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June 23, 2023, 11:06:49 PM
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I don't have such an urge. I'll have my limits, just because trading gonna be banned and cryptocurrencies on gambling to be legalized my gambling activity won't differ. In all time period we should have our limits, through which we'll be able to enjoy the goodness. We should not have the urge to gambling, because that's kind of addiction. Even with trade it isn't a big thing, because losing won't cause you big loss, but gambling could finish the entire funds in the wallet.

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June 23, 2023, 11:13:20 PM
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I have relatives in every country, if they can play then I ask them to gamble for me effectively.   I dont see the point in these absolute laws when people can travel though I realize some countries you are not allowed to go on holiday so maybe such reasoning is applicable in that scenario.  Its mostly about tax and thats a failure because its far better to allow gambling and just take some cut towards taxation rather then attempt to ban or only allow the government lotto.

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June 24, 2023, 05:29:35 AM
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I don't have such an urge. I'll have my limits, just because trading gonna be banned and cryptocurrencies on gambling to be legalized my gambling activity won't differ. In all time period we should have our limits, through which we'll be able to enjoy the goodness. We should not have the urge to gambling, because that's kind of addiction. Even with trade it isn't a big thing, because losing won't cause you big loss, but gambling could finish the entire funds in the wallet.
Is it true that what you mean is the betting limit? if true, you have a positive mindset to respond to this case if it occurs. because basically gambling is only for betting and having fun without any coercion and crypto trading is only for additional profit and if BTC is banned in our country surely we will not be affected having to make a profit in gambling like you said. gambling will forever be just a place for fun and if BTC is also banned in my country there may still be other alternatives to be able to gamble responsibly for entertainment purposes only like using fiat in local gambling.

I really appreciate someone who has a mindset like you who is wise in responding to a problem.

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June 24, 2023, 06:03:53 AM
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while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.
The decision for what to do with the coins after crypto trading has been banned, either to gamble with it to try to get more or just withdraw and keep will be determined by my ability in gambling. Since I know that I am not a good gambler, and do not have any winning certainty, deciding to want to still go ahead to gamble means I just want to waste that money. My desire is to make more money from what I have, gambling is not the only way to achieve this, so I will withdraw the money and find other ways to multiply the money, or just decide to keep holding the Bitcoins until they increase and my country becomes less against Bitcoins.
At that point your only option may be to hold your coins, after all if trading bitcoin is forbidden where you live this also includes P2P transactions, so there is not much that a person can do in that scenario, you either hold your coins or you move to a country in which you can buy and sell bitcoin, however such an extreme move would only make sense if you have a lot of bitcoin, now you could also decide to go against the law and hope to not get caught, but by doing this you will be taking a massive risk.
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June 24, 2023, 06:20:28 AM
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I have relatives in every country, if they can play then I ask them to gamble for me effectively.   I dont see the point in these absolute laws when people can travel though I realize some countries you are not allowed to go on holiday so maybe such reasoning is applicable in that scenario.  Its mostly about tax and thats a failure because its far better to allow gambling and just take some cut towards taxation rather then attempt to ban or only allow the government lotto.
Yes, including my country, maybe there are several countries that prohibit bitcoin like in my country 5 years ago, maybe because they haven't set taxes, so in my country, I have given a little freedom now to bitcoin holders and consider bitcoin as a commodity asset, so there are also many crypto exchanges in my country is taxed for the government, that's why it's just a matter of taxes it's not really prohibited because something that is prohibited as long as taxes and income for the country are there, everything will be safe.

After all, banning doesn't necessarily mean that people will follow government rules, while things that are prohibited actually make people even more happy to hide and play behind the scenes, currently in my country bitcoin holders feel safe and comfortable, but gambling casinos in my country are still banned whereas before it's perfectly legal but maybe not out of the question of tax i think it might benefit the state if casinos were taxed i hope it becomes legal one day.  Cheesy

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June 24, 2023, 07:09:22 AM
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while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.
I'm not that good in gambling but I think I wouldn't risk it as well just because it is legal. I'd rather sell it on someone online whose country isn't illegalized crypto trading than risk it for gamble which in fact may just loss it. I think waiting will be good if you have other sources of income but if you want the money badly then selling it will be a good idea.
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June 24, 2023, 07:21:13 AM
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Never ever. Use third-party applications only with how they are created. Either to exchange our cryptocurrencies for our own currency or just send it to another crypto user in speed.

