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November 09, 2023, 06:45:27 PM
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The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, bit it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Rashford didn't do it on purpose and it just happened even though it ultimately cost him and his team. Manchester United's game plan was broken because they lost one player, obviously that had changed things for the worse for them even though Manchester United had led 2-3 before Copenhagen's 2 additional goals ended Manchester United's hopes of winning.

Copenhagen was lucky to win this match against Manchester United, but they cannot yet guarantee that they will qualify for the Europa League or advance to the next round of the Champions League. They have two matches to play in the group stage, that will determine everything.

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November 09, 2023, 06:49:31 PM
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Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, but it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Manchester United have again recorded a bad outing today in this match despite all the hype that their fans created around the match making it look as if it was going to be a walkover for the club knowing how desperate they needed the winnings but then just as OLuwa BTC said, football games are unpredictable and at that, we have to accept that fact and move on even though the outcome of the match today was not what was expected.
Also for the fact that FC Copenhagen was a smaller club compared to Manchester United, it still did go well for Manchester United until they were unable to equalize the last goal before the match end making the opponent to walk away with the winning goal.

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November 09, 2023, 06:55:20 PM
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Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



I don't think any player would do such thing on purpose. However I guess the rules are saying that it is a red card anyway no matter it is intentional or not. I don't think it was a bad decision by the referee as a result. Rashford could have injured Jelert seriously there as the way he did that was really dangerous.

If Rashford stepped on Jelert's foot instead of his ankle then I guess the colour of the card would have been yellow. Rashford's morale was already not good before and now I can't imagine how he is.

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November 09, 2023, 07:00:46 PM
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Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



I don't think any player would do such thing on purpose. However I guess the rules are saying that it is a red card anyway no matter it is intentional or not. I don't think it was a bad decision by the referee as a result. Rashford could have injured Jelert seriously there as the way he did that was really dangerous.

If Rashford stepped on Jelert's foot instead of his ankle then I guess the colour of the card would have been yellow. Rashford's morale was already not good before and now I can't imagine how he is.

That's what the referee did, he sticked to the rules and I agree that this red card seems to be a hard decision, but if you change the roles of Rashford and the Copenhagen player, I am sure that every Manchester United player and fan would have said that this was a red card if the Copenhagen player hit Rashford in the same way. It wasn't his intention I believe, but what choice does the referee really have? The sanction in the form of a red card is more a warning for the future than a punishment for the moment. Keep your eyes open before you go all out and step onto the ankle joint of another player. I don't want to think about what would be if that ankle broke.

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November 09, 2023, 07:03:09 PM
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Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



The effect of the red card flashed on Marcus Rashford spoiled the game, else Manchester United should have scored four goals in that match. I was the perfect match for Manchester United to spark in form but things don't always go as planned.
That was reckless stamping on that player, but it wasn't intentional. Every game lost should be a lesson for there is no joy without pain.

Manchester United will definitely be without Marcus Rashford and I kinda love it. He has barely played a good game for Manchester United. He should go focus on scoring in the Premier League.
Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Manchester United have again recorded a bad outing today in this match despite all the hype that their fans created around the match making it look as if it was going to be a walkover for the club knowing how desperate they needed the winnings but then just as OLuwa BTC said, football games are unpredictable and at that, we have to accept that fact and move on even though the outcome of the match today was not what was expected.
Also for the fact that FC Copenhagen was a smaller club compared to Manchester United, it still did go well for Manchester United until they were unable to equalize the last goal before the match end making the opponent to walk away with the winning goal.
It would have been a nightmare night for Copenhagen if Rashford had not received a red card, but Manchester United, whose entire game order was disrupted after Rashford's red card, lost at the end of the match. Since they lost 4-3, their chances of getting out of the group have become even more difficult because they will play a difficult match like Bayern Munich. If we predict that they will lose against Bayern, the Galatasaray match will be of critical importance.

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November 09, 2023, 07:03:28 PM
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I don't think any player would do such thing on purpose. However I guess the rules are saying that it is a red card anyway no matter it is intentional or not. I don't think it was a bad decision by the referee as a result. Rashford could have injured Jelert seriously there as the way he did that was really dangerous.

If Rashford stepped on Jelert's foot instead of his ankle then I guess the colour of the card would have been yellow. Rashford's morale was already not good before and now I can't imagine how he is.
Of course, it was a decent red card for Rashford, but it has certainly damaged his image in the Champions League. Rashford is one of the players who rarely gets cards in Champions League matches, he only has 3 yellow cards in the last 5 seasons in the Champions League and this is his only red card since the 2017-2018 season.

Intentional or not, serious violations must be punished with severe penalties. But unfortunately, it has damaged Manchester United's chances in the Champions League this season. No one thought Manchester United would lose to Copenhagen, but it became a reality after they only played with 10 players.

