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June 13, 2023, 05:55:40 AM
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1xbit is a known scam company. Advertising or even applying in their thread will lead you to have a neg trusted account. What about companies that aren't labeled a scam yet? You left this out of your presentation. If a company is found to be a scam, the manager and the participants should cease all advertising for that company. This will save everyone from getting painted red for advertising that company.

That's exactly what I thought when I read the OP. It's a piece of information that's missing from his topic and which is very important.

Take the example of bettercaulraul.it, they acted in a legit and correct way for a while, then disappeared claiming to have been seized. They were scammers and neither the manager nor the participants of the said campaign could have known this, because at the time the campaign was created, the site was operating and offering services in a totally legit way - it was even listed on kycnot.me. In this particular case, I think it's normal that no-one should be tagged.

Apart from that, I agree with OP that members should obviously do their research before promoting a site or service. That's what most of us already do, whether as managers or campaign participants (at least I hope so!).

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June 13, 2023, 08:07:05 AM
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1xbit is a known scam company. Advertising or even applying in their thread will lead you to have a neg trusted account. What about companies that aren't labeled a scam yet? You left this out of your presentation. If a company is found to be a scam, the manager and the participants should cease all advertising for that company. This will save everyone from getting painted red for advertising that company.

That's exactly what I thought when I read the OP. It's a piece of information that's missing from his topic and which is very important.

Take the example of bettercaulraul.it, they acted in a legit and correct way for a while, then disappeared claiming to have been seized. They were scammers and neither the manager nor the participants of the said campaign could have known this, because at the time the campaign was created, the site was operating and offering services in a totally legit way - it was even listed on kycnot.me. In this particular case, I think it's normal that no-one should be tagged.

Apart from that, I agree with OP that members should obviously do their research before promoting a site or service. That's what most of us already do, whether as managers or campaign participants (at least I hope so!).

Bettercaulraul is somehow a surprised scam I also thought before that they are good platform but unfortunately they end up the expectations and show their true colors so this reminds us that even if those platforms provide good service at first we still need to be careful and don't give our full trust because scamming still possible since we don't know if they just showing up so that they could earn trust and more revenue to their upcoming scams.

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June 13, 2023, 08:28:26 AM
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this days, we have just very few persons who have human sympathy and are not willing to compromise their dignity and self respect for money, asides this, everyone's looking out for their pocket, In as much as the campaign's willing to pay, the too are willing to bag the money without thinking of the effect their review would have on the next person.

You do realize you're talking about yourself here right? You're advertising a well-known scam casino for money, with utter disregard for the fact that you may be encouraging people to get scammed. If you want the world to be a better place you can start by changing yourself and stop promoting a scam. Not that you'll ever read this.

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June 13, 2023, 10:05:23 AM
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this days, we have just very few persons who have human sympathy and are not willing to compromise their dignity and self respect for money, asides this, everyone's looking out for their pocket, In as much as the campaign's willing to pay, the too are willing to bag the money without thinking of the effect their review would have on the next person.

You do realize you're talking about yourself here right? You're advertising a well-known scam casino for money, with utter disregard for the fact that you may be encouraging people to get scammed. If you want the world to be a better place you can start by changing yourself and stop promoting a scam. Not that you'll ever read this.

That means he don't know what he's talking about since he just ignore all of it and continue to wear the sig of well known scam casino. People like that doesn't really mean the words of advice they say to help people to avoid scam or anything that can avoid other to help those scammers, since the only one they care is to gain from the casino they promote and they just spam to count up and reached their weekly quotas

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June 14, 2023, 10:01:50 AM
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That means he don't know what he's talking about since he just ignore all of it and continue to wear the sig of well known scam casino. People like that doesn't really mean the words of advice they say to help people to avoid scam or anything that can avoid other to help those scammers, since the only one they care is to gain from the casino they promote and they just spam to count up and reached their weekly quotas

This is proof that everyone has their own price. If something cannot be bought with money, then it can be bought with a lot of money. It is precisely because a few accounts have neglected their reputation and this scam company has started paying them that bad reputation accounts find a place in this forum. Everyone has a choice of which way to go, the forum is free, exactly like people are free in their actions. I think a few of the accounts promoting this scam also have alternate accounts, ranting about what's good and what's bad.
There are many people who will scream about morality and morality until the question of price arises before them. In our world, everything is bought and sold, and it is simply useless to expect decency from everyone.