Never go against the government because there's no such thing as a secret to them, especially to those who own loads of amount of Bitcoin. They will not keep themselves silent and allow it to be non-taxable. Regarding gambling, I would not mind just quitting if ever the government bans Bitcoin. But, if there are available cryptocurrencies, why not?
The perk of using this is because of the cheap way to bet. You can play as long as you like with just satoshis of bets and it doesn't matter to the gambling sites as long as you are losing. Grin
Banning the gambling site itself though is non-negotiable, better find a new hobby.
Yes, we can't go against the government because the government has resources that we don't know about and they can find us even if we hide. The government wants to get taxes from its citizens, so it seems to tighten its rules to make them obey the law. And it's better for us to follow the regulations ourselves while waiting for developments and updates from the government so we won't get into trouble. Stop gambling or stop trading for a while doesn't matter. Rather than we are going to get in trouble, maybe the government wants to do something about crypto and maybe the reform will allow citizens to use crypto freely.

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June 24, 2023, 11:29:50 AM
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The decision for what to do with the coins after crypto trading has been banned, either to gamble with it to try to get more or just withdraw and keep will be determined by my ability in gambling. Since I know that I am not a good gambler, and do not have any winning certainty, deciding to want to still go ahead to gamble means I just want to waste that money. My desire is to make more money from what I have, gambling is not the only way to achieve this, so I will withdraw the money and find other ways to multiply the money, or just decide to keep holding the Bitcoins until they increase and my country becomes less against Bitcoins.

There's no such thing as a good gambler Grin Mabe with the exception of those who engage in gambling activities only when they spot an opportunity when the advantage is on their side (but those are rare).
Gambling by definition is a way of losing money, not a way of accumulation, so the OP's question is pretty daft.
Totally just common sense and its true that this question is having no sense, why would you play if casino in your county would be planning to be banned? specially on bitcoin? Wont be surprising

if they would really be remaining those fiat based which is something that government would really be allowing in default. In personal point of view on which it would really be that normal that you

would really be avoiding on playing but if you are really that eager on playing gambling using up crypto then you could always use up some VPN which it could make things possible but to keep in mind that you are really that putting your risks when it comes to consequences but even though this stuff is prohibited but due to likeness on playing then you wouldnt bother nor care at all.
Your interpretation, as I understand it, implies that the allure of gambling and crypto might lead folks to dodge bans via VPNs. It's a fascinating interplay of human curiosity, risk tolerance, and the enchantment of the crypto realm. However, such a view appears to bypass the essence of crypto – decentralization and liberty, which demand accountability and adherence to legal rules. Cryptos offer us a revolutionary medium to change economic dynamics but should not be a reason to cross legal lines.

Additionally, remember that laws, albeit sometimes slower than tech, eventually adapt. Ignoring these constraints might lead to short-term thrill but risk staining crypto's reputation, delaying its mass acceptance. Legal engagements would better support the endurance of the crypto world.

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while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.
To accumulate? I would not think of that because in gambling, there's no assurance that we will win. Instead, I would just trade it for fiat to ensure I will get my money. I would not risk waiting for the time it will be banned, just to keep it safe. I would withdraw and probably invest the funds in other stocks or online investments, or even start my own business.

Gambling and investing should be different. If we gamble, we can become too desperate and might easily accept the loss and our bitcoin will be gone for nothing.

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while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.

Gambling is very risky which means the possibility of losing my funds is high. I don't think I will even consider increasing my gambling budget because my income did not increase. Using VPN and other means might be illegal so the best option will be to stop trading for the time being and focus on other investment areas or become a long-term hodler. I will hodl and keep monitoring my investment until I get to my selling price. I don't mind moving to another country to do my Bitcoin transaction and return to my country. Bitcoin is a lifetime investment, so even if you decide to keep your coins until the government lifts the ban, that's still okay because Bitcoin is gradually becoming a globally accepted currency. But channeling my trading funds to gambling is unacceptable.

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June 24, 2023, 05:31:43 PM
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I don't have such an urge. I'll have my limits, just because trading gonna be banned and cryptocurrencies on gambling to be legalized my gambling activity won't differ. In all time period we should have our limits, through which we'll be able to enjoy the goodness. We should not have the urge to gambling, because that's kind of addiction. Even with trade it isn't a big thing, because losing won't cause you big loss, but gambling could finish the entire funds in the wallet.
I don’t even see the correlation that you guys are trying to paint here. It doesn’t make sense how these two could be mashed in the same conversation when these are two completely different schools of thought that caters to different user bases. You could gamble even if bitcoin’s legalized in your country. And if you could still gamble using crypto on your country I’ll bet my bottom dollar you’d still be able to trade even amidst the restriction that your country will impose upon you

It’s absurd to think you guys are really thinking of gambling as a substitute income venture for trading. Which couldn’t be any father from the truth.


