Lending board liar - Timelord2067

[HedgeFx]

No, I'm not stubborn. I just feel very offended and let the anger take over.

I understood and I followed your advice: I changed the color of trust.

I think he's a stubborn person and won't listen to other users' opinion. When someone make a mistake, I can still forgive him because it might his first time react to this situation. But if he still stand with his opinion when everyone already told him, the problem is his behavior, not his ignorance.

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[CYBER_COWBOY]

Nice to see that you are the bigger man here HedgeFx and changed color of the feedback. Don´t let Timelord get under your skin, I think that´s his goal and he´s not worth it.
This is good for the future of the trust system.

[LoyceV]

I just feel very offended and let the anger take over.

I'm offended by people who say they're offended! Being offended is a choice. Why torture yourself?

[GazetaBitcoin]

HedgeFx, please make sure you follow LV's guide for correct use of Marketplace Trust system. This is not a system for retaliatory feedbacks. It should be used for financial deals when giving positive and negative ratings. When you have to share anything else you can use a neutral feedback.

In case you simply do or don't trust someone's judgement you can add that person to your trust list or remove the user from your trust list.

Be aware that trust lists and Marketplace Trust system are two different mechanisms and you properly understand them if you want to use them.

Scammer flags are another mechanism, different than the 2 ones mentioned above and you should also make sure you understand this system prior using it. For more information about how Flag system works please follow this thread.

In case you'll use these 3 mechanisms incorrectly you'll only risk to look as ridiculous as the baboon looks. And I don't think you want that, do you?

For example, regarding this:

I understood and I followed your advice: I changed the color of trust.

You should make sure that you changed the type of your feedback not because LV asked you to, but because you actually understood how the system works. And, if you actually understood all these, then besides changing your previous feedback from negative to neutral you should also modify these ones:



1. Your flag against TimeLord is incorrect, as he did not scam anybody. Furthermore, the flag was already opposed by multiple DT users.

2. The second highlighted feedback from the picture is another example that you misused Marketplace Trust system. You gave a negative feedback to a spammer. The spammer is spamming, not scamming. Therefore, since there is no financial loss, that feedback should be a neutral one, not negative.


As LV already stated, the community sided with you and undid the damage. I personally also involved in this conflict, after fillippone brought it to my attention, and I exposed (again) TimeLord's idiocies, hypocrisy and misuse of forum mechanisms. As you probably observed, he has already about 8 DT exclusions or so.

You should make sure you are not making same mistakes he did. If you'll do it, you'll looks like a clown, just like he does.

I hope this will help you understand that you really need to study well Marketplace Trust, Flags and Trust list systems, in order to use them wisely and correctly.

[LoyceV]

1. Your flag against TimeLord is incorrect, as he did not scam anybody. Furthermore, the flag was already opposed by multiple DT users. You should delete that feedback mentioning the flag, as it is irrelevant.

That's not possible. All he can do is withdraw it, which he did.

[GazetaBitcoin]

That's not possible. All he can do is withdraw it, which he did.

You are right! I edited my earlier post, deleting the quoted part.

[HedgeFx]

Thank you Gazeta for your suggestion,

I am a very emotional person, passionate like most of those who live on the Mediterranean coasts. Yes, i understand how trust works, and from my last mishap I have learned further things.

I changed trust on PS34 (using more appropriate words ) . My apologies  to him and to all people i could have offended for my inappropriate words. My judgment of his actions remains negative.

About flags, as Loycev said, the only thing i can do is withdraw it. And it was done. I made a mistake opening it, due to my inexperience.

HedgeFx, please make sure you follow LV's guide for correct use of Marketplace Trust system. This is not a system for retaliatory feedbacks. It should be used for financial deals when giving positive and negative ratings. When you have to share anything else you can use a neutral feedback.

In case you simply do or don't trust someone's judgement you can add that person to your trust list or remove the user from your trust list.

Be aware that trust lists and Marketplace Trust system are two different mechanisms and you properly understand them if you want to use them.

Scammer flags are another mechanism, different than the 2 ones mentioned above and you should also make sure you understand this system prior using it. For more information about how Flag system works please follow this thread.

In case you'll use these 3 mechanisms incorrectly you'll only risk to look as ridiculous as the baboon looks. And I don't think you want that, do you?

For example, regarding this:

I understood and I followed your advice: I changed the color of trust.

You should make sure that you changed the type of your feedback not because LV asked you to, but because you actually understood how the system works. And, if you actually understood all these, then besides changing your previous feedback from negative to neutral you should also modify these ones:



1. Your flag against TimeLord is incorrect, as he did not scam anybody. Furthermore, the flag was already opposed by multiple DT users. You should delete that feedback mentioning the flag, as it is irrelevant.

2. The second highlighted feedback from the picture is another example that you misused Marketplace Trust system. You gave a negative feedback to a spammer. The spammer is spamming, not scamming. Therefore, since there is no financial loss, that feedback should be a neutral one, not negative.


