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Most of the active members of Meta and Reputation board are aware of the drama of 'naim027' and his alt accounts. You can check it here if you don't know about it.

• Ban Appeal For naim027. (SOLVED) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399515.0)
• Hello World || Welcome back again! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864.0)

In brief, Naim027 was banned for plagiarism on 18th or 19th May 2022. His account was unbanned on the 12th October 2022. Then he was caught with his alt accounts within a day, and received negative feedback from some forum members.

Coincidence: 'John Abraham (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2589230)' was inactive in the forum since 2nd January of 2021. He woke up on the 26th June 2022 (while naim027 account was banned), then started making post from 18th October after changing account password. In the meantime, 'naim027' was receiving negative feedback and disappeared from the forum slowly.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/11/AFMFP.jpeg

Connection: John Abraham had participated in 'Yo!Mix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434037.msg61576967#msg61576967)' signature campaign for the first time as a full member. He sent his first 3 weeks payment to "naim027" address on 28th January (transaction link (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/932cbfb3e1d7caaf95eec3f4096ffe0b01706d86cc89e24dbe5ca8e9d7e0777c)). He made another transaction to 'naim027' on 17th February (transaction link (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/e9cc46f0280e4a0853c00429598e91c01bbc4f3e8f1f4c3713d56866f665f8d2)).

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/11/AFEg3.png



Possible Connection: John Abraham is a participant of whirlwind.money signature campaign now. whirlwind.money team and campaign manager have decided to pay the user on the site through note (and public address) from the 6th round (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446576.msg62185436#msg62185436). Surprisingly, 'naim027' started receiving BTC from whirlwind.money reserve address after each weekly payment since then (check his Bitcoin address (https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa)). While the address of 'John Abraham' hasn't received any transaction after that.


Eventually, don't forget:

I see @John Abraham's BTC transaction to @naim027's address. Everyone will say it is multi account. But it could also be that @John Abraham sold the bitcoins he got to @naim027. I cannot say exactly what is right here, but there are senior members here who will analyze the judgment and decide what is right.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/932cbfb3e1d7caaf95eec3f4096ffe0b01706d86cc89e24dbe5ca8e9d7e0777c.pdf (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/932cbfb3e1d7caaf95eec3f4096ffe0b01706d86cc89e24dbe5ca8e9d7e0777c.pdf)
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/11/AF9jg.png

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/e9cc46f0280e4a0853c00429598e91c01bbc4f3e8f1f4c3713d56866f665f8d2.pdf (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/e9cc46f0280e4a0853c00429598e91c01bbc4f3e8f1f4c3713d56866f665f8d2.pdf)
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/11/AFBOI.png

In my opinion, it would be reasonable to assume naim027 is still around here with some of his multiple accounts which we do not know about.

On the other hand, there is a reasonable possibilty those transactions are just the results of a out-of-forum dealings. Either way, I would not speculate further until I have seen more evidence and heard on the version of the accused.

It is also worth of attention naim027 has shown to have writing patterns which have been used before to link his other former accounts, let us see what happens...

I am pretty sure it is him, even if the evidence is not 100% conclusive because he can always claim to have made a transaction with someone else. But I'm not going to waste a lot of energy on this, seeing that he was not banned again from the forum and that he will have to have at least half a dozen negative feedbacks to be kicked out of the signature campaign.

I expected Naim027 to still have a bunch of accounts active in the forum, I could tell from his previous actions that  he would not let a ban stop him from creating new accounts. I don’t doubt the John Abraham account could be controlled by Naim027 but we will need more concrete evidence to tag the account. It’s a shame how Naim027 turned out, he was doing pretty well before he got caught.

I am also pretty sure it is him.
But then since he was unbanned @naim027, he is not guilty of ban evasion. I am not going to tag him either, but others could find a reason to transfer the sins of naim027 to other of  his alts.
One thing I admire about naim027 is his ability to build up accounts very fast and attract as many as possible merits within a short time.  I was sincerely pained when he damaged one of his alts that grew very fast - @AnotherAlt.
He has the super power to build accounts very fast because of his considerable good writing skills, and he is also talented at damaging the pretty good accounts within a short period of time.
My fear and worry is not naim027 being able to earn with his alts, but him getting into DT will be worrisome. Both naim027 and Anotheralt were at the verge of getting into DT before he was bursted.

He is, he was ban evading with his alts AnotherAlt and Crypt0S0ul while he was banned while the rules only allowed him to create a thread to appeal his ban.

I don’t understand why his main account wasn’t banned even after there was enough proof to show that AnotherAlt and Crypt0S0ul were both controlled by him. Apparently the moderators do not agree, the case has been left unhandled for too long. And by that narrative, it could be said that the mods do not think Naim027 was/is evading ban.

So, you mean the moderators don't agree with him confessing?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864.msg61116237#msg61116237

I see you both are very clueless on the subject.

@Mahdirakib that's a good catch. I've detected that @John Abraham sent some bitcoin to @naim027's wallet in the last month, but I'm not sure about making a thread about this one. I believe it's the alt account @naim027 which has been inactive for the last few months, but I just wouldn't swear it was @naim027.

I'll be waiting for @John Abraham to clarify on that - I see him very active on the reputation board and I hope he has some good reasons for us to hear.

This evidence is indeed not enough, but with this transaction, I think it opens up a greater chance that the two accounts are indeed controlled by the same person.
especially after the @naim027 account was banned. he no longer derives a source of income from the signature campaign. and he's trying other accounts to participate in the signature campaign.

proof of transaction can be rejected. but let's see how @John Abraham responds. I'm sure he won't miss this one and provide clarification on the transaction made.

OP, you sent @John Abraham a pm to this thread?

I am in no doubt about naim027 having more alt-account and not only are some them active some are probably enrolled on to campaigns with a particular campaign manager  ::)

Naim027 was not doing that well, when he mentioned he did not need signature campaign income as he was already working multiple job I knew immediately he was a compulsive liar but even before that I wrote him off as such. Let us not forget one of his alt-accounts was even exposing other members who had alt-accounts enrolled on campaigns or participating in bounties.

I would not be surprised if in the coming weeks and months more alt-accounts are connected in one way or another.

I don't know why you're talking about a particular manager when John Abraham works on the same campaign as you do for the same manager, and I'm sure you're not thinking of him.

naim027, as KingsDen said, he has a great ability to build up accounts fast and earn a lot of merits. If he didn't get to make the asshole he could have had all the alts he could handle working on campaigns legally. With that ability and no proof that he is a ban evader, that he plagiarized and that he sent himself merits on his alts, any manager will hire him. The proof is that he is in the highest paying campaign.

I feel dumb for having given this John Abraham account any merits now. Looking at the transactions, it absolutely appears to be an alt account. Even if it wasn't, I don't trust any account that has any kind of association to naim027. Never giving another merit to a low-ranking account for posts in the WO thread again.

That seems to be his modus operandi, I've read that with other alts he had already gone to the WO thread at the beginning to get merits there. I checked AnotherAlt with bpip.org, https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=AnotherAlt and I see that this is indeed the case. I think this adds more plausibility to the hypothesis that John Abraham is another alt of this guy.

Naim027 and I worked together for a long time, from 2020 to mid-2021, for a casino. I know him as Sil3ntS0ul. From our long working period together, we have had a good relationship with each other.

The transactions you are seeing are nothing but selling my Bitcoin to him for USD. I never thought that would make me his alternative account, LOL.



It's very interesting and made me think how easy to misunderstand a user on bitcointalk.

If you wrote about DCA a few times then I think you will also find a similar style of telling others about the same suggestion/advice. I don't think this should be a reference to find alternative accounts.

You have nothing else to say except this. Do you live in the same country of 'naim027'? How 'naim027' sent you the USD? Can you show the proof of your conversation regarding those transactions? Why are you sending BTC to 'naim027' address from the whirlwind.money mixer after the 6th round payment?

What evidence will you submit to back up this claim?

Were you working online only and never met in person?

Were you working in a physical casino establishment somewhere in Bangladesh as physical colleagues?

Quite clearly yes you never thought you would have the two addresses linked otherwise you would have avoided the whole drama and tried to stay under the radar without having another account exposed.

I will tag your account because if your story is true you deserve a neutral tag but if as suspected another naim027 has just been exposed you deserve another red tag. Having said that I will allow you the opportunity to reply to this post and will take your reply in to consideration beforehand. I am looking forward to reading what you have to say.

In your reply do not forget to explain exactly your response to the following:

1- Why the first 3 weeks full payment from your YoMix signature campaign plus an extra payment 6 days later went to a known naim027 Bitcoin address (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/932cbfb3e1d7caaf95eec3f4096ffe0b01706d86cc89e24dbe5ca8e9d7e0777c).

2- Why is a known naim027 Bitcoin address receiving funds every week from Whirlwind (via Notes) (https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa) after your John Abraham account starting receiving Note payments for the Whirlwind signature campaign yet your own registered John Abraham known Bitcoin address (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q3652jcryqgy0l38unay7tx69h56a865z6t8ndx) stopped receiving funds from Whirlwind even though you are enrolled on their signature campaign?

If John Abraham turns out to be really Naim027, then we are in for an exciting show. This guy is dodgy as a snake. I also noticed some of John Abraham's abrupt appearances in the meta and the way he communicates, but I thought I was getting shamelessly suspicious.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/ABRRP.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/ABRRP)

Mahdirakib, I've seen your previous posts related to Naim027's exposure. I respect that you keep catching him; maybe you have better reasons for spying on him.

The proofs provided by @Mahdirakib are enough for the named member to get banned from the forum again. If not then again this member would come out with an alt account. My understanding is that a banned member is not supposed to open up a new account.


Prove it! None of us here would be satisfied with your shitty replies. Prove that you knew the banned account member and then prove those USDT were transferred back to your wallet according to those dates. Do not come up with fake images as you will be again caught.

I never wanted to get involved in this issue, but after reading the previous thread in which he (naim07) was exposed, I realized that we are dealing with an expert when it comes to lying and deceiving others, and I am confident that the same thing will happen in this thread.

He's already made the BUY/SOLD logic, expecting that if no one else comes up with more evidence, the thread and accusation will be buried and forgotten.

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I'm not very adept at data analysis, but I discovered some questionable posts of his.


I recall one of your posts that I came across while reading through your post history to check if there was any connection between both accounts.


How then do you prove that you truly Naim027 or should I say your alt account? does not belong to you.

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Wait, are you saying that your alt Naim027 paid for a coin that you didn't receive? since, according to the information on blockchair, you received your third payment on Jan 28, 2023, 12:51 PM I understand it took some time to get confirmed, and you then proceeded to sell (according to you) at Jan 28, 2023, 3:10 PM. Before you received your weekly paymetn you sold it out,right?
 
What are your comments on this? And where did you two meet to discuss the buying and selling nonsense you devised?

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I saw this and guess what I found?



Do these sound familiar to you?

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If you take a look at the time Naim027 addresses receives the coins from whirlwind reserve address it's only few hours from the time Hhampuz, the campaign manager makes his payment announcement.

I think there's no need to add more evidence because he will learn from the similarity you guys have posted in this thread to make him stay undetected with his new alts. Remember he's not a ban evader because all of his accounts are still exist, so it's definitely allowed for him to create new accounts as much as he want.

He will keep lying, see he's only mention he own four accounts e.g. naim027, Dic3l0v3r, CryptoS0ul, AnotherAlt.

After carefully rereading the thread, I think the key is here:


The rest is circumstantial evidence that adds up and added to his manipulative capacity it almost deserves a negative tag, but this is definitive for me.

If I don't see a reasonable explanation about it in the next 24 hours I will leave a negative tag in his profile.

Naim027 is not banned at the moment so even if its proven that John Abraham is his alt account (which I think most likely is the case here), its not a case of ban evading, therefore no ban for John Abraham.

Then again, he doesn't even need to get banned as few negative feedbacks will make his account useless for its intended purpose which is earning money via signature campaign.

Now, is an apt time to state (what I have written several times in this forum in the past) that stranger things have happened.

Therefore, how strange would it be for anybody including myself to look at your posting history including the fact you have made a total of just 7 posts using this Saheedu account which was registered on 4th June 2023. Clearly you are not new to this forum as the way know certain things makes it obvious therefore you have the hallmarks of being an alt-account yourself.

Granted you could completely innocent of the example being presented but nevertheless here it is:

Just as naim027 and some of his alt-accounts used to do you too have posted anti-naim027 comments after some of his alt-accounts were exposed and you have also have posted in the Bangladesh board therefore what would stop a compulsive liar and cheat and ban evader such as naim027 using one of his recently created unconnected alt-accounts such as "Saheedu" (which was to be used for farming purposes) to overtly attack his now discovered John Abraham alt-account in the hope of getting a few merits along the way as well as being remembered for being anti-naim027? That would throw others off the scent of Saheedu being a possible naim027 alt-account and it would mean a small sacrifice for him after he has given up on the John Abraham alt-account he can try to rank up another alt-account, it is possible right? Once again, I am not saying that is the case here it is just an example.

