UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[tusandii]

I also think so, with performance like now, it is very difficult for Manchester United to qualify from the group stage and even if they go down to the Europa League, they won't necessarily be able to compete fiercely because the performance of the Manchester United team is in a very bad state, different from last season.

I don't have the slightest confidence that Ten Hag can boost Manchester United's performance in the UCL matches against Copenhagen and Galatasary, brands in the Premier League continue to experience defeats, and in reality it is impossible for a team to develop rapidly in a short time, especially for a team like Manchester United which has very down.

I agree with you. Even if it comes down to the UEFA Europa competition, I think a strong candidate who can compete is Sevilla. I have already mentioned that if you look at Sevilla's current performance in Group B, it is very likely that they will go down to the UEFA European League and they will be strong contenders for the title along with Liverpool. United will not provide significant resistance in the European league in the future and as you have said, it is impossible to improve the team's performance in a short time.

Indeed, currently Manchester United seems to have lost its big name since it failed to get talented players with high quality and this bad thing makes the chances of appearing strong in every competition very small and I don't know what other efforts Erik Ten Hag should make even though he has tried to provide the best but everything seems in vain.
Erik Ten Hag task is very difficult at the moment, he has to improve the club's performance while Manchester United lacks quality players and the last hope for Erik Ten is when the transfer window opens again to get new players but still fails for no other reason than having to change the coach.
So for the time being I am still waiting for this club to recover soon.

[HajiBagi]

To be honest I don't see a great future for Manchester United in the Champions League. Because there is still nothing changed in the positive direction for them. I didn't like them in any of their matches here except the one against Bayern Munich. Because when they played their first group match against Bayern Munich I thought that maybe they would perform better here.

However currently there isn't much difference between their effort here and in the English Premier League. They barely won against Copenhagen home and lost to Galatasaray which played much better than them. Manchester United would probably continue in the Europa League.

I agree with you as well. With their current poor performance, I don't think Manchester United will get any better. In fact, I think their qualification for the champion league this season is a stroke of luck; if they had performed any better this season, I wouldn't believe that they would have qualified. In fact, their current performance is even worse than Chelsea's. Because of the way Manchester United played their opening game against Bayern Munich, I was also thinking that the team would do well in the Champions League this season. However, based on their current performance, I don't think they will advance past the group stage.

I've also heard that the team doesn't want to change coaches; that is their problem, but in my opinion, Manchester United's coach is the problem; he doesn't know which players to start and which ones to bench. During the transfer window, I expressed concern that the team would suffer as a result of the Manchester United coach's decision to acquire players who shouldn't be there; rather than young, talented players, he chose to acquire old, unproven players. To be honest, Manchester United should be quite ashamed of the way they were defeated by Manchester City and Newcastle.

[len01]

Real Madrid seems to have become dependent on Bellingham this season, otherwise they will always have difficulty winning matches. Bellingham of course likes to do everything to make his team win the match, but if Real Madrid relies too much on his performance and goal opportunities to win, then I'm sure they will have a very difficult time winning if the opposing team keeps a close guard on Bellingham throughout the match.

Real Madrid is the favorite team in every Champions League season, I admit that's true. But since several Premier League teams have broken the dominance of La Liga teams in the Champions League, I think Real Madrid's chances will not be too big. Manchester City is the favorite team too, they will definitely fight to defend their title this season.

this is why Ancelotti is currently looking for the best striker to add to the line up to get scoring opportunities when Bellingham is blocked by many opposing defense players and I can understand if recently Bellingham has had difficulty scoring because several teams know that Real Madrid relies on this player so the opposing team defense will always try to make it difficult for Ballingham to score and with the arrival of the striker who will come, it is not certain who it will be, this will really help Ancelotti to set a new strategy and strengthen Madrid attack line.

on the one hand, I also admit that after City succeeded in breaking Madrid dominance in the UCL, currently Man City also has a pretty good chance of being the favorite in the UCL, but things will change after the best striker will come to Madrid and we will see Real Madrid win the title.

[makishart]

I also think so, with performance like now, it is very difficult for Manchester United to qualify from the group stage and even if they go down to the Europa League, they won't necessarily be able to compete fiercely because the performance of the Manchester United team is in a very bad state, different from last season.

