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Finding the next pepe is easy just by buying all the memecoins that are circulating on the DEX market or on the CEX market, if you want, then you succeed, but if not it will be difficult for you to do if you only buy a few memecoin. of course if you do what I suggest it will be risky, so buy it with a capital of at least $ 10/memecoin.
When people talk about finding the next meme coin that will become successful they are not really thinking about buying the tens or even hundreds of meme coins that are released each year, what they want is at most to buy just 5 to 10 of those meme coins and get a few of those coins right as they skyrocket after they buy them, however such a thing is basically impossible to do as it is not possible to know beforehand which one of the hundreds of meme coins that look exactly the same will get the success those people are looking for.
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There are all kinds of investors in the crypto market, those investors who have patience always try to think smartly so that they can stay in the market for a long time. Memecoin is something you shouldn't run with all your funds behind. These coins should be played with small amount of funds, so as not to face huge financial losses even if they are scammed. So it's important to look at how you deal with these, from everyone's point of view.
When a Memecoin becomes trending in the crypto world and gets listed on all the major exchanges, it is actually the end game of that coin. Then actually that project then collects dump money and dumps it to late buyers. So investors can be everyone but at the end of the day smart investors can win.
I think it would be the problem, because they can go so high for a while with some potential, but they hit their potential very quickly and then fizzle out. I do not think that it would make sense right now to just buy anything that is listed on a high exchange. Like no meme project listed at Binance would worth a purchase, because that means it reached the highest point it could reach and will not go any higher. I know that some people would love to see it change eventually but that's the case. This is why I disagree that it should be done with small amount, if you ask me it should be done with no amount at all, it should be avoided as much as possible and that way it would be a lot better for the person since they would be avoiding any losses.
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There are all kinds of investors in the crypto market, those investors who have patience always try to think smartly so that they can stay in the market for a long time. Memecoin is something you shouldn't run with all your funds behind. These coins should be played with small amount of funds, so as not to face huge financial losses even if they are scammed. So it's important to look at how you deal with these, from everyone's point of view.
When a Memecoin becomes trending in the crypto world and gets listed on all the major exchanges, it is actually the end game of that coin. Then actually that project then collects dump money and dumps it to late buyers. So investors can be everyone but at the end of the day smart investors can win.
I think it would be the problem, because they can go so high for a while with some potential, but they hit their potential very quickly and then fizzle out. I do not think that it would make sense right now to just buy anything that is listed on a high exchange. Like no meme project listed at Binance would worth a purchase, because that means it reached the highest point it could reach and will not go any higher. I know that some people would love to see it change eventually but that's the case. This is why I disagree that it should be done with small amount, if you ask me it should be done with no amount at all, it should be avoided as much as possible and that way it would be a lot better for the person since they would be avoiding any losses. Investors who lose money in the crypto market do so mostly because of greed. When any project creates a lot of hype in the market, it creates more chances of collapse, but in these cases, investors tend to ignore it. The crypto market creates a lot of opportunities for investors, those who can exploit those opportunities at the right time are successful. And those who are late buyers, because it is listed in big exchange, they keep buying because they think it is a solid project. They always make losses.
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GelatikKembar
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June 16, 2023, 06:02:42 PM |
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Finding the next pepe is easy just by buying all the memecoins that are circulating on the DEX market or on the CEX market, if you want, then you succeed, but if not it will be difficult for you to do if you only buy a few memecoin. of course if you do what I suggest it will be risky, so buy it with a capital of at least $ 10/memecoin.
When people talk about finding the next meme coin that will become successful they are not really thinking about buying the tens or even hundreds of meme coins that are released each year, what they want is at most to buy just 5 to 10 of those meme coins and get a few of those coins right as they skyrocket after they buy them, however such a thing is basically impossible to do as it is not possible to know beforehand which one of the hundreds of meme coins that look exactly the same will get the success those people are looking for. a strategy to buy memecoins with a capital of $10 or $20 can be a good option, because you won't lose much money on memecoin and that strategy has been done by Justin Sun from Tron, I found evidence of that on twitter and many have discussed it.
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June 16, 2023, 10:19:50 PM |
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Finding the next pepe is easy just by buying all the memecoins that are circulating on the DEX market or on the CEX market, if you want, then you succeed, but if not it will be difficult for you to do if you only buy a few memecoin. of course if you do what I suggest it will be risky, so buy it with a capital of at least $ 10/memecoin.
Do you personally think it will work? Let's say you buy majority of meme coin there are in the market, let's say 300+ meme coin multiply it by $10, that would still be a huge amount of capital. Then let's consider how much of a profit out of that $10 you put if one of that meme coin pumps. I don't know how does that work out for you, but I don't think it's "easy". It will never be easy spotting the next big meme coin in the market, it will require you to make an extensive research and reaching out to different communities to know what are the most talked about meme coin today.
