have bee leaked and stolen, so the gambler may think that he is free meanwhile his IDs may be used to carry out crimes thatt he may not be aware.
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July 02, 2023, 11:50:16 PM
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You are right but we all know that no website is 100% safe. Even the biggest websites have been hacked. I don't think there is much a customer can do in this case other than using reputable services/casinos and submit documents to them only when it's necessary. One more thing the casino can do is to delete the uploaded files as soon as the customer's identity has been verified. I don't see any reason to store such data!
The most important thing is to avoid uploading personal documents to random websites. I remember reading about a case where the support agent asked the customer to upload his document directly to him on the chat window! This is an example of casinos you should avoid dealing with.

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July 02, 2023, 11:52:58 PM
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All the people are not the same so there are many variations in their way of thinking. KYC seems normal to some but dangerous to others. Overall casino gambling platform can benefit a gambler in several ways. In particular, it is possible to get proper solutions for withdrawal and account related problems. Now a days a gambler's personal information is stored securely in all the reputable casinos or gambling platforms. A gambler can be involved in various types of crimes. Once KYC is completed, casino gambling platforms have information of the customers so that no one can commit crimes.
To be honest, gambling site will not ask you KYC if there was no regulation to force those site to comply with AML regulation. The gambling site only needs your money but they don't care so much with our identity. The only problem if regulators have been making it as standard for gamblign site to make sure it will be far from dealing with the money laundering. That's why sometime the site was asking for KYC. As long as it stored securely and i think that people have no problem with it.

The only problem if data gets leaked and this gonna be a problem. It's all about how to comply with the regulation that's followed by the gambling provider.

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July 02, 2023, 11:54:31 PM
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I think it best to avoid casinos that demand for KYC from its users recklessly without any form of activities from the player that looks suspicious and if the casino can not provide security of the data their ask for why then will their ask of it in the first place.
Many do it for reasons and they only figure it out when a user thinks it's unfair that he's been asked for a kyc. But I do agree that if it's a reckless way of asking that shouldn't be patronized. Well, situations like this do happen to many gamblers and if the casino won't disclose any reason, you have no option but to oblige because your funds are kept and you'll not be able to withdraw them. So, in the end, you'll have to comply despite that you do want to keep kyc-free but you'll never know when they'll start to ask you.

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July 03, 2023, 03:35:20 AM
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I don't understand what are people trying to say in this thread!
They just simply say that saving data online is not safe. That is the point, whatever the place, casino, exchange, drive, cloud, or any provider online is not safe. We've very often talked about this on the forum, I don't know why we are still asking about it. if they still take KYC on the platform, do it at their own risk, and don't blame anyone, especially casinos, or maybe accuse and impeach them of selling customer KYC. At this time, I never heard of any casino where we endorse the signature leaked on the KYC. So if OP wants to be safe, choose one of the signatures we endorse.

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July 03, 2023, 05:02:49 AM
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Firstly, all casinos have the obligation to ask for your credential to see your age, which is essential if you are over 18+ since all casinos do so. Secondly, they send their documents to avoid money laundering or any illegal suspicion.
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July 03, 2023, 06:38:53 AM
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Firstly, all casinos have the obligation to ask for your credential to see your age, which is essential if you are over 18+ since all casinos do so. Secondly, they send their documents to avoid money laundering or any illegal suspicion.
Yes that's the reason why casinos ask users to complete KYC, because to prevent money laundering, but there are also casinos that force users to complete KYC when they win big money or make large deposits and in the end it makes it difficult for users to complete KYC then freezes money finally frustrated users leave their account.

Maybe there are many factors that users want to complete KYC and it's not just a matter of privacy but there are other reasons that make them doubt it, but personally I've never had a problem with that as long as it's a big casino I have no problem completing KYC, it's just that I'm a small gambler betting only with small money, the casino didn't ask me to complete KYC, there are several cases if the casino goes missing of course the user's KYC isn't so secure as is currently happening in the Betnomi case. some people worry about their identity there. because the casino is under maintenance without notice.