I don't have the slightest confidence that Ten Hag can boost Manchester United's performance in the UCL matches against Copenhagen and Galatasary, brands in the Premier League continue to experience defeats, and in reality it is impossible for a team to develop rapidly in a short time, especially for a team like Manchester United which has very down.

I agree with you. Even if it comes down to the UEFA Europa competition, I think a strong candidate who can compete is Sevilla. I have already mentioned that if you look at Sevilla's current performance in Group B, it is very likely that they will go down to the UEFA European League and they will be strong contenders for the title along with Liverpool. United will not provide significant resistance in the European league in the future and as you have said, it is impossible to improve the team's performance in a short time.

Sevilla has a new coach and the club has yet fully adopted to the new strategy implemented by the new coach. I think that the chance for sevilla to get back to back europa league champion is pretty small this time.
Sevilla needs to be placed at the third place to go back again into the europa league but it's not the main target of sevilla. The club urgently needs to get money as fast as possible caused by the club has very big debt.
This is way staying even longer in the UCL has become the main target by sevilla. It's caused by the money recieved from UCL is far bigger compared what will be recieved from winning europa league torphy.

Sevilla was just using europa league as a way to go to the UCL easily without even needed in compete with some strong clubs like real madrid or barcelona.
This is the alternative way owned by sevilla to secure UCL spot at this moment.

Im thinking back to back europa league could be the last scenario by sevilla or it will end once sevilla finished at the fourth place.

[klidex]

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I agree with you. Even if it comes down to the UEFA Europa competition, I think a strong candidate who can compete is Sevilla. I have already mentioned that if you look at Sevilla's current performance in Group B, it is very likely that they will go down to the UEFA European League and they will be strong contenders for the title along with Liverpool. United will not provide significant resistance in the European league in the future and as you have said, it is impossible to improve the team's performance in a short time.

I tend to expect Sevilla to qualify for the round of 16 rather than going down to the Europa League like last season. Of course there is a good chance for Sevilla to compete fiercely if they go down to the Europa League, but this team must set high goals in the Champions League instead of just participating in the group stages.

Sevilla still has a chance to qualify because I don't think Lens can win many games either. Sevilla, PSV and Lens have a chance of qualifying, but one of these three teams will go down to the Europa League this season. Lens can also be expected to perform well if they enter the Europa League this season, but Sevilla can certainly do better as reigning champions.

Even though they are strong candidates in the European League, it look like Sevilla also hopes to appear in the Champions League, Sevilla is trying to get point to qualify from the group stage.
Your think Lens can't win a few match but in reality Lens are much better than Sevilla and they maximize their draw rather than defeat if we looks at the chance it look like Sevilla look a little difficult because Sevilla is already 3 point behind Lens and in the next matches Sevilla will face each other against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium I thinks Arsenal will win it against and Sevilla chances of qualifying will become increasingly difficult and it is possible that Sevilla will compete again in the UEFA European League.

[Altryist]

I tend to expect Sevilla to qualify for the round of 16 rather than going down to the Europa League like last season. Of course there is a good chance for Sevilla to compete fiercely if they go down to the Europa League, but this team must set high goals in the Champions League instead of just participating in the group stages.

Sevilla still has a chance to qualify because I don't think Lens can win many games either. Sevilla, PSV and Lens have a chance of qualifying, but one of these three teams will go down to the Europa League this season. Lens can also be expected to perform well if they enter the Europa League this season, but Sevilla can certainly do better as reigning champions.

It seems that Lance has found his game in recent games and started playing better, but they have to play away games against Arsenal and PSV, these will be difficult games and it will not be easy for them to get points in this match. Sevilla still looks doubtful, for some reason they show a good game, but are not able to achieve important victories, at best they are draws. And they have to play two very difficult matches away, against Arsenal and Lens, so I see that their chances for reaching the playoffs are not very good.

[piebeyb]

on the one hand, I also admit that after City succeeded in breaking Madrid dominance in the UCL, currently Man City also has a pretty good chance of being the favorite in the UCL, but things will change after the best striker will come to Madrid and we will see Real Madrid win the title.

Yes, their main squad currently seems good enough to win the UCL title this season, but still Manchester City is still the strongest in the UCL, even without KDB who is injured, I'm sure Guardiola has other players who can replace his position so that Manchester City can perform like Last season, Manchester City managed to get a treble winner that Madrid probably never got.

