'John Abraham ≈ naim027' Coincidence or Connection?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I remember how bad you felt when it was discovered the number of merits you awarded naim027 and his alt-accounts, especially after he wrote to you asking for you to review his post history.

I wonder why he would ask for you to review the post history on the John Abraham account when he was already participating in the highest paying signature campaign (whirlwind)

Yeah, I was probably thinking of that exact case when I wrote what I wrote, because I think it was the last time it came to my attention that I gave merits to someone I shouldn't have--but I know it isn't the only instance. 

As to why he would ask me for more merits....reputation-building, perhaps?  And though he's in the highest-paying sig campaign he is 'only' a Sr. Member and I assume Whirlwind pays more for Hero/Legendary members, and even if they don't other campaigns do, so wanting to rank up and increase his available sig space makes sense.  Usually the motives around here come down to money, just as they do in the real world.

When Royse777 had naim023 on his team when he was building the Casino Critique site, I never had an issue with the latter.  It was only after he started all the drama with him at the center that he became a problem in my mind, i.e., when he got banned.  You've got a much better memory about these things than I do, but I don't recall ever having a personal problem with naim023 (back then, anyway).  I'll be following this situation and will be more vigilant with my merit-giving in the future, at least to the extent that I can identify alts.

Ugh.

[FatFork]

Face plastered over in terms of privacy. Whoever needs it can easily find this profile.

This photo shows a model from the Russian modeling agency Lumpen, which suggests that the LinkedIn profile is fake.


Source: https://edition.cnn.com/style/gallery/russian-modeling-agency/index.html

[Mahdirakib]

So, You are telling me; If I said I don't use Payoneer in the past, I should not use that for the rest of my life. Isn't it?

No one has said it here, but the interesting part is that you sold BTC to 'naim027' (your alt) two times before the 25th February, and took the payment in USD on PayPal. Where you said in your 25th February post that you don't use PayPal (pointed out by 'decodx' already). You are proving yourself as a liar on your every post now.

[JollyGood]

As to why he would ask me for more merits....reputation-building, perhaps?  And though he's in the highest-paying sig campaign he is 'only' a Sr. Member and I assume Whirlwind pays more for Hero/Legendary members, and even if they don't other campaigns do, so wanting to rank up and increase his available sig space makes sense.  Usually the motives around here come down to money, just as they do in the real world.

True, it is difficult to argue with that point, as far as members within the forum is concerned it does in most cases come to money just as it would in the real world. Ranking up to Legendary would be the ultimate goal as those ranks to in some campaigns earn more than Snr Member and Hero rank but why risk asking for posts reviews when maybe the one doing the reviewing might connect the style of writing with another member? Maybe it is just him believing he will not get caught out.

You've got a much better memory about these things than I do, but I don't recall ever having a personal problem with naim023 (back then, anyway).  I'll be following this situation and will be more vigilant with my merit-giving in the future, at least to the extent that I can identify alts.

Well, maybe your memory is not that good if you keep mentioned naim027 as naim023. We all know he had (and probably still has) many alt-accounts but from him to jumping from 027 to 023 would seriously insulting our collective intelligence 

So, You are telling me; If I said I don't use Payoneer in the past, I should not use that for the rest of my life. Isn't it?

No one has said it here, but the interesting part is that you sold BTC to 'naim027' (your alt) two times before the 25th February, and took the payment in USD on PayPal. Where you said in your 25th February post that you don't use PayPal (pointed out by 'decodx' already). You are proving yourself as a liar on your every post now.

Well, this is another interesting point.

The problem with liars (especially compulsive liars such as naim027) is that they end up digging a hole too deep they cannot climb back out of it. One lie leads to another and then another and then another and then it snowballs in to something much bigger, so big that the chief architect of the lies forgets what he said and to whom as well as where he mentioned the lies.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

but why risk asking for posts reviews when maybe the one doing the reviewing might connect the style of writing with another member? Maybe it is just him believing he will not get caught out.

Yeah, but in this case it wasn't me who caught him.  I think I may have discovered an alt or two when doing post history reviews, but as I said my memory is shot (or I'm just not retaining that kind of info like I used to).  It's been quite some time since I actively researched bought/hacked accounts or tried to connect various accounts as alts.  2018 was probably the year I got burned out on doing so, and I'm glad others are still active in sniffing out the cheaters.

Well, maybe your memory is not that good if you keep mentioned naim027 as naim023. We all know he had (and probably still has) many alt-accounts but from him to jumping from 027 to 023 would seriously insulting our collective intelligence 

LOL.  Thanks for pointing that out; my mistake was from a misreading of his name or going by a flawed memory.  I will duly note his true username and try not to forget. 

[decodx]

I don't know people who learn Bengali for fun, hence the assumption.

How do you know I learned Bengali? A translated post won't make you native in any language.

So you are telling us that you don't know Bengali? Interesting. Where did you get this screenshot from?

I'm no expert, but it looks Bengali to me.

I already explained this. I sold my BTC for Paypal.

That's all I heard from my friend. I don't use PayPal.

https://ninjastic.space/post/61818297

So, You are telling me; If I said I don't use Payoneer in the past, I should not use that for the rest of my life. Isn't it?

