topman21 scam my 40$ help me

[LDL]

Of course I refund 40$ but not directly scammer address.

I will send BTC in escrow address...

To try and save the OP some $$$ as it's only $40 I have asked the OP to post his btc address in this thread and for LDL to send directly to his wallet. No need to send money to me then me to OP and lose more in fees for him.

LDL can quote the address and post a txid for proof.

I am waiting for Xavi20 BTC address for refund BTC...

Of course I will post here tx and screenshot of proof.

[1714606355]

1714606355

[1714606355]

1714606355

[1714606355]

1714606355

[Dunamisx]

topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.  At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.  Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier.  what can i do now  help me  How can I get my money back?

You have also made a big mistake for trusting someone you just met on a platform and engage dealing your money with such user, you're already behaving like a novice without being exposed because right from reading your story first paragraph, it all tells about the kind of person you could also be, secondly being a newbie and you've already got batched with a negative feedback, which is also an indication that you've been involved in some things you're not expected and merging your profile together with your experience will give a perfect match o the kind of person you are by yourself.

[T3PR00T]

Of course I refund 40$ but not directly scammer address.

I will send BTC in escrow address...

Does not add up, why an escrow where it's clear if op post an address then everyone will see the refund transaction.

[Xavi20]

The above address is mine but today someone sent 40 dollars (BTC) using my address.
But surprisingly someone has used my address to destroy my reputation. I know nothing about this.

Can you explain more details? How can someone use your address to ruin your reputation? Has your wallet been emptied, or is it that $40?
It's a strange coincidence, so try to explain in detail, otherwise you will be accused.

I agree with you. I will not take the money back now.  Until we get a clear solution to this problem. I have some personal questions

1. Why a person can use LDL wallet address to damage their reputation.  Where $40 is a large amount.  And no scammer wants to miss out.  So I don't think any way a scammer would send $40 to someone else's address.  I want a clear explanation of this. Because if we ignore it as a simple problem, someone else may face a bigger financial loss in the future

2. Why is LDL only excited to return btc without explaining anything here. and he seems to think it's a common thing

[yahoo62278]

The above address is mine but today someone sent 40 dollars (BTC) using my address.
But surprisingly someone has used my address to destroy my reputation. I know nothing about this.

Can you explain more details? How can someone use your address to ruin your reputation? Has your wallet been emptied, or is it that $40?
It's a strange coincidence, so try to explain in detail, otherwise you will be accused.

I agree with you. I will not take the money back now.  Until we get a clear solution to this problem. I have some personal questions

1. Why a person can use LDL wallet address to damage their reputation.  Where $40 is a large amount.  And no scammer wants to miss out.  So I don't think any way a scammer would send $40 to someone else's address.  I want a clear explanation of this. Because if we ignore it as a simple problem, someone else may face a bigger financial loss in the future

2. Why is LDL only excited to return btc without explaining anything here. and he seems to think it's a common thing

Unfortunately, you should have had the seller pm you on the forum so you could show some sort of interaction on the forum and a connection. Anyone can be anyone on telegram. There are a ton of threads addressing users impersonating them on telegram. Yes, it's fishy that someone would use LDL address instead of their own to take the money, but we cannot prove he isn't telling the truth and someone is trying to frame him. I'm not saying I do or do not believe him, there are so many damn scammers on this forum, but no proof so no accusation will come from me.

Connect the address that received the money to an address topman posted on the forum, then we have something to go on. Otherwise, you mentioned $40 was a load for you. Take your money and pursue the case, you refusing a refund could look fishy in some eyes. Maybe you're a part of this elaborate scam? See how accusations can just fly?

 

Of course I refund 40$ but not directly scammer address.

I will send BTC in escrow address...

Does not add up, why an escrow where it's clear if op post an address then everyone will see the refund transaction.

Hey, the thread is less than 2 pages, please read replies before posting.

[Little Mouse]

Can you explain more details? How can someone use your address to ruin your reputation? Has your wallet been emptied, or is it that $40?
It's a strange coincidence, so try to explain in detail, otherwise you will be accused.

