Established members and newbies

[Accardo]

being an established member is different from being a high ranked member. Established members are well known members and we've got some snr members in that category and legendary members who are not in that category. Yes established members get more merits because their posts are too informative to the members of this forum, which made them become established. To get merited, a post must in a way solve some problems for members of this forum. As a newbie, always spend time to research the cryptocurrency market and come up with question that you don't understand. Creating a thread here will help you learn from different members and you may not forget that topic easily when asked to answer such question. Getting merited depends on the people who read the content and the way they felt about the content you shared. Even a one line post can get merited, according to how quality it is to the readers.  It's a gradual process to rank in the forum and every merit counts. The more you expect to get merited, more disappointed you may become. Just share your thoughts on things, which is not clear to you, be consistent, the merits will roll to your account.

[Obari]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

I personally don't think  rank is a considerable factor when sending out merits because most times, you might make quality  posts but your audience  might not have some sendable merits to give out at the time and most times it is more easier to send merits to reputable  accounts in order for us to get favout from them and that is natural in life's general  circumstances.

You shouldn't be bothered what rank kts been merited or not bit rather you should be focused on making quality  post because most times, there are always sime.form of random reviews and you can only be found worthy when you make quality  post and hence,  the .writs will flow in when you least expected.

[Uruhara]

being an established member is different from being a high ranked member. Established members are well known members and we've got some snr members in that category and legendary members who are not in that category. Yes established members get more merits because their posts are too informative to the members of this forum, which made them become established. To get merited, a post must in a way solve some problems for members of this forum. As a newbie, always spend time to research the cryptocurrency market and come up with question that you don't understand. Creating a thread here will help you learn from different members and you may not forget that topic easily when asked to answer such question. Getting merited depends on the people who read the content and the way they felt about the content you shared. Even a one line post can get merited, according to how quality it is to the readers.  It's a gradual process to rank in the forum and every merit counts. The more you expect to get merited, more disappointed you may become. Just share your thoughts on things, which is not clear to you, be consistent, the merits will roll to your account.

So true. and in essence we have to focus more on the process that we are going through and enjoy each of these processes. we must gradually increase our level of insight if we want to become an established member and have a high reputation. And the process of getting additional insights can also be more daring to ask through a topic that we make in this forum. and when we have new insights that maybe no one has discussed in this forum yet, of course we also have to be brave to convey them here.

Merit can be a motivation for someone to be more enthusiastic about digging up information and learning more to add the insights they need to write quality writing. but those who focus too much on earning Merit sometimes stray from the right path. So it's better to be neutral, namely by focusing on self-development and let the Merit flow by itself without us having to think about it.

[aysg76]

I won't agree to this point because I have seen newbies ranking up with the support from high rank members if they share something useful here on the forum but don't know which newbie account you have noticed getting neglected with the contributions.There are certain examples like @n0nce and @PowerGlove who have gained thr title of discovery of the year award so you would say them exceptional case? They have well technical knowledge which has helped them to reach high target but there are some threads where you can submit applications for merit evaluation also if you try to look for them.

[BITCOIN4X]

I won't agree to this point because I have seen newbies ranking up with the support from high rank members if they share something useful here on the forum but don't know which newbie account you have noticed getting neglected with the contributions.There are certain examples like @n0nce and @PowerGlove who have gained thr title of discovery of the year award so you would say them exceptional case? They have well technical knowledge which has helped them to reach high target but there are some threads where you can submit applications for merit evaluation also if you try to look for them.

There are only a some of newbies who are as skilled as the two users you mentioned, but the average newbie is those who are new to bitcoin and forum only after realizing other people are making money on it. Some of them are established user alt accounts who uses the newbie mask, so I would never be surprised if newbies actually are able to discuss things well and are knowledgeable about how forums work.

Newbies are the ones who still really need help and guidance, but of course having alt isn't a ban on forums as long as they don't use it to cheat any campaigns or overload the forum with spam post.

[israt1@]

No one is obliged to give merit. But if a post is good, many people give merit. But there are many topics for those who think the post is good but not getting merit. The main purpose of talkip is to give merit. You can check your post there.

[qwertyup23]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

The merit system was implemented in order to combat account farmers and sellers. Before such was implemented, there were lots of users who would create dozens of alternate accounts (alt accounts) to farm for activity and spam the forum with meaningless and repetitive threads. After these accounts were at least high ranking, these users would sell it to others, though fortunately, some have reported these accounts.

I do think that the merit system deserves it implementation. We have to give it some 'merit' due to the fact that it addressed multiple issues at once (e.g. account farmers, bots, spams, etc.). Though it may be restrictive to some newbies, it forces them to create threads that are beneficial to everyone.

[nurilham]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

I think you must spend more time in this forum, so you can see that many members actually appreciate newbies very much. Even, this forum has a special thread to appreciate any member who supports newbies. 

[TOP-200] Members who support newbies

Regarding the merit, it is quite subjective. And how someone determines a post that deserves merit may also be different. You may assume that your posts are quality enough and they deserve merits but other members may see them differently. Post quality has many criteria, it is not only about valid or reasonable factors. Post structure, its content, and the way to explain it are also big factors to determine whether it is good or bad post quality.

Anyway, when I saw your posts, I personally think you need to improve your post quality to deserve more merits.

[Botnake]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Is it really the trend now? I don’t think giving a merit will depend on your rank or level in the forum. Because as far as I’m concerned, people in the forum give merit to those members whose posts are highly valuable and highly quality regardless of their rank or position in the forum. No one is responsible for other member’s ranking up, it’s only yourself who can always help in that case.

[tvplus006]

...The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum...