No. I'm telling you that you claimed not to have PayPal AFTER your alleged transaction with naim027. Which means you lied in at least one of your two statements.

My Username is Indian.

You may have taken your name from a famous Indian actor, but your username is certainly not Indian.

Instead, You guys are forcing me to reveal my private data.

No one's forcing you to do anything. If you don't feel like sharing your private information publicly, you can choose to involve trusted community members like LoyceV who can verify the evidence you provide.

[jokers10]

No one's forcing you to do anything. If you don't feel like sharing your private information publicly, you can choose to involve trusted community members like LoyceV who can verify the evidence you provide.

I'd say that no private data can prove anything in this case. Which data can it be? KYC? First it is against the basic ideas of true crypto. Second it can be easily falsificated. What else?

I don't think we should burden any respectable forum user with any private data of anyone else, especially when there is no vision of how it can prove anything. First we have to be sure that that sensitive information can significantly help but even then we can only think if we can ask someone to help with that, and the one who can probably be asked have all grounds for refusal.

[_BlackStar]

Instead, You guys are forcing me to reveal my private data.

Including me? No - I'm not forcing you to reveal private data, but I'm just hoping that you can disprove some of these allegations with some evidence. One of the proofs that I expect from you for defense is posting your telegram chat history with Naim027 especially when making transactions - but until now you keep avoid it and haven't been able to prove it.

John - this is not the best way to solve your problem but most of us firmly believe that you are Naim027.

[decodx]

No one's forcing you to do anything. If you don't feel like sharing your private information publicly, you can choose to involve trusted community members like LoyceV who can verify the evidence you provide.

I'd say that no private data can prove anything in this case. Which data can it be? KYC? First it is against the basic ideas of true crypto. Second it can be easily falsificated. What else?

I don't think we should burden any respectable forum user with any private data of anyone else, especially when there is no vision of how it can prove anything. First we have to be sure that that sensitive information can significantly help but even then we can only think if we can ask someone to help with that, and the one who can probably be asked have all grounds for refusal.

I totally agree with what you're saying. The thing is, this guy hasn't really given us any solid evidence or tried to refute any of the points made against him. We've been waiting and waiting, but nothing!

Maybe he's worried about giving away his personal addresses or showing his blockchain transactions. But hey, we're not asking for his life story here, just some basic evidence to back up his claims. Without that, it's hard to take him seriously.


He said: "Think logically. I don't have to disclose my private data to prove that we are not the same person. You will eventually find it if you do your own research with a positive mindset."
So, I just try to think logically and with a positive mindset.

Instead, You guys are forcing me to reveal my private data.

Including me? No - I'm not forcing you to reveal private data, but I'm just hoping that you can disprove some of these allegations with some evidence. One of the proofs that I expect from you for defense is posting your telegram chat history with Naim027 especially when making transactions - but until now you keep avoid it and haven't been able to prove it.

John - this is not the best way to solve your problem but most of us firmly believe that you are Naim027.

Exactly! It does seem quite convenient that naim027 has kept a record of the entire chat history with Mahdirakib, especially if there's some tension between them after the exposure of his previous alt accounts. But he conveniently deleted all the chat messages he supposedly had with John Abraham? It's definitely raising some eyebrows. Or, for example, he claims to have sent a portion of the earnings from signature campaigns to his personal Binance account, but he has not shown a single transaction of this kind on the blockchain. If there's nothing to hide, why not share ALL the evidence?

[Free Market Capitalist]

The problem with liars (especially compulsive liars such as naim027) is that they end up digging a hole too deep they cannot climb back out of it. One lie leads to another and then another and then another and then it snowballs in to something much bigger, so big that the chief architect of the lies forgets what he said and to whom as well as where he mentioned the lies.

is that people spend too much time analyzing what they say and trying to dismantle their lies.

At the moment naim027 has 3 red tags in his alt that we are talking about in this thread. I'm sure little by little some more negative feedback will be added. The question is, how long will his manager keep him in the signature campaign? Lately it seems that he doesn't kick people out for a couple of red tags.

As to why he would ask me for more merits....reputation-building, perhaps?  

Account strength building globally, I would say, because he already has enough merits for Hero member.

Now he is in the whirlwind campaign but if in the future the campaign ceases or whatever, if he is in the top merit earners he could access Royse777's campaigns that have the green zone, with similar payout, or custom deals.

[LoyceV]

I don't know people who learn Bengali for fun, hence the assumption.

How do you know I learned Bengali? A translated post won't make you native in any language.

You don't seem to understand that creating a smoke screen with hypothetical answers instead of providing clear answers doesn't make you look any better. Unless of course the accusations are true, in that case all you're doing is delaying the inevitable.

And there's this:

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

[Apocollapse]

The question is, how long will his manager keep him in the signature campaign? Lately it seems that he doesn't kick people out for a couple of red tags.

Don't worry, he has been kicked since his username is deleted starting from the current round whirlwind.money Signature Campaign, so your and other DT feedback are working.