I can't see anything LDL has left to explain. A matter about which he doesn't know at all, what he can explain further. The address was posted publicly on the forum. Anyone can send the address to anyone else. That doesn't make the address owner scammer, nor the address owner has an explanation here. What would you tell if a scammer sent your address to me claiming that it's his address?

Both Dmriti64 and LDL is from my local. To me, it's an attempt to defame LDL and Dmriti64 or either one of them. LDL has shared he doesn't know anything. He is also ready to send the fund back to the original owner. That's the best he can do and he is ready to do so. I don't think there's anything left until further investigation.

Take your money and pursue the case, you refusing a refund could look fishy in some eyes. Maybe you're a part of this elaborate scam? See how accusations can just fly?

My first impression after I read the whole topic and his last response, was the same. It seems he is the part of the pre-planned scam.

OP, LDL is ready to send you the fund back. Give him an address here and get it.

[Xavi20]

topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.  At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.  Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier.  what can i do now  help me  How can I get my money back?

You have also made a big mistake for trusting someone you just met on a platform and engage dealing your money with such user, you're already behaving like a novice without being exposed because right from reading your story first paragraph, it all tells about the kind of person you could also be, secondly being a newbie and you've already got batched with a negative feedback, which is also an indication that you've been involved in some things you're not expected and merging your profile together with your experience will give a perfect match o the kind of person you are by yourself.

Don Pedro  Dinero  has a negative tag on my profile.  Which I don't think is fair at the moment.  He gave me a red tag because our conversation and my post mentioned that I went to purchase an account.  Don Pedro Dinero tries to undermine the content of this topic with this Red Tag. doing because even senior members hugeblack & yahoo62278 are not deciding to tag me yet. then how can he jump to tag me.
I am a newbie so I won't get any fair trial. Does this scandal seem too trivial to yours?

[Ultegra134]

~Snipped~

LDL and I were typing almost simultaneously, but my response was posted a few minutes later. Certainly, there isn't enough evidence, but it's not that there isn't any proof regarding LDL and the conducted transaction; this doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. Why would someone try to ruin his reputation, while the Telegram messages show a great similarity with how LDL is writing? Another user is claiming that it's an attempt by someone on their local board to defame him and another user, but there's no proof of that. How do we know that it's not a network of scammers blaming each other and then proceeding to say that they've been framed? Why would someone who's trying to frame LDL send money to his wallet, since it can easily be returned? He could impersonate him in plenty of other ways.

I'm not sure, but the whole situation seems sketchy enough, and no evidence is easy to discover. The OP should at least receive his money back and turn this into a valuable lesson.

[Solosanz]

Don Pedro  Dinero  has a negative tag on my profile.  Which I don't think is fair at the moment.  He gave me a red tag because our conversation and my post mentioned that I went to purchase an account.  Don Pedro Dinero tries to undermine the content of this topic with this Red Tag. doing because even senior members hugeblack & yahoo62278 are not deciding to tag me yet. then how can he jump to tag me.

Did you mean only an user with 2500+ merits or already been in this forum since 2017 are allowed to leave a red tag?

An user without any post, merit or activity could become a DT member as long as there's a DT1 member include his username. There's no solid rule which one can leave a red tag, any user including you can leave a red tag too.

1. Why a person can use LDL wallet address to damage their reputation.  Where $40 is a large amount.

It's subjective, you can say $40 is big, but some people can say it's small because they can earn it for working in single day.

Why would someone who's trying to frame LDL send money to his wallet, since it can easily be returned? He could impersonate him in plenty of other ways.

Because the goal of this case isn't to earn money.

I wouldn't draw any conclusion, but this case is quite interesting, it's still in a grey area.

[T3PR00T]

~Snipped~

LDL and I were typing almost simultaneously, but my response was posted a few minutes later. Certainly, there isn't enough evidence, but it's not that there isn't any proof regarding LDL and the conducted transaction; this doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. Why would someone try to ruin his reputation, while the Telegram messages show a great similarity with how LDL is writing? Another user is claiming that it's an attempt by someone on their local board to defame him and another user, but there's no proof of that. How do we know that it's not a network of scammers blaming each other and then proceeding to say that they've been framed? Why would someone who's trying to frame LDL send money to his wallet, since it can easily be returned? He could impersonate him in plenty of other ways.