As I said, stranger things have happened in this forum and for that reason at least for now your post does not mean much and I definitely do not trust you until your motives and intentions are clearly understood.

After reading some of the history of his posts, you can understand that the John Abraham account must have its own active alt, or else assume that he read the forum without going to it for a long time before he decided to log in.
In the history of April Fools' Contests, he claims to have witnessed the prank while he was away from the forum. But there is the participation of Naim027.
John Abraham remembers in great detail even the order of The Sceptical Chymist's answer, which indicates a very active participation.
If you check, the appearance on the forum of John Abraham was on June 26, 2022, which does not coincide with his participation in the April Fool's drawing.


Please follow carefully:


https://i.ibb.co/GTwjTQ8/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/74cF4tZ)



Does any reader of the forum remember the details of the answers to other people's posts?


naim027 you screwed up ;D

Before, I though for a second about a possibility like the one you have mentioned. I think you have described it perfectly and, answering your question, I think it is not only possible, but quite likely.

Whenever I read sentences like this one:


I think of that wise phrase of the ancient Romans "Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta."

I think he will avoid putting forward a case simple because his every letter and word typed will be examined and evaluated to assess if matches any other account. His John Abraham account was active after I made my post stating intentions to tag but wanted to read his response to the questions. If naim027 does not reply soon with an explanation that proves me wrong, his John Abraham account will be tagged too.

After every interval of several months, naim027 does seem to get some sort if unexpected attention on himself therefore he has himself to blame for the demise of his alt-accounts. As long as these accounts keep getting tagged when they are discovered it means something rather than nothing for those of us who witnessed the ban evasion, cheating, greed, compulsive lying, manipulation and a lot more conducted by naim027 and his alt-accounts.

The fact of the matter is naim027 has been such a manipulative force entailing bad and negativity in this forum that it has caused us to look for the minutest of details in places we would not normally look and that is why there is a shadow hanging over the Saheedu account. Yet had Saheedu remained out of this thread he would have remained anonymous. Unfortunately for him his questionable post and subsequent questions as a result of it have now made him an account to watch too.

I don't think I should tell where I am from as it triggers my privacy. In fact, all your questions triggered my privacy. I am sending him BTC for USD. I saw you have posted a couple of times on their ANN. If you are a player on that platform, you might have seen me there.

I guess all evidence (Paradice staff) is public. Whoever played on that platform from 2020 to Mid 2021 knows "Agent_John" very well.


1- I was selling my Bitcoin for USD.
2- Same reason. There is no reason to withdraw the funds to my wallet and then sell it while I can send funds directly to his wallet for free. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free.

You were advised I would be tagging your account either neutral or negative but would allow you to post a reply to address the points. What you wrote back was not worth writing. To a degree it was almost typical naim027 style posting when he was not elaborating when information was requested. Where was the evidence in your post that was defending your position? You provided none.

I have decided to give your "John Abraham" account a negative tag however if you come back with something more believable I will consider removing/revising my feedback and until/unless then the red tag will stay.

JollyGood, I think you are overreacting. I don't think I did not give you enough evidence. You seem too quick to tag my account without even investigating the information I left for the questions you asked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285347.msg55483764#msg55483764 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285347.msg55483764#msg55483764)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276629.msg55216923#msg55216923 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276629.msg55216923#msg55216923)

This was me when I was working with the company. I feel lucky that I used my name a couple of times while I was handling their representative account. Feel free to ask them at the time when, I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul worked there. After this response, I will not deal with you anymore. The community will judge your negative feedback.

More clearly, cratoon account represents paradice and I was in charge of the account when I worked for them from 2020 to mid-2021

So, you have nothing to defend yourself! 'naim027' is from Bangladesh. And you had also made a post in the local thread of Bangladesh. But the post isn't available now as you have deleted it. Maybe you did it for your privacy :P.


I hope I haven't broken your privacy :D. USD isn't the usable currency in Bangladesh. How are you receiving USD from him and what are you doing with the USD?

We are talking about the transaction of 2023. How have you communicated with 'naim027' recently if you aren't a staff of Paradice now? You have no evidence to post here as you are creating a fake story.

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I can't recall whether I have seen 'Agent_John' on the site or not. I haven't made any deposit on Paradice after my first withdrawal experience (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.msg59494243#msg59494243).

WTF, dude?! You can't really be that stupid?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/Agihw.png
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Cratoon&from=naim027

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/Aggz3.png
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Cratoon&from=AnotherAlt

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/Ag809.png
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Cratoon&to=Crypt0S0ul

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/AgbmN.png
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Cratoon&to=John%20Abraham

If you can prove that - then it's very likely that the accusations about you in this thread can going in different direction. But you don't even prove anything here other than just pretending that the two of you are partners on one of the sites, that's too convoluted for your defense. I believe that every trading transaction between two users has a chat history about fees, price and how to do it, it's not as easy as you send it to the exchange. So I'm sure you do too before the transaction - even the last one, then things could be different.

So why don't you prove it?
Don't say it's also private - this doesn't seem like the right time.

Well, seeing that the explanations he has given are garbage and that he has not answered the central point I was asking before:


I proceed to leave negative feedback to naim027, I mean, John Abraham.

I decided to return here to see the version of story that naim027 aka John Abraham will come up with. I expected a story line that will throw people on this thread into serious confusion. But he failed me and came up with the old colleagues and business partner story.
I am not happy that you keep damaging so many beautiful accounts, while some newbies are just praying for 1 merit.
However, no matter how beautiful an account appears to be, if the personality behind it is a cheat or a liar, it doesn't add anything good to the community.

Some situations doesn't need ban. And moderators also need to be relieved of their responsibilities in some cases and in order not to add to the statistics of banned accounts as lamented by Igebotz.
Negative feedbacks are natural killers of accounts which only earns from signature campaign.
When naim027 was tagged, he was active for a while and slowly died off, same with AnotherAlt and cryptoSoul.

Exactly. His explanation is just pure nonsense.

Pay close attention now:

John Abraham (address: bc1q3652jcryqgy0l38unay7tx69h56a865z6t8ndx (https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/bc1q3652jcryqgy0l38unay7tx69h56a865z6t8ndx)) is sending coins to naim027's address: bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa (https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/bc1q9t788wr0adc4v3t3k8yv02dapn8942qxagrsaa), which belongs to a Binance wallet (https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00013c3cc15f419a) (Binance exchange deposit address unique to each user), claiming that he was selling his BTC for USD. Using the same explanation, he withdraws coins from the Whirlwind mixer to the same Binance deposit address.

Now, let's consider his previous statements:





So, he's all about using Binance exchange "to trade with his locals" and claims he's "forced to use their platform." Alright, fair enough. But here's the head-scratcher: instead of using his own Binance deposit address like a normal person, he decides to send coins to naim027's address. Where is the logic in that? Why would he use someone else's deposit address when he claims to use Binance exchange and has his own account?

Ah, but of course! There's a perfectly logical explanation for all this madness. You see, Binance doesn't allow users to change their assigned deposit address. So, poor John here is "forced" to use the same address as his long-forgotten alter ego, naim027. It's one of those classic cases where circumstances just don't leave you with much choice. Mystery solved! :D

This part of the story makes some sense. I can accept it.

We all send merits to accounts or people we know they are close to us. Whoever is behind the account now, they are or were co-workers. I don't see anything wrong if other co-worker decides to send merits.
Can we have some words from the person who is behind the account Cratoon now?

@John Abraham, do you have something to show us as suggested by _BlackStar?

I am getting lost here. Are suggesting all those are alts managed by naim027 or related to him?


This name rang a bell. Turns out he was involved in an account sale allegation:

topman21 scam my 40$ help me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454820.0)

Let's see how curious.


It seems that our friend John Abraham, I mean naim027 (and I don't know if surely also LDL and many others) was very angry and very nervous when LDL's reputation was attacked. Right after I wrote this:


He wrote this:


I find it very hard to believe that he alone can handle so many alts, but they could all be part of a farm.

I believe that at least LDL does relate to naim027 because of the quotes I put in my previous comment.

I edit to add:


My goodness Ratimov, I am looking closely at the profiles you have posted and everything smells bad, very bad.

The last three accounts, Learn Bitcoin, Bitcoin_people and Dimitri94 follow the typical naim027 pattern, posts in the local Bangladesh forum, pizza contest and WO thread where he knows how to get merits.

LDL is another one that smells very bad, because apart from the accusation of wanting to sell an account mentioned before, he also follows the same pattern: WO thread where he gets merits, pizza baking contest and local Bangladeshi forum.

Shaha98 has a negative tag by yahoo62278 for being a cheater with multiple alts.

Dubaian was banned for plagiarism.

The only one that seems cleaner is Patrol69.

I'm getting the urge to start leaving feedback aggressively.

Well, from what angle you seem to me to be Naim027 or John Abraham's alternative account. You can compare me on their post quality, address connection, or merit exchange. You can't compare their alternatives to me in any way. You can bring more concrete evidence as usual. I can honestly say I don't have any alternative accounts.

I agree with @Poker Player, those accounts seems to be not naim027's alts, but I believe few or all of the accounts are part of another alts. Too bad merit sending to alt accounts isn't deserve to get negative feedback as been pointed by theymos, actually it's an easy way to link alt accounts.

Now I see @John Abraham already get couple of negative feedback from DT members, will the campaign manager kick him? or he will able to keep making money in one of the highest paid signature campaign?

Just want to mention the users who has negative feedback and still not get kicked yet.
Zilon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2862749)
CryptocurencyKing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2701506)

@Ratimov
@Poker Player

Naim027 & John Abraham have presented some important evidence for their alternative account. (Naim027- John Abraham by Bitcoin Transactions with address) (Naim027- John Abraham by same post quality).

But on what basis are you claiming me as their alt?

At this point I am already doubting whether all of these will be his alts, due to my previous post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62398162#msg62398162) in which I have edited to add an analysis of the accounts. If there was one who was caught cheating in the CM campaign and managed 4 alts, of which with 3 he used to make 50 posts a week, if I remember correctly, why wouldn't naim027 be able to manage 6, 7 or 8 alts when most campaigns pay for 25?

I don't think you are blind enough to say I participated in a Pizza contest or Pie Contest or I am a regular in Wall Observer.
I am more into local threads, where I feel more comfortable writing. Merits? I calculated that I got 15 merits from Wall Observer in a lifetime. Check those posts. All of them are typical discussions. Merit farmers don't like the discussion. They post Tweets and Memes to get merits. You are experienced enough to understand what general discussion is and what merit farming is. Being someone's country mate won't make me someone else.

Lol. Rigon who, as I already mentioned, has several neutral feedbacks of negative spirit, and the only one who has left a really negative feedback is me.

I certainly support all your investigation but please ensure that no innocent person should be harmed. Kindly observe my post patterns carefully and necessary all others issues.

Hello Dimitri94. I know you live in Vladivostok, but you wouldn't happen to have a brother who lives in Bangladesh and has selflessly gifted you the account?

Oh good lord!!!!

That's a banger Mahdirakib....well done!!!

Can't wait for another Hello World || Welcome back again! thread.

I am a Bangladeshi native. Moreover, I have many discussions on local board. You can investigate.

I already knew that. Do you know what a sarcasm is?

I might be from Bangladesh. I might not be from Bangladesh. I post on the Italian board too. I might be Italian, I Might not be Italian.

The question doesn't make sense. I got PayPal for my Bitcoin.

I used to talk to him via Telegram, and I still do.

Look. I left Paradice.in mid 2021. I no longer have contact with them. Sil3ntS0ul worked for them till April 2023. After I leave Paradice, Sil3ntS0ul and Seva take over the Paradice representative account. As far as i know, currently, The account is managed by their marketing manager Seva. Paradice.in sponsored 2mBTC prize pool in pumpkin carving contest. I proposed sponsoring the contest to Sil3ntS0ul, who handled the account back then. So, he decides to whom to send merits. I wasn't the only person who got merit from the Paradice account on the pumpkin carving contest. But I got the most. Maybe because he knows me?

You are right, indeed. He always clears the telegram chat after the successful trade. According to him, Bitcoin and crypto trading is banned there, and he doesn't want to keep any evidence. I never felt I should take any screenshots. I have one screenshot I took a few months ago, which I can give you if you want. However, don't you think I have submitted enough evidence to prove that I am an ex-staff of their platform? Those posts I made are not edited. If someone still doubts that I (John) and Sil3ntS0ul are the same people. Why don't they ask their representative account or go to the website and ask their Live support if they had an ex-staff named Agent_John?