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June 24, 2023, 07:06:15 PM
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while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.
To accumulate? I would not think of that because in gambling, there's no assurance that we will win. Instead, I would just trade it for fiat to ensure I will get my money. I would not risk waiting for the time it will be banned, just to keep it safe. I would withdraw and probably invest the funds in other stocks or online investments, or even start my own business.

Gambling and investing should be different. If we gamble, we can become too desperate and might easily accept the loss and our bitcoin will be gone for nothing.
I agree, I mean if you keep gambling then when it gets banned it is going to be a bit of a trouble and I would not really be happy about that. I think it is a lot better if we could just ignore all that and instead focus on what we could do with it. I know that a lot of people would gamble because that's what they do but that's a wrong move and they should just tur nit into fiat.

I can see why people may want to keep it in crypto as well, like just don't turn that into fiat, but definitely not gambling. It is quite obvious that we are going to end up with a bad result when the time comes and it shouldn't really be easy choice. Just forget about gambling, and instead do what you would do if there was no ban, or just cash it out to fiat if you want to.

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June 24, 2023, 07:46:17 PM
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I don't have such an urge. I'll have my limits, just because trading gonna be banned and cryptocurrencies on gambling to be legalized my gambling activity won't differ. In all time period we should have our limits, through which we'll be able to enjoy the goodness. We should not have the urge to gambling, because that's kind of addiction. Even with trade it isn't a big thing, because losing won't cause you big loss, but gambling could finish the entire funds in the wallet.
I don’t even see the correlation that you guys are trying to paint here. It doesn’t make sense how these two could be mashed in the same conversation when these are two completely different schools of thought that caters to different user bases. You could gamble even if bitcoin’s legalized in your country. And if you could still gamble using crypto on your country I’ll bet my bottom dollar you’d still be able to trade even amidst the restriction that your country will impose upon you

It’s absurd to think you guys are really thinking of gambling as a substitute income venture for trading. Which couldn’t be any father from the truth.



Of course both trading and gambling would still be possible after a ban and China is a great example of this. They banned trading, then mining and both trading and mining were happening in China despite the ban. The only thing you weren't able to do is exchange btc for fiat but you were able to do it using cash, outside the law.

I'd never obey the law that is stupid and made to oppress people. I wouldn't stop using bitcoin for any reason and laws made by my government would never stop me from owning it. It's not up to my government to decide what I can and cannot hold, as long as this isn't something that can be dangerous to people around me. I'd understand if they did not want me to hold radioactive or explosive stuff, but virtual goods? Come on, this is stupid, I would never agree to this.

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June 25, 2023, 02:51:57 PM
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while your country plans to ban crypto trading but online gambling legal, you'll gonna to decide what to do with coins.  would you go play your coins to accumulate or just withdraw and wait for the government to change stance?  no other option.
To accumulate? I would not think of that because in gambling, there's no assurance that we will win. Instead, I would just trade it for fiat to ensure I will get my money. I would not risk waiting for the time it will be banned, just to keep it safe. I would withdraw and probably invest the funds in other stocks or online investments, or even start my own business.

Gambling and investing should be different. If we gamble, we can become too desperate and might easily accept the loss and our bitcoin will be gone for nothing.

Yes, it is different. But the asset you are playing for and trying to win is not being valued by the government you're in. That is the case with OP's post. I would say that if you have that faith that the coin you are holding will last longer than the time horizon of your country banning the cryptocurrency, then it will be worth it. If you don't have that, then better to cash out all the funds that you have invested in then have a lesser exposure bot in crypto gambling and crypto alone.

It will be rewarding if you keep it. Because crypto is universal. You can use it anywhere. That if you have a chance to get on another country, then you can use it.

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Your remark seems to embody a recurring fallacy about the supposed invisibility of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. While Bitcoin transactions offer somewhat greater discretion compared to traditional financial systems, it's a distortion to deem them fully untraceable. It's also essential to respect the law's authority. Evading regulatory oversight is not only ethically unsettled but could invite severe legal penalties. Believing in eternal cover-up for such actions, in the advancing digital age, is illusory. Therefore, it's prudent to stay within the legal bounds when using cryptocurrencies, instead of attempting to bypass regulations. This path is ultimately more enduring and safe.
Or he can choose not to gamble even though his government allows gambling. Yes, I agree not to go against government regulations because we can get into trouble or punishment from the government. In the meantime, it's better for us to remain silent and say nothing if we still own crypto to others. It is necessary to be careful when storing crypto, especially now that many are starting to target it. But the important thing is not to store it in third parties because we can't keep track of it later.
Never ever. Use third-party applications only with how they are created. Either to exchange our cryptocurrencies for our own currency or just send it to another crypto user in speed.