I'm not sure, but the whole situation seems sketchy enough, and no evidence is easy to discover. The OP should at least receive his money back and turn this into a valuable lesson.

If anyone ask any explanation then only topman can answer but we all know he is not going to drop a single word.

So let's not exaggerate it with imaginations. Once LDL refund, it's solved.

[yahoo62278]

topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.  At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.  Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier.  what can i do now  help me  How can I get my money back?

You have also made a big mistake for trusting someone you just met on a platform and engage dealing your money with such user, you're already behaving like a novice without being exposed because right from reading your story first paragraph, it all tells about the kind of person you could also be, secondly being a newbie and you've already got batched with a negative feedback, which is also an indication that you've been involved in some things you're not expected and merging your profile together with your experience will give a perfect match o the kind of person you are by yourself.

Don Pedro  Dinero  has a negative tag on my profile.  Which I don't think is fair at the moment.  He gave me a red tag because our conversation and my post mentioned that I went to purchase an account.  Don Pedro Dinero tries to undermine the content of this topic with this Red Tag. doing because even senior members hugeblack & yahoo62278 are not deciding to tag me yet. then how can he jump to tag me.
I am a newbie so I won't get any fair trial. Does this scandal seem too trivial to yours?

Account sales are not illegal but they are discouraged by the community. What that means is, you can engage in the activity, but the community may tag you because to most of them only scammers buy accounts. Don Pedro is 1 who dislikes account sales. He is allowed to tag you (I wouldn't. I rarely tag account sellers) if he wishes.

What you can do Listen very closely is

a. Post your btc address
b. Get a refund
c. log out if your account
d. make a new account not in any way related to the 1 you are on now
e. go on with life

This is the easiest way for you to go as having multiple accounts is allowed and not discouraged. Since you are not banned, this is acceptable. If you wish to pursue fact finding on LDL you can at your own leisure.

[Dimitri94]

He wanted to sell me an account called Dimitri94 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417917

@Xavi20 You used my username and claimed you pay for buy this account. But the matter seems strange to me. Because I am actively working in the forum. In this concern, you made a wrong decision by purchasing the account and with out observing anything details you pay that is completely your fault.

[notscam420]

The above address is mine but today someone sent 40 dollars (BTC) using my address.
But surprisingly someone has used my address to destroy my reputation. I know nothing about this.

Can you explain more details? How can someone use your address to ruin your reputation? Has your wallet been emptied, or is it that $40?
It's a strange coincidence, so try to explain in detail, otherwise you will be accused.

It took a while longer to post because I thought about this for a long time and did some investigation. I find a lot of similarities here with topman21 with LDL.  I'm posting some evidence here so you can check it out a bit.


1. Connection Between LDL & Rigon

This is a special kind of oppression towards me.  I strongly object to this.

https://i.ibb.co/rvcDyqT/Screenshot.png
https://i.ibb.co/r4WN928/Screenshot-2.png

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61208955#msg61208955
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422832.msg61338538#msg61338538
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61159958#msg61159958

An amazing coincidence of writing the number two, don't you think?

2. Connection Between topman21 & Rigon

Account Connected :
topman21 [ Legendary Member ]
Rigon [ Sr Member ]

Bitcointalk Username: Rigon
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119419
Post Count: 2235
btc addy: bc1q2aw48zfc00cafh4tr24zwaxku3e2pxetm69hj9
Forum Rank: Sr. Member
Current Merit: 366

https://ninjastic.space/post/61401302

Bitcointalk Username: Rigon
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=119419
Post Count: 2235
btc addy: bc1q2aw48zfc00cafh4tr24zwaxku3e2pxetm69hj9
Forum Rank: Sr. Member
Current Merit: 366

https://ninjastic.space/post/61401335

topman21 apply for WINZ.IO signature campaign with this POA and he Edited post and delete immediately and after 3 minute Rigon apply with same POA post. this two account is completely connected.
A person uses 2 accounts and seems to have mistakenly posted a POA with the wrong account while quickly applying for Signature Campaign , and upon realizing he immediately edited and deleted the previous post. It looks like this person may have more multi accounts

