Established members and newbies

[Mia Chloe]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

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[Zaguru12]

It could possible be that just maybe similar post has been done before or the newbie didn’t explain it more clearly which sometimes we see higher ranking members post on same thread and get acknowledged. But once a new post with valuable information is shared it is mostly acknowledged. I am not saying posts that report news of event with links attached. Most at times these topics are either not seeing by merit sources or people that saw it have no smerit to share

Although the merit system is quite different probably now than before, if you feel a topic or contribution isn’t appreciated enough then you might as well just submit the links to various threads on the forum, because there merit sources that have threads for this purposes.

[Nwada001]

Help them rank up how?
Have you forgotten that everyone passes those steps from newbie to member until the legendary rank? Do you think anyone jumps any of those steps? Everyone was a newbie, and they all got the attention and help they deserved from other members. Only those who were here before the merit system was introduced got merit airdropped to them. If merit is not given to anyone who deserves it, everyone in this forum has what they see in someone's post that makes them merit it. Once you have made your post unique and quality, you will get the merit you want to rank up to your next rank.

[Upgrade00]

No one is obliged to help anyone rank up, they merit posts they find quality subjectively, regardless of the posters current rank. I see newbies come on the forum and rank up successfully within a couple of months after putting effort into their posts and there are those that just spam the forum or merit hunt and they never get to rank up.

I would agree that we need some more merit sources who would help find more quality posts which would have otherwise gone unnoticed.

[decodx]

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I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Well, in my case, it's not really about the rank. When I stumble upon a post that I find genuinely helpful, I don't bother checking the person's rank. If I have some spare merits to give, I gladly share them. However, I'm not exactly a merit powerhouse, so I don't have an abundance to help someone skyrocket their rank.

Now, what you may have observed is that posts from higher-ranked members tend to receive more merits. And that's not surprising, considering that those members often bring valuable insights and wisdom thanks to their knowledge and experience. It's a general trend, but hey, there are always exceptions to the rule. So, it's not set in stone that higher-ranked posts are automatically more valuable, but they do tend to carry that reputation.

Anyway, show me one post by a low ranking member that you think didn't get enough credit, and I'll see what I can do.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

You are just barely one week old on this forum and here you are complaining about ranking up and how "Newbies" aren't getting the merit they deserved, which to me, I see that to sound funny as we all know that all high ranking member you see today on this forum was once a "Newbie" who got ranked up after someone saw their post/contribution to be worth meriting. Because "merit" is what comes naturally, in as much as you providing valuable contents and offering helpful advise during contributions.

[Dunamisx]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up

Maybe you should take time to learn more about merits on this forum that you have to earn it and not that you must be given as long as you made a post, the giver also would have received something meaningful from what you posted that touched him which warrant him to merit your post, obviously not everyone posting will be merited at the same time, the same way you don't have smerit to merit someone's post is also applicable to some.

The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.

Are you posting because you want to rank up or because you want to earn merits? everyone has equal opportunity to rank and don't make it sound like the senior ranks are being biased about it, they also work hard to earn it, merit sources also ensure even distribution in quality posts across.
learning about merits, activities and ranks here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0

I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

maybe you should take a look on this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185736.280 and discover the numbers of newbies ranking up and receiving merits in their good numbers

[Potato Chips]

I believe most members consider the post content the most when it comes to meriting however let's not forget that what one considers 'merit-able' may be different for some people.

I also think we've got some decent numbers from established members, see: [TOP-200] Members who support newbies - Thanks!

[Amphenomenon]

I totally understand what you are trying to pass but if you have a good post that have not been merited, there are merit source who can help you out, though they are not much but not few either, once you keep to their rules definitely your post would be merited if it worth it, here are some thread that are currently open to help forum members rank up :
[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
Re: [Merit]
Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed
Helping Potential Legendary, Hero, Senior and Full Members (May 2023 Update)
There are others that I don't know of but this would help you though.

[GeorgeJohn]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Obviously you are using indirect way to seek and campaign for merit by sugar-coated some words concerning merit, let me inform you, merit doesn't come through this process, you most make a research and bring your results before you can be rewards of merit, secondly merit is been earn by your positive information give in the forum, I believe that nobody gives merit to newbie without finding meaning in the users composition. Merit is not been given out of sympathy or because you are a newbie and it's most that you earn merit without hard work.

[Bushdark]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.
I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

You only have 5 posts and you want help? And the newbies you are writing about, how did you know that they are not been assisted to rank up. If you want merit, it is better you boldly come out without hiding your interest.
If you have a good posts and you want to rank up, you can ask merit source to review your posts so they can add value to your merit history than just admitting that the newbies or people that are just coming up are not getting help. That is an understatement and you don't have to assume whatbuou have no proper understanding about. Maybe you can start making good posts and see whether you are not going to earn merits.

[GiftedMAN]

Op from your write up you sound like some one who just created this thread to get the attention of people here because I read your post just to see a different meaning to what other members have said but to be honest I don't see anything different. You got registered to the forum few days ago and your first observation has been on the difficulty of the newbies ranking up and how they are not easily merited by the other esterblished members Wonder 🤔. I must tell you this, if you focus on merit you won't last here because you will end up being tired when you don't get what your looking for but if you shift your focus on developing your knowledge on cryptocurrency and try to give your time to read and understand things clearly here you will enjoy your stay here because at the end you will have the knowledge and you will share your thoughts, contribution to others and the merits will flow once you make good contribution to the things you learnt here and through research also.

[decodx]

You only have 5 posts and you want help?