So, you are telling me since I have a Binance account, I have to send money to my Binance for PayPal?
I am not the one who will choose where a buyer will receive their crypto.

As far as I know, Currently the account is under their marketing manager Seva. Someone can send him a message in the forum. But, I don't think Seva has any idea whom Sil3ntS0ul sent merits or knows all how the forum works.

I explained above. I can send you too if you want to see it. I got some old screenshots where we both were testing new features and reporting bugs on stage in a telegram group before it launch for production.

I've been wondering for a long time: what are the odds so many users who all write on the same local board (Bangladesh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.0)) are more or less similar in the way they post? Basically, it makes me feel anyone who earns Merit and uses that board could be an alt account. But since all I had was my gut feeling, I had nothing to go on and didn't really want to Ignore an entire country.

If I check John Abraham's Merit history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=2589230), I see many WO-posts, Pizza bake-off contest posts and a few rounds of post reviews from The Sceptical Chymist. It could be a real normal user, but it could also be a very familiar pattern of posting for Merits.

I'm not very fond of asking users for private data, but if John Abraham isn't lying, this would be a good start to prove it.

What are the odds, considering there are 169 million people (https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/bangladesh-population/) in your country?

Is this why you deleted your only post (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6192/61921344.html) on the local board?

In the last one or two years, I always wanted to share most of my smerits with the local board. I haven't counted how many smerits I have shared there but I can assume most of them were. Does that make me alt of them  :D Well, I wanted to encourage quality posts on the local thread. There are a few newbie accounts that are popping up every day almost. Maybe some of them are alts as I can sometimes see similarities in posts but that alone doesn't prove anything, and I don't have a lot of time to investigate them further. However, it's not only Bangladesh, there are a lot of other nations from where people are abusing a lot of alts. We have seen a member with more than 50 accounts.

I can vouch for LoyceV here. John Abraham can send the proofs to LoyceV if he has no issue with trusting him. I believe LoyceV won't abuse any private info.

It was that strange thing which attracted my attention while the case with LDL. He has a couple deleted posts in Italian (https://ninjastic.space/search?author=LDL&board=28&child_boards=true). Well, I thought anyone can speak several languages so it looks strange but not too strange. And what do we see now? You both speak Bangla, English and Italian, you are both mentioned in this topic as possibly alt accounts. I don't blame anyone in anything, but the number of coincidences is growing.

You can. But as I said before, it doesn't make much sense.

Allow me to reiterate a crucial point that I mentioned earlier. Despite your claims of actively using Binance to "trade with your locals," the blockchain data clearly shows that there is not a single transaction from your publicly known wallet address to Binance, except for a couple of transactions to naim027's deposit address.

It's even more baffling that you would choose to send your payouts from the Whirlwind mixer to someone else's Binance deposit address, claiming that it's to save on fees. This doesn't quite add up, considering that internal transactions on the Binance platform are free of charge. So, why go through the hassle and potential risks of involving another person's deposit address when you could easily make the transfer within the Binance platform itself without incurring any fees? It's a puzzling choice, to say the least.

I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced by your statements thus far. You haven't presented any substantial evidence to support your story. Additionally, the fact that you also work as a casino representative and support staff, just like naim027, only further fuels the suspicion that you could be one and the same person. As LoyceV rightly pointed out, the odds of this coincidence are quite remarkable.

It will be difficult to verify any data, especially if Paypal is involved.

Keep the suspense for yourself and the remaining alt-accounts because people in this thread were expecting some sort of valid defence on your part but the more we read about your evasive posts it becomes less interesting to waste more time on the matter.

Writing walls of text in an attempt to try avoiding the obvious is something that will not help you.

Based on screenshots?


And also if it is based on screenshots. If I recall correctly you said yourself that you can trust screenshots only if you trust the user.


He can continue blah blah blahing but there is a scientific principle very suitable for these cases, Ockam's razor: the simplest explanation is the most likely one.

I couldn't find out any connection between those users by observing their Bitcoin address transaction. Maybe they aren't connected. Otherwise, we have to look into some other facts in order to find the connection.

I'm not sure whether 'LDL' is connected with 'naim027' or not. But he knows it very well that how to get merits easily. He had suggested other forum members to participate in Pizza bake-off contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247383.0) to receive merits for rank up.

Translated into English:

But it is strange if a user make posts in multiple local language board and delete them. LDL has also made a post in the local board of Indonesia, and this post is deleted (https://ninjastic.space/search?author=LDL&board=191&child_boards=true) too.

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You aren't from Italy as you have mentioned this in your post, which gives a clear hint that you don't know the Italian language.

Translated into English:

Really! The services of PayPal aren't available in Bangladesh yet. How both of you are dealing through PayPal despite being a citizen of Bangladesh?

I already explained this. I sold my BTC for Paypal. The reason I did not take the withdrawal to my address; instead, I sent it to Naim; At first- it would cost me transaction fees. Withdraw from Whirlwind is free. So I sent him directly to his address. If you look carefully, I did not sell all my BTC every week. Every week I get around 0.0045 BTC. Sometimes I sold 0.0025 and sometimes 0.0035. The rest I took to my own Binance. The reason I did not take it to my trust wallet is this;

I did not know that Trust Wallet is a closed-source wallet. After this post from o_e_l_e_o, I decided not to use Trust wallet. So I transferred the rest to my Binance wallet and sold it for cash.

Don't trust. Verify! Did you see my previous response?  I've made some posts from the Paradice account where I mentioned my name, and those are non edited posts;



However, You are always free to contact them to verify what I am saying. Either via Ticket (https://paradice.in/support); Live Support (https://paradice.in) or their forum account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695987)

Your country? I did not say I was from Bangladesh. I might be from Bangladesh, I might be from Italy. Or I might be from Russia.

I don't have many things to share. Most of the evidence is public. Suppose someone does their research with a positive mind. They will figure it out.

After reading both the OP and the comments of other members, I don't think you really find any good evidence or reason that justifies that John Abraham is not lying.

If you read the OP correctly, then you should ask yourself one question: why did John Abraham send his three-week payment of Yomixer campaign to Naim027? If we agree that it's just a mere P2P transaction for the exchange of Bitcoin to USDT, as Abraham has said, then why did Naim027's wallet start receiving signature payments of John Abraham's of whirlwind.money campaign? That's the question you should ask yourself. If it was just a normal P2P transaction between there two, John can't assign naim027 wallet to his signature payment.

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@John Abraham, Well, just as  Jollygood (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62395312#msg62395312) has said, strange things have happened here and it's even happening, but just that some people still have a carcass well hidden in their cupboard, which can be opened one day. I must say that you are also a member here whom I admire their posting style, but for this drama here, I am short on words. I have been reading this thread carefully, and I saw that the OP here, (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62394094#msg62394094) asked you to provide a proof of your conversation with Naim027 before your first Bitcoin transaction interaction with his wallet, which was the 3-week payment you received from the Yo!mixer campaign, but you have not provided any proof of your chart with him. It's never too long for you not to have the conversation between the both of you, but where is it? For you to say that those your conversation with him via telegram has been deleted by him, is not a very convincing excuse.

I understand that you are selling your Bitcoin to Naim027, but the part I feel so pitiable for you, is why naim027 wallet receives payment for the current signature you had on your account. It doesn't look like you are just selling your Bitcoin to him; otherwise, you will not use his wallet as a replacement for yours to receive your signature payment. For goodness sake, if you are receiving about $120 worth of Bitcoin every week, then what is just a $1 or $2 fee that you cannot spear?

There is this saying in my place that goes like this: "When one finger is stained with oil, it spreads to all the five fingers."

Knowing that Naim027 did not have a clear reputation on this forum because I checked his account and saw he had about 12 tages, you should have been very careful and exempt yourself from interacting with such a user, knowing that if noticed on the forum, it will also tarnish your reputation here. You are more experienced than me, so I believe you should know better than I do.

Like myself, I will even be extremely careful if dealing with any account that has a very bad reputation because I know that since the person is not trusted, it can also affect my reputation in one way or another, and that's why I believe that Naim027 is still your alt account because, if it were not, you would not have to deal with such an account because you know it will affect your reputation if noticed, and you wouldn't want any other users with bad reputations to destroy your own reputation.

To me, this is no coincidence. "When one finger touches oil, it spreads across the remaining four fingers."

I have advised you that it is only necessary to prove a few things instead of beating around the bush. Everything you say will not be believed because you are not presenting any evidence other than just further complicating your problem. If @Naim027 delete the chat because bitcoin is not legal in his country - then what about you? Do you also have the same idea and delete all the chats?

You can prove it here - everyone will judge for himself the truth.

I'm not attacking you just because you made a bitcoin transaction with Naim027 - which basically happened outside of the forum. But considering that Naim027 is a user who has a bad reputation on the forum, so anyone who comes into direct contact with his wallet will be suspected of being an alt. You didn't even engage escrow when transaction with him ^{[especially his bad reputation]} and you likely have some things in common with him - so to defend yourself and your reputation, prove publicly that you are not alt Naim027.

The country isn't important in your case because you can also be from India if I'm not wrong. An Indian actor has same exact name as yours, and that's why you can also be from India. But, the real issue is not your location the real issue is that you sent Bitcoin to naim027's wallet who was banned from the forum. I'm not sure how but I have read many of your replies and considered you very smart in my mind before finding this post, but now I feel strange to know that how someone with such smartness could send his/her Bitcoin payment to a user's wallet who has been tagged by many reputed members of the forum.

I'm not against you or anyone, but unfortunately this time the OP has found the transactions and other users are also sure that you are naim027 alt-account. If you weren't naim027 then you would never send Bitcoin to that guy who was tagged by reputed members for his wrong activities. even someone with little understanding of the things would never ever send Bitcoin to someone's wallet who was banned in this forum and was red-tagged by reputed members of the forum.

I won't say anything more, but if you're innocent then you will get your previous respect from the forum members, but if the users confirm that you're somehow related to naim027 then I'm sorry to say that you'll not be accepted by this community anymore. In this forum, someone who has done ban evasion, will never be accepted, and this time fingers are pointed towards you. If you can prove your self and share as much evidence as you possibly can to prove your claim that you were just sending Bitcoin to the account for trading purpose only.

If we talk about the possibility someone might able to control many alts, it's possible. But I did a blind checking on both LDL and John Abraham profile, mostly about what both of them have doing in this forum, however it doesn't convince me to say they're alts. I'm not yet go in deeper about both of the accounts and I would be more happy if I was wrong.

Let's not forget with the past couple months case where someone using mod WhatsApp (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449784.msg62142452#msg62142452) in order to convince everyone if his story was true.

My man, what kind of answer is that?
You are being accused or being an alternative account of someone which has been caught red-handed cheating the rules of the forum and even deceiving important members of this community. Those evasive answers won't help your case.

If I was being accused of the same things you are being accused of, I would be as transparent as possible, say where I am from what I actually did, why I sent the money and even send all kinds of credible evidence to reputable members of this place, ect. For the sake of your own reputation.  ::)

Does not make sense.

Is anybody really that interested now after the evasive conduct shown by you in this thread?

Well, that sounds very much like something naim027 would write rather than simply post links without having to add to the drama.

The most important thing here thing here is that John Abraham has chosen to be very selective when posting in this thread. First he chose to not over elaborate when questions were asked keeping answers limited and then he chose to do the same when the opportunity to clear his name arose again.

That is his reply and for him that is supposed to make sense because it is designed to misdirect people who are trying to look in to his activities in the forum. You are absolutely correct, he is being accused yet his answers remain evasive and to a degree they are somewhat condescending too.

I assumed it:
I don't know people who learn Bengali for fun, hence the assumption.

If someone would wrongly accuse me, I'd want to clear my name. Your response makes me think you can't do that.

https://ninjastic.space/post/61818297

In a striking resemblance to Naim's modus operandi, a continuous stream of lies, one after another.



It's pretty fascinating how someone who may or may not be from Bangladesh seems to have a bit of a peculiar fascination with the Bangladesh national cricket team. [1] Not to mention that you're apparently also quite familiar with the Dhaka Dominators. [2] Wait, isn't Naim also from Dhaka?

[1] https://ninjastic.space/search?author=John%20Abraham&board=228&content=Bangladesh
[2] https://ninjastic.space/search?author=John%20Abraham&board=228&content=Dominators

Good find! Confirmed (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6181/61818297.html)!
Now we wait for the "I didn't use it at the time" excluse. The problem with lying is that it becomes harder and harder to keep your lies consistent. Being honest is so much easier!

This will be my Reference post for neutral feedback.