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July 03, 2023, 09:33:22 AM
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Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering.
Why does it happen that KYC is only asked when you try to withdraw money? Can't your funds come from illegal activities if you lose all the money in online casino?
Here is the thing: Casinos know that the real reason people don't submit KYC data is because of data leaks and at the same time these casinos know that they don't have top-notch security on KYC documents. But at the same time they know that regulations allow them to ask for KYC to their customers. It's like, they know people don't like KYC and some even lose their money and don't submit KYC, but on another hand, regulations allow them to ask for KYC, so, casinos are like, why not?
If you want the KYC, ask me when I register or deposit money, why do you ask me when I try to withdraw money?

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July 03, 2023, 10:56:02 AM
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Firstly, all casinos have the obligation to ask for your credential to see your age, which is essential if you are over 18+ since all casinos do so. Secondly, they send their documents to avoid money laundering or any illegal suspicion.

Yes this is one of method use by casino to know if there costumer is at legal age so players should understand that casino need to comply with this or else they will be the one penalized by the law. If they can't afford to do KYC much better if they could just leave the casino which implement that and seek for another casino which still doesn't require this. But the downside with this is almost all new casino doesn't require this and yet we don't know if we can trust them.

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July 03, 2023, 11:34:14 AM
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I don't understand what are people trying to say in this thread!
They just simply say that saving data online is not safe. That is the point, whatever the place, casino, exchange, drive, cloud, or any provider online is not safe. We've very often talked about this on the forum, I don't know why we are still asking about it. if they still take KYC on the platform, do it at their own risk, and don't blame anyone, especially casinos, or maybe accuse and impeach them of selling customer KYC. At this time, I never heard of any casino where we endorse the signature leaked on the KYC. So if OP wants to be safe, choose one of the signatures we endorse.
Online data security is crucial. Casinos, exchanges, and cloud storage all risk data breaches. We regularly emphasize the need of alertness. KYC complicates matters. Sharing personal data is significant, and platforms must safeguard it. It's about being honest and keeping services responsible, not blaming. We recommend data protection-focused providers here. This recommendation is based on security performance, not lip service. These services provide peace of mind.

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July 03, 2023, 09:01:16 PM
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Firstly, all casinos have the obligation to ask for your credential to see your age, which is essential if you are over 18+ since all casinos do so. Secondly, they send their documents to avoid money laundering or any illegal suspicion.

Yes this is one of method use by casino to know if there costumer is at legal age so players should understand that casino need to comply with this or else they will be the one penalized by the law. If they can't afford to do KYC much better if they could just leave the casino which implement that and seek for another casino which still doesn't require this. But the downside with this is almost all new casino doesn't require this and yet we don't know if we can trust them.

That's the risk. We don't know if the site is regulated by government laws. Like both of you, the process of KYC is to know
if whether the player is already in a legal age and they are not committing money laundering.

It's enforced by law to submit this information, else, the government will suspend the casino permit to facilitate. In terms of trust
if you are willing to submit your information.

All need to research as there are many casino sites and you need to pick which site you think will take care of your private information.
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July 03, 2023, 09:46:42 PM
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I don't understand what are people trying to say in this thread!
They just simply say that saving data online is not safe. That is the point, whatever the place, casino, exchange, drive, cloud, or any provider online is not safe. We've very often talked about this on the forum, I don't know why we are still asking about it. if they still take KYC on the platform, do it at their own risk, and don't blame anyone, especially casinos, or maybe accuse and impeach them of selling customer KYC. At this time, I never heard of any casino where we endorse the signature leaked on the KYC. So if OP wants to be safe, choose one of the signatures we endorse.

As far as my understanding is related to the internet or digital world, nothing is truly safe. even all of them have the potential, that our data can be misused if the KYC service provider commits irregularities. Or, the site is hacked and everything is at risk. well, so we agree with what you mentioned. in fact, the devices that we use, be it PCs, Smartphones, have the potential to leak if someone hacks them. it's just that, the question is what are they hacking for if they don't have the interests they want. in short, anything related to the Internet, absolutely nothing guarantees 100% security. I mean, trouble can come from anywhere.