Since all of his busted alt accounts weren't able to participate in any campaign, watch out we might see another new alt soon

And there's this:

27. Using automated translation tools to post translated content in Local boards is not allowed.

I think it's related with posting to get paid or bounties, I've seen few people using Google translate to post on someone local board and there's no problem about that. But this is not to defend naim027 lol, the other proofs of multiple transactions and discuss about Bengali team in cricket are really suspicious.

[JollyGood]

The question is, how long will his manager keep him in the signature campaign? Lately it seems that he doesn't kick people out for a couple of red tags.

The name John Abraham has been removed from the spreadsheet since this current week began therefore he is no longer on the Whirlwind campaign.

As to why he would ask me for more merits....reputation-building, perhaps?  

Account strength building globally, I would say, because he already has enough merits for Hero member.

Now he is in the whirlwind campaign but if in the future the campaign ceases or whatever, if he is in the top merit earners he could access Royse777's campaigns that have the green zone, with similar payout, or custom deals.

The distance between Hero and Legendary ranks is huge and he was just about at Hero range with 500+ merits as long as he reached the correct Activity.

The part that confuses me is that since he was not in a position to become Legendary rank any time soon and he was also on his way to become Hero in due-course by simply remaining active (as he reached the 500 merits threshold), I cannot understand what was there in benefit for naim027 to ask for his John Abraham account to be reviewed for more merits.

I can understand it most probably would be account strength in the hope of getting more merits for when he took the account to Legendary but why would he do it now when he is far from that goal?

[Saheedu]

but why would he do it now when he is far from that goal?

I think the answer to this is very simple he did all of these simply because of Greed.

A liar and a cheat will never be satistified with what they have and will always seek more even if it involves deceiving others to get what they want.

[JollyGood]

What would you say to forum members (including myself) that are very much of thought that you are another accounts by naim027 and that you are making these comments to display a sign of anti-naim027 for misdirection and smokescreen purposes? Is there anything you can say that will give members any confidence in your conduct?

but why would he do it now when he is far from that goal?

I think the answer to this is very simple he did all of these simply because of Greed.

A liar and a cheat will never be satistified with what they have and will always seek more even if it involves deceiving others to get what they want.

[Rikafip]

I can understand it most probably would be account strength in the hope of getting more merits for when he took the account to Legendary but why would he do it now when he is far from that goal?

I am not sure why that surprises you so much, that someone who is far away from Legendary rank (activity wise) wants to reach that 1k merit mark asap, or that he wants to keep farming merit. I mean, we all know more merit earned in 120 days often means better signature campaign so its only natural for account farmer to keep on farming merit in every possble way he can, and he became pretty decent at that. 

[Saheedu]

What would you say to forum members (including myself) that are very much of thought that you are another accounts by naim027 and that you are making these comments to display a sign of anti-naim027 for misdirection and smokescreen purposes? Is there anything you can say that will give members any confidence in your conduct?

Now I see the reason for my tag, I noticed it few days ago and ignored it, if I was connected to the cheater, liar and deciever what on earth am I going to say that will change your perception towards me? It will only sound like a noise to your ears so why should I complain about it?

This account has earned just one merit and form my activiteness you should have figured out that I have no interest in building an account my main concern was about mining and I thought I could earn by using free electricity but was later set straight be forum members on how unethical that is.

If you think I would go around like those sissy to create a thread on why I was given a neutral, that's not going to happen I ain't no simp and couldn't careless on what you think about my account It is a forum and everyone is free to think what they like but one thing is sure even if  get a million tags for something I don't know I don't bother myself because I am sure Karma knows how to handle situation like this.

Feel free to change it to blood, you know what I mean.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Now I see the reason for my tag, I noticed it few days ago and ignored it, if I was connected to the cheater, liar and deciever what on earth am I going to say that will change your perception towards me? It will only sound like a noise to your ears so why should I complain about it?

I left the tag but as it is neutral, it's not going to have any consequences. I simply don't knowif you are another alt of naim027, but your previous post in this thread makes me suspicious of what motives you may have. You say you were interested in mining and such but naim027 I see him capable of creating countless alts and making up millions of stories, one of which could be that.

For the rest, as I say nothing happens because of the neutral tag and if you are interested in using this forum well even less.

JollyGood gave your first merit btw so take that as positive.

[Cratoon]

Hello.
I am Seva from Paradice.in
Naim sent me a DM asking me to say something here.
I can only say that Naim and John worked for Paradice.in
John resigned on 26th March 2021. While Naim worked with us till 5th May 2023.
Both handled our BitcoinTalk profile. John handled our profile from 2020 to 2021, and Naim handled it from 2021 to 2023.
Naim asked me at least to say that they worked for us. Yes, they worked for us, and we never suspected they could be the same person. During their working time, they worked at different times while our support agents tried not to overlap.

[decodx]

Yes, they worked for us, and we never suspected they could be the same person. During their working time, they worked at different times while our support agents tried not to overlap.

Basically, you can't really say for sure if both accounts on the bitcointalk forum are controlled by the same person or not? If you think back and recall the interactions you had with them, is it possible that they could be the same individual?

The evidence presented by forum members in this thread, linking the two accounts, appears to be indisputable. Do you have any evidence that contradicts this conclusion?