'naim027' is trying to insult me by creating this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456344.0) instead of providing the conversation proof from his 'John Abraham' account here. He is also using aggressive words (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456344.msg62406340#msg62406340) towards me. The fun fact is that 'John Abraham' hasn't made any post in the forum yesterday as he spent his whole day (from 'naim027' account) to create a thread about me.

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Thanks to those forum members who dug out the post history of 'John Abraham' to prove his lying behaviour. Apart from the evidence of the main post, here are few more posts which proves that 'John Abraham' is a serious liar and connected to 'naim027':

• He knows everything about the 'April fools' despite being inactive in the forum on the previous year (posted by lovesmayfamilis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62395451#msg62395451))
• Merit trading activity (posted by decodx (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62396561#msg62396561))
• Said fake story about PayPal even though he is using Binance to sell his BTC (posted by FatFork (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62397069#msg62397069))
• Lying about the usage of PayPal (posted by decodx (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62407815#msg62407815))

The timing of the thread that naim027 created (to attack you) was highly suspect and it failed to divert from the core subject: Evidence heavily suggests John Abraham is an alt-account operated by naim027

Granted over the months since naim027 and his known alt-accounts were discussed he has tried to change his writing style a little but it does not cloud enough to add to any uncertainty that might be there. If he already spent most of yesterday using his naim027 account to attack you then I think he will soon give up on the the John Abraham account and concentrate on whatever alt-accounts he currently operates.

That's how I got linked with my girlfriend's account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=911416) (uberLOL)--blockchain evidence only, by the forum snoops.  I didn't deny it, even though I wanted to keep the account a secret just to keep the extremely off-color humor going. 

A'ight, back to the issue at hand:  I tripped and stumbled across this thread because John Abraham requested a post history review, and one of his most recent posts was in it.  I haven't read through everything yet but will do so after I go run some errands; I just want to know what the general community sentiment is about the accusation.  I did look through the first few posts, and it definitely looks like enough evidence to link the accounts.  There's no fakkin' way I'm handing out any merits to an alt account of someone who got banned for plagiarism and then tried to evade the ban.  I just want to be reasonably sure before I make a decision.

Oh lol, that is a nice find and yet another nail in his coffin. I am sure that he will find explanation for that as well, something like "I didn't use PayPal at the time post was written but now I do" or something along those lines.

Since he became pretty decent at merit farming (tbh it became much easier in the last year or so than it was before) I am pretty sure that this is not he last time we head about one of the naim027 alt accounts.

I can see John Abraham's profile has two negative feedbacks and another two apparently neutral but saying that they don't trust him, so it does look likely that John Abraham is an alt account of that guy or someone not to trust.

Be careful with requests to review post histories because although you mean well, and you helped me to rank up with my main account with a review, it has also been commented on in the thread that he may have many other alts or be part of a farm, which have several things in common: posting on the local Bangladesh forum, in the Wall Observer thread and having participated in the pizza contest.

So you're using this account to do what, exactly?  And I don't suppose you'll reveal your main account, but if I'm wrong I'm very curious.  But yes, I realize I might be helping some alts to rank up and I've said as much to some members--no one who offers to review posts would know who's an alt of who unless it had already been made public, but I have been in the situation of having given a lot of merits to members who turned out to be malicious alts or plagiarists or what have you, and it sucks.

Got back from my errands, read the rest of this thread, and there's enough evidence for me to conclude that John Abraham is an alt of naim023, and I'm going to tag him after I write this for evading a ban and wasting my time and sMerits.  I'm usually suspicious of accounts that consist of a western-sounding first and last name, and I should have heeded that suspicion last time I did a review for him.  Ugh.

One of the few who does not hide his alternative account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1107222
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3536303
https://i.ibb.co/tmSZ0tn/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/tmSZ0tn)

LMAO. My maing account is Don Pedro Dinero, you have known me for years  ;D.

As the other colleague has shown, I do not hide my main account.

Nor have I hidden my intentions with this account, I have made them explicit from the beginning in the following thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440853.0

You can use any online translator if you are curious.

What exactly naim027 did was pushing the boundaries by being a chief manipulator as well as a compulsive liar but the matter did not stop there. The fact his ban was removed and then not banned again (after he started his nonsense again) is a failure by the moderators.

I remember how bad you felt when it was discovered the number of merits you awarded naim027 and his alt-accounts, especially after he wrote to you asking for you to review his post history.

I wonder why he would ask for you to review the post history on the John Abraham account when he was already participating in the highest paying signature campaign (whirlwind), maybe it was a mistake on his part to do that as he was already a Snr Member with 500+ merits and had no immediate need to try to rank up with urgency as it would have happened by itself over time. Strange.

If you are sure that the account Dimitri94 belongs to the person who runs the account naim027, then it is also safe to say that naim027 is from Bangladesh. I found the email address ardiandimitri8@gmail.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379290.msg58868223#msg58868223) in Dimitri94's posts and decided to see what a Google search of that address would give me. And it gave me a link to a Linkedin profile of a certain Ardian Dimitri, who just lives in Bangladesh.

Face plastered over in terms of privacy. Whoever needs it can easily find this profile.


It's just my guess.

Look JollyGood. I have had enough of it already. I kept my answer as simple as possible. I don't think I could satisfy them with all I have. I don't want to answer all those nonsense questions anymore. Repeating the same thing over and over won't change the situation.

Look, think about it from my side. I have been dealing with him for ages now. I met him in a casino while I was a Customer support agent. I started working on paradice.in from 2020. He joined the platform at the end of 2020 or the start of 2021 (I don't remember exactly). We have been good friends and co-workers at the same time. I used to take a loan from him. I got a loan from him plenty of times. I exchange my BTC for PayPal. Sometimes PerfectMoney. I never felt I should take a screenshot. Back then, I was not that much active in the forum. Moreover, I was handling Paradice.in the Official BitcoinTalk account, which is cratoon. In 2021, I resigned from Paradice.in because I fought with the CEO about salary payments. I handed over their BitcoinTalk account to their Manager, Tomal (Seva). Then Seva and Sil3ntS0ul (naim027) were in charge of their BitcoinTalk account.

He usually gave me his Binance PayID if my funds were in Binance. But, When I send my funds from my other wallets, I ask for his address. I knew he was banned from the forum. But I never checked if the address was shared in this forum. Who uses their exchange wallet address these days to receive payments regularly? Moreover, I am not the one who will select which address the other party will choose to receive payment. It's not my concern.

If you notice carefully, I earned more than 0.0045 BTC each week. But, I did not sell that all. Most of the time, I sold 0.0025 or 0.0035. The rest amount I withdraw to my own wallet. I would have withdrawn the total amount to his address if I were him. Not 0.0025.

Unfortunately, Paradice management is silent about this. I am pretty much sure they know about this situation. It would have been great if they could come and talk.

According to Sil3ntS0ul, The thread Creator (Mahdirakib) have contact with Paradice manager Tomal (Seva). I am curious why he doesn't ask Seva and tell everyone what they say to him.

How do you know I learned Bengali? A translated post won't make you native in any language.


So, You are telling me; If I said I don't use Payoneer in the past, I should not use that for the rest of my life. Isn't it?


How stupid a question it is. My Username is Indian. I have posted many times about IPL. Does it make me Indian?
I posted many times that I am a crazy cricket guy. Knowing about some tournaments is not an odd thing for a cricket fan. If you post about La Liga, it won't make you Spanish.

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Bois!

Apart from Yomix campaigns earning selling,

I was in Whirlwind Campaign for eleven weeks!
In Eleven weeks, I earned $1375 from the signature campaign.
I first sold him BTC from the Whirlwind website on the 6th week, and I sold 0.0035 BTC while I received more than 0.0045 That week.
7th, 8th and 9th weeks, I sold him 0.0025 BTC each week while I received more than 0.0045 BTC every week.

The total sold amount to him is around $278 from the Whirlwind website.
Why would I sell $278 from $1375 earnings if I were him? Why not take all the money?

I sold my Yomix-earned money to him and then did not sell him anything for the next 6 weeks. I was taking my funds to my own wallet.
From the 6th to the 9th week, I sold him a partial amount of my earnings and the rest I took to my own Binance.

Think logically. I don't have to disclose my private data to prove that we are not the same person. You will eventually find it if you do your own research with a positive mindset. I am asking you repeatedly, Why don't you guys talk to paradice manager or Admin, where I worked for over a year?

Instead, You guys are forcing me to reveal my private data.

Yeah, I was probably thinking of that exact case when I wrote what I wrote, because I think it was the last time it came to my attention that I gave merits to someone I shouldn't have--but I know it isn't the only instance. 

As to why he would ask me for more merits....reputation-building, perhaps?  And though he's in the highest-paying sig campaign he is 'only' a Sr. Member and I assume Whirlwind pays more for Hero/Legendary members, and even if they don't other campaigns do, so wanting to rank up and increase his available sig space makes sense.  Usually the motives around here come down to money, just as they do in the real world.

When Royse777 had naim023 on his team when he was building the Casino Critique site, I never had an issue with the latter.  It was only after he started all the drama with him at the center that he became a problem in my mind, i.e., when he got banned.  You've got a much better memory about these things than I do, but I don't recall ever having a personal problem with naim023 (back then, anyway).  I'll be following this situation and will be more vigilant with my merit-giving in the future, at least to the extent that I can identify alts.

Ugh.

This photo shows a model from the Russian modeling agency Lumpen, which suggests that the LinkedIn profile is fake.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/16/HuNw5.jpeg
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/style/gallery/russian-modeling-agency/index.html

No one has said it here, but the interesting part is that you sold BTC to 'naim027' (your alt) two times before the 25th February, and took the payment in USD on PayPal. Where you said in your 25th February post that you don't use PayPal (pointed out by 'decodx' already (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62407815#msg62407815)). You are proving yourself as a liar on your every post now.

True, it is difficult to argue with that point, as far as members within the forum is concerned it does in most cases come to money just as it would in the real world. Ranking up to Legendary would be the ultimate goal as those ranks to in some campaigns earn more than Snr Member and Hero rank but why risk asking for posts reviews when maybe the one doing the reviewing might connect the style of writing with another member? Maybe it is just him believing he will not get caught out.

Well, maybe your memory is not that good if you keep mentioned naim027 as naim023. We all know he had (and probably still has) many alt-accounts but from him to jumping from 027 to 023 would seriously insulting our collective intelligence  ;D

Well, this is another interesting point.

The problem with liars (especially compulsive liars such as naim027) is that they end up digging a hole too deep they cannot climb back out of it. One lie leads to another and then another and then another and then it snowballs in to something much bigger, so big that the chief architect of the lies forgets what he said and to whom as well as where he mentioned the lies.

Yeah, but in this case it wasn't me who caught him.  I think I may have discovered an alt or two when doing post history reviews, but as I said my memory is shot (or I'm just not retaining that kind of info like I used to).  It's been quite some time since I actively researched bought/hacked accounts or tried to connect various accounts as alts.  2018 was probably the year I got burned out on doing so, and I'm glad others are still active in sniffing out the cheaters.

LOL.  Thanks for pointing that out; my mistake was from a misreading of his name or going by a flawed memory.  I will duly note his true username and try not to forget.  :)

So you are telling us that you don't know Bengali? Interesting. Where did you get this screenshot from?


I'm no expert, but it looks Bengali to me.


No. I'm telling you that you claimed not to have PayPal AFTER your alleged transaction with naim027. Which means you lied in at least one of your two statements.


You may have taken your name from a famous Indian actor, but your username is certainly not Indian.


No one's forcing you to do anything. If you don't feel like sharing your private information publicly, you can choose to involve trusted community members like LoyceV who can verify the evidence you provide.

I'd say that no private data can prove anything in this case. Which data can it be? KYC? First it is against the basic ideas of true crypto. Second it can be easily falsificated. What else?

I don't think we should burden any respectable forum user with any private data of anyone else, especially when there is no vision of how it can prove anything. First we have to be sure that that sensitive information can significantly help but even then we can only think if we can ask someone to help with that, and the one who can probably be asked have all grounds for refusal.

Including me? No - I'm not forcing you to reveal private data, but I'm just hoping that you can disprove some of these allegations with some evidence. One of the proofs that I expect from you for defense is posting your telegram chat history with Naim027 especially when making transactions - but until now you keep avoid it and haven't been able to prove it.

John - this is not the best way to solve your problem but most of us firmly believe that you are Naim027.

I totally agree with what you're saying. The thing is, this guy hasn't really given us any solid evidence or tried to refute any of the points made against him. We've been waiting and waiting, but nothing!

Maybe he's worried about giving away his personal addresses or showing his blockchain transactions. But hey, we're not asking for his life story here, just some basic evidence to back up his claims. Without that, it's hard to take him seriously.