3. Connection Between LDL & topman21 and scam $40 from op

topman21 scam my 40$. I am new on bitcointalk I saw his post on the forum and contacted him on Telegram to get some help.  At one point I was interested in buying a full member account from him.  Our contract was 80$ he blocked me after I paid 40$ earlier.  what can i do now  help me  How can I get my money back?

topman21 profile - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365922
He wanted to sell me an account called Dimitri94 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417917
Btc address : bc1qah37sm35g509yjs00g4ddyjxtvwcfvqc42h4w2ku9p6uzeazssxqldjdau
paid amount : 40$ BTC
txID : bd17673364e3247eb57d8853aa4ff024a0926d7afbd789a1142d99e7a046085d
Blockchain explorer : https://explorer.btc.com/btc/transaction/bd17673364e3247eb57d8853aa4ff024a0926d7afbd789a1142d99e7a046085d

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPCMz.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPQJ2.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPGbc.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPmSP.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wP6sq.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPP9j.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPTXG.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPttD.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPzcf.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPF0Z.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPEM8.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPIJ3.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPspw.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/02/wPkS9.jpeg

4.
Connection Between 8 account including LDL, topman21, Rigon

Another alt of LDL:
LDL [ Member with 185 merits ]
Dubaian [ Member with 117 merits ]

- First Proof-
Dubaian Registered  - June 28, 2022
LDL Registered- October 19, 2022
The two jumped into pumpkin content on October 19
LDL 1st Pumpkin content post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61145233#msg61145233
Dubaian 1st Pumpkin content post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61145508#msg61145508

Dubaian has posted 3 different types of pumpkins for Merit Farming. The same behavior has been observed with LDL he also posted Pumpkin 3 times

Dubaian 3 times Pumpkin post proof
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61198626#msg61198626
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61160243#msg61160243
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61145508#msg61145508

LDL 3 times Pumpkin post proof
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61145233#msg61145233
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61180013#msg61180013
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61203939#msg61203939

-Second proof -
https://ibb.co/F6T2zg4
Look at this picture.  LDL and Dubaian both have the same Bitcoin B cutter style. And both posted the same. posted pumpkin once and something else once. And both placed their pumpkins on brick floors with red stains.

-Third proof -
https://ibb.co/Z8dbc0y
check this image ,is constantly posted in the same section from both accounts. Top post by both LDL & Dubaian on ( gambling
Discussion, Speculation &
Bitcoin Discussion) What a beautiful match

-Fourth proof -
Dubaian send highest merit to shaha98 and LDL which is another alts of Dubaian
-Dubaian send 7 merits in 4 time to shaha98
-Dubaian send 5 merits in 4 time to LDL

-Fifth proof-
Shaha98, Dubaian & LDL post same content for getting merits on this topic - Wall Observer BC/USD - Bitcoin price movement g tracking & discussion there content is Happy Merry Christmas

shaha98 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg61495368#msg61495368
LDL - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg61494176#msg61494176
Dubaian - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg61494417#msg61494417

According to all the clear evidence it is fully proved that Dubaian is another alt of LDL

List of 8 alt account
Shaha98 -Member with 131 merits- (1 negative tagged)
Holiday5 - Jr member with 7 merits- (1 negative tagged)
topman21 - Legendary Member- (2 negative tagged )
Rigon - Sr Member -(no negative tagged yet)
tomos81 -  Hero member -(4 negative taged)
11k -Member with 19 merits- (1 negative tagged)
LDL - Member with 185 merits- (no negative tagged yet)
Dubaian-Member with 117 merits - (Banned)

Note ; I think this whole scam is true. topman21 resorted to scam because that account was already plagued with multiple red tags.  So that account is kind of worthless. so even if you wear a new Red Tag on that account, nothing will happen. but because a person uses multiple accounts like Hughes, he might forget that he used that wallet once in an account called LDL. but here he is trying to get innocent by giving it back because his scandal is exposed. so I think there should be a more fair investigation into this

[nutildah]

All three accounts mentioned by OP have different problems but it would appear OP just made everything up in an attempt to frame these three users. For what reason I don't exactly know.

Of course anyone could pretend to be topman21 on Telegram, or any other user. There's no proof that this is who OP was talking to, if he was even talking to anyone besides himself.