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Yes, the community is an important factor as well as strategic partners. In addition the team and the experience of the team members behind the meme coin is also a factor. The philosophy behind the meme coin as well as some history and stories with capability to stir people emotion can be added to the factors. In some instances, some geographical region seem to be inclined to some culture - so some meme coins may have qualities peculiar to some culture. Meme coins or tokens that are being talked about directly or indirectly by influencers, may also have the potential to gain high value. Meme coins with similar qualities to Pepe can help determine the next Pepe.
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The memecoin trend seems to have ended because we rarely see new memecoins going sky rocket, moreover Bitcoin is also bullish again so it's not the time to look for The next PEPE, but we have to look for potential altcoins that can reach hardcap!.
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June 17, 2023, 04:02:20 PM |
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2. Strategic Partnerships:
How is associated with the memecoin? If it's a notable influencer like Elon Musk, it'll moon.
Therefore in researching the next memecoin project to degen in, these factors should be your priority.
What other factors do you think influence memecoin projects?
Indirectly this tells us that memes are still the same as expecting Whales to pump shitcoin right? Yes, there's nothing really wrong with this, but indeed making an excuse as a partnership or community is actually a classic way in which traps like this will always work to get beginners trapped in them. Overall with conditions like this it means that there is no need to look for projects to really make sure that there will be something good in the end for a token like this because we just need to wait for some big influencers to say a new token and join the momentum in it in the hope that it will achieve a profit . with this it can also be ensured that a strong community is just a bullshit to cover up massive fraud for beginners or those who are just joining in for tokens like this.
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The memecoin trend seems to have ended because we rarely see new memecoins going sky rocket, moreover Bitcoin is also bullish again so it's not the time to look for The next PEPE, but we have to look for potential altcoins that can reach hardcap!.
People mostly focus on coins that are on trend regardless of their potential and through that, they are making themselves believe that some meme coins have a good chance of establishing a strong foundation in the future. However, it happened lots of times wherein meme coins have just struck high because of popularity and manipulation but still didn't show any potential of reaching a better achievement in the long run. I agree that it would be better to focus on well-established coins like Bitcoin and other top coins than seek another meme coin which might just turn into a bubble later on. We better focus on coins with higher potential than coins that are just being manipulated and are just on-trend.
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June 18, 2023, 04:36:59 PM |
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Finding the next pepe is easy just by buying all the memecoins that are circulating on the DEX market or on the CEX market, if you want, then you succeed, but if not it will be difficult for you to do if you only buy a few memecoin. of course if you do what I suggest it will be risky, so buy it with a capital of at least $ 10/memecoin.
That doesn't sound like a good idea to me considering there can hundreds of meme coins in DEXs and buying each one even with as low as $10 will cost you a lot of money and what if none of them manage to get the attention of the community and gain any value? Because we all know that meme coins depend on community hype to gain value and without that, they are nothing. In my opinion, investing in meme coins in simply wasting your money, but still if someone wants to try their luck, they should do it on those which have already gained some popularity in the community and has the potential to grow exponentially in near future.
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Don't? Why would you want to know the next PEPE just because it had some great increase once upon a time, lets realize that it was a mistake to risk it, yes "some" people made money but you are seeing online all those who did, you are not hearing about all those who lost money because they got involved due to the hype and they ended up losing a lot of money.
There are millions of people on the world who invested into something because it was hyped at the time and they all lost their money, that's a terrible reason to invest, it would be a lot smarter if you invest into something that makes more sense. Always go for the blue chips and if you could make a profit then you are going to keep at it and not take your money out and love it, because that's how it should always be.
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June 20, 2023, 07:27:56 AM |
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Finding the next pepe is easy just by buying all the memecoins that are circulating on the DEX market or on the CEX market, if you want, then you succeed, but if not it will be difficult for you to do if you only buy a few memecoin. of course if you do what I suggest it will be risky, so buy it with a capital of at least $ 10/memecoin.
When people talk about finding the next meme coin that will become successful they are not really thinking about buying the tens or even hundreds of meme coins that are released each year, what they want is at most to buy just 5 to 10 of those meme coins and get a few of those coins right as they skyrocket after they buy them, however such a thing is basically impossible to do as it is not possible to know beforehand which one of the hundreds of meme coins that look exactly the same will get the success those people are looking for. a strategy to buy memecoins with a capital of $10 or $20 can be a good option, because you won't lose much money on memecoin and that strategy has been done by Justin Sun from Tron, I found evidence of that on twitter and many have discussed it. You can do that if you want, but then when one of the many coins which you bought makes a 100x and you only earn 1k out of the whole process, as you only invested 10 dollars, then you will be tempted to invest way more money the next time around, as you can easily imagine that if you invest 10k and the meme coin in which you invested makes a 100x again then you can potentially earn one million dollars, and it is precisely those kind of calculations which get newbies in problems and makes them lose their money.