He said: "Think logically. I don't have to disclose my private data to prove that we are not the same person. You will eventually find it if you do your own research with a positive mindset."
So, I just try to think logically and with a positive mindset.



Exactly! It does seem quite convenient that naim027 has kept a record of the entire chat history with Mahdirakib, especially if there's some tension between them after the exposure of his previous alt accounts. But he conveniently deleted all the chat messages he supposedly had with John Abraham? It's definitely raising some eyebrows. Or, for example, he claims to have sent a portion of the earnings from signature campaigns to his personal Binance account, but he has not shown a single transaction of this kind on the blockchain. If there's nothing to hide, why not share ALL the evidence?

is that people spend too much time analyzing what they say and trying to dismantle their lies.

At the moment naim027 has 3 red tags in his alt that we are talking about in this thread. I'm sure little by little some more negative feedback will be added. The question is, how long will his manager keep him in the signature campaign? Lately it seems that he doesn't kick people out for a couple of red tags.


Account strength building globally, I would say, because he already has enough merits for Hero member.

Now he is in the whirlwind campaign but if in the future the campaign ceases or whatever, if he is in the top merit earners he could access Royse777's campaigns that have the green zone, with similar payout, or custom deals.

You don't seem to understand that creating a smoke screen with hypothetical answers instead of providing clear answers doesn't make you look any better. Unless of course the accusations are true, in that case all you're doing is delaying the inevitable.

And there's this:

Don't worry, he has been kicked since his username is deleted starting from the current round whirlwind.money Signature Campaign (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EE3BFZ8ovfSbYpOlGKUH3Ft3xJCPtkXAyMcjzo2cXgY/edit#gid=1187650292), so your and other DT feedback are working.

Since all of his busted alt accounts weren't able to participate in any campaign, watch out we might see another new alt soon :D

I think it's related with posting to get paid or bounties, I've seen few people using Google translate to post on someone local board and there's no problem about that. But this is not to defend naim027 lol, the other proofs of multiple transactions and discuss about Bengali team in cricket are really suspicious.

The name John Abraham has been removed from the spreadsheet since this current week began therefore he is no longer on the Whirlwind campaign.

The distance between Hero and Legendary ranks is huge and he was just about at Hero range with 500+ merits as long as he reached the correct Activity.

The part that confuses me is that since he was not in a position to become Legendary rank any time soon and he was also on his way to become Hero in due-course by simply remaining active (as he reached the 500 merits threshold), I cannot understand what was there in benefit for naim027 to ask for his John Abraham account to be reviewed for more merits.

I can understand it most probably would be account strength in the hope of getting more merits for when he took the account to Legendary but why would he do it now when he is far from that goal?

I think the answer to this is very simple he did all of these simply because of Greed.

A liar and a cheat will never be satistified with what they have and will always seek more even if it involves deceiving others to get what they want.

What would you say to forum members (including myself) that are very much of thought that you are another accounts by naim027 and that you are making these comments to display a sign of anti-naim027 for misdirection and smokescreen purposes? Is there anything you can say that will give members any confidence in your conduct?

I am not sure why that surprises you so much, that someone who is far away from Legendary rank (activity wise) wants to reach that 1k merit mark asap, or that he wants to keep farming merit. I mean, we all know more merit earned in 120 days often means better signature campaign so its only natural for account farmer to keep on farming merit in every possble way he can, and he became pretty decent at that. 

Now I see the reason for my tag, I noticed it few days ago and ignored it, if I was connected to the cheater, liar and deciever what on earth am I going to say that will change your perception towards me? It will only sound like a noise to your ears so why should I complain about it?

This account has earned just one merit and form my activiteness you should have figured out that I have no interest in building an account my main concern was about mining and I thought I could earn by using free electricity but was later set straight be forum members on how unethical that is.

If you think I would go around like those sissy to create a thread on why I was given a neutral, that's not going to happen I ain't no simp and couldn't careless on what you think about my account It is a forum and everyone is free to think what they like but one thing is sure even if  get a million tags for something I don't know I don't bother myself because I am sure Karma knows how to handle situation like this.

Feel free to change it to blood, you know what I mean. ;D

I left the tag but as it is neutral, it's not going to have any consequences. I simply don't knowif you are another alt of naim027, but your previous post in this thread makes me suspicious of what motives you may have. You say you were interested in mining and such but naim027 I see him capable of creating countless alts and making up millions of stories, one of which could be that.

For the rest, as I say nothing happens because of the neutral tag and if you are interested in using this forum well even less.

JollyGood gave your first merit btw so take that as positive.

Hello.
I am Seva from Paradice.in
Naim sent me a DM asking me to say something here.
I can only say that Naim and John worked for Paradice.in
John resigned on 26th March 2021. While Naim worked with us till 5th May 2023.
Both handled our BitcoinTalk profile. John handled our profile from 2020 to 2021, and Naim handled it from 2021 to 2023.
Naim asked me at least to say that they worked for us. Yes, they worked for us, and we never suspected they could be the same person. During their working time, they worked at different times while our support agents tried not to overlap.

Basically, you can't really say for sure if both accounts on the bitcointalk forum are controlled by the same person or not? If you think back and recall the interactions you had with them, is it possible that they could be the same individual?

The evidence presented by forum members in this thread, linking the two accounts, appears to be indisputable. Do you have any evidence that contradicts this conclusion?

It means Paradice team never verified who is working behind Naim (naim027) and John (John Abraham) account. It doesn't prove they are two different people as their working time was different. Because, 'naim027' has the history of taking benefits from the forum signature campaign with some alt accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864.msg61117985#msg61117985) while his main account was banned for plagiarism. Maybe he did the same thing on Paradice with two different names.

We don't know who is actually working behind the Paradice representative account at this moment, but 'naim027' has played a dirty game with the account when he had access to it. 'naim027' has traded merits with his alt accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62396561#msg62396561) from the Paradice representative account. He has put your account at risk too.

the forum change to be the actor's forum where at the end of the game the member received an Oscar.

is it possible from 3 million members forum, originally only 50 members, with all kinds of alt?

the doctoral candidate will research this for the thesis, and possibly all data will open in 1 exchange.

How interesting.


It's funny how people confess to crimes and don't realize it. Not exactly a crime but a clear violation of the rules. I mean, when naim027 was banned for plagiarism, not only ban evaded with his alts AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, also with Paradice.in account Cratoon.


Hi, naim027, do you want us to believe that you only managed that account up to a month ago?

Not talking about any of the accounts but in general.

How interesting to read it that your brain is malfunctioning!
That official account of Paradice.in is not someone personal property. It's representing a business. If any account of that business is ban then we can consider other accounts (if available) of the business were ban evading. An employee is not the business, a business is not the employee.

Royse777 is my personal account and CasinoCritique is the business account representing the project casinocritique.com (handled by other members too).
For some reason if Royse777 is banned, how many will say CasinoCritique is ban evading? There can be another situation too. For some reasons if the casinocritique account receives a temp ban then do you think Royse777 will ban evading?

It's not.


If your account is banned and CasinoCritique's account comes to tell us that when you were banned you were managing CasinoCritique's account, then CasinoCritique was ban evading. All this added to the fact that you were also ban evading in the same period with at least two other alts. And if you send merits back and forth from Royse777's account and other alts to CasinoCritique, then you are merit abusing.

And by the way, I forgot one thing. If I find out that in CasinoCritique is naim027 as a member of the team or someone who has 11 red tags, I will red tag the account. One bad apple spoils the basket.

It still is malfunctioning.

Reference (Still malfunctioning)

Full disclosure: There are few other malfunctioning brains like you and they may agree with you.

CasinoCritique is not Royse777's (your) account.

Let me try to explain it a bit better to you.
I am (the person behind Royse777 right now) temp banned for 14 days. CasinoCritique is the account representing casinociritique.com. People handling casinocritque are: I, Mr. X, Mr. Y.

During my ban. Mr. X posted something, Mr. Y posted something and I also posted something too.

Since your brain is malfunctioning, you are going to say Royse777 is ban evading.
The answer is not going to be straight forward.

If casinocritique was not representing casinocritique.com but it was representing Royse777 then casinocritique was breaking rules.

Is that a threat you are giving? Find out with proof. Like do KYC, video conference or just STFU.
You don't decide an entire team by the action of one team member.

This time I'll let you do the name calling. I'm not going to do the same.


Whoever is behind it as the person ultimately responsible must ensure that this does not happen, and if he lets it happen, he is allowing ban evading. And I don't care if the account is run as a commune or cooperative with no maximum responsible, they are as responsible as the individual person who is ban evading.

Explain why you brought naim027 in the discussion while I was giving a general view without specifying any of the accused account?

Oh one thing you need to know.
Naim027 works on updating my spreadsheets. One of the many team members in 💹📈 Bitcointalk Campaign Management 💪🔥 Signature & Bounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328445.0)

Some roles that my team members play in the campaign management.
ANN management
Spreadsheet checking
Graphic Designing
Telegram moderation
Content creation
Translation
For each of the jobs I have several people who work to ensure quality service, 24/7 customer service etc. One Naim027 is just a part of the 8 to 10 people who work all the time for campaign management.

I am waiting for you to tag me now because I employed Naim027.
Be my guest.

Shut up!

It doesn't looks weird for you why John and Naim work on the different time frame? although I'm not really sure why John resigned on 2021 when he doesn't link his reputation in this forum. As long as they only work via online and they never met you in real life, it's not a solid evidence to say both of them are different person.

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Anyway are we talking about John Abraham ≈ naim027 or Cratoon ≈ John Abraham ≈ naim027 or Royse777 ≈ Cratoon ≈ John Abraham ≈ naim027 now? ;D

You really think I have time for signature spamming, account farming and all these shits?

Sure. Right on top, as you like so much. I'm just going to wait a bit.


You mean that when he was banned, apart from working for CasinoCritique he was also working for you?


That's the argument you have to counter what I say?

Are you saying I like it so much or I said it somewhere (about like and dislike)?
Make sure you are using appropriate reference for it. Why not create a new topic to make a proper reference? Why wait?
Let me guess, you are going to have a meeting with your friends and then all of you will come together at once with your BS arguments.


Nain027 works for campaign management and is a team member like many others. Isn't it should be enough for you? Why anything else matters?
I don't have to tell you who I am employing, when I am employing. I am conducting an dependent business and right now I have many clients and forum members who participated my campaigns, they will rate me. If I ask a group to rate my business then I don't think overall it will bring a bad rating if not 5 out of 5 (although you tried many times in the past to approach my clients and convinced them not to hire my service because you have low moral).

Do you think I give a shit?

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We are off-topic. It's now why I employed naim027, is Royse777 taggable? - Type of topic. Go a create a new topic about it. You will have me there.

If a killer is working in a grocery store and that grocery store doesn't provide assassination service then that grocery store is not responsible for what its employee is doing outside the store.

When you represent some organisation but not as an owner, you are not representing yourself. So when you use some corporate belongings this doesn't make those belongings yours. Including corporate account. If that account wasn't used in personal purpose it doesn't matter who was behind the scene in any exact moment. Because it was an organisation not a person.

If you'll make an organisation responsible for investigating if their employee hasn't ever been banned on the forum they'll prefer not to work in here at all, because it is nonsense. Their account is representing them, not their employees, who can be changed multiple times during company work.

What types of business? Is it sole proprietorship, or perhaps a self-employed person?? A partnership? Limited Liability Company (LLC)? Corporation?  :D


So, you're saying that someone who gets banned can easily create a new account, pretend to represent a fictional (or real) business, and continue using the forum without any consequences? It seems you overlooked the fact that the Cratoon account was active across multiple boards and forum threads, not solely limited to discussions about Paradice casino. Additionally, there is evidence of a merit hunt in the WO thread, where the user received a significant number of merits from his alt accounts (naim027 and AnotherAlt), and sent them to build his other alt accounts (Crypt0S0ul and John Abraham). That can't be right, can it?

I think "ban evasion" is a very simple forum rule. This is how I understand it, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong: If one of your accounts is banned, you, as an individual, are no longer allowed to use this platform, regardless of who you represent or work for. The ban applies to the person, not just the account.



That's exaggerated to the point of absurdity. But, if the owner of a grocery store is aware that one of their employees is involved in criminal activities, including being a killer, and fails to report them to the authorities, they bear responsibility as it is their legal obligation to do so. In such a scenario, as a customer, would you feel comfortable patronizing such a grocery store?

I agree 100% with what you say decodx.


Here is the crux of the matter.

When I have time I will answer you in the other thread, Royse777, my friend.  :D

I did not check anything about Cratoon account except found out that it's representing a casino. So if you are talking about Naim027 or AnotherAlt or Crypto0S0ul or John Abraham or anyone else or any other account - nothing is my concern. I am not into that discussion. I even starting with saying that it's in general. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62421371#msg62421371) I am trying to make a sense why it was so easily overlooked.