So far I may be a little doubtful about Manchester City's strength since experiencing consecutive defeats previously in the domestic league because there are several key players not playing, I think Guardiola doesn't have to rely on several players because what I know is that all Manchester City players have very good performance and appearance. . Guardiola can definitely take advantage of that. I would be happy to see Manchester City meet Madrid in the UCL final this season.

[Plaguedeath]

Even though they are strong candidates in the European League, it look like Sevilla also hopes to appear in the Champions League, Sevilla is trying to get point to qualify from the group stage.
Your think Lens can't win a few match but in reality Lens are much better than Sevilla and they maximize their draw rather than defeat if we looks at the chance it look like Sevilla look a little difficult because Sevilla is already 3 point behind Lens and in the next matches Sevilla will face each other against Arsenal at the Emirates stadium I thinks Arsenal will win it against and Sevilla chances of qualifying will become increasingly difficult and it is possible that Sevilla will compete again in the UEFA European League.

I feel like Sevilla is programmed for Europa league, are they on purpose to finish in 3rd position?

PSV is really like a shit here, they're win streaks in their local league but they can't even win in Champions league. But Arsenal's recent match was lose, so Arsenal isn't that strong to be honest. Though I believe they will able to enter the quarter final regardless the result in group stages.

[twiki]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

[temple]

Yes I am with you here. I saw the game Galatasaray-Bayern Munich and if they repeat that game exactly like that a dozen of times, Galatasaray wins it 80% of the time I think. They had far superior chances and dominated the game really for 70 minutes, it was crazy to watch. But they defeated themselves because if you don't turn those opportunities into goals, it is almost inevitable to lose the game against Bayern Munich eventually. They could have had a lead of maybe 2-0 or on a lucky day 3-0. I think if they scored the first goal, Bayern Munich might have collapsed in that game.

Group A stats, Bayern Munich ranked first, Galatasaray sitting second, while Manchester United 4th and Copenhagen sits bottom with just a point. Galatasaray losing 3-1 at the Türk Telekom Stadı was pure humiliation, given their best performance but having unexpected results was not the plan. The Bavarians came prepared and deserved good points after netting three goals against the home team. Galatasaray failed to convert most of their chances to goals, they maintain constant pressure but netting goals against their visitors, was denied.

No I would describe this game differently. The Bavarians came prepared was not what the game was looking like. They had their best eleven players on the pitch and yet they could in the first 70 minutes not get any control over the game. This win has nothing to do with the Bavarians' preparation for the game, it only had to do with the incompetence of the Galatasaray strikers in that game. This game was not won by the Bavarians, it was lost by the Galatasaray players. This group could be looking very differently and much worse for Bayern Munich.

[twiki]

Real madrid seems become the strongest candidate at this moment. It's caused by real madrid is in its best performance. This reminds me with madrid a few years ago when it has los galacticos squads. I was imagining vini as ronaldo. I know there is a difference between ronaldo and vini but the current squad reminds me with that moment. It's really nostalgic to see real madrid is going back again on its strongest form. Madrid needs only to make sure the club will able to get a quality players to play as striker.
I remember some names linked to the real madrid but madrid needs a new striker probably at the winter transfer season.

I agree entirely and completely with you.
This is not the Real Madrid that we could see 10 years ago, which had a lot of talents, I would even say masters, who showed an excellent game on the field.
But unfortunately, that was a long time ago and that time cannot be returned. But there is always a chance for changes for the better. and I believe that Ancelotti will change his tactics and the team will rapidly fly to the front, with even more powerful players who will really show an excellent game as Figo, Ronaldo and of course Mr. Zidane did.

[QueenVera]

It seems that Lance has found his game in recent games and started playing better, but they have to play away games against Arsenal and PSV, these will be difficult games and it will not be easy for them to get points in this match. Sevilla still looks doubtful, for some reason they show a good game, but are not able to achieve important victories, at best they are draws. And they have to play two very difficult matches away, against Arsenal and Lens, so I see that their chances for reaching the playoffs are not very good.

After a awful start this season it's s very good that they picked up form early if not it would've really affected their performance currently however Lens performance well against Arsenal in their home ground even while they were not really in a very good form but since they've improved they could really give Arsenal a tough game but it's not going to be very easy cause they're going to the home ground of the Gunners.