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November 09, 2023, 07:08:34 PM
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  • Bayern Munich
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Bayern, Inter Milan, Manchester City, Real Madrid all look to belong in the group of first qualifiers as they are regular names, Leipzig did well to not disappoint from their group and Real Soceidad too. Manchester United will have a hard time qualifying from their group to join Bayern, Arsenal look sure to qualify, Difficult to choose between Lens and PSV, the team to join them. Napoli are very unconvincing to join Real Madrid, they may not qualify even tough they have seven points already. Atletico Madrid have to qualify, they are playing very good football at the moment and need to qualify to add more entertainment to the competition. In Group F, It is still difficult to predict which team between Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle will qualify. Barcelona also need to join up for more entertainment.

Didnt expect that Real Sociedad would pass the group so easily. They destroyed everyone in their group. Bayern Munich,Man City and Leipzig easily passed their groups that werent that hard at all. Group F anything can happen until the very end. I think we wont know anything in this group until last round.

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Congratulations to Copenhagen, they could make it to the Europa League, they deserve it.
Rashford didn't do it on purpose and it just happened even though it ultimately cost him and his team. Manchester United's game plan was broken because they lost one player, obviously that had changed things for the worse for them even though Manchester United had led 2-3 before Copenhagen's 2 additional goals ended Manchester United's hopes of winning.

Copenhagen was lucky to win this match against Manchester United, but they cannot yet guarantee that they will qualify for the Europa League or advance to the next round of the Champions League. They have two matches to play in the group stage, that will determine everything.

Really the final result between Man Utd vs Copenhagen was beyond of my expectations, I didn't expect that in Group A, Man Utd is currently in the bottom position, Man Utd has so far received 3 defeats and 1 win, there is little hope that Man Utd can qualify from the qualifying rounds.

That's right, because a red card hit Rashford, Man Utd's playing pattern was messed up,  Copenhagen even scored 2 goals in the first half, from what I saw there were a lot of fans who were disappointed with the results that Man Utd got, shouting to replace Ten Hag too the louder it sounds from fans.




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November 09, 2023, 07:27:31 PM
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In this match, it can be seen that AC Milan's mentality is quite good, since before the match the AC Milan team was required to win the match in order to have a chance of qualifying from the group and even though they were 1 goal behind at the start of the first half, the AC Milan players were able to respond quickly with equalized and tried to dominate the game so they managed to turn things around to 2-1 for AC Milan's victory.
With this result, AC Milan's chances of qualifying from the group phase are wide open.
The mentality of the AC Milan players looks much better than that of the PSG players and they have a good defense even though the PSG players played quite openly and dominated the match. PSG had quite difficulty penetrating AC Milan's defense because they played a defensive style and it was proven how AC Milan's defense blocked every attack made by PSG. Final finishing may be a big problem for PSG because they are not able to finish every opportunity that exists.

In the other group F match, Dortmund managed to beat Newcastle with a score of 2-0, which means that the possibility of Dortmund being able to qualify for the round of 16 is very wide open, now Dortmund is at the top of the group F standings with 7 points, PSG 6 points, AC MIlan 5 points and Newcastle 4 points, this is really a pretty fierce group, up to now these four teams still have a chance to advance to the round of 16.
Group F will have much tighter competition to qualify for the next round because after the fourth match the difference in points between the three teams is very close. Dortmund leads the standings with seven points, PSG is second with six points and AC Milan managed to collect five points after beating PSG. The results of the match in the fourth match provide an opportunity for AC Milan to qualify for the next round, but it depends on how they face the remaining matches in the future.

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November 09, 2023, 07:36:34 PM
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Didnt expect that Real Sociedad would pass the group so easily. They destroyed everyone in their group. Bayern Munich,Man City and Leipzig easily passed their groups that werent that hard at all. Group F anything can happen until the very end. I think we wont know anything in this group until last round.
Barcelona and Porto are also almost certain of progressing to the next round, so we won't ignore them. Arsenal, who leads group B, has also been very convincing to qualify by collecting 9 points from 4 matches. Bapi may be right that the teams in groups E, F and H can still change considering that the points between these teams do not have a big difference. They still have a chance to qualify even though the favorites can be determined, but everything can change and is never the same as we think.

Bayern Munich, Manchester City, Sociedad, Leipzig, Real Madrid, Inter, Napoli and Arsenal seem safe to qualify for the round of 16. They can rotate players in the next match even though none of them need to underestimate their opponents in the remaining two matches. I'm happy that Real Madrid did very well even though they had difficulties in the first two games.