Never go against the government because there's no such thing as a secret to them, especially to those who own loads of amount of Bitcoin. They will not keep themselves silent and allow it to be non-taxable. Regarding gambling, I would not mind just quitting if ever the government bans Bitcoin. But, if there are available cryptocurrencies, why not?
The perk of using this is because of the cheap way to bet. You can play as long as you like with just satoshis of bets and it doesn't matter to the gambling sites as long as you are losing. Grin
Banning the gambling site itself though is non-negotiable, better find a new hobby.
I stand by your view on mindful usage of third-party apps and being tax-savvy with Bitcoin. Governments have their methods, and outsmarting the system is fool's gold. Yet, I question your stance on the gambling bit. Sure, Bitcoin's low-stakes appeal is enticing, but let's flip the coin. How about the risk of addiction it carries? Is the fleeting thrill worth the potential fallout?

As for seeking another pastime if Bitcoin gambling gets the boot, brilliant remedy indeed. Maybe this ban could be a wake-up call, redirecting our vigor towards less hazardous and more rewarding endeavors.

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June 28, 2023, 05:44:26 AM
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Of course both trading and gambling would still be possible after a ban and China is a great example of this. They banned trading, then mining and both trading and mining were happening in China despite the ban. The only thing you weren't able to do is exchange btc for fiat but you were able to do it using cash, outside the law.

I'd never obey the law that is stupid and made to oppress people. I wouldn't stop using bitcoin for any reason and laws made by my government would never stop me from owning it. It's not up to my government to decide what I can and cannot hold, as long as this isn't something that can be dangerous to people around me. I'd understand if they did not want me to hold radioactive or explosive stuff, but virtual goods? Come on, this is stupid, I would never agree to this.
Each person is free to do what they want as long as they are willing to accept the consequences of their actions, however assuming that where you live bitcoin was banned then you need to take some measures to protect yourself, like never revealing that you are holding your bitcoin even prior to such ban, otherwise your local government will know about your involvement with bitcoin and they may put some unwanted attention to you and caught you breaking the law.
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July 10, 2023, 05:41:12 AM
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As for seeking another pastime if Bitcoin gambling gets the boot, brilliant remedy indeed. Maybe this ban could be a wake-up call, redirecting our vigor towards less hazardous and more rewarding endeavors.
An addicted gambler will not be having a single second thought if their country bans bitcoin or gambling they will go for a different route to access their site and gamble again. These are just things to write and eye wash in front of the population if done but it does not stop gambling at all. That can happen only if the gambler decides to stop gambling themselves.

These are hazardous, no doubt, but the confidence of a gambler is difficult to control.

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July 10, 2023, 05:54:07 AM
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As for seeking another pastime if Bitcoin gambling gets the boot, brilliant remedy indeed. Maybe this ban could be a wake-up call, redirecting our vigor towards less hazardous and more rewarding endeavors.
An addicted gambler will not be having a single second thought if their country bans bitcoin or gambling they will go for a different route to access their site and gamble again. These are just things to write and eye wash in front of the population if done but it does not stop gambling at all. That can happen only if the gambler decides to stop gambling themselves.

These are hazardous, no doubt, but the confidence of a gambler is difficult to control.
It's no wonder that gamblers will have many ways to keep gambling even though there is a ban on the use of Bitcoin by the government and a gambler who is also a crypto user has sufficient technological intelligence so they can do anything.
Even though they have a big risk of being punished if they get caught, a gambling addict doesn't care about that kind of thing as long as they can do what they want to gamble.

But if we play it safe, I'm sure the government will never be able to track the gambling activities that are being carried out.

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July 10, 2023, 06:10:01 AM
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I don't have such an urge. I'll have my limits, just because trading gonna be banned and cryptocurrencies on gambling to be legalized my gambling activity won't differ.
Some people might end up diverting all their money into gambling, just because they believe that's the last thing which they will do is start gambling with it, they wont maintain the way they have been gambling before, and gambling is really risky, your chances of losing money is really high.

If cryptocurrency is ban in my country, i will rather stop trading and send all my coins to a non custodial wallet for future purpose, maybe when they will unban bitcoin, bitcoin will have being really massive, its better than gambling with it because i know with time i might end up losing everything in gambling.

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July 10, 2023, 06:14:42 AM
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Why would anyone play more on a Bitcoin casino when the law of the land is planning to ban Bitcoin? In such a situation, it is better to keep holding them in a non-custodial wallet until the government changes the decision or you find another way to continue gambling. I do not agree with going against the law as if caught it will cause serious repercussions to you and your family. If you still want to gamble then use local fiat on an online casino to feed your addiction. I would not want to take in stupid risk and destroy my present, I will always find alternate ways to continue with what I was doing before the ban.

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