It's not that I don't know how a ban works to a person. Instead of making the font bold for me, do it for some newbie who needs your teaching.

Why it's hard to understand. Isn't it self-explaining, assuming this is your reference for the argument.

Here is my interpretation:
Account x is owned by person a, he is the sole owner of the account.
Account y is owned by a company or business, it represent a business, a group of people, we have no idea who created it and who is handling it but it's representing a single entity and "Mr a" is one of them.

Your rule does not say anything about account y can not be used by "Mr a" as a part of the group.  It says a person can not use or create another account and the interpretation is for his own personal account/s. In example cases we have seen all these were, their own personal accounts.

Forget about the rules, how a business account can be treated as a personal account where it's obvious that the business account was not handled by the single person who was accused to have a ban on the forum?

Show me which new account is pretending to represent a fictional business and continue using the forum?

My friend? No, thank you.
You don't have the quality, status to consider you in my friends circle. You are a low moral pathetic individual. It's better for you if you stay out of my business.

But 'naim027' had used the Paradice representative account as his personal property by exchanging merits with his alt accounts. Don't you think it was offensive? Or you will consider it as a part of the business. Seems like you weren't aware of the merit trading history of 'naim027' which he did with the Paradice representative account.

This topic was created to find more evidence between 'John Abraham and 'naim027' account. But some other users are trying to risk their reputation by taking the side of the professional liar (naim027) by ignoring the evidence.

To clarify some things, John has been working with us since 2020 and resigned on March 2021. Naim worked for us from 2020 to 2023, and we had to remove him.

While we don't want to reveal anyone's nationality, John Speaks the native local languages of mine and the CEO.

John was getting more than 3x Salary than Naim when he resigned. It's not a good business for someone to leave the high-salary job and continue doing the same job for a 3x low salary. I don't think John could be Naim.

I have no idea if Naim was banned and if he has multiple accounts. I asked him today, and he said yes, he has. I am not an expert on Bitcointalk. We hire workers for their job. We don't know their personal life. This is non of our business being a crypto casino.

I am here on request of Naim. I am not here to prove anything. I just gave my statement, and it's official. If you don't believe me, I am sorry. I don't have time to convince anyone.

I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of the forum (not mine) rule. (Again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445288.msg61930849#msg61930849)).

The rule specifically states that you cannot "use or create accounts" as long as one of your accounts is banned. I don't see what is not clear and open to interpretation. Nowhere is the distinction made between "personal" accounts and "business" accounts. I don't know where you got that from.

So, if account X (owned by person X) is banned, then person X is not allowed to manage company Y's account (or any other account) on this platform. The ban evasion rule would not make any sense otherwise.

But, I'd still appreciate hearing more opinions from other senior members or moderators regarding this matter. After all, anyone can make a mistake and misinterpret a rule, just like you have done in the past.



I'll get back to this later because I need some time to gather references.

Understand that my statement was not for naim027, nor for the casino account. I don't want to engage with forum users personal issues with each others. Did you read that I did not look at that Cratoon account?


Keep me excluded however I don't thinking if anyone is defending anyone will result others to risk their reputation. Where did you get that theory?

In theory: If anyone ask me to recommend Nain027 if he add me on his CV for reference then I don't think I am going to tell them anything negative as he worked very well in my business. I have no complain for the job he does for my service.

Edit:

That does not mean I have to agree with your interpretation.
The ban evasion rule only make sense for accounts that is in use for personal reason - when it's personal accounts.

PS: For a moment I thought I was answering the same person in this post instead of you and OP.

Oof. This guy obviously has no problem lying to anybody at any given time -- I'd think that would weigh on your decision to act as a reference for him. What would happen in the case that you vouched for him and then he went on to screw over a future employer?


Funny how this turned out to be somewhat prophetic:


I am certain he has more accounts currently at work but he'll be a bit more clever in masking them from hereon out.

The main thing in here is IF. If the owner of grocery store is involved in a crime anyhow it should be proved. Otherwise demanding from a project to watch their employees is contrary to a person's right to privacy. I don't want any my employer to shadow me.


It looks inappropriate but until proven that the owners of Paradice took part in that, we can consider that they are victims in this story also. Because naim027 used their corporate account for personal goals.

I don't know if Paradice are actively involved in this case anyhow but as for now I don't see any direct proofs that they are. If they did anything wrong as a project it should be proven, not just saying that one of their employees did something wrong when was working for them.

I'm wondering why are you making post here on the request of 'naim027' if you don't have anything to prove! It doesn't matter here what you think without any evidence. Haven't you noticed that 'naim027' has risked your account by exchanging merits with his alt?

I just read your previous reply and noticed that you weren't aware of the merit trading activity which 'naim027' did with 'Cratoon' account.

The second part of the quote was for Paradice representative account, and the theory is merit trading. 'Cratoon' is still making posts on behalf of or on the request of 'naim027' even though he was informed that what 'naim027' did.

Since you already confirmed the suspected alt accounts have had access to this account in the past, who's to say they're not behind it now?

That's one of the risks of sharing an account with multiple people: you're all liable for anything done with that account. And if it gets banned, I'd say it applies to all alt-accounts that also used the same "shared" account.

Full disclosure: I think I'm one of them :P Or else it may be you :P

If you (the banned guy sitting behind your keyboard in this scenario) posts using the "shared" account, you're guilty of ban evading (which deserves a permanent ban).

It may get more complicated if not you, but some of the other people used the "shared" account. But considering how difficult it would be to prove that, it's much safer not to use the "shared" account at all if either one of the users with access is banned.

It doesn't matter who you (claim to) represent: bans are personal, they're not limited to an account, but to a person. If I'd get banned, I wouldn't be allowed to create an alt and then say I represent the pope. I think you completely misunderstood how bans on Bitcointalk work.

Bitcointalk doesn't offer "business accounts". It's very simple: when you're banned, you're obviously also not allowed to use someone else's account. Just to be sure, let's ask the author of the unofficial forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg62422742#msg62422742) (I now want to know who gets to have "malfunctioning brains" as personal text).

Well, okay, let's imagine for instance that Tether comes to the forum and opens its topic to share news and answer questions. They hire one representative after another and this goes on for some time. Then it's revealed anyhow that one of those guys they hired was a ban evader during he worked for Tether as their representative. So we say that it was a violation (it was, I don't say wasn't) so we ban an official account of Tether for ban evasion. Moreover it is not an account banned it is a person behind it banned so Tether is forever banned from using this forum. Moreover we find somehow all people who worked for Tether during that time (at least all who worked with that account after ban evader) and we ban also them because they worked in an offending account, and also ban them forever.

You know, maybe it is how all the things are really go on, but if so it looks so wrong! Right because the person is banned from the forum and not an account.

And after all we ask, why projects decide to represent themselves on the forum much less frequently than previously. And really, why?

My interpretation doesn't require your agreement to be valid. Bitcointalk.org strives to embrace a free-speech-maximalist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386688.msg59322057#msg59322057) approach, and that's its charm - everyone has the right to be delightfully wrong!


Nope. For that to apply, moderators would have to go through the entire account history and evaluate each individual post to see if it was made for personal or business reasons. Obviously, that would be impossible.



For this very reason, adopting such an approach to manage business presence on the forum is flawed. Right now, the forum platform doesn't have the option to create official business profiles like some other platforms do, for example Facebook. So, each account is tied to one person and should ideally be used by just that person. But that doesn't mean businesses can't have more than one representative or staff member on the forum. Each of them can maintain their own accounts and contribute to official threads or answer questions. If one of them gets banned for breaking the rules, the rest are in the clear, and the business presence remains intact.

I know at least one reason why having an additional account for each new representative is not so good idea: you lose an opportunity of editing the first post and so you need to leave it as is even if there are some important updates or to open a new topic for each representative even if they will change each month.

Now back to actual topic. I'm already confused about the exact name of the project in which naim027 worked, Cratoon or Paradice, doesn't matter. If he never said that, we'd never know who was behind the scenes.

So we have two opportunities: or the mentioned project is a part of the group of naim027 and it would be good to prove that. Or he just framed them revealing information about his job. In the second case I don't think it is fair to punish a project.

That's the opposite case, and I guess it can be handled on a per-case basis. What Royse777 was suggesting is that a banned user can continue posting using Tether's account. I don't think that's allowed.
Or maybe Tether in this case should just be held liable for their employees' spam, and be banned forever. I wouldn't miss them.

The Whirlwind signature campaign pays $125 with avatar for Snr Members and it moves to $150 for Legendary therefore I overlooked the crucial part. No doubt it would probably be the driving factor in this game of building up as many accounts as possible to be farmed to be used for either signature campaigns or for nefarious purposes.

A timely intervention from you therefore thank you for doing it (even if it was at the request of naim027) but all you have added by your own volition is that as far as you are concerned naim027 and John Abraham could effectively be the same person.

Another timely intervention from you once again at the request of naim027. In your opinion naim027 and John Abraham are not alt-accounts, we read it.

The way naim027 and his alt-accounts have been operating in the forum, it seems at some point highly probable (if not inevitable) naim027 and his alt-accounts will do something like that but stranger things have happened.


Now that it is there in pixels on screen who can deny he ever said it? Having said that he is a compulsive liar and chief manipulator therefore would naim027 really stop at 100 alt-accounts or was he bluffing and would happily stop at 5,10 or 15?

In which sense does it look like this is a screenshot? It might be. But I don't know if this is a screenshot. I don't remember the page/group name, but I found it from a Facebook group/page.

You are twisting it. I believe you understand the difference between "Don't have PayPal and Don't use PayPal". I don't use PayPal Regularly. I use it for some special needs!


I feel like you wrote it with a positive mindset. I won't mind sharing something with you personally. Expect my dm after posting this.

I don't know if I have answered you in any of my posts yet. But I saw the tag you left on Paradice's official representative account. What makes you think your tag correctly uses the feedback system? The account has been in Naim's and Seva's control since I left Paradice in 2021. Paradice management is not active in this forum. Moreover, Seva said he had no idea if Naim was banned from the forum. So, ask yourself if your tag is justified or not.

Do you really think an Entire business platform will try to defend their ex-staff unless they just state the truth? Do you think a platform would risk its reputation lying in the forum? They have paid $7000 to a faucet abuser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5325305.0) to regain their reputation. Yet you are trying to say a platform is lying in the forum to defend their ex-staff?


I don't think they check the replies. I would ask; does this forum account still always stay logged in after changing the password? I don't know. I haven't tried this in my account. I am surprised how forum members still raise their fingers after a business's official statement. Yet, you guys suspect a business for an Individual person who left their platform.

This is my answer:

https://i.postimg.cc/WpDbXXPf/abra.png (https://postimg.cc/8sSSCdch)

No one appears to have searched for Sil3ntS0ul so here goes:

https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Sil3ntS0ul



There's no rhyme nore reason why that specific name is used, however, the OP / UID that makes the post is Cratoon (the OP of the thread).

The thread ( ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0;dt) ) is Merited by naim027 (2) (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/1695987.html) a full two years *after* the thread was created.

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Cratoon [BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1695987)]

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/20/H6Ye1.jpeg

John Abraham [BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2589230)]  

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/06/20/H6v1l.jpeg

changes their password 48 hours after Cratoon

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Miraculously, cratoon has showered you with merits (https://loyce.club/Merit/history/1695987.html) *after* your no longer controlled the account as observed by decodx in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62396561#msg62396561).

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Funny how John Abraham's only DT distrust is of me:

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https://loyce.club/trust/2022-11-12_Sat_05.07h/1695987.html


Hmm... funny that...

Mmm.  That argument of personal vs. business accounts befuddles me completely, as I've never seen any such interpretation of the rule regarding ban evasion being presented before--and likely for good reason, too.  Unless I'm reading things wrong, it is always the person behind the banned account who is banned, and thus any accounts under that person's control are also banned regardless of what the accounts are used for. 

If I'm not mistaken, I've seen campaign/bounty managers receive temp bans and other such individuals who have urgent forum business to attend to on a regular basis, and there was never any question that an alt account could NOT be created in order to deal with that business.  I recall pleas to the mods to lift such bans, as whoever those members were couldn't communicate with the people they needed to (it was a long time ago).

I know Royse777 had a good relationship with naim027 and probably still does, but the rest of us can't view the latter through the former's eyes.  Homeboy naim027's actions and words made in public are all we can go by, and it does seem like he's probably got a stable of alt accounts that have yet to be sniffed out.  Luckily the forum detectives can be as persistent and focused as an Adderall-sniffing, crack smoking fiend who can only pay extremely close attention to one thing, i.e., one or more of them is gonna be laser-focused on finding those alt accounts.  And they will, I've no doubt.