As LV already stated, the community sided with you and undid the damage. I personally also involved in this conflict, after fillippone brought it to my attention, and I exposed (again) TimeLord's idiocies, hypocrisy and misuse of forum mechanisms. As you probably observed, he has already about 8 DT exclusions or so.

You should make sure you are not making same mistakes he did. If you'll do it, you'll looks like a clown, just like he does.

I hope this will help you understand that you really need to study well Marketplace Trust, Flags and Trust list systems, in order to use them wisely and correctly.

[examplens]

I am a very emotional person, passionate like most of those who live on the Mediterranean coasts. Yes, i understand how trust works, and from my last mishap I have learned further things.

I hope you have learned that there is no place for emotions when you are in a discussion with an unknown person on the Internet. Emotions most often influence the making of wrong decisions.

I changed trust on PS34 (using more appropriate words ) . My apologies  to him and to all people i could have offended for my inappropriate words. My judgment of his actions remains negative.

And this negative tag is in response to the negative feedback that ps34 left for you. It can also be interpreted as some kind of revenge, which is not a proper use of the trust system. Maybe you can say that it's not a big deal, we all know about ps34 and there are already several similar tags, but you don't need to react to every feedback like that.

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Did you notice that HedgeFx left a negative tag to member @N30W_414 for promoting Ponzi, a month before the Timelord accused him of investing in a Ponzi scheme?  What kind of Pantomime of truth is involved in TL analysis?

N30W_414

2023-04-08

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Promote MLM , Ponzi and HYPS .

[HedgeFx]

You are missing one important thing: Timelord accused me of investing in ponzi but I do not invest and promote any ponzi.
Ponzi and MLM are scam. I also reported the user to moderator (this guy made lot of post that was deleted by moderator after my report: https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3546817).


Did you notice that HedgeFx left a negative tag to member @N30W_414 for promoting Ponzi, a month before the Timelord accused him of investing in a Ponzi scheme?   What kind of Pantomime of truth is involved in TL analysis?

N30W_414

2023-04-08

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Promote MLM , Ponzi and HYPS .

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[GazetaBitcoin]

Thank you Gazeta for your suggestion

Welcome

Yes, i understand how trust works, and from my last mishap I have learned further things.

I am glad to hear that! This is a good start!

I changed trust on PS34 (using more appropriate words )

This was a wise decision. Good job!

P.S.: in the future please do not quote the entire post made by someone, especially if it's a long post. Either quote line by line and reply below the text you quoted or select to quote only the relevant part

Did you notice that HedgeFx left a negative tag to member @N30W_414 for promoting Ponzi, a month before the Timelord accused him of investing in a Ponzi scheme?   What kind of Pantomime of truth is involved in TL analysis?

There's a slight difference, dear examplens, between the situation you pointed out and the situation created recently by TimeLord.

First of all, HedgeFx gave a negative feedback to a Ponzi promoter. That user could make people lose money with that Ponzi scheme. For helping users not fall in such traps, marboroza opened that thread and he also created flags for each Ponzi promoter, together with giving those users negative feedbacks. Such as this case or this case. And, as far as I see, you also supported those flags so you considered them relevant (same as I do). So there should be no problem for the fact that HedgeFx gave that feedback toa Ponzi promoter.

On the other side, TimeLord accused (wrongfully) accused HedgeFx for investing in Ponzi schemes, not for promoting them. So while promoting such a scheme may lead to financial prejudices to a lot of people, investing in a Ponzi scheme is up to anyone willing to risk his money. At least, this is how I see things. If someone is dumb enough to put his money in a Ponzi, so be it -- it's his money, not mine. That person does not do any harm to others excepting him, since he is only investing in a Ponzi scheme and not promoting it.

Furthermore, HedgeFx did not even do that, as TimeLord's accusations were hallucinations determined by the fact that he did not take his pills for a week. So even if the accusations were true, HedgeFx could not harm anyone by investing his money in a Ponzi scheme; he could only harm himself. But he did not promote a Ponzi. Anyway, he did not even invest in a Ponzi.

So I think the situations are very different...

P.S.: in case someone is curious, I don't know HedgeFx. This is first time I interact with him and I only did it after fillippone told me about his situation. Probably if it wasn't fillippone I would have missed all the circus done once more by TimeLord (and I would have been very upset if that happened, lol; but, fortunately, I didn't miss the clown show he made again ).

[examplens]

There's a slight difference, dear examplens, between the situation you pointed out and the situation created recently by TimeLord.

I probably didn't express myself in the best way.
I just wanted to point out the holes in the Timelord2067 research. How realistic is it that someone who is aware (judging by the quoted HedgeFx feedback, he certainly is) of the bad sides of the Ponzi business, at the same time takes a loan to invest in another Ponzi? If he had at least thought a little before he got involved in this whole circus...

An additional thing is that it is completely wrong to tag someone for the reason where he spent borrowed money, without even researching the accuracy of this insinuation.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I probably didn't express myself in the best way.
I just wanted to point out the holes in the Timelord2067 research.