  Maybe they could win the rest two clubs especially Sevilla who's form in the UCL is nothing to talk about, as usually they won't really put much effort to qualify for the next round but would rather drop from the group stage to go fight for the Europa League trophy, probably win it and get a spot for the UCL,  so it's a very big advantage for Lens against Sevilla and  I think in their group it's Arsenal and Lens that would qualify.

[twiki]

Usually a game that is announced as Galatasaray Istanbul vs. Manchester United wouldn't be all that exciting, but this time it is indeed a top game in the Champions League because Galatasaray has delivered some impressive performances and Manchester United has to win the game or they would literally be game over in that group to qualify for the final round. But not only that, I also think that losing against Galatasaray could mean the beginning of the end for ten Hag. There will be so much fire in the game with all the glorious Istanbul fans! I recently read that it is the second loudest stadium in the world? Holy it must be intimidating to play there when there is no way out but to win the game. There is only one thing that would help Manchester United and that is a very early goal.

Did you watch the first 70 minutes of the Galatasaray-Bayern Munich game?
Galatasaray played so well that Bayern Munich couldn't do anything.
This year Galatasaray is playing very well and the fans are giving great support.

Harry Kane; Galatasaray fans deafened me.

M.United will come to one of the loudest stadiums in the world.

Yes I am with you here. I saw the game Galatasaray-Bayern Munich and if they repeat that game exactly like that a dozen of times, Galatasaray wins it 80% of the time I think. They had far superior chances and dominated the game really for 70 minutes, it was crazy to watch. But they defeated themselves because if you don't turn those opportunities into goals, it is almost inevitable to lose the game against Bayern Munich eventually. They could have had a lead of maybe 2-0 or on a lucky day 3-0. I think if they scored the first goal, Bayern Munich might have collapsed in that game.

Galatasaray surprised me all the time. What is it worth to watch their game while being live at the match? And especially when Galatasaray and their avid enemy Besiktas are confronting!
incredible sight.
Galatasaray entered the Champions League this time with a completely different approach and tactics. This is why their playing is so wonderful.

[BRINIRHA]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

Do you mean Manchester United? if he is then I agree with you. I see that Man Utd still cannot return to their current best performance. In fact, I am a little doubtful whether they will qualify from the group stage or not. But if what you mean is Man City then I still feel that Man City is a strong club that can even be a strong candidate to win the title again, whether in the EPL or UCL. Even though recently many players have suffered injuries, they can still maintain their positive trend even though it is not as good as before.

And actually for the Man Utd club, if they can return to their best performance then qualifying from the group stage will be quite easy. Bayern and MU will definitely be able to qualify if MU is in the best condition. But it's a shame that MU is currently inconsistent. There are still many things that this club needs to improve. Even their current back line is really worrying.

[X-ray]

I also think so, with performance like now, it is very difficult for Manchester United to qualify from the group stage and even if they go down to the Europa League, they won't necessarily be able to compete fiercely because the performance of the Manchester United team is in a very bad state, different from last season.

I don't have the slightest confidence that Ten Hag can boost Manchester United's performance in the UCL matches against Copenhagen and Galatasary, brands in the Premier League continue to experience defeats, and in reality it is impossible for a team to develop rapidly in a short time, especially for a team like Manchester United which has very down.

I agree with you. Even if it comes down to the UEFA Europa competition, I think a strong candidate who can compete is Sevilla. I have already mentioned that if you look at Sevilla's current performance in Group B, it is very likely that they will go down to the UEFA European League and they will be strong contenders for the title along with Liverpool. United will not provide significant resistance in the European league in the future and as you have said, it is impossible to improve the team's performance in a short time.

The management has expected to replace ten hag with a new coach. The only thing that will be really helpful for manchester united was a miracle. Manchester united will face another disaster if it will not get a miracle. Im sure united will be dropping to the europa league as it will be finished under galatasaray which will finish at the second place. Sevilla was strong in europa league but this is far tougher than people think. Do you forget to add another strong team from the group F?
There will be some clubs to join in europa league soon. Sevilla needs to put more efforts compared to the last season. Everything is still remain so difficult for sevilla as it needs to adapt with the new coach.
Manchester united will stuck in the same place till it will be out from the UCL. I think that management needs to replace him as soon as possible to at least give a chance for MU to won europa league like when it has coached by mourinho.
The special one seems to be a good candidate for united again.