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There was no need to find out after PEPE. PEPE became the top rising meme coin again. With the rise of Bitcoin, it became one of the hardest rising altcoins. If I had bought it, it would have definitely fallen. I feel like PEPE is going to make moves like this from time to time. There are so many pepe crowd fans on the internet that the slightest spark causes activity on the trading board. however, timing is very important whales are really easy to trap you. I know because I have experienced this a few times with MEME coins.
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The memecoin trend seems to have ended because we rarely see new memecoins going sky rocket, moreover Bitcoin is also bullish again so it's not the time to look for The next PEPE, but we have to look for potential altcoins that can reach hardcap!.
It's not yet ended. The trends in crypto will always alive no matter how good or bad the trend that is happening with bitcoin. Don't you see the new meme coin called L the meme coin? it has been getting hyped and so many people were getting huge profits from participated in the airdrop. That being said that if the trend is not yet dead but it's hyped again right now.
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The third one is the coin still not BOOMING in any social media, when the coin already hype in social media i think you already too late to join the party. Meme coins is purely hype, without hype the type coin like this has nothing.
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2. Strategic Partnerships:
How is associated with the memecoin? If it's a notable influencer like Elon Musk, it'll moon.
Therefore in researching the next memecoin project to degen in, these factors should be your priority.
What other factors do you think influence memecoin projects?
I think if this pattern is implemented and has a lot of Partnerships I think PEPE will very quickly reach its big goal especially having the influence you mentioned above like the DOGE coin. I think by looking at the number of platforms that have accepted PEPE at this time, I think it's not a major problem anymore. only i upgrade and the function is improved in usage.
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1. Community: It is community that gives speculative value to memecoin. So, the bigger and the cult-like a community is the better. It shows alot of the community will buy and create hype for the project.
This is the major factor that make memecoin to blow, there are two type of community, community that comes together for a passion and believe and work hard for what they believe in , such community are the ones that the memecoin succeeds, there is another type of community with is common in today's crypto space, the community that was formed because of gains, like memecoin promising people of a certain token and many people joins, those kind of memecoin community doesn't have much hype
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July 03, 2023, 03:46:14 PM |
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The third one is the coin still not BOOMING in any social media, when the coin already hype in social media i think you already too late to join the party. Meme coins is purely hype, without hype the type coin like this has nothing.
That's why many people are hesitant to invest in meme coins and for a short term it is acceptable actually, the risk is big and there is a safer option which is to invest in Bitcoin or other top coins, there are many examples of meme coins that end up being nothing.
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1. Community: It is community that gives speculative value to memecoin. So, the bigger and the cult-like a community is the better. It shows alot of the community will buy and create hype for the project.
This is the major factor that make memecoin to blow, there are two type of community, community that comes together for a passion and believe and work hard for what they believe in , such community are the ones that the memecoin succeeds, there is another type of community with is common in today's crypto space, the community that was formed because of gains, like memecoin promising people of a certain token and many people joins, those kind of memecoin community doesn't have much hype But the formation of a solid community is when they get a big enough prize and or have someone who can move and raise the project itself, and that requires influencers who are quite well-known in the economic world, if you want to move quickly, if you have done that, build a community. and hype will run quickly and have a fairly long term if you already have a well-known influencer, maybe more precisely it is easier to spread hope so that people make purchases. The third one is the coin still not BOOMING in any social media, when the coin already hype in social media i think you already too late to join the party. Meme coins is purely hype, without hype the type coin like this has nothing.
That's why many people are hesitant to invest in meme coins and for a short term it is acceptable actually, the risk is big and there is a safer option which is to invest in Bitcoin or other top coins, there are many examples of meme coins that end up being nothing. It is not easy to find a coin meme project that has the potential to develop rapidly like Pepe, I also plunged in it when it was hype and utilized the increase, the risks were considered 95% of loss of money when following the initial purchases of the project that was not yet well known. Taking the top 10 is better than choosing a new project, but you must really pay attention to it and continue to keep up with its development, if it is not possible to have the same fate as Terraluna.
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July 05, 2023, 05:47:59 AM |
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The third one is the coin still not BOOMING in any social media, when the coin already hype in social media i think you already too late to join the party. Meme coins is purely hype, without hype the type coin like this has nothing.
That's why many people are hesitant to invest in meme coins and for a short term it is acceptable actually, the risk is big and there is a safer option which is to invest in Bitcoin or other top coins, there are many examples of meme coins that end up being nothing. Everyone has seen the reality so far about meme coins, and there has been a lot of proof that meme coins are big because of the hype. so it's true that at this time many are reluctant to want to invest in the long term for meme coin, because no one can guarantee that it will continue to be sustainable and the possibility of disappearing from the exchange is more likely to occur. Actually there are still many altcoins to choose from and why insist on meme coins, if you really want to try not for the long term, of course we also don't close our eyes that currently Coin Pepe is indeed on the rise, but once again it's not a guarantee.
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