You have registered on the forum a few days ago, but you are already worried about the problem of improving the rating. Why does it bother you so much? What is the true reason for your registration on the forum? Obviously, you didn't come here for knowledge, but for earnings.

[SatoPrincess]

...The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum...

You have registered on the forum a few days ago, but you are already worried about the problem of improving the rating. Why does it bother you so much? What is the true reason for your registration on the forum? Obviously, you didn't come here for knowledge, but for earnings.

Personally I do not have a problem with newbies who are here for the bounties and signature campaigns as long as they do not spam, plagiarize or break any of the rules. When you really think about it, what motivates newcomers to register on bitcointalk? In most cases the motivation is money, earning bitcoins is the end goal of everyone here, it may not be through signature campaigns or services but the knowledge they acquire here can be used to improve their financial life.

[loopes]

...The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum...

You have registered on the forum a few days ago, but you are already worried about the problem of improving the rating. Why does it bother you so much? What is the true reason for your registration on the forum? Obviously, you didn't come here for knowledge, but for earnings.

Personally I do not have a problem with newbies who are here for the bounties and signature campaigns as long as they do not spam, plagiarize or break any of the rules. When you really think about it, what motivates newcomers to register on bitcointalk? In most cases the motivation is money, earning bitcoins is the end goal of everyone here, it may not be through signature campaigns or services but the knowledge they acquire here can be used to improve their financial life.

Absolutely agree with SatoPrincess, Joining this forum with earning / bounties / campaign goals is not a problem. because most of people do that, This reasone was normalized by the most of member in  this forum. The problem is Original Poster Mindset that he / she was feel discriminate even though what Original Poster think is wrong. All members have same chance to ranked up and merited no matter what their rank                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

[Mr.right85]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Your not here to rank up, your here to educate and be educated. The ranking profile was put in place to put a check on spam. That doesn't mean, if you ain't getting merits you are spamming but, maybe you just ain't putting enough efforts into your post.
The thing is, no matter how much efforts you put in, quality is perspective directed.
Saying that the chances is thin for a newbie to rank up doesn't add up to me. I think the opposite is the case but, being very active shouldn't be questionable and your contributions shouldn't be lacking.

In your strive to add value, don't relent. You would be noted and rewarded when due.

[Abbatty]

No one is obliged to help anyone rank up, they merit posts they find quality subjectively, regardless of the posters current rank. I see newbies come on the forum and rank up successfully within a couple of months after putting effort into their posts and there are those that just spam the forum or merit hunt and they never get to rank up.

I would agree that we need some more merit sources who would help find more quality posts which would have otherwise gone unnoticed.

The ranking and merit systems' goal is to notify that high-quality posts are published and to reduce spam in the forum.
wow, I guess this a rightfully suggestion. This is extremely the goods possibility every quality post are to receive merit from any one from the forum .

[Mate2237]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Op you are not the first person to face such challenges. Everyone in the forum face it except those first set of user that came early with the forum. All what you have to do is just to create a good threads, good comments, and good contributions will just rank you up speedily. You don't behave to panic, just calm down and read more on posts and make reasonable comments whenever you understand the post you are reading. It is a gradual process. You don't have to rush the process. Of you try to rush it then you enter into a very big problem. So calm your head down.

[Who is John Galt?]

Op you are not the first person to face such challenges. Everyone in the forum face it except those first set of user that came early with the forum. All what you have to do is just to create a good threads, good comments, and good contributions will just rank you up speedily. You don't behave to panic, just calm down and read more on posts and make reasonable comments whenever you understand the post you are reading. It is a gradual process. You don't have to rush the process. Of you try to rush it then you enter into a very big problem. So calm your head down.

Who are we answering if Mia Chloe "Last Active: June 06, 2023, 09:41:22 PM" (the day and hour she opened this topic) and probably didn't even see that got a merit for opening this thread? It seems that the OP is not really interested in what she spoke so passionately about.

[puloweh555]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

From the first sentence you already realize, that you are in this forum not so long ago. therefore you don't need to worry about getting Merit because everything takes time and needs a process. Everyone must have been in your current position as a beginner, you just need a little motivation and continue to explore your abilities by all means, including making posts that can be useful for other members so that merit will come by itself.

And one more thing that needs to be understood and you should know like this, giving merit is not seen from the account ranking. if your submission is constructive and unique, they will be more than happy to award Merit. try to be patient, keep trying to contribute and enjoy the process, all of that will be beautiful in its time.

[Hamza2424]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Hmm, I am not sure why you are posting this but I would like to add things up here most of the valuable content is created by the established members, I am not saying that Nebiews never contribute they do contribute in good content generation even sometimes better than any Full member or Sr or Hero. At the same time, such cases are so rare that Nebiews and Junior are putting effort make good content. Even I was a newbie back a year ago. Most of the time even after putting in some effort we don't get deserving merits for such cases you can directly apply for the meriting on different active threads.

[ShowOff]

From the first sentence you already realize, that you are in this forum not so long ago. therefore you don't need to worry about getting Merit because everything takes time and needs a process. Everyone must have been in your current position as a beginner, you just need a little motivation and continue to explore your abilities by all means, including making posts that can be useful for other members so that merit will come by itself.

And one more thing that needs to be understood and you should know like this, giving merit is not seen from the account ranking. if your submission is constructive and unique, they will be more than happy to award Merit. try to be patient, keep trying to contribute and enjoy the process, all of that will be beautiful in its time.

Yes, all users need a process to grow and develop in this forum. Everything doesn't come instantly even if they are knowledgeable users. There are some beginners who sometimes have the same knowledge as experts in this forum, but they also need a process to rank up even though they have got a lot of merit. The merit system and other requirements such as activity points would prevent them from crossing boundaries easily, so everyone had to follow the system and process.