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November 09, 2023, 07:49:42 PM
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ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.
That red card for Marcus Rashford was well deserved, even though he doesn't seem to feel any accountability. Despite being down to 10 men, Manchester United should still be dominating against Copenhagen in this game. But, we have witnessed their defeat. However, patience is running out, and the series of bad luck continues. Fans can't accept a perpetual downfall of Manchester United. This team needs a football manager who can read the game properly, not a coach who doesn't know the right player to substitute.

Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.



I would say that playing a match with one less player can affect the progress of the match, but Manchester were leading by two goals before the red card to Rashford (very questionable red card) but in my opinion Ten Haag should have set up the defensive phase better and try to contain Copenhagen. They were very lucky but honor to them who managed to win this match, now despite the defeat to Manchester United it's not over and they can still get through to play against Galatasaray next 29/11 and then they have to fight with all their might against Bayern Munich in the last match. difficult but not impossible and he can still do it

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I would say that playing a match with one less player can affect the progress of the match, but Manchester were leading by two goals before the red card to Rashford (very questionable red card) but in my opinion Ten Haag should have set up the defensive phase better and try to contain Copenhagen.
Ten Hag did not have the chance to, he probably expected that his players would have been able to hold up and secure the advantage they had since the halftime in the game was very close, but they could not and within a few minutes lost the advantage. Coming into the second half on level score in a must win game meant that Manchester United will not be able to defend but will need to try to win the game, so no defense, but more attack. Manchester United were able to score, to get the lead again but did not defend it well and still lost the game. Manchester United have serious defensive and Midfield problems, until the coach can fix that the team will not do well.

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That's a shame for a team like Manchester United to lose a game against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Copenhagen is not a strong team and they don't have any hope for this tournament but Manchester United had a poor performance in this game which is enough for any team to use the chance and win the game. In fact, Manchester United was a top team in this tournament and now they are losing games against weak teams.

Manchester United are no longer the same team they were even a year or two ago. Out of their 17 games Manchester United have lost 9, the percentage of defeats is already over 50 and it seems that this is the worst result for 50 years, so the defeat against Copenhagen was statistically expected. 
Before the game with Manchester, Copenhagen won 4 out of 5 games and they played well, yes without Rashford's suspension the victory probably would not have happened, but they could probably draw.

Given that Bayern Munich are already in the playoffs, now 3 teams will play on equal terms to get out of the group. While Galatasaray have the best chances, they need to draw with Manchester United and beat Copenhagen and then Mauro Icardi's team will definitely get out of the group. Manchester need to win the remaining 2 games and then they will have a chance to get out of the group.

Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.

I'm not a Manchester United fan, but I too think Copenhagen look at least better, and they proved that yesterday. It's already worth recognising that Manchester United are hardly capable of playing in the Champions League. After their defeat I even doubt they even have a chance to qualify for the Europa League, they are playing very badly. That they will concede in the last minutes I understood yesterday when the score was still in MU's favour. They are not able to keep the score down and control the game lately

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November 09, 2023, 09:26:43 PM
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Losing the game against Copenhagen was not good at all but still, Copenhagen was lucky in this game because the mistake of the referee in this game had a huge effect on the game.
Manchester United scored two goals and the game was 2-0, while people were thinking Manchester United was going to win this match, Marcus Rashford got a red card and it was a mistake by the referee because I think he didn't do that on purpose.

It's obviously not an act that was committed on purpose but the referee did watch a review on the VAR to be sure before he made his decision so obviously it was a red card offense regardless of the intention maybe because it was on the ankle which could lead to an injury.

Manchester united were really unlucky yesterday as the card had a great impact on the morales of the players even tho they tried to cover up for the gap, they still didn't defend the two goals they had earlier on enough to win the game, everyone has expected Manchester united was going to have a hitch free win because it was a team considered weaker than Manchester united but sadly the reverse happened.


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November 09, 2023, 09:29:17 PM
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I would say that playing a match with one less player can affect the progress of the match, but Manchester were leading by two goals before the red card to Rashford (very questionable red card) but in my opinion Ten Haag should have set up the defensive phase better and try to contain Copenhagen.
Ten Hag did not have the chance to, he probably expected that his players would have been able to hold up and secure the advantage they had since the halftime in the game was very close, but they could not and within a few minutes lost the advantage. Coming into the second half on level score in a must win game meant that Manchester United will not be able to defend but will need to try to win the game, so no defense, but more attack. Manchester United were able to score, to get the lead again but did not defend it well and still lost the game. Manchester United have serious defensive and Midfield problems, until the coach can fix that the team will not do well.