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June 14, 2023, 10:34:27 AM
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Promoting scam company will make you regret some of the punishment you will receive from this forum because is against the rules in the Bitcointalk and it will not help you to enjoy the reward attached to the forum. I know many people promote scam company because of money and regret with the red tags which will make them to lose value in so many areas in the Bitcointalk. I will advise newbies not to be Carry away by money that involve in promoting scam company than to be careful with company  that will damage their account.

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June 14, 2023, 12:17:33 PM
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If it has been established that a company or project is a scam with proof and all, then best course of action is not to wear such a signature as doing so would allow the scam to grow further affecting other members of the forum who might not be aware of whats really happening with a  company or project .

But unfortunately seems users don't mind crossing the red tape for a few pieces of silver which might look okay, but this isn't only one user benefiting , it's other users being negatively affected and potential of losing out..So basically the negative effects of supporting a scam site outweighs an individuals benefit which is why these cases are against promoters of a scam site.

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June 14, 2023, 01:05:21 PM
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The Users who have the negative trusts or get the negative trusts by any reason they go to the scam sites campaign. As you mentioned a big scam casino website 1xbit. So this website is totally scam and usres who join this campaign also will get the negative trusts from DT members which we can see under their name or by clicking trust button.

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June 14, 2023, 03:40:28 PM
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That means he don't know what he's talking about since he just ignore all of it and continue to wear the sig of well known scam casino. People like that doesn't really mean the words of advice they say to help people to avoid scam or anything that can avoid other to help those scammers, since the only one they care is to gain from the casino they promote and they just spam to count up and reached their weekly quotas

It is really a shame that Alisha-K did not even realize that this whole thread specifically points to him and others wearing the signature of a well-known scam casino. I suppose he is even supposed to avoid commenting on topics like this or instead talk in his favor and in favor of the signature he puts on, but nothing like that. You are very correct that they only care about the benefits of the payment they receive from the casino they are promoting. Despite the fact that our comments get incentivized, one should not just be concerned about the payment and make some spammy or shitpost.

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June 14, 2023, 05:06:55 PM
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Promoting and supporting scam projects in bitcointalk is not encouraged by this forum. Though scams don't moderate on this forum but members can with enough proof. I saw 1xbit runs their campaign for long time and many forum members promotes that by wearing signatures. I don't know how they manage to run the campaign for so long but it is good that now they are gone.

As a member of the forum we should take the responsibility of what we promote.
It's common sense that promotion of scam projects is never condone on the forum and any other legit forum, but what are your criteria for knowing that a project is a scam?

The non regulations of project entering the ecosystem gives opportunity to any project to get into the system, yes there are things that expert advice to look out for in spotting scam projects but this days scammers are now getting wise and covering up those leakage holes. It's really hard to spot a scam projects especially when the scammers are investing time and funds into it.

I would advice that we reduce the way we join in or spot any random project that comes into the ecosystem. It may stop you from exploring new possibility but also reduce your risk on getting scammed.

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this days, we have just very few persons who have human sympathy and are not willing to compromise their dignity and self respect for money, asides this, everyone's looking out for their pocket, In as much as the campaign's willing to pay, the too are willing to bag the money without thinking of the effect their review would have on the next person.

You do realize you're talking about yourself here right? You're advertising a well-known scam casino for money, with utter disregard for the fact that you may be encouraging people to get scammed. If you want the world to be a better place you can start by changing yourself and stop promoting a scam. Not that you'll ever read this.
I was also surprised to see someone wearing 1xbit signature posting on this thread, perhaps the person behind the account didn’t realize he was posting from this particular account. I believe Ixbit signature participants are mostly alts and bought/hacked accounts that belong to a large alt farm.