I assume it is 'naim027' who has told you that this topic has been created for personal issues. A few more forum members have also believed it as the way naim027 tried to tell the story in 'Mahdirakib Insight' thread. It is his (naim027) poor mentality that he thinks I created this thread for personal issue. But believe it or not, I don't have any personal issue with him.

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I think it is necessary to give the answer of this now. I was trying to find the connection between 'naim027' and Crypt0S0ul (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2851213) after watching this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864.msg61108552#msg61108552) of 'morvillz7z'. Initially I couldn't find any valid connection between those accounts as I was only checking his name style (Dic3L0v3r, Crypt0S0ul, Sil3ntS0ul). He was using '0' instead of 'o' in the name of those accounts. I had sent a PM to 'LoyceV' by including those information. Then I found a real connection between 'AnotherAlt' and 'Dic3L0v3r' when I checked the addresses.

I wasn't checking anything about naim027 after that. And I had no reason to spy on 'John Abraham'. But I was a bit curious after reading this post of John Abraham in gambling section.


I'm highly active in the gambling board, but I wasn't familiar with the name 'John Abraham' when I participated in those contests. I started to investigate on 'John Abraham' account by being curious. At first, I checked his post history and noticed he wasn't active in the forum when we (Panjul07 and me) were participating on those contests regularly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395569.0). Then I started to check the transaction of 'John Abraham' Bitcoin address and found the connection with 'naim027' Bitcoin address.

I had also sent an email to whirlwind.money support by requesting the information of the forum member who was sending Bitcoin to 'naim027' address. But they haven't replied to my email (email screenshot (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/20/H6oTg.jpeg)). Finally I created this topic so that the forum members can find out the more connections between 'naim027' and 'John Abraham' account. Some forum members have posted enough evidence in this thread, but 'John Abraham' (I mean naim027) is still trying to deny it by telling lies and with baseless replies.

'Sil3ntS0ul' is telegram display name of 'naim027'.

An "official statement" from someone without credibility has no value.

I'm more interested in when he added the account: February 2022 (https://loyce.club/trust/2022-02-19_Sat_05.07h/1695987.html). Cratoon just posted that "Naim" handled the "Cratoon" account back then:
So he included his own account on Cratoon's Trust list. That's sockpuppet voting for DT1, even though his account was nowhere near DT1.

Naim027 added Mahdirakib that same week:

https://loyce.club/trust/2022-02-19_Sat_05.07h/1187984.html


Too many coincidences...

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week 161 - (the week prior) naim027 adds ~90 UID's to their distrust list taking their DT distrust list to exactly 100.

I believe naim027 then set about a slow build of DT votes to get themself to DT 1 by layering votes to eventually get themselves to ten votes without drawing attention to themselves

You may find it as coincidence, but naim027 had removed me from his trust list (https://loyce.club/trust/2022-04-09_Sat_05.10h/1187984.html) after a few weeks. Where he was in the trust list of 'Cratoon' (https://loyce.club/trust/2022-11-12_Sat_05.07h/1695987.html) until he (naim027) lost his reputation. Not to mention, 'Cratoon' account was belongs to 'naim027' during then.


'naim027' stopped trusting himself from 'Cratoon' account after receiving a lot of negative feedback :D. Maybe the account still belongs to naim027. He was using his trust list as the way he needed it to get the attention of the DT members.

That is a good answer considering the circumstances ;D

From time to time some alt-account or another belonging to naim027 will eventually be found out and tagged, you are right about that. Whatever the real relationship between them it does not interest many of us here, they both can trust each other as much as they want but most of distrust one because of his compulsive lying and farmed alt-accounts while the other one has outgrown his ego and shown levels of increasing narcissism as he began managing multiple signature campaigns.

Personally, I trust neither of them.

I don't know about niam027 or the others in the list except Royse. Royse is one of the best people I ever met on the forum, and you're somehow trying to say that he's somehow an alt of those people. I totally disagree with your statement and found it totally useless. Royse is a very honest campaign manager and I have worked with him on many campaigns, and I can vouch for his honesty as a campaign manager. He does his job with complete transparency and has been playing his role as one of the best campaign managers for the forum.


Even if someone is banned on the forum that person can work in a team as a freelancer and no rules say that a person who is banned on this forum could not work for someone outside the forum. If I'm not wrong then a banned user can't work on this forum from his account or from an alt-account, and he/she can work with others without any problem if the task is outside the forum.

Like Royse already said that the guy is a member of his campaign management team and his work is to manage spreadsheets of the campaigns. There isn't any problem if someone is doing that, and it's Royse honestly and generous nature that he shared the thing with forum members. He could have hide the thing like other people do, but he said the truth which only few people who are transparent can say without any fear. If someone is not wrong then that person doesn't have any fear to tell a truth.

I'm pretty sure that Royse isn't favoring anyone and is telling the truth only, but it's a fact that most of the times the people who tell the truth face some type of criticism and hatred. And, I would also request the members on the thread to not have grudges with each other.

Royse777 must be a superman or a bot for him to be naim027, John Abraham, AnotherAlt, cryptoSoul, Cratoon and one other account I can't remember it's name. It was used by naim027 for ban appeal. Someone who can farm these accounts is really someone who has no other things to do apart from posting and applying in signature campaigns and not someone like Royse777 who manages upto 5 different campaigns and also manage bounties and other services.

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I avoided the drama in the reputation board for few days, before I could return more dramas unfolded. I see that Poker player has tagged what seems to be an official account of Paradice casino. Following the conversation allowed me to understand that paradice themselves admitted that naim027 is among people that uses the account for official purposes. Which I think there is nothing wrong with that. Because business if registered is a separate entity from people controlling it. A brand can sue and be sued.

But naim027 or whoever was using the account to post outside the paradice thread, involved in many threads in the forum where their business name was not mentioned is where the problem lies. The official status of the account has been humiliated and as such it lacks the capacity to vouch for either naim027 or John Abraham.

As the John Abraham is no longer in a signature campaign the person using the account will probably let it fade away soon because if it cannot generate any income (or money) for the person controlling the account, it will be of no use.

That at the very least is one positive to appear from this thread that naim027 was posting using strong religious beliefs as a way of conducting himself as well posting complete paradoxical explanations certain opposite conduct. Add to the compulsive lying and attempted manipulations along with the using of profanities then it is a reminder of the reasons why he was distrusted by many members (and it was not just because he had many alt-accounts).

Am I the only person to whom John Abraham, i.e. naim027 has sent a PM regarding feedback?

No, I got a PM from him earlier today and in it he mentioned that he was going to contact you.  I imagine the message he sent me is similar to what you received, though what I got was a long-winded explanation as to why he and naim027 aren't alt accounts.

There's enough evidence in this thread that points to the two accounts being controlled by the same person--at least enough for me to feel comfortable tagging the John Abraham one.  The moderators might feel differently or require a higher standard of proof, but there's always been that disconnect between them and DT members. 

By the way, I don't want people presenting their arguments for removing a tag being delivered via PM.  Everything should be out in the open so that the community can weigh in--at least that's the way I see it.  So John Abraham, if you want to share additional info please do it here.  Nobody's forcing you to, but I'm requesting that you do.

I deleted it without reading it. 3 red tags and two other neutrals that are almost negative because they say they don't trust him, are enough for me.

I am open to review of my feedback, especially if evidence is presented, but I am not willing to be messed with, especially by someone who is especially skilled at manipulating.

Well, I also received a PM from the John Abraham account. It seems those that left negative trust on his account received the PM.

I also think working behind the scenes via PM to provide information or present arguments is not best practice if the objective is to try to have feedback/trust either removed or revised. When presenting a case if everything is out in the open for all to see there can be no doubt about what is going on when questions and answers are put forward. In these types of matters the community should (as you said) be able to weight in.

I will not reply to the PM but also will state that if the John Abraham account has anything to add then he should post it here for all to read.

Buzz!
Poker player, did you really do that? If actually you did will I say you were very unfair to him or will I say you were kind of mean or wicked to him. Whatever language I use doesn't really matter because you reserve the right to doing what pleases you but I feel that you went too far or you took it personal
I understand that some forum users whose records are not clean are always afraid of JollyGood, do you want to take over from JG? ;D I know too well that if such message was sent to JG, he'll atleast read even if he will feel indifferent.


Some matters relating to this are better discussed in private because it is easy to convince one person than to convince a multitude. However, John Abraham taking the lane of PM at this juncture of the matter is not acceptable. It is late to use the pm. The community is very much aware of this matter and many people have discussed here. If Abraham has more evidences to vindicate himself, he should drop them here.

Was it just a long text message, or was there any kind of evidence (screenshot of conversation)? It has become a failed attempt from him to remove the negative feedbacks as none of you have changed the decisions.

naim027 was trying to unban his account by sending PM's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399515.msg60622355#msg60622355) to moderators and administrators. Now he (John Abraham) is trying to convince three of you to clean his account reputation. We shouldn't forget that we are dealing with a liar and storyteller

Well if that is the case he has failed because it looks as like the three forum members that left negative feedback (Poker Player, The Sceptical Chymist and myself) have all taken individual decisions to not revise nor modify the respective feedbacks.

I think it is clear to him he has lost the account as far as earning an income from it is concerned therefore he tried his best at trying a different approach to attempt manipulation via the PM route.

But wait – I was just wondering why you didn't tag him ^{[John Abraham]} after you made a provable accusation with some valid data?

I'm not urging you to tagging John Abraham - but just curious when you convince some DTs not to consider removing the tags or revising it for John Abraham.

So far John Abraham has also had time to PM me on 14th June 2023 - he explained something about the situation, but I can't take it for granted. Of course I pressed him to explain the matter and prove all the makes sense in public rather than in private - but since then I haven't followed the story anymore.

As I said before, I have enough serious reasons not to post in public. So, I wanted to write them in DM because I don't feel safe posting everything in public. I don't have to convince everyone. I just wanted to talk with them and cooperate with the necessary information document they want, which I may not be able to post publicly.

They might have some personal issues with Naim, and now they showing anger with me, considering I am Naim.
If they don't want to hear me, that's fine.

Well, I have John Abraham, I mean naim027, on ignore and since this is supposedly about a hypothetical, though very unlikely, incorrectness of my feedback, I have temporarily removed him from ignore to see what he says:


You are off to a bad start.


You keep on the bad track.


It's not that you don't have. It's just that you don't.


Garbage.


Anger? Rather boredom.


So why are you talking?

I am putting you back on ignore forever.

Since when did an early days developer of Rubycoin with its ticker RBY as username for this forum trying to nick a living through signature campaign and specially after a long 7 years of break from the forum along with hundred of deleted replies re-Rubycoin developments in many places in the forum including here: https://archive.ph/wip/6fUkn? You are not making yourself that much helpful to this known cheater/abuser/ban evader/compulsive liar's case. And also, I have nothing to prove that it is an account which might have been compromised or changed hands but I will post it anyway! Best of luck to everyone getting rid of this Naim027 and his countless bought accounts in the forum!

https://i.ibb.co/Tqp9jHr/Capture.jpg (https://ibb.co/CsNRCnW)

Why don't you create a dedicated thread instead of posting off topic here? Don't you think you are driving the discussion into something else? If you have any say on this, you better create a thread.

No. I believe I am entitled to say what I think might be a clue to get other alts of that Naim027 through exposure of accounts like that. It's obvious there were many accounts tried hard to prove Naim027's innocence in last year's saga in a deleted thread and seems same case this year around. Cheers. It feels you have always been very jumpy on whoever has had tried to encounter that cheating sc*m since last year's saga. Fishy much?  ???

He is doing some selective Pms.
I am curious if the Pms sent to all has same content or each user with a separate message. I also agree with you that at this time John Abraham should be using here instead of Pm. If he continue using PM and more than 3 people reports his account, he might be risking 7days ban or more.

This naim027 must be a super human or a bot.
He is naim027, he is John Abraham, he is AnotherAlt, he is cryptoSoul, he is Dic3lov3r, he is paradice, he is Royse777 and now he is an early developer rby, who knows he could also be Little Mouse  ;D

Who knows? He could be! That's something many of us have seen many times. I know a guy named Khan or something like that had 10+ full and senior member accounts- all were being used for signature campaigns at the same time. He was first being caught by Bitbollo for spreading bs about Covid in Italian thread. I caught a guy with 30+ accounts once and at least 10 of those were being used for his scam projects bounty programs. In your case, I don't buy that you are the real owner of RBY account which may or may not be connected to naim027.