Regarding KYC, this has always been a problem for us in the community. this problem, there will always be pros and cons. for me personally, no problem with KYC. as long as the gambling site I use has requirements that meet my own standards, I will be willing to perform KYC on a site that I trust conditionally. they have a credible license + reputation that I can trust. thus, I will not be in trouble if I am required to meet requirements that require doing KYC.

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July 03, 2023, 10:55:46 PM
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I don't understand what are people trying to say in this thread!
They just simply say that saving data online is not safe. That is the point, whatever the place, casino, exchange, drive, cloud, or any provider online is not safe. We've very often talked about this on the forum, I don't know why we are still asking about it. if they still take KYC on the platform, do it at their own risk, and don't blame anyone, especially casinos, or maybe accuse and impeach them of selling customer KYC. At this time, I never heard of any casino where we endorse the signature leaked on the KYC. So if OP wants to be safe, choose one of the signatures we endorse.

As far as my understanding is related to the internet or digital world, nothing is truly safe. even all of them have the potential, that our data can be misused if the KYC service provider commits irregularities. Or, the site is hacked and everything is at risk. well, so we agree with what you mentioned. in fact, the devices that we use, be it PCs, Smartphones, have the potential to leak if someone hacks them. it's just that, the question is what are they hacking for if they don't have the interests they want. in short, anything related to the Internet, absolutely nothing guarantees 100% security. I mean, trouble can come from anywhere.

In online activities, there is always a chance that a site or a data storage can be breached or hacked.  So we really cannot say 100% that the KYC data on gambling sites are safe.  Besides, I believe that the casino does not handle the KYC process but rather a third-party company that is expert on verifying the validity of the documents is hired to process the KYC.

Regarding KYC, this has always been a problem for us in the community. this problem, there will always be pros and cons. for me personally, no problem with KYC. as long as the gambling site I use has requirements that meet my own standards, I will be willing to perform KYC on a site that I trust conditionally. they have a credible license + reputation that I can trust. thus, I will not be in trouble if I am required to meet requirements that require doing KYC.

I also don't find a legitimate platform asking for KYC a problem.  As long as they are licensed and their action is bound by the law, they are also bound with the data privacy act which can secure us that they will not leak our identities unless their user data has been breached.

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July 03, 2023, 11:59:29 PM
 #475

I don't understand what are people trying to say in this thread!
They just simply say that saving data online is not safe. That is the point, whatever the place, casino, exchange, drive, cloud, or any provider online is not safe. We've very often talked about this on the forum, I don't know why we are still asking about it. if they still take KYC on the platform, do it at their own risk, and don't blame anyone, especially casinos, or maybe accuse and impeach them of selling customer KYC. At this time, I never heard of any casino where we endorse the signature leaked on the KYC. So if OP wants to be safe, choose one of the signatures we endorse.
Online data security is crucial. Casinos, exchanges, and cloud storage all risk data breaches. We regularly emphasize the need of alertness. KYC complicates matters. Sharing personal data is significant, and platforms must safeguard it. It's about being honest and keeping services responsible, not blaming. We recommend data protection-focused providers here. This recommendation is based on security performance, not lip service. These services provide peace of mind.

Everything stored online or even on cloud would really be having that kind of risks when it comes to exploits and breaches and this is  why it would really be needing that kind of updated and maintained security overtime
because we know that hackers do continue to progress on which they would really be bypassing on everything which they do seem that they could bruteforce and make and snip out money out of it or any valuable things on which they could make money through it.This is why on the time that you have sent out your information online then expect about those certain situations which it might really be that could happen hopefully not
but the risk is always there.

This is why as much as possible i dont really recommend out nor really prefer on platforms on which it do really ask out some documentations or KYC in the first place.

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July 04, 2023, 08:41:22 AM
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I don't understand what are people trying to say in this thread!

They start saying KYC is bad, there's nothing safe in online, KYC leaked, I will avoid KYC etc etc and then they would say if the casino is big and reputable I don't mind to submit KYC in the last sentence lol.