Honestly speaking I think that Ten Haag's management so far is quite disappointing, Copenhagen - Manchester United has been conditioned by very questionable refereeing choices but it cannot be an alibi, at 2-0 and with ten men you have to defend compulsorily instead he first continued with the same starting position and after they conceded the equalizer and regained the advantage they tried to defend, but an entire or almost entire match with 10 players is an enormous waste of energy for the players and in the end they had to let go. The company is still wasting time keeping Ten Haag in my opinion they should start looking for a replacement

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I'm not a Manchester United fan, but I too think Copenhagen look at least better, and they proved that yesterday. It's already worth recognising that Manchester United are hardly capable of playing in the Champions League. After their defeat I even doubt they even have a chance to qualify for the Europa League, they are playing very badly. That they will concede in the last minutes I understood yesterday when the score was still in MU's favour. They are not able to keep the score down and control the game lately

I think it's very difficult to control the pressure when you only have 10 players on the pitch. Manchester United have not been good in defense this season and they have paid dearly for that. Ten Hag and the whole team are responsible for the bad result even when they had a big chance to secure the match with a win.

I don't care what will happen to Manchester United in the next two matches because I don't think they are worthy of competing higher in the Champions League this season. Even if Manchester United qualify for the round of 16 by any means, they will only fail there without having much chance of qualifying for the quarter-finals. Everything is uncertain, they have a chance even though currently the chance is very low.

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November 09, 2023, 09:43:57 PM
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I'm not a Manchester United fan, but I too think Copenhagen look at least better, and they proved that yesterday. It's already worth recognising that Manchester United are hardly capable of playing in the Champions League.
Is true but they both have mystery about home advantages because if you check there last meeting before yesterday match, Manchester United was playing from home and was able to win  them and Copenhagen came back yesterday also playing from home and win Manchester United.

So it seems there possibilities of wining each other is determined by who will be playing from home, but however there overall performance Copenhagen is more better than Manchester United.

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This is quite thrilling. Playing with only 10 players will certainly have a real impact. And I'm quite pessimistic if Man United can win. But so far, it turns out they are really trying hard, plus Ten Hag's tactics are working quite well. It would not be surprising if it turned out that Man United could actually add another goal at such a difficult time. However, it turns out that the struggle is not over yet because Copenhagen has just added another goal, so now they are still tied at 3-3. This is still a prediction and it is not certain who will win.
Yep. Playing with 10 players only was very difficult situation for Man United. Before the red card, Copenhagen couldn't score a single goal, meanwhile Man United could score 2 goals quickly. Sadly, after Rashford got a red card, Copenhagen could score 4 goals. The red card was a night mare for Man United. It determined the lose of Man United at that time. Ten Hag also can't apply a proper tactic to defense their leading 2 goals. So, Man United missed the chance to win against Copenhagen.


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November 09, 2023, 09:57:43 PM
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I think it's very difficult to control the pressure when you only have 10 players on the pitch. Manchester United have not been good in defense this season and they have paid dearly for that. Ten Hag and the whole team are responsible for the bad result even when they had a big chance to secure the match with a win.

I don't care what will happen to Manchester United in the next two matches because I don't think they are worthy of competing higher in the Champions League this season. Even if Manchester United qualify for the round of 16 by any means, they will only fail there without having much chance of qualifying for the quarter-finals. Everything is uncertain, they have a chance even though currently the chance is very low.
In that match, Manchester united wasted a better opportunity to win because their weak point was none other than being unable to balance their strengths when playing with 10 players. With results that fans didn't want, of course there was a lot of harsh criticism that fans leveled at Erik Ten Hag. Apart from that, Manchester United is at the bottom of the standing and they only have a chance in the next 2 match if they are really able to maximize it well.

I also agree with you that Manchester United is not strong enough to be able to compete with other teams if they qualify for the round of 16. The quality of their game was very bad, if you look at the matches they played in the group phase.
Of course they played without having any target they wanted. The next two match will be quite tough for them, especially against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich.

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I don't care what will happen to Manchester United in the next two matches because I don't think they are worthy of competing higher in the Champions League this season. Even if Manchester United qualify for the round of 16 by any means, they will only fail there without having much chance of qualifying for the quarter-finals. Everything is uncertain, they have a chance even though currently the chance is very low.

I agree with your opinion. I don't think Manchester United is a big team anymore, even though they spent a lot of money in the past transfer seasons, but look, they constantly lose to small teams in the arenas. They don't deserve to keep moving forward.
Galatasaray and Copenhagen together have 4 points, while Manchester United only has 3 points. At this time, the possibility of Manchester United not being able to pass the group stage exists because they will be away at Galatasaray Stadium and meet Bayern in the final game. The game against Galatasaray will significantly determine their chances of progressing. Only victory will help them open the door to continue. Facing the mighty Bayern this season, what are their chances of winning?

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