I was looking for a way to tell you to correct your quote, so I waited for you for while for you to figure it out and you did.
If you ever caught someone with 30+ accounts that's great. I went through your post history and discovered that you are good at exposing scam, ban evasion and cheating. I never know you until now. I only know about lovesmayfamilis, Ratimov, Poker player and others. Hope you use bot notifier such that whenever I see something fishy I'll mention your username to do some investigations.
Meanwhile, you have till eternity to clear your doubts. Let's not derail this thread, John Abraham might have something interesting to say. Cheers!

You're right, they're not. The account was created to promote a coin called Rubycoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1163834.0), lol.

Funny that they deleted all their posts from Sept 2015 to Jan 2019  :D

wonder why that is... oh its because the account was owned by a scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=239997) and then sold to its present owner.

wonder why they bother sticking their nose in threads about alt accounts, lol.

@rby if you are the original account owner, it would appear you still owe CleanWaterCoin 2 BTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=638171.0), so pay up  :D

Yes!

Delete your old posts if you feel they are below standard and lose interest in some certain boards and/or projects.


Mention me anywhere or quote my conversation anywhere and I will be there in a while. I'm everywhere

There are trends batches in the crypto industry, the trend of bounties and owning projects came and passed and no one owned anyone. If there were people owing people, some people should owe me upto 10BTC  = $302,850k  ;D

Damn man, get off this account and move to next one because that is what you will do next when this one gets painted in red. The original owner of your account is being hunted according to little google search! Who knows what more f-ed things come out if people start to dig more.
https://twitter.com/FindFuzzy

https://i.ibb.co/q72Tj6X/Capture.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Funny dude.
Get serious man!

Off-topic but I would like to inform you that you can use a BBcode signature for Senior member rank. I guess you worn that signature when you were a Full member.

Take it there
Museum of Bitcoin, Bitcointalk avatars [Community-led] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406788.msg60591936#msg60591936)

You decided to enter this conversation on your own -- nobody mentioned or quoted you before your first post here.


My bad @invincible49 I didn't see this post first.

Yes bringing up the subject is a bit off-topic here (for now) but it is odd seeing accounts that barely frequents the Reputation board giving their unsolicited two cents on this particular topic.

You are absolutely right, there were instances of account farming related to easily exceeding 10+ 20+ fake accounts all being used for either merit abuse, signature campaigns and various nefarious purposes.

You are an experienced individual therefore you should know when the person you are communicating with starts using excessive amounts of smileys within their replies they do not have much more to add (not that they may have had anything of substance to add in the first place).

This post is not off-topic because it is yet another example of an account that was created or purchased for the sole purpose of earning through signature campaigns yet took unnecessary steps that got them noticed. That is why this thread was created because the John Abraham account took unnecessary steps that got that his account noticed.

I never frequent any board in the recent times except the gambling discussion board, where I enjoyed posting and replying posts on the football mega threads. But then, some new accounts with thousands of merits keep segregating and discrimating like they are better users of the forum.
Meanwhile, are there some special accounts designated to posting on the reputation board. Maybe the judges of BTT, such that others dare not say their opinions?

invincible49, I'm glad to see you at last on your main account :). You have been missed in this discussion, and I am sure you have something to add to the accusations in this thread. If I'm not mistaken, you also belong to the local section where Naim027 hangs out with his alternative accounts. I thought about you and thought that if you came, you could tell a lot about the "kitchen" of this local section.

I would like to give him a few more days if he has anything new to post publicly as evidence. The DT members had already decided to keep the tags, and their tags are valuable to detect a cheater. I just highlighted the post as a reminder that how 'naim027' was telling lies to not get caught.

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Let me make the job a bit easier for 'invincible49' and all of you who work to find the suspicious activity of the users in the forum. I'm also belong to the same local section. I just observed some recent pages of the local board after your post and found something interesting.

It looks like a lot of new accounts were created to just participate in the "Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest". Maybe most of them belongs to the Bangladeshi local board. Even some of them have sent merits to each other. Check the merit history of Coinpk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3549710). This user has merit trading activity with Cryptocoinsssss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3557522), Worsh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3544475), Chadmama7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3558112). Probably these accounts belong to one person.

Here are few more users whose account was created to participate in Pizza contest: 2Pizza410000BTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3558224), Bd officer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3552984), synchronym (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3557773), Gulttam2a2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3552883). Most of these users have received their first merit from Pizza contest. Now they are active in the local board of Bangladesh and sending merits to each other by involving in the discussions. Some of those accounts could be operated by the same person. Maybe we are getting off-topic here with this discussion.

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I just noticed that the alt account of 'naim027' (Crypt0S0ul)  has given 16 merits to StarBets casino representative account on 9th April (https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=Crypt0S0ul&to=StarBets). There will be nothing to surprise if the account of StarBets is operated by naim027 now.

Yep, you got it. The StarBets account is also run by naim027, and I knew about this connection beforehand. I never spilled the beans on it because the StarBets account is only active in their own thread, and naim027 is still allowed to hang out on the forum. So, there is no ban evading at the moment.

I found some evidence to back this up in the screenshots he shared. I'm pretty sure I wrote down that info somewhere. If we need it, I'll dig it up and verify it if necessary.

No need to wait, John Abraham Naimo27 is actively participating in discussions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5458014.msg62480955#msg62480955) which means he deliberately left this thread on ignore. Proceed with the tagging.

I'm certain Naim027 is still around with at least 2 different accounts. To me its pretty obvious who they are. He's done a much better job at hiding social media and crypto address connections this time around, but there's one thing he doesn't know about.

Anyone want to guess who they are?  :D

I don't want to get into a guessing game, but I am also of the same opinion that he is actively on the forum as I have said repeatedly, although I have no idea which accounts he uses. Would you mind not keeping the suspense for too long?

Fair enough, its probably not nice to just throw names around like that.

I spent quite a while putting it together and I'm pretty sure I know who they are, just putting in some finishing touches.

In any case, I don't know what practical repercussions it may have. My reconciled friend said that Naim027 works for him updating spreadsheets and the like, and also lately he has been hiring people with a few red tags, so if you now reveal those two accounts and a few DTs we leave them half a dozen red tags maybe that will have no practical consequence. I mean maybe it won't affect the money he is earning on the forum. However, we should not neglect our duty, which is to red tag those accounts.

I can already see how Naim027 pulled his head into his neck.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/13/Rs10v.jpeg

I have a couple of options, and one of them has a time interval in the publications.
But you are very intriguing, and since this man is very cunning, I want to see his new mask. :)

The mystery around Naim027 and his various identities keeps the forum lively and interesting.  I gotta admit, I'd be disappointed  if he just disappeared.  He may be many things, but you can't deny he's got grit and he doesnt back down easily.  It's pretty impressive how he bounces back and reinvents himself. 

I look forward to seeing what he cooks up next. Happy sleuthing!

No doubt other members will get involved to inflame the situation, I think this will get very messy after you enlighten us with names. I am very confident the names you post will be wearing a signature or avatar run by the same campaign manager.

naim027
Crypt0S0ul
Dic3L0v3r
AnotherAlt
John Abraham

Are these the only known/discovered accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395857.msg62974137#msg62974137) operated by him?

It will be disappointing if he used the same wallet, like that ChipMixer cheater you caught few years ago (can't remember his name).


Considering the fact that members from some of the less developed countries can earn more via average signature campaign than they can doing regular job, no wonder that they won't give up even when caught. You can be assured that if Naim027 saw nutildah's post, he already created few more accounts and started farming, which can only became better at after "leveling up" so many accounts before.

naim027 has been exposed as a compulsive liar and a chief manipulator that is why keeps reinventing himself. The true number of accounts he operates has not been discovered as he will keep registering them.

Also, he is being supported by at least one so-called prominent member (and that is part of the reason why he returns with alt-account after alt-account) but if the names that will be put forward are being operated by him, will any member here come to his defence?

It was figmentofmyass, it seems he had three accounts enrolled in the Chipmixer signature campaign (as well as some other accounts he was not monetising): Long-time sig campaign farm ID'd via single wallet transaction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313637.0)

Well, I know that the StarBets account (BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=StarBets)) is also operated by naim027. Or at least it was for a period of time. But since there is no password change recorded in the logs, it is probably still under his control.

And we also know about the Cratoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1695987) account that was under his control (by his own admission, by both Naim027 and John Abraham).



Oh, he might. But I doubt he'll show his face around here again, especially after that little brain malfunction (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62421482#msg62421482) incident. ;)

How do you know that? I see it has positive feedback by icopress, lol.


I think he will have no problem showing his face when the accounts he manages are revealed, as theymos and the moderators have made it clear that they are not going to do anything to him for having ban evaded and I imagine that even if he gets a few red tags it will not affect his ability to earn from signature campaigns.

I will say it won't be a shock at all if I see him around once again. And yes, I agree, he must be here, doing his "usual" stuff. 😄

In the end, you can't stop someone... I mean, a ban from the moderators is on the "account" which ethically implies you're not allowed to be a participant on this website anymore. But you can't force someone; admins can't put exclusive checks of any kind. This issue isn't exclusive to Bitcointalk; it applies to every other social media platform too. Yeah, in the case of Bitcointalk, it's much easier to get around, and you can start earning in any spooky campaign as soon as you create an account. So it lucrative....

So, yeah, he must be active with more than one account. We're not surprised... but someone will surely surprise him by naming those accounts again, and that's when the real fun begins! 😆

I'm not sure which accounts are under your investigation, but I believe there are at least two casinos representative account under naim027, and there could be another account of Sr. Member rank. I couldn't find out any direct connections between those accounts except possible merits trading activity.

Anyway, decodx has already mentioned the name of one casino representative account above. The other one is JohnTwice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3559709) who is the representative of Wintomato casino now. You will know the suspected Sr. Member rank user name by observing the merit history of StarBets (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3453096) and wintomato OP (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=wintomato).

You can guess it easily by checking the merit history of StarBets representative account. Alts of naim027 (Crypt0S0ul, John Abraham, AnotherAlt) has dumped some merits on that account. Perhaps, icopress had left the feedback as he was running the signature campaign of StarBets.

Now that you mention it, I recall there was the matter of the Cratoon account and that was related to the Paradice (paradice.in) website. The case about naim027 and the StarBets account sounds familiar therefore I will try to find the thread to get a better understanding but there are probably many more names to add to the list.

He will definitely keep showing up in various threads even if his new known alt-accounts receive negative tags. He has a history of doing it therefore why would he stop now when he is getting enrolled on avatar and signature campaigns and there is no fear on his part of being banned.

I imagined something like this. Just because naim027 has plagiarized, evaded, cheated and manipulated doesn't mean he's going to do 100% of things wrong. Surely the business deals he did behind that account and others were correct and executed to perfection. Just as I understand that he is also a good writer for signature campaigns. And it seems that also working for a team managing campaigns updating spreadsheets and the like he does things right.

Another thing is that as he has shown repeatedly that he has no moral principles to make money in principle making deals with him is high risk, no matter if according to his mental calculations being honest is more profitable in the long run than running off with the money in some particular deals or jobs.

As it would not have been appropriate to post names of possible alt-accounts that are operated by naim027, we may have to keep them to ourselves but did any of you manage to make your own shortlists? I have three names on my list but none are conclusive.

Maybe naim027 is doing his job perfectly for updating the spreadsheets and he has contributed to the forum with his post quality. But how much chances he deserves to not violate the forum rules? All the alts of naim027 are allowed to make posts in the forum. Will there be any difference by digging out his more alt accounts as he isn't evading the ban?

As I have said in my previous post, StarBets OP (StarBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3453096)), Wintomato marketing manager (JohnTwice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3559709)) and this Sr. Member user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3506304) accounts could be owned by naim027 at this moment. I don't want to mention the name to make him aware now, he will know it if he visits this thread and check the replies. The accounts could be different which has been suspected by you and nutildah.

I had this research buried somewhere in a pile of other stuff, so it took me a while to dig it out.  Anyway, it's more than just a basic merit transfer between alt accounts.  

Let's start with the StarBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3453096) account.  There's a post on Bitcointalk (link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389679.msg60696197#msg60696197)) where the user introduces themselves as "Nora":


 and, if we check out the official StarBets Telegram channel (https://t.me/starbets_io), we can see @Nora_StarBets listed as one of the admins.  

Now look at naim027 who made this post (link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5397778.msg60078555#msg60078555)).  The original post got edited, but we can still see it on ninjastic.space (https://ninjastic.space/post/60078555).  He shared some screenshots there that are available on ImgBB:


These screenshots make it obvious that @Nora_StarBets is the Telegram username used by our dear friend naim027 when chatting with his buddy @Bryan_StarBets, another StarBets staff member.
Example:
https://i.ibb.co/q5VgQ7j/IMG-20220507-205204.jpg


Another curious thing is that naim027 edited his post to hide the evidence on June 29, just five hours after Mahdirakib mentioned StarBets in this thread for the first time (link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456056.msg62479451#msg62479451)).