He's probably asking for a "friend", who is too shy to ask this kind of question with his main account.

[GeorgeJohn]

Op from your write up you sound like some one who just created this thread to get the attention of people here because I read your post just to see a different meaning to what other members have said but to be honest I don't see anything different. You got registered to the forum few days ago and your first observation has been on the difficulty of the newbies ranking up and how they are not easily merited by the other esterblished members Wonder 🤔. I must tell you this, if you focus on merit you won't last here because you will end up being tired when you don't get what your looking for but if you shift your focus on developing your knowledge on cryptocurrency and try to give your time to read and understand things clearly here you will enjoy your stay here because at the end you will have the knowledge and you will share your thoughts, contribution to others and the merits will flow once you make good contribution to the things you learnt here and through research also.

if peruse op writing style you will know that op is already existing in the forum and this is one of his alt, if this is someone's alt so how would op know the important of merit and also derived a method of seeking merit with sugar-coated way, op is a member of forum that knows the rudiments of forum, observing this method or style of writing its obvious that op knows what is doing, newbies who has not come in contact with forum before will make a lot of mistake when writing composition in bitcointalk, so op is very comfortable during the time of making this thread, so he knows what is doing.

[drwhobox]

You have not tried enough to rank up your account. You don't put the effort in this forum and yet you are talking about newbies not getting merit and rank up their account.
I think you should try yourself by providing value to this forum and your account will get merit from members. You have to understand that merit does not works like social media like and re-act.

[Bushdark]

Op from your write up you sound like some one who just created this thread to get the attention of people here because I read your post just to see a different meaning to what other members have said but to be honest I don't see anything different. You got registered to the forum few days ago and your first observation has been on the difficulty of the newbies ranking up and how they are not easily merited by the other esterblished members Wonder 🤔. I must tell you this, if you focus on merit you won't last here because you will end up being tired when you don't get what your looking for but if you shift your focus on developing your knowledge on cryptocurrency and try to give your time to read and understand things clearly here you will enjoy your stay here because at the end you will have the knowledge and you will share your thoughts, contribution to others and the merits will flow once you make good contribution to the things you learnt here and through research also.

if peruse op writing style you will know that op is already existing in the forum and this is one of his alt, if this is someone's alt so how would op know the important of merit and also derived a method of seeking merit with sugar-coated way, op is a member of forum that knows the rudiments of forum, observing this method or style of writing its obvious that op knows what is doing, newbies who has not come in contact with forum before will make a lot of mistake when writing composition in bitcointalk, so op is very comfortable during the time of making this thread, so he knows what is doing.

I think he need to make sure he upgrade his posts history to receive merits from merit source. Someone cam not be writing posts that are not of quality and he expect to get merit to upgrade to the next rank. Well getting merits can be very slow but that should not be our aim of writing a quality posts. We should always make it as an habit to write well and have a good reputation than writing after merit hunting which can be very painful when we are nit getting what we plan to have. Merit is not only the compliment of a good posters, there are other things a person can earn from being a good writer which is quite better than just writing quality posts to earn merits .

[Dzwaafu11]

Although I haven't spent much time on this forum I observed that when most newbie make a valid and reasonable post they only get nice replies instead of established members assisting in ranking them up
The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum.

You are still a new member of the forum, so I'm curious why you're considering earning merits to rank up your account when you've only made five posts. This indicates that you don't yet understand the workings of the forum or other things you should be aware of, but OP is not an easy task to rank up an account, so I'm not sure if you think the people you see with higher ranks are earning merits quickly.
 
I want you to understand that even if you rank up without having the fundamental knowledge, how can you reply to good posts? As you said, those people you see on higher ranks go through a lot of learning procedures about the forum and cryptocurrency, even though I know most newbies come for merits to get higher ranks to apply for signature campaigns, which is not the case.
  

I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Nobody will assist you in moving up the ranks as long as your posts are of high quality and deserving of merit. As long as you put in more effort, merit will come to you unexpectedly. However, as long as your posts are deserving of merit, forum users will award them, with the exception of those who reply to them using Smerits. Don't assume that those who are higher up the ranks simply ask for them; they also put in the effort.

[sheenshane]

When you deserved it to have by determining your effort, why not.
Try to look at this thread made by @fillippone, if you feel that you've contributed a good thread why not post it there, someone will help you for sure.

The chances of having even single merit are less when sounds like you're begging for it.
Learn everything and enjoy while you're here in the forum, once you're knowledgeable enough merit will come without knowing you, and ranking up your account isn't that hard for you. 

[UchihaSarada]

The chances of ranking up from a newbie is very thin in most cases  even for those striving to add value to the forum

Post like this one does not deserve to get merit.

I am not imposing anyone to help others rank up but I am saying rank should not be a sole factor to consider when someone deserves a merit

Post quality depends on the poster, not a poster rank. If a newbie write a post deserves merit, that post will receive more merit than if it was posted by a legendary member as you can get more merit from merit sources.

[Darker45]

I agree with you that rank should not be a sole factor to consider when giving merits. That's absurd. However, is there anybody here who actually has that standard?

While I have observed no one who seems to belittle newbies so much as to consider them not deserving of any merit, in fairness to you, I also have this old observation that ranks matter in how users are treated here, not particularly about merit but in general.

And you're maybe right to a certain extent. It may indeed be much easier for a known legendary, for example, to earn a merit than a newbie. As a matter of fact, a sarcastic one-liner coming from the former could probably earn a merit more than a relevant opinion coming from a newbie.