@Xavi20 this is the solution to your problem:

What you can do Listen very closely is

a. Post your btc address
b. Get a refund
c. log out if your account
d. make a new account not in any way related to the 1 you are on now
e. go on with life

I would say no other actions should be taken at this point.


Edit: I didn't see the post directly above mine. It appears to contain some interesting connections. I will go back to sitting on the fence on this one.

[coin-investor]

I agree with you. I will not take the money back now.  Until we get a clear solution to this problem. I have some personal questions

1. Why a person can use LDL wallet address to damage their reputation.  Where $40 is a large amount.  And no scammer wants to miss out.  So I don't think any way a scammer would send $40 to someone else's address.  I want a clear explanation of this. Because if we ignore it as a simple problem, someone else may face a bigger financial loss in the future

2. Why is LDL only excited to return btc without explaining anything here. and he seems to think it's a common thing

You could have established the fact that its topman if you only send him a confirmation message account here, this is the established procedure to check if the one you are talking to on telegram is the right guy on the forum, but unfortunately, you missed it and you failed to establish the connection.

You just take the fund move on and learn from this this is all you want to get your money back aren't you asking for help?

[lovesmayfamilis]

LDL, you see the truth come out against your will. I said you were a scammer from the very beginning of the pumpkin contest, and you really are. You have spawned your alternate accounts by passing merit to your alternate accounts in your local section, and now that you can't handle them, what are you forced to sell?
I know you're lying, but after I caught those early accounts, I know all your new accounts, and I'm waiting for the hour when you're wrong. Shit always pops up.

[LDL]

LDL, you see the truth come out against your will. I said you were a scammer from the very beginning of the pumpkin contest, and you really are. You have spawned your alternate accounts by passing merit to your alternate accounts in your local section, and now that you can't handle them, what are you forced to sell?
I know you're lying, but after I caught those early accounts, I know all your new accounts, and I'm waiting for the hour when you're wrong. Shit always pops up.

You may have looked at me with suspicion from the beginning but you are very experienced and wise so how do you believe I can manage multiple accounts with so much time spent on this account. It is definitely impossible. I always believe in honesty and I never take dishonest path. If I ever take a wrong path, I will surely get the punishment for it.



I have spent over 34 days with this account in just a few months. If it takes me so long to manage one account, how do you believe it is possible for me to run multiple accounts?

[Cuenta Alternativa]

I have spent over 34 days with this account in just a few months. If it takes me so long to manage one account, how do you believe it is possible for me to run multiple accounts?

That doesn't mean anything, because it counts the time even if you are logged in without doing anything on the forum and you have your computer open doing other things. In the last few weeks you have made about 25-28 weekly posts with this account, which is the average that most of us do. That gives you enough time to manage an alt or two if you have a job, or lots of alts if you don't have other jobs. I have a 40 hour a week job and it gives me enough to manage two accounts, counting that I have a few things going on in my life apart from work and my time on the forum.

[LDL]

I have spent over 34 days with this account in just a few months. If it takes me so long to manage one account, how do you believe it is possible for me to run multiple accounts?

That doesn't mean anything, because it counts the time even if you are logged in without doing anything on the forum and you have your computer open doing other things. In the last few weeks you have made about 25-28 weekly posts with this account, which is the average that most of us do. That gives you enough time to manage an alt or two if you have a job, or lots of alts if you don't have other jobs. I have a 40 hour a week job and it gives me enough to manage two accounts, counting that I have a few things going on in my life apart from work and my time on the forum.

Your words are true. But you can trust me and I have never learned to be complacent in my education. If I have ever adopted a dishonest way, God himself will judge it. And please bless me so that I can serve bitcoin forum as honestly as you in future.

[notscam420]

Someone send me BTC by damaging my reputation and I obviously refund him .
But why did he ruin my reporation?  I know nothing about this.

Reputation   do you know what is reputation? who know you on the forum. only some of shit poster on your local board like you know you.You just make some shit post and up your rank quickly by taking merit from your other alt accounts, it's called reputation?

Here hash of transaction: bd17673364e3247eb57d8853aa4ff024a0926d7afbd789a1142d99e7a046085d

Op already post the txID so you don't need to post it again. just explain how did it happen. you are completely connected with topman21. I have already post a valid proof.