If you're think you can't accept to submit KYC, just don't gamble on regulated and licensed casino in the first place.

Some people got an introduction with the gambling casino that is always seeking a KYC verification once they account got tag or something of the gambling casino even though not all part of the KYC is bad. We know we are using now with the crypto currency and anonymity is important but it's their platform it's their rules.
At the first place the player must need to read the terms and the terms conditions to know if there's a minimum requirement to gamble or not. At the end if you don't want their KYC a lot of casino offering a lower level of it or no KYC.

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July 04, 2023, 11:37:32 AM
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At the end if you don't want their KYC a lot of casino offering a lower level of it or no KYC.

But the question is, are they reputable enough to trust your money? I believe most of the reputable casinos are already regulated, which means they cannot claim that gambling on their site is 100% anonymous. Eventually, KYC requirements will be imposed, and as gamblers who like to use their services, we will certainly be compelled to comply with such requirements.

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July 04, 2023, 12:10:48 PM
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At the end if you don't want their KYC a lot of casino offering a lower level of it or no KYC.

But the question is, are they reputable enough to trust your money? I believe most of the reputable casinos are already regulated, which means they cannot claim that gambling on their site is 100% anonymous. Eventually, KYC requirements will be imposed, and as gamblers who like to use their services, we will certainly be compelled to comply with such requirements.

No doubt, the regulations required the gamblers to submit their KYC, as it's one of the requirements from the casino for you to
enjoy the full usages of the platform.

Though there are some that can still allow you to play but with a minimal money involve, but once you request to withdraw larger amounts
the requirements will be implemented and you don't have any other choice but to comply.

It's about trust, as you can't do anything if you need to play or if you need to get your money out.
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July 04, 2023, 06:03:46 PM
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At the end if you don't want their KYC a lot of casino offering a lower level of it or no KYC.

But the question is, are they reputable enough to trust your money? I believe most of the reputable casinos are already regulated, which means they cannot claim that gambling on their site is 100% anonymous. Eventually, KYC requirements will be imposed, and as gamblers who like to use their services, we will certainly be compelled to comply with such requirements.

No doubt, the regulations required the gamblers to submit their KYC, as it's one of the requirements from the casino for you to
enjoy the full usages of the platform.

Though there are some that can still allow you to play but with a minimal money involve, but once you request to withdraw larger amounts
the requirements will be implemented and you don't have any other choice but to comply.

It's about trust, as you can't do anything if you need to play or if you need to get your money out.
It seems to me that the widespread introduction of identity verification using the KYC procedure will be quite soon. 
Already this summer, most likely, American legislators will finally sort out the status of cryptocurrencies and adopt the appropriate fiscal laws.  It would then be very risky for any casino not to perform the prescribed identity verification. 
However, the KYC verification itself is already outdated and is gradually becoming a thing of the past for the simple reason that the development of digital technologies and the collection of biometric information are gradually making it meaningless to confirm your identity when a bank or casino connected to global systems for collecting personal information + AI is used in these processes  so with a probability of 99.999% they know who you are. 
So in this paradigm, KYC only takes your time for nonsense, but in general it just annoys me whenever it is required of me, although they themselves have already checked it and everyone knows about me.

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July 04, 2023, 06:22:21 PM
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If you data is secret - the best way don`t share it. Nowadays we see how big companies loose their clients data. So when we talking about casino - we have to assume that our data would be stolen. But as for me - we lose our data every day, and if you worry about it - you mustn`t provide your data anybody, not only casino.
The way things are these days with centralized businesses with regulations and licenses and authorities suing and seizing companies and websites, I doubt if users really have any choice. To be able to gamble online, you will either need to provide KYC information or choose to risk your money by choosing a platform that doesn't ask for KYC but isn't trusted and reputable, now it's up to a gambler which of these two options he chooses.

Personally, I would rather choose a trusted and reputable platform and complete my KYC to experience uninterrupted gambling instead of using a platform that I don't trust nor does the community to risk my money and I might not even be able to withdraw if I manage to win something significant.
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