[Slow death]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

I was talking about this in my recent post and I have also seen many critical articles about Manchester United, from what I see, the problem with this team starts with the club's management, which has not given much power to the coaches, because it is not normal that in 6 years they have had many coaches and the results are almost the same, the team has money but keeps spending money making meaningless signings, whenever the transfer window arrives you rarely hear any rumors saying that Manchester United is interested in signing some good striker and when people least expect it, Manchester United appears with news that they have signed a player and when we look at that player we are shocked and with the following question in our heads:

Was there no other better player for them to sign? and the answer is too obvious, they could have hired other better players. I know there are people who might argue that it's not easy being a team coach. But honestly, let's look at Manchester United's attack, who is the greatest player they have that has performed very well against many other teams? they do not have. If we look at this Manchester United squad, what is the difference with the squad from last season and 2 other seasons? there is no big difference

Now, if they have 80% more of the same squad as in previous seasons that couldn't achieve anything, how can they be expected to achieve anything this season? Whenever I see Manchester United playing I keep asking myself the same question: what does the management expect from this squad? Do you want to win the premier league with the same squad? Maybe the management is not interested in achieving anything big like the premier league and the European champions league

[ILuckyGuyI]

Manchester United are hopeless for now. It is easily seen from the way they play each one of their games. Still no progress since the day Galatasaray beat them by 3-2 away in the Champions League. I hope that we can take advantage of their situation once again to get another win in Istanbul.    This would be a very important win for us to reach last 16.

Returning to Manchester United they are still having serious issues in defense and I can't say that they very comfortable with scoring goals in general either. Even their most productive players from last season are playing poorly now. I feel like they will draw with Copenhagen and lose to Galatasaray - Bayern Munich duo again. This would be enough to send them down to the Europa League.

[rendravolt]

I believe in Real Madrid in this year's Champions League, and what they've shown so far indicates that they will go far in this competition, as they always do. They are among the top teams with a potential to win this competition this season but will still be based on their consistency in the league.

Every year Real Madrid is always one of the champion candidates and it is not surprising because they have always been consistent over the last few seasons. They always make it to at least the quarter-finals and most recently last season they were able to advance to the semifinals. The players who inherited the winning mentality from previous veterans will continue to provide resistance in fierce matches and that is why Real Madrid is still the favorite to win the title in this competition. The presence of several talented young players also helps this team mature and they can achieve this if they continue to beat other strong opponents. Can't wait to see Real Madrid can lift this trophy again after the last time it happened in 2021.

[twiki]

Manchester United are hopeless for now. It is easily seen from the way they play each one of their games. Still no progress since the day Galatasaray beat them by 3-2 away in the Champions League. I hope that we can take advantage of their situation once again to get another win in Istanbul.    This would be a very important win for us to reach last 16.

Returning to Manchester United they are still having serious issues in defense and I can't say that they very comfortable with scoring goals in general either. Even their most productive players from last season are playing poorly now. I feel like they will draw with Copenhagen and lose to Galatasaray - Bayern Munich duo again. This would be enough to send them down to the Europa League.

There is still hope for a miracle. Don't give up on Manchester United. Perhaps the team will understand that not only Hug is to blame for such a bad game, but they themselves. then everything will go a little better and I really hope that in the match with Fulham Manchester United will show that they can show a beautiful game.

[Nheer]

Hi all. Am I the only one who thinks that Manchester has become a boring and inferior club?

Another thing is how they played in the last Champions League. Either fame influences them that way, or they simply want to waste this season.
They were extremely lucky this time in the group. such poor opponents and they simply lose matches.
I'm honestly upset!

I believe you are talking about Manchester United because they are the only Manchester club that meets your description of boring and inferior. They are really boring team to watch and i put all the blame on the coach for making some certain decisions which have now become costly for them. To make some decisions you need to know what you are doing especially when he concluded that Ronaldo was his problem, I don’t see how the highest goal scorer in your team would be the problem. Ronaldo has left and is doing wel in his new team and it is now clear that Ten Hag is the problem of the team, they don’t play with any kind of rhythm. Their overall performance has been poor and I don’t even think they would make it far in the champions league or any league they are participating in they even got knocked out of the FA cup 2 days back. They need to up their game as soon as possible.