Oh, I understand now

If he had at least thought a little before he got involved in this whole circus...

He probably thought about it for a little, but the lack of medicines clouded (again) his judgement. So all he could think about was something like "Oh boy, oh boy, I escaped today again from the mental hospital! Let's get online on the forum quickly and let's see what low rank user I can harass   " -- or, at least, this is what I believe he thought about in that day.

[HedgeFx]

He is a liar and he continues to persevere in his errors and falsehoods

Luckily I saved and quoted in this post all the lies he wrote.

He continues to accuse without any evidence. He changed the charges against me, but still red and i'm still a scammer on his opinion

Freedom of expression is a right for everyone, but slandering a person is not part of freedom of expression.

Dear Timelord, is so hard to admit, "Sorry I made a mistake"

[LoyceV]

Lol:

"an exchange with what appears to be an inbuilt mixer for inbound/outbound transactions"

Every exchange, casino and bank (!!) is a "mixer" to the outside world. Not all information has to be public.

[Poker Player]

Lol:

"an exchange with what appears to be an inbuilt mixer for inbound/outbound transactions"

Every exchange, casino and bank (!!) is a "mixer" to the outside world. Not all information has to be public.

 

I don't have much technical knowledge, but even I know that. With a basic knowledge of how transactions work you know that casinos and exchanges consolidate inputs in certain addresses and when making withdrawal payments they do them from those addresses, so for an external observer those coins are mixed, there is no need to "build in" anything.

[alterra57]

Apparently, after having my posts ignored and deleted I did not care to shed some light on my part. OKX, one of the largest exchanges has now an in-built mixer. Makes you wonder, how many users did this manchild falsely accuse in the past.

[examplens]

He continues to accuse without any evidence. He changed the charges against me, but still red and i'm still a scammer on his opinion

He deleted one inappropriate negative feedback, only to leave another also inappropriate. 

Looking further accuracy of feedback, I would say that GazetaBitcoin also got the wrong label (even only neutral). Following the given reference, I'm not sure where there is a racial insult here.
btw. what race are baboons?

Timelord2067

2023-06-09

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RACIST

Still, if others (both DT1 and DT2) can distrust him the baboon will remain even more without power!

To be clear, I'm not condoning any kind of insult.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Looking further accuracy of feedback, I would say that GazetaBitcoin also got the wrong label (even only neutral). Following the given reference, I'm not sure where there is a racial insult here.
btw. what race are baboons?

Timelord2067

2023-06-09

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RACIST

Lol!

To be clear, I'm not condoning any kind of insult.

As I already explained, after being called "Butt Hurt^TM", "stuffed pig" or "brain dead" by this village idiot, I am not looking for a civilized discussion with him.

Coming back to the second imbecile feedback he gave me, if I remember well, the primates from the movie Planet of the Apes did not like at all to be called monkeys. They preferred to be called apes. Maybe the moron's problem is that I said monkey instead of ape?

At same time it's very interesting to observe that, in the reference link he posted, he was not disturbed at all for being called "old perv" (so he practically admitted that, lol), but calling him "baboon" was the problem.

Oh well, fortunately less and less DT users still include this idiot in their Trust lists and I believe soon some more of them will exclude him. Perhaps Stalker22, YOSHIE, Igebotz, KTChampions, TwitchySeal and LFC_Bitcoin will see the post and think again about their inclusions.

[LoyceV]

Talk about backfiring:

Trust list for: Timelord2067 (Trust: +14 / =11 / -0) (1081 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2023-06-10_Sat_05.07h)
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Timelord2067's judgement is Trusted by:
12. Removed minerjones (Trust: +128 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 2223 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Removed bitbollo (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 2039 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. Removed DireWolfM14 (Trust: +17 / =1 / -0) (3784 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. Removed FatFork (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 2037 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Timelord2067's judgement is Distrusted by:
6. NEW babo (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 2617 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. NEW jimmyhate (Trust: awaiting update) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. NEW examplens (Trust: +4 / =5 / -0) (DT1! (21) 1347 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. NEW yahoo62278 (Trust: +34 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (28) 3098 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. NEW LoyceV (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (60) 13331 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. NEW giammangiato (Trust: neutral) (966 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. NEW John Abraham (Trust: neutral) (538 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
68. NEW Plaguedeath (Trust: neutral) (398 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
74. NEW alterra57 (Trust: neutral) (50 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
75. NEW CYBER_COWBOY (Trust: neutral) (14 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Talk about backfiring

That was also first thing I had in mind to do in the morning, but you were faster than me

I found very interesting the fact that, among the 14 users which distrusted him or removed him from their Trust lists, there was also a user from 2013 which did that and which has only 9 posts: jimmyhate. Apparently TimeLord stirred a lot of shit with his last circus that he even determined users with no influence over DT to exclude him.

So I'll just quote him:

Thank you for being brain dead. [...]

Well done Troll - Well done.