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June 14, 2023, 07:37:09 PM
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One of the best means of avoiding participation in bounty campaign of a scam project is by following the well known and trusted bounty communities. Following the campaign run by top rank members of the community can also help to avoid such as they know what to look into to know if a project is real or fake.
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June 14, 2023, 09:19:16 PM
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Wearing a Signature of a scamsite will result in negative trust on our account
Yes, wearing a Signature of a scamsite will result in negative DT trust entry for certain members promoting it, rightfully so. Because endorsing such a scamsite can lead to people falling victim to such a scamsite.
Of course this really needs to be done. Because after all, do we have to support scam platforms? of course not, right? And we also cannot support all activities carried out by scammers and their supporters, including bounty participants. But somehow many people or some members here only focus on the rewards, regardless if what they are promoting is a scam or not. It's sad to see how this happened. And somehow, no matter how many times the project was stopped and fought against, they still exist and more and more members support them to get money from them. What an irony

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I think the best response to any fraudulent act in the forum would be letting out them red print to anyone, company or firm that's labeled a properly investigated scam reputation... When that's done, It doesn't just serve as a deterrent to other participants but it also keeps every other participants on alert lest they don't bumb into any of those scammers....
1xbit has been labelled as a scammy project for a long time now and I feel anyone should've known that already... exceptions are made for the new breed anyways. I dunno how wonderful it feels to give what you toiled through several years to very unpleasant firms like that... just for some few bucks that will certainly end in not more than 4 months..

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This may be the overall intention of many of us here, but the problem is that sometimes you can't tell which one is legit and which one is a scam. If it is already proven as scam, it is easy to avoid. But if it is a new project, who can tell? As a matter of fact, who does a deep research? Some people may do a little background checking and find nothing alarming, perhaps even with some red flags. Even popular managers here have probably promoted a scam or two.

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Apart from 1xbit, there are a few others that came from bounty managers on this forum and the projects are all scams, I think the best way to avoid such is by following the right bounty managers on this forum.

If Bounty managers have ranked on the forum, some will never become popular because all they bring to the table are scam projects, the more popular your bounty manager is the better your signature campaign experience will be.

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June 15, 2023, 09:04:37 AM
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This is a Very good advice, we have very professional Bounty managers here on Bitcointalk of a great reputation who will look out for shady projects and also avoid such projects, while also ensuring an escrow of funds. Most projects are hiring a good manager but some do not and such cases can lead to confusion. It is also an important advice to select Bitcoin campaigns over Altcoins campaigns because Bitcoin campaigns have proven to be more reliable, while many Altcoins have,This may be the overall intention of many of us here, but the problem is that sometimes you can't tell which one is legit and which one is a scam. If it is already proven as scam, it is easy to avoid. But if it is a new project, who can tell? As a matter of fact, who does a deep research? Some people may do a little background checking and find nothing alarming, perhaps even with some red flags. Even popular managers here have probably promoted a scam or two.
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June 15, 2023, 02:33:32 PM
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Wearing a Signature of a scamsite will result in negative trust on our account
Yes, wearing a Signature of a scamsite will result in negative DT trust entry for certain members promoting it, rightfully so. Because endorsing such a scamsite can lead to people falling victim to such a scamsite.
How will you know that the campaign is for scamming? Unless the campaign is announced by forum members that it is a scam site. And the only campaign that has that scam name in the forum as for now is 1XBit.  I don't think any reputable user in the forum will join a scam campaign to promote the site. It is only like scammers like them can join their campaigns. Nobody like to be scammed and also like to promote scam sites. It is good you remind them on it .
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They all have red trust for taking part in scam campaigns but they don't really care for it because they are getting paid for it and that only matters for the 1xbit participants.They are aware about it and we have lot of threads about similar discussion but on moral grounds they should think about it as they are also destroying their forum reputation and what after it ends? They cannot participate in any other campaign and mostly you will see spam posters there because the campaign is not looking for high quality posts but only a specific number of weekly posts which they can easily make advertising their signature.So with our motivation they will not leave the campaign so can't do anything about it as forum rules also can't take any action against them.

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June 19, 2023, 05:23:37 AM
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To me I don't think no campaign would drop a notification that they're here to scam or have bad intentions. When I first got into this Forum I had no idea of 1xbit being a scammy campaign, until I start asking why the users all have red tags on them. How can one tell if any campaign is a scam or not?
1xbit is not a campaign many of us would like to apply for, my question is, is there no way to stop 1xbit entirely from operating in this forum? Because to me the more they're around they won't clear their name from the bad book. Even some of the participants that don't know the crime or offence 1xbit committed just continue with the red flag tag and they're comfortable. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable around them commenting or replying to some post😔. Is there no way of restricting 1xbit or any scam campaign users from posting on some